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12-02-2015, 12:11 PM | #102 |
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I'm just glad the Red Sox have an increased chance of being relevant next year. I didn't feel the same way when their big off-season prize was a overweight third baseman who hit 16 home runs the year before.
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12-02-2015, 12:27 PM | #103 | |
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The Barry Zito deal definitely crippled the Giants and kept them from doing anything noteworthy. |
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12-02-2015, 12:27 PM | #104 | |
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Pitchers seem to get a hurt a little more often and after watching Wainwright, Carpenter and Garcia all battle injuries after signing for big money - I'd be a little squeamish to pay an over-30 pitcher $200 mil. |
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12-02-2015, 03:38 PM | #105 | |
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Not a good sign for the Royals. Would love to see him back, but may not happen.
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12-02-2015, 05:27 PM | #106 | |
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Well, over multiple seasons and multiple teams in the playoffs, he's let in nearly double the runs that he lets in during the regular season. I think it does mean something. You pay someone 30 million a year to win in the playoffs, not just the regular season. At some point, it was probably just a statistical anomaly. Unfortunately with all the media pressure, I believe that it's a monkey on his back that is probably actually affecting his performance. |
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12-02-2015, 05:32 PM | #107 | |
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http://www.fangraphs.com/statss.aspx...184&position=P Well is xFIP indicator says he is basically the same pitcher during postseason. Just unusually unlucky and almost 16 percent of his flyballs are leaving the park in the post season.(9 percent regular season). Strand rate of 75 percent during the regular season which falls off to 63 percent post season. He may be grooving too many fastballs in difficult situations and a correction he should have made by now. His walks are a bit lower in the postseason. Maybe he needs to learn to put more pressure on the hitters in these pressure filled game situations. Last edited by jbergey22 : 12-02-2015 at 05:45 PM. |
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12-04-2015, 10:31 AM | #108 |
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tigers just paid $16,000,000 ($8M/yr) for...Mike Pelfrey!
dude gave up 10.8 h/9 over the past 3 seasons and his punishment is an 80% pay raise.
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12-04-2015, 07:34 PM | #109 |
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Greinke to the D'Backs on a 6 year deal. Haven't seen a dollar amount yet.
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12-04-2015, 07:36 PM | #110 |
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195 million. He wanted a 6th year
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12-04-2015, 07:43 PM | #111 |
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Cubs signed Lackey for 2 years and $32 million. Don't hate the deal, but I don't expect the same production as last year.
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12-04-2015, 08:01 PM | #112 |
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Now they are saying the Greinke deal is for $206 million.
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12-04-2015, 09:23 PM | #113 | |
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I'll take it. At that price point he just needs to be average for us to get value from those dollars.
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12-05-2015, 01:20 PM | #114 |
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Giants sign Samardzija 5/90. Should have plenty left to lock in another SP and hopefully a LF
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12-06-2015, 08:16 PM | #115 |
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Iwakuma to the Dodgers. Also sounds like they are closing in on a trade for Chapman
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12-06-2015, 09:02 PM | #116 |
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I'm a pretty big Chapman fan here in Cincy, so I'm pretty excited to hear that he might be coming to LA. Iwakuma had a good year, but he's really just another injury prone arm in the rotation.
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12-07-2015, 09:59 AM | #117 | |
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It's crazy how much change the Dodgers' roster sees from one year to the next. Their front office folks must not get any rest.
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12-07-2015, 10:26 AM | #118 |
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Love the Chris Young and Soria signings. Young has been a great part of the staff, able to fill whatever role is needed (reminds me a lot of what they did with Bruce Chen over the previous few years). Great to have Soria back in blue. He'll fill in the role of setup well with Holland being gone. Great backup option for closer too.
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12-07-2015, 01:02 PM | #119 |
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tigers pay $13M for Mark Lowe, which is surprisingly high for a guy with a career 1.1 total WAR over 10 seasons. makes you wonder if they are bidding against other suitors.
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12-07-2015, 10:27 PM | #120 |
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Red Sox trade Wade Miley to Seattle for Carson Smith and Roenis Elias. Another bullpen upgrade, but Miley was an innings-eater with a decent contract. Even as someone who loves young players with potential, you need some consistency behind David Price, and Clay Buchholz/Rick Porcello/Joe Kelly/Eduardo Rodriguez/Henry Owens/Steven Wright? has some obvious potential downsides. There are rumors we might trade Buchholz too and sign another starter, which would be interesting.
Aroldis Chapman situation is blowing up. As far as I could tell, it was announced as a deal but no one ever reported which prospects were going from LA to Cincy (reportedly no Urias or Seager). Then the Cincinnati GM says he hasn't agreed to a trade, the Dodgers sources disagree, and now reports of a domestic violence altercation involving Chapman and gunshots from October show up and the trade is almost certainly off. Weird, confusing situation. |
12-07-2015, 11:15 PM | #121 |
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David Price, Before and After pics are in!
7 years with the Tampa Bay Rays... 2007 Player Cash Earnings $6,100,000 2008 Player Cash Earnings $650,000 2009 Player Cash Earnings $750,000 2010 Player Cash Earnings $1,080,000 2011 Player Cash Earnings $1,250,000 2012 Player Cash Earnings $4,350,000 2013 Player Cash Earnings $11,112,500 7 years with the Boston Red Sox... 2016 Contract details $30,000,000 2017 Contract details $30,000,000 2018 Contract details $30,000,000 2019 Contract details $31,000,000 2020 Contract details $32,000,000 2021 Contract details $32,000,000 2022 Contract details $32,000,000 |
12-07-2015, 11:18 PM | #122 |
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2006 BOS/NYY 800k (actually prorated part of that, but whatever) 2007 TB 800k 2008 TB 6m 2009 TB 8m 2010 TB 10.125m Yes Red Sox spend more money than TB, but pointing out pre-arb and arb salaries compared to FA salaries is useless. Congrats on sucking enough in 2006 that you were 1 game worse than the Royals and could draft the obvious #1 pick. Maybe if you drafted Buster Posey instead of Tim Beckham the next year you could've won a World Series or gotten out of the first round more than once while you had 2 potential HoF'ers in Price and Longoria (a #3 overall pick) for super cheap. |
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12-08-2015, 12:50 AM | #124 | |
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Not sure i see your point unless im missing the obvious. Shouldn't a really really good pitcher, who enters free agency make more then the beginning of his career?
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12-08-2015, 02:13 AM | #125 | |
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Yes, Basically by the nature of what you just said if your 4th starter is an innings eater you are in decent shape at starter pitcher. If you are like the Twins and every year their big prize(and new ace) is an innings eater you are in tough shape as a pitching staff. I just kind of think its funny I guess that these average pitchers will have a label as an innings eater like it is somehow going to help the staff. Nolasco was an innings eater, then it was Santana, this year who knows who it will be. Last edited by jbergey22 : 12-08-2015 at 02:13 AM. |
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12-08-2015, 05:25 PM | #126 |
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The Braves are shopping Shelby Miller now?
They're seriously becoming the Indians from Major League. |
12-08-2015, 07:18 PM | #127 |
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Miller to the D-Backs, Zobrist to the Cubs
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12-08-2015, 07:29 PM | #128 |
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Starlin Castro to the Yankees is interesting
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12-08-2015, 07:46 PM | #129 |
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If Warren stretches out and turns into a decent starter, good deal for the Cubs.
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12-08-2015, 07:59 PM | #130 |
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Yeah Warren is a solid piece.
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12-08-2015, 08:37 PM | #131 | |
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Yeah, you missed the obvious. It was a simple compare and contrast of two 7-year stints. There is no suggestion there that a "really, really good pitcher who enters free agency should (not) make more then the beginning of his career". |
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12-08-2015, 08:47 PM | #132 |
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I was never a fan of Castro. Just didn't get on base enough.
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12-08-2015, 09:20 PM | #133 |
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And the D'Backs are 2015's San Diego Padres. Ender Inciarte alone is probably worth as much as Shelby Miller, and adding Dansby Swanson and Aaron Blair on top of that? Dave Stewart is a moron.
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12-08-2015, 10:46 PM | #134 | |
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Of course no need for Swanson if you don't give away an already major league caliber shortstop that's under contract until, what, 2020 IIRC. At this point it really doesn't matter much though, there's so precious little even AAA talent left in the Atlanta organization that Miller couldn't have made any real difference anyway. The last person who laid Atlanta to waste as badly as the assclown(s) now in charge was Sherman.
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12-09-2015, 05:51 AM | #135 |
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Well as much as we can criticize the Braves front office for other deals - you can't argue they got a very high price for Miller - really about as good as they could have possibly done.
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Yeah, they got a huge return for Miller, and I guess in retrospect they got it for Heyward. They got a year of a good pitcher, then some great prospects to boot. Not bad for a guy who consistently hit .265 with no walks and limited power who is probably looking for 25M.
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12-09-2015, 07:30 AM | #137 | |
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Yeah but his defense is sooooooooooooooo awesome! Good luck to anyone who commits 150m+ to a defensive outfielder. |
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12-09-2015, 07:34 AM | #138 |
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I am super excited about the Braves getting Inciarte as they will finally have a real leadoff hitter which they haven't had in a long time. Plus he fills a real need position.
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12-09-2015, 07:55 AM | #139 | |
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Just imagine what kind of trade package he'll command! Braves 2016: Trust the Process
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12-09-2015, 09:52 AM | #140 |
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Hey that's next year talk!
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Uhh... y'all do realize that we're talking about a guy with WAR above 6 for the last two years and he hasn't even hit his prime yet (for comparison's sake, Heyward's former teammate, Freddie Freeman has never hit 6 WAR and has been under 4 the last two seasons)? I mean he's no Trout or Harper, but he's definitely a great player.
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12-09-2015, 10:26 AM | #142 | |
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With a 2-season OBP of .329 ... the current major league average for leadoff hitters. That's basically Maybin with less power but half as many strikeouts
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12-09-2015, 10:30 AM | #143 |
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Amusingly, a lot of Inciarte's value is defensive. 5 WAR last year, more than half from defense. Interestingly, Heyward has a career OBP of .353.
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12-09-2015, 12:09 PM | #144 | |
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I'm thinking he'll be an upgrade on Maybin defensively and similar to him (at least the 2015 version of Maybin) in other stats. Plus he's only 24. |
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12-09-2015, 12:15 PM | #145 |
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12-09-2015, 12:34 PM | #146 | |
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I mean, it's weird that the Braves are acting like the new stadium opens in 2019 not 2017, but you really can't complain about this deal. |
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12-09-2015, 12:39 PM | #147 | |
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Oh yeah, it's not a surprise. Just hilarious that the Diamondbacks had maybe the worst GM in the game in Kevin Towers - Kevin Towers' tenure in Arizona: Four years of poor trades - Beyond the Box Score - and replaced him with someone worse. Maybe there's something in the water at that house! http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports...ning/24676467/ |
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12-09-2015, 01:53 PM | #148 |
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I didn't know Dave Stewart was a romantic either. I mean after what he did with "Lucille" and all.
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Neil Walker for Jon Niese. Walker is a good guy but we had other guys to take his place. If Niese can go back to being a 1.7WAR pitcher his deal is pretty nice.
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He's a solid back of the rotation piece that the Mets didn't need. They've been trying to trade him for over a year now and I didn't understand why a lefty that can give you 180 innings of league average performance didn't get interest before this. |
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