Wildcard Weekend.... - Page 3

Dutch · 01-08-2005, 08:03 PM

Do whatever is best for the team. There is nothing saying Rivers can't sit on the bench again next year.

cthomer5000 · 01-08-2005, 08:05 PM

Clarification on Philip Rivers...

The Chargers gave him a 14.25 million dollar bonus on a 6 year deal. That leaves 11.875 million of cap charge hanging out there.

If they traded him before June 1st, they would take a 11.875 million cap hit in 2005.
If they traded him after June 1st, they would take a 5.9375 million cap hit in 2005, and a 5.9375 cap hit in 2006.

In summary, no way they trade him.

Now the question is, what to do with Brees?

The options as I see it:

Let him walk. Public Relations disaster as well as leaving you without an unproven QB (unless we're talking about Doug Flutie)
Franchise him and trade him. You get something for him, but you again leave yourself without an unproven QB and still might piss off the fans.
Franchise him and sign him to a long-term deal. The major drawback is clogging up a ton of money at the QB position between Brees and Rivers. This would probably become unmanageble in 2-3 years. Definitely an option though.
Franchise him, let him try to duplicate his success, then make your decision in 2006. Probably the safest from the team perspective, but he costs you 9 million against the 2005 cap and you have a problem if he holds out.

cthomer5000 · 01-08-2005, 08:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Dutch

Now that is the way Instant Replay is supposed to work.

I thought so too. Didn't they techinically overrule a judgement call?

edit: I thought you said 'not the way instant replay is supposed to work.'

cthomer5000 · 01-08-2005, 08:22 PM

Yay. 7-7.

Becht: nice work, but you still suck.

temley06 · 01-08-2005, 08:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cthomer5000

Clarification on Philip Rivers...

The Chargers gave him a 14.25 million dollar bonus on a 6 year deal. That leaves 11.875 million of cap charge hanging out there.

If they traded him before June 1st, they would take a 11.875 million cap hit in 2005.
If they traded him after June 1st, they would take a 5.9375 million cap hit in 2005, and a 5.9375 cap hit in 2006.

In summary, no way they trade him.

Now the question is, what to do with Brees?

The options as I see it:

Let him walk. Public Relations disaster as well as leaving you without an unproven QB (unless we're talking about Doug Flutie)
Franchise him and trade him. You get something for him, but you again leave yourself without an unproven QB and still might piss off the fans.
Franchise him and sign him to a long-term deal. The major drawback is clogging up a ton of money at the QB position between Brees and Rivers. This would probably become unmanageble in 2-3 years. Definitely an option though.
Franchise him, let him try to duplicate his success, then make your decision in 2006. Probably the safest from the team perspective, but he costs you 9 million against the 2005 cap and you have a problem if he holds out.

Since when has SD been averse to a little public relations disaster?

Dutch · 01-08-2005, 08:37 PM

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Originally Posted by cthomer5000

I thought so too. Didn't they techinically overrule a judgement call?

edit: I thought you said 'not the way instant replay is supposed to work.'

I'm pretty sure that possession is reviewable regardless of whether or not the ref said it was bobbled.

cthomer5000 · 01-08-2005, 08:39 PM

Oooh, Oooh.... I'm dreaming of a free kick here.

Stuff them and use those time outs, Jets!!!!

temley06 · 01-08-2005, 08:45 PM

Dick Curl, classic name

cthomer5000 · 01-08-2005, 08:47 PM

fucking Jets.

SackAttack · 01-08-2005, 08:53 PM

Can somebody explain this "free kick" thing to me? Madden and Michaels didn't do a very good job, and I'm confused.

cthomer5000 · 01-08-2005, 08:55 PM

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Originally Posted by SackAttack

Can somebody explain this "free kick" thing to me? Madden and Michaels didn't do a very good job, and I'm confused.

Any time a fair catch is called, the team recieving the ball has the option of a 'free kick.'

A free kick is the holder, the kicker, and no one else on the field. Other than that it is a regular field goal attempt.

The one super-cool wrinkle is that even if a team fair catches the ball with no time remaining, they are still entitled to a free kick.

Easily my favorite of the obscure rules, and the Jets butchering the clock and not playing defense on 3rd down just cost them a free shot at 3 points.

temley06 · 01-08-2005, 08:56 PM

I'm not sure I have ever seen it in an NFL game. Has anyone?

SackAttack · 01-08-2005, 08:57 PM

So the reason we don't see that rule pop up very often is because you don't see a lot of fair catches called in field goal territory?

cthomer5000 · 01-08-2005, 08:58 PM

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Originally Posted by temley06

I'm not sure I have ever seen it in an NFL game. Has anyone?

I saw it in one game involving Seattle over 10 years ago.

temley06 · 01-08-2005, 08:58 PM

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Originally Posted by cthomer5000

I saw it in one game involving Seattle over 10 years ago.

Did they hit it?

cthomer5000 · 01-08-2005, 08:59 PM

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Originally Posted by SackAttack

So the reason we don't see that rule pop up very often is because you don't see a lot of fair catches called in field goal territory?

Exactly. It has to be the combination of getting the ball in decent position and there being no time or almost no time on the clock (no reason to kick otherwise).

temley06 · 01-08-2005, 09:00 PM

Free kicks ought to be added to the wishlist for FOF6.

cthomer5000 · 01-08-2005, 09:00 PM

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Originally Posted by temley06

Did they hit it?

No.

Dutch · 01-08-2005, 09:08 PM

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Originally Posted by temley06

Did they hit it?

I'd hit it.

Dutch · 01-08-2005, 09:09 PM

Dola: Sorry, I thought this was the Anna Kornokova thread...

Dutch · 01-08-2005, 09:11 PM

Nice concentration by Santana Moss!

temley06 · 01-08-2005, 09:12 PM

Nice play, better fake.

temley06 · 01-08-2005, 09:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Dutch

Dola: Sorry, I thought this was the Anna Kornokova thread...

LOL

cthomer5000 · 01-08-2005, 09:16 PM

death to Martyball!!!!

temley06 · 01-08-2005, 09:18 PM

Damnit, Jets blew that one.

cthomer5000 · 01-08-2005, 09:27 PM

Oh baby. Let's go Jets! If they can get in the endzone here....

cthomer5000 · 01-08-2005, 09:30 PM

wow. THey just showed Herman Edwards having to be restrained, apparently going after the running backs coach.

cthomer5000 · 01-08-2005, 09:31 PM

Doug Brien, you're going to give me a heart attack.

temley06 · 01-08-2005, 09:33 PM

It is nice to see McCareins get involved. I thought he would have a much better year than he did.

Ragone · 01-08-2005, 09:34 PM

Good old martyball..

cthomer5000 · 01-08-2005, 09:35 PM

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Originally Posted by temley06

It is nice to see McCareins get involved. I thought he would have a much better year than he did.

Well, the Jets receivers as a whole were kind of MIA this year. Also, I think McCareins had the general 'first year on a new team' effect going for him. Almost every single receiver disappoints in his first year with his team. Year after year.

temley06 · 01-08-2005, 09:40 PM

San Diego is looking like the '99 Colts, worst to first, break through year by the QB and then tank a home playoff game.

Suicane75 · 01-08-2005, 09:41 PM

I wish I wish I had bet this damn game.

cthomer5000 · 01-08-2005, 09:45 PM

bwahahaha! the Jets only had 10 guys on defense the last two plays.

how did the Chargers not take advantage of that?

Suicane75 · 01-08-2005, 09:58 PM

Did anyone see that chick in the stands with the white sweater? I mean gawd damn.

temley06 · 01-08-2005, 09:59 PM

Wow, what a boneheaded mistake.

temley06 · 01-08-2005, 10:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Suicane75

Did anyone see that chick in the stands with the white sweater? I mean gawd damn.

I wish it was still raining.

TLK · 01-08-2005, 10:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Suicane75

Did anyone see that chick in the stands with the white sweater? I mean gawd damn.

noticed that also

temley06 · 01-08-2005, 10:02 PM

What are you doing Herm? Punt the damn thing and let your D win it.

cthomer5000 · 01-08-2005, 10:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Suicane75

Did anyone see that chick in the stands with the white sweater? I mean gawd damn.

The Jets have to punt here... so I expect a pooch punt if they stay in field goal formation. Just way too risky. They only need to think back to last week for an example of how a long field goal attempt can screw you in a close game.

Suicane75 · 01-08-2005, 10:05 PM

Well, no matter what its gonna be 2 tight games today, couldnt ask for more.

cthomer5000 · 01-08-2005, 10:09 PM

Didn't the refs miss an illegal touching call when Brees drilled his own lineman in the head?

cthomer5000 · 01-08-2005, 10:12 PM

I think the Jets are finished if this goes to overtime.

temley06 · 01-08-2005, 10:13 PM

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Originally Posted by cthomer5000

I think the Jets are finished if this goes to overtime.

Yeah, I would say ol' mo' is squarely on the SD side right now.

Suicane75 · 01-08-2005, 10:13 PM

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Originally Posted by cthomer5000

I think the Jets are finished if this goes to overtime.

I would agree.

Suicane75 · 01-08-2005, 10:14 PM

Whoa, i missed that fight on the sidelines, who and why was Herm fighting with?

cthomer5000 · 01-08-2005, 10:16 PM

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Originally Posted by cthomer5000

Didn't the refs miss an illegal touching call when Brees drilled his own lineman in the head?

answering myself. yes they did.

The o-lineman was an ineligble receiver. SHould have been a 5 yard penalty.

Suicane75 · 01-08-2005, 10:17 PM

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Originally Posted by cthomer5000

answering myself. yes they did.

The o-lineman was an ineligble receiver. SHould have been a 5 yard penalty.

Sorry didn't see the play. Turbulence is on TNT ya know.

Easy Mac · 01-08-2005, 10:19 PM

FLAG... WHAT!!!

Suicane75 · 01-08-2005, 10:19 PM

Jets are gonna.......

01-08-2005, 10:05 PM	#141
Suicane75 Coordinator Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: NJ	Well, no matter what its gonna be 2 tight games today, couldnt ask for more. Last edited by Suicane75 : 01-08-2005 at 10:12 PM.

01-08-2005, 08:03 PM	#101
Dutch "Dutch" Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Tampa, FL	Do whatever is best for the team. There is nothing saying Rivers can't sit on the bench again next year.

01-08-2005, 08:45 PM	#108
temley06 H.S. Freshman Team Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Indianapolis	Dick Curl, classic name

01-08-2005, 08:53 PM	#110
SackAttack Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Green Bay, WI	Can somebody explain this "free kick" thing to me? Madden and Michaels didn't do a very good job, and I'm confused.

01-08-2005, 08:56 PM	#112
temley06 H.S. Freshman Team Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Indianapolis	I'm not sure I have ever seen it in an NFL game. Has anyone?

01-08-2005, 08:57 PM	#113
SackAttack Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Green Bay, WI	So the reason we don't see that rule pop up very often is because you don't see a lot of fair catches called in field goal territory?

01-08-2005, 09:00 PM	#117
temley06 H.S. Freshman Team Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Indianapolis	Free kicks ought to be added to the wishlist for FOF6.

01-08-2005, 09:09 PM	#120
Dutch "Dutch" Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Tampa, FL	Dola: Sorry, I thought this was the Anna Kornokova thread...

01-08-2005, 09:11 PM	#121
Dutch "Dutch" Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Tampa, FL	Nice concentration by Santana Moss!

01-08-2005, 09:12 PM	#122
temley06 H.S. Freshman Team Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Indianapolis	Nice play, better fake.

01-08-2005, 09:18 PM	#125
temley06 H.S. Freshman Team Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Indianapolis	Damnit, Jets blew that one.

01-08-2005, 09:33 PM	#129
temley06 H.S. Freshman Team Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Indianapolis	It is nice to see McCareins get involved. I thought he would have a much better year than he did.

01-08-2005, 09:34 PM	#130
Ragone Pro Rookie Join Date: May 2002 Location: Kansas City, Mo	Good old martyball..

01-08-2005, 09:40 PM	#132
temley06 H.S. Freshman Team Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Indianapolis	San Diego is looking like the '99 Colts, worst to first, break through year by the QB and then tank a home playoff game.

01-08-2005, 09:41 PM	#133
Suicane75 Coordinator Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: NJ	I wish I wish I had bet this damn game.

01-08-2005, 09:58 PM	#135
Suicane75 Coordinator Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: NJ	Did anyone see that chick in the stands with the white sweater? I mean gawd damn.

01-08-2005, 09:59 PM	#136
temley06 H.S. Freshman Team Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Indianapolis	Wow, what a boneheaded mistake.

01-08-2005, 10:02 PM	#139
temley06 H.S. Freshman Team Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Indianapolis	What are you doing Herm? Punt the damn thing and let your D win it.

01-08-2005, 10:14 PM	#146
Suicane75 Coordinator Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: NJ	Whoa, i missed that fight on the sidelines, who and why was Herm fighting with?

01-08-2005, 10:19 PM	#149
Easy Mac Registered User Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Here	FLAG... WHAT!!!

01-08-2005, 10:19 PM	#150
Suicane75 Coordinator Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: NJ	Jets are gonna.......

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