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Old 11-22-2009, 04:18 PM   #101
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Chiefs win!!!!!!!! WOOOOOOOOOOHOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!
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Old 11-22-2009, 04:19 PM   #102
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It was a dumb play, if Coughlin had any faith in Tynes they run the ball up the middle there, it doesn't matter if Jerry Rice is on the field.

Oh I hear ya 100%. I'm just saying, that pass in general reminds me of what Plax was able to do and what they don't have anymore.
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Old 11-22-2009, 04:21 PM   #103
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PI on the Browns in the endzone on the hail mary.

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Old 11-22-2009, 04:21 PM   #104
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And Stafford just got CRUSHED on the same play.
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Old 11-22-2009, 04:21 PM   #105
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Browns gets PI in the endzone with no time left, Stafford gets hurt though so Culpepper is in.
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Old 11-22-2009, 04:22 PM   #106
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It's somewhat hard to grasp right now. Chiefs are actually a good team all of a sudden. They're 3-2 in their last 5 games after a 0-4 start. They are also undefeated (2-0) when Larry Johnson isn't on the roster.
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Old 11-22-2009, 04:22 PM   #107
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They have to run the ball since Culpepper is cold, right?
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Old 11-22-2009, 04:22 PM   #108
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Big comedy in Detroit right now. Stafford held the ball FOREVER on the hail mary play, and then he got hurt. Interference on the Browns and now Culpepper's gotta come in and try to win it from the 1 yard line with no time on the clock.
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Old 11-22-2009, 04:23 PM   #109
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Cleveland takes timeout, so Stafford can come back in. LOL
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Old 11-22-2009, 04:23 PM   #110
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Stafford comes back in and gets the TD
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Old 11-22-2009, 04:23 PM   #111
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Stupid timeout by the Browns allows Stafford to come back and throw the winning TD.
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Old 11-22-2009, 04:23 PM   #112
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Some heads need to roll on the Steelers' special teams. I think they cut Arnold Harrison last week, but they have now given up 4 TD returns in the past 5 games and, obviously, they both played a big role in the losses the past two weeks.
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Old 11-22-2009, 04:23 PM   #113
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And Stafford throws the TD and races to the bench clutching his shoulder.
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Old 11-22-2009, 04:24 PM   #114
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Wow, Matt Stafford.

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Old 11-22-2009, 04:24 PM   #115
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And that's the game. Fuck Colts/Pats. Game of the year FTW!
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Old 11-22-2009, 04:24 PM   #116
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The Browns just keep finding new ways to lose. Congrats to Detroit on their 2nd win in as many years.
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Old 11-22-2009, 04:25 PM   #117
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I am cracking up here over the whole Cleveland-Detroit ending. Best game ever.
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Old 11-22-2009, 04:26 PM   #118
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I don't get the end of the Browns game. Did the Browns take a timeout? If so, why would you let Detroit regroup when they had to run a bad QB fresh off the bench?
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Old 11-22-2009, 04:26 PM   #119
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It's somewhat hard to grasp right now. Chiefs are actually a good team all of a sudden. They're 3-2 in their last 5 games after a 0-4 start. They are also undefeated (2-0) when Larry Johnson isn't on the roster.

They looked very physical on both lines. I think Cassell is a below average starting quarterback -- he made some terrible throws today and, even on a few of them that connected, he was late delivering or was so far off that it messed up the receivers' momentum. Kind of tough on the Chiefs -- they have so much invested in him, between his contract and what they traded to get him, but they will have a high pick in a QB heavy draft next year.
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Old 11-22-2009, 04:26 PM   #120
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great win by the lions!!!
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Old 11-22-2009, 04:27 PM   #121
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I don't get the end of the Browns game. Did the Browns take a timeout? If so, why would you let Detroit regroup when they had to run a bad QB fresh off the bench?

They did, yes. Because they're Cleveland, that's why. Did you see my recap of the end of the first half, where Cleveland ran a fake FG on 4th and 9 with 13 seconds left, converted it, and ran the FG unit back out again to kick the FG on the next play?
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Old 11-22-2009, 04:28 PM   #122
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fuck maroney...another fucking fumble
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Old 11-22-2009, 04:32 PM   #123
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i'm done with fucking maroney.

his goalline fumble last week ended up costing against the colts and now this?

fuck him...street his ass
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Old 11-22-2009, 04:32 PM   #124
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They looked very physical on both lines. I think Cassell is a below average starting quarterback -- he made some terrible throws today and, even on a few of them that connected, he was late delivering or was so far off that it messed up the receivers' momentum. Kind of tough on the Chiefs -- they have so much invested in him, between his contract and what they traded to get him, but they will have a high pick in a QB heavy draft next year.

When you have one of the worst offensive lines in the NFL and none of the receiving corp that you're throwing to was on the opening day roster (Long, Pope, Wade, and Chambers were all signed during the season), it's not surprising that they have a lack of chemistry at times and he's often running for his life. Cassel has been very good given the circumstances. His arm won the game today.

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Old 11-22-2009, 04:33 PM   #125
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I swear Mangini might be the worst coach since the second coming of Art Shell.

How on Earth did he ever even see some success with the Jets?
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Old 11-22-2009, 04:34 PM   #126
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They did, yes. Because they're Cleveland, that's why. Did you see my recap of the end of the first half, where Cleveland ran a fake FG on 4th and 9 with 13 seconds left, converted it, and ran the FG unit back out again to kick the FG on the next play?
I saw that too. I was just confused because the announcers kept saying the Lions were given an injury timeout when they had none. I have to say that calling that timeout was one of the dumber coaching decisions I've seen all year.
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Old 11-22-2009, 04:36 PM   #127
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Oh Sanchez that was awful.
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Old 11-22-2009, 04:38 PM   #128
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I have to say that calling that timeout was one of the dumber coaching decisions I've seen all year.


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Old 11-22-2009, 04:40 PM   #129
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Anyone else watching the Niner game think they got completely jobbed on that late challenge? It seemed that the spot was clearly almost 2 yards in front of where it should have been, and the Niners lose the challenge and their last timeout.

You still gotta stop them from running out the clock, but that was a HUGE change in the complexion of the last drive.
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Old 11-22-2009, 04:43 PM   #130
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His arm won the game today.

I can't see how you could say that. The Chiefs had three big plays that won the game for them: the KO return for a TD, the INT and return that lead to a FG, and Chris Chambers making a great run after the catch (aided by several missed/whiffed tackles by the Steelers). The KO return got them 7. The return prevented a sure-thing FG/possible TD by the Steelers and got them a FG, which was a 6-10 point swing. And Chambers YAC got them the game winning FG.

Lorenzo Charles, Aaron Studebaker, and Chris Chambers (who should have had another TD, but instead had to make a fantastic play to "only" got a ~40 yard reception on a horribly underthrown ball by Cassell) all had a much bigger impact on winning that game.
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Old 11-22-2009, 04:50 PM   #131
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I can't see how you could say that. The Chiefs had three big plays that won the game for them: the KO return for a TD, the INT and return that lead to a FG, and Chris Chambers making a great run after the catch (aided by several missed/whiffed tackles by the Steelers). The KO return got them 7. The return prevented a sure-thing FG/possible TD by the Steelers and got them a FG, which was a 6-10 point swing. And Chambers YAC got them the game winning FG.

Lorenzo Charles, Aaron Studebaker, and Chris Chambers (who should have had another TD, but instead had to make a fantastic play to "only" got a ~40 yard reception on a horribly underthrown ball by Cassell) all had a much bigger impact on winning that game.

You obviously haven't watched the Chiefs to know what's going on. Cassel has rarely been the source of criticism by the staff. He's throwing the ball where he is supposed to, but when you have players who join the team mid-season, the timing by the WR is often off. People who blame the QB obviously haven't watched much of KC this season. The staff has repeatedly stated that Cassel isn't the reason that the timing is off.

FYI......Jamal Charles and Matt Cassel.
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Old 11-22-2009, 05:19 PM   #132
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Old 11-22-2009, 05:20 PM   #133
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Was I the only one to want to yell BOOM HEADSHOT when Vollmer got that Jets player?
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Old 11-22-2009, 05:24 PM   #134
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Was I the only one to want to yell BOOM HEADSHOT when Vollmer got that Jets player?

it was mark levoir. vollmer is out with a concussion.
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Old 11-22-2009, 05:24 PM   #135
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it was mark levoir. vollmer is out with a concussion.


ah woops.. some reason thought it was Vollmer. But it's good to see the Pats offense back to running at full speed.
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Old 11-22-2009, 05:31 PM   #136
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Old 11-22-2009, 05:39 PM   #137
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You obviously haven't watched the Chiefs to know what's going on. Cassel has rarely been the source of criticism by the staff. He's throwing the ball where he is supposed to, but when you have players who join the team mid-season, the timing by the WR is often off. People who blame the QB obviously haven't watched much of KC this season. The staff has repeatedly stated that Cassel isn't the reason that the timing is off.

FYI......Jamal Charles and Matt Cassel.

I have not watched KC all season -- you are right.
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Old 11-22-2009, 05:40 PM   #138
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Couple of brilliant plays there by the Pats.
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Old 11-22-2009, 05:41 PM   #139
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I have not watched KC all season -- you are right.

Why would anyone watch them? They're a terrible team with no stars on either side of the ball.
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Old 11-22-2009, 05:47 PM   #141
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Old 11-22-2009, 07:13 PM   #142
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The Bengals may have just ruined a lot of people's suicide picks.
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Old 11-22-2009, 07:14 PM   #143
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Old 11-22-2009, 07:15 PM   #144
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Old 11-22-2009, 07:19 PM   #145
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The Bengals may have just ruined a lot of people's suicide picks.

I would imagine the Steelers did that earlier as well
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Old 11-22-2009, 07:25 PM   #146
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Someone just teleported me back to any year not 2005 in the last 20 while rooting for the fucking Bengals.
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Old 11-22-2009, 07:30 PM   #147
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The amusing nature of the Steelers/Bengals thread on the board this week just before they both lost to the two weakest teams in the AFC West is not lost on me.
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Old 11-22-2009, 07:45 PM   #148
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I am so thoroughly annoyed by the Bengals. They played with no energy and no life the entire second half.
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Old 11-22-2009, 07:58 PM   #149
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So anyone have any news on Warner's injury yet? I'm guessing concussion since they say its a head injury, but I still haven't seen the play he got hurt on. Leinart did OK in his first substantial playing time since 2007. Thankfully the Cards already had a big lead on the Rams or it could have been a third shocker like Cincy and Pitt losing.

Oh and speaking of Pitt, I have Warner on one of my fantasy teams, his backup? Yep Big Ben. Just great.
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Old 11-22-2009, 08:01 PM   #150
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THe Bengals may have lost a game, but at least they're still fairly healthy....
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