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Old 03-23-2004, 01:03 PM   #101
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Old 03-23-2004, 01:03 PM   #102
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I agree, the Browns already have Andre Davis and Dennis Northcutt. They don't need another WR as much as they need another offensive lineman or they would take Winslow to help Garcia.

FYI, They are currently trying to trade Northcutt - so maybe it isn't entirely out of the question that they'd take Williams if he was there.
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Old 03-23-2004, 01:03 PM   #103
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#13 is now official. TE Kellen Winslow, Jr to Buffalo

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Old 03-23-2004, 01:09 PM   #104
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Old 03-23-2004, 01:11 PM   #105
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Old 03-23-2004, 01:12 PM   #106
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FYI, They are currently trying to trade Northcutt - so maybe it isn't entirely out of the question that they'd take Williams if he was there.
I guess it isn't out of the question, but more likely they would chose a player for there more immediate needs. And Winslow fits the mold.
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Old 03-23-2004, 04:55 PM   #108
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Old 03-23-2004, 05:08 PM   #109
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Old 03-23-2004, 05:41 PM   #111
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6. Detroit Sean Taylor, S, Univerity of Miami
7. Cleveland Mike Williams, WR, USC
8. Atlanta Vince Wilfork, DT, Univerity of Miami
9. Jacksonville Roy Williams, WR, Texas
10. Houston Kenichi Udeze, DE, USC
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Old 03-23-2004, 05:42 PM   #112
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5. Washington Tommie Harris, DT, Oklahoma
6. Detroit Sean Taylor, S, Miami
7. Cleveland Mike Williams, WR, USC
8. Atlanta Vince Wilfork, DT, Miami
9. Jacksonville Roy Williams, WR, Texas
10. Houston Kenichi Udeze, DE, USC
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Old 03-23-2004, 05:43 PM   #113
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Old 03-23-2004, 05:43 PM   #114
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Old 03-23-2004, 06:05 PM   #115
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Old 03-23-2004, 06:15 PM   #116
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5. Washington Tommie Harris, DT, Oklahoma
6. Detroit Sean Taylor, S, Miami
7. Cleveland Mike Williams, WR, USC
8. Atlanta Vince Wilfork, DT, Miami
9. Jacksonville Roy Williams, WR, Texas
10. Houston Kenichi Udeze, DE, USC
11. Pittsburgh Phillip Rivers, QB, NC State
12. New York Jets Chris Gamble, CB, Ohio State
13. Buffalo Kellen Winslow Jr., TE, Miami
14. Chicago Kevin Jones, RB, Virginia Tech
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Old 03-23-2004, 06:16 PM   #117
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16. WR Reggie Williams - After the losses of TO and Tai Streets, this is a logical choice.
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Old 03-23-2004, 06:48 PM   #118
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5. Washington Tommie Harris, DT, Oklahoma
6. Detroit Sean Taylor, S, Miami
7. Cleveland Mike Williams, WR, USC
8. Atlanta Vince Wilfork, DT, Miami
9. Jacksonville Roy Williams, WR, Texas
10. Houston Kenichi Udeze, DE, USC
11. Pittsburgh Phillip Rivers, QB, NC State
12. New York Jets DeAngelo Hall, CB, Va Tech
13. Buffalo Kellen Winslow Jr., TE, Miami
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Editing #12 because it looks like Hall was picked before I was the third vote for Gamble.

Unless I post over someone, we have one vote for R. Williams right now for S.F. at #16.
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Old 03-23-2004, 06:56 PM   #119
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Old 03-27-2004, 10:30 AM   #120
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disappointed this fizzled. we need to get at least through the first round.

I think the Niners will shock the world and take Woods over Reggie Williams, I will cast my vote here for Williams to advance a pick.

1. San Diego Eli Manning, QB, Mississippi
2. Oakland Robert Gallery, OT, Iowa
3. Arizona Ben Roethlisberger, QB, Miami-Ohio
4. New York Giants Larry Fitzgerald, WR, Pittsburgh
5. Washington Tommie Harris, DT, Oklahoma
6. Detroit Sean Taylor, S, Miami
7. Cleveland Mike Williams, WR, USC
8. Atlanta Vince Wilfork, DT, Miami
9. Jacksonville Roy Williams, WR, Texas
10. Houston Kenichi Udeze, DE, USC
11. Pittsburgh Phillip Rivers, QB, NC State
12. New York Jets DeAngelo Hall, CB, Va Tech
13. Buffalo Kellen Winslow Jr., TE, Miami
14. Chicago Kevin Jones, RB, Virginia Tech
15. Tampa Bay Randy Starks, DT, Maryland
16. San Francisco Reggie Williams, WR, Washington
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Editing #12 because it looks like Hall was picked before I was the third vote for Gamble.

Unless I post over someone, we have one vote for R. Williams right now for S.F. at #16.
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Old 03-27-2004, 11:34 AM   #121
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Old 03-27-2004, 11:38 AM   #122
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Old 03-27-2004, 12:33 PM   #123
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Old 03-27-2004, 01:44 PM   #124
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Old 03-27-2004, 01:50 PM   #125
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Old 03-27-2004, 05:43 PM   #126
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18. Derrick Strait, CB, Oklahoma

(I hear that the Saints are very high on him. While this may be a bit high to pick him, I feel compelled to vote in accordance with the one piece of "inside" knowledge that I have about the draft.)
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Old 03-27-2004, 06:10 PM   #127
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Old 03-27-2004, 06:16 PM   #128
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Old 03-27-2004, 06:17 PM   #129
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Old 03-27-2004, 06:22 PM   #130
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I don't see Smith falling this far, but if he does, I agree with

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I think that D.J. Williams is more likely here.
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Old 03-27-2004, 06:32 PM   #131
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5. Washington Tommie Harris, DT, Oklahoma
6. Detroit Sean Taylor, S, Miami
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9. Jacksonville Roy Williams, WR, Texas
10. Houston Kenichi Udeze, DE, USC
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13. Buffalo Kellen Winslow Jr., TE, Miami
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Old 03-27-2004, 06:55 PM   #132
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Old 03-27-2004, 07:20 PM   #133
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Old 03-27-2004, 07:52 PM   #134
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Old 03-27-2004, 08:00 PM   #137
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Old 03-27-2004, 08:18 PM   #138
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6. Detroit Sean Taylor, S, Miami
7. Cleveland Mike Williams, WR, USC
8. Atlanta Vince Wilfork, DT, Miami
9. Jacksonville Roy Williams, WR, Texas
10. Houston Kenichi Udeze, DE, USC
11. Pittsburgh Phillip Rivers, QB, NC State
12. New York Jets DeAngelo Hall, CB, Va Tech
13. Buffalo Kellen Winslow Jr., TE, Miami
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Hmm, everyone I have seen Dallas linked to is gone. They have only second tier prospects left at the positions they need most. The best of the bunch is:

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Old 03-28-2004, 05:12 PM   #142
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Old 03-28-2004, 05:37 PM   #143
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credibility....fading.....
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credibility....fading.....

Really care to tell me why? He is a legit 6'3 runs a 4.5 and did well in all his drills for scouts. I know he isn't a first round but I feel he should go to Dallas seeing how they may need a young receiver in the future after MeShawn retires or becomes even more non productive...
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Really care to tell me why? He is a legit 6'3 runs a 4.5 and did well in all his drills for scouts. I know he isn't a first round but I feel he should go to Dallas seeing how they may need a young receiver in the future after MeShawn retires or becomes even more non productive...

So even by your own admission, with a great number of better receivers available... they're going to take P.K. Sam?

And I don't think they'll take a WR in the first round.
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Old 03-28-2004, 07:36 PM   #149
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