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I agree that Ford wins easily when it comes to mass appeal.
How about Johnny Depp: Captain Jack Sparrow/Edward Scissorhands? I know Scissorhands is cult, but I'm tryin' ovah heah!
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Clint Eastwood - the Man with No Name & Dirty Harry?
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At least in terms of Box Office as a measure of iconography, Orlando Bloom has to be up there, right, for Legolas (Lord of the Rings) and Will Turner (Pirates of the Caribbean).
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Alot of the suggestions are for good actors, playing a great part, or a great movie.
Orlando Bloom's Will Turner, or Tom Cruises Cole Trickle are no where near iconic in any way possible. Good parts, good performances, good movies, but be realistic. Ford, Stallone, Pacino, Brando, DeNiro all belong in the conversation. Depp, Hackman, blah blah don't, despite being great great actors.
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Did anyone mention Clint Eastwood yet? /ducks
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Well yeah, if we're including TV then I think the Marty McFly/Alex Keaton mention earlier has to get some love.
I still think the top 3 are clearly Ford/Stallone/Eastwood
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I can't believe the discussion continued after Charlton Heston.
And, people, to not even include him in the top three?
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From more recent times:
Kevin Spacey: Keyser Soze/Verbal Kint (The Usual Suspects) Lester Burnham (American Beauty) John Doe (Se7en) John Williamson (Glengarry Glen Ross) Rufus Buckley (A Time To Kill) Maybe not the stratospheric levels of icon-ess of Ford/Stallone/et. al., but an impressive breadth of iconic roles nonetheless. All of them very memorable and very different.
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Stroker Ace and The Bandit.
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Since we're now to the point of just throwing names out there, how about this one.
Matt Damon ~ Will Hunting & Jason Bourne
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Yeah, we're really reaching at this point. And I fail to see how Heston approaches Ford or Stallone.
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Make a switch for Stroker Ace and I'd think you'd actually have an argument. Maybe Lewis from Deliverance, or Paul Crewe from the Longest Yard....or JJ from Canonball Run.
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Is there really a character called "Stroker Ace"?
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What about Rodney Dangerfield in that one movie...you know...where he's really sarcastic?
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There's an entire MOVIE called Stroker Ace!
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What about the black guy from Ghostbusters? I thought he was pretty good.
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Yeah, this has almost become a thread for people to post movie characters that they like. Half of which I've either not heard of or had to struggle to remember who they were. I think an iconic character has to be one that is pretty much easily recognizable by both fans and non-fans of the movie or movie series. Without a doubt I would imagine my wife would know who both Han Solo and Indiana Jones is. Likewise I am 99.9% sure she knows who Rambo or Rocky are, despite probably never seeing a single Rambo or Rocky movie ever. |
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I think that's partially true, but if non-fans are the determining factor you kinda get stuck with movies 10-30 years old, simply because some movies aren't old enough to have saturated the public consciousness, and many have faded away. In another 20-30 years, will the names 'Han Solo' and 'Indiana Jones' mean something to the wives of the day, whom have never seen either movie, and perhaps haven't spent a generation listening to husbands, boyfriends, brothers, and friends repeating those names every ten minutes?
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Well, I think you have to apply that to the time. Possibly the same thing I just said about Rocky/Rambo or Han Solo/Indy could be said to be true for Clint Eastwood's characters 20 years ago as well. Likewise I still think my initial comment that Humphrey Bogart would be the #1 on my list is true as well even though he was from many years ago. My comment was more in regards to the various current names being tossed up that clearly don't feel iconic to me. |
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I was going to go the TV route for MTM and Laura Petrie/Mary Richards, but Howard probably has that beat.
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If we're going with TV, I'll go out on a limb and say that there's one character who, even though he was only in one series, trumps them all.
Homer Simpson.
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1. Hoke Colburn (Driving Miss Daisy) 2. Ellis Boyd "Red" Redding (Shawshank Redemption) Although I think the Chevy Chase one is the closest.
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In my crapass opinion, these are the arguable ones:
Indy/Han Solo Conan/Terminator Rambo/Rocky Man With No Name/Dirty Harry All of those characters were featured in multiple roles, and are recognizable by just anybody with a passing knowledge of movies. I'd probably put Heston, Bogart and Julie Andrews right on the edge.
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I agree with this list. All of the others mentioned are too obscure or marginal iconic. Even with the big names, a movie fan would be hard pressed to know the names of some of the characters mentioned (but perhaps more recognized visually). Brando certainly for Vito but who the hell was Kowalski? DeNiro and Bickle??? Just like with the drafts, if you have to look up the character's name in imdb, then perhaps it's not as iconic as you think? |
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Julie Andrews is hardly on the edge if we're opening this to both genders. Maria and Mary Poppins are clearly iconic. |
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I certainly think that's arguable. I had her in the top originally, but put her on the edge simply because she only played the roles once.
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Quantity doesn't equal quality...especially in this kind of discussion. I'd argue Vivien Leigh in Gone with the Wind is 10 times more iconic on it's own than a combo of Conan/Terminator or Rambo/Rocky. This question appears to be being looked at with way too much of a modern male slant. |
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Reading the thread title might help understand why it doesn't matter how iconic one single performance is.
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You missed my point or I didn't explain it well. My point was in reference to the comment that Julie Andrews performances don't count as much because she was only in those roles once. My point is that just because someone played the role three, four, or five times that doesn't outweigh someone playing a role once. |
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Well sure, but I think Rocky/Rambo/Indiana Jones/Han Solo are certainly more instantly identifiable than Maria. Mary Poppins is up there with those, but Maria not so much.
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I think that all depends on how you define "iconic"...in a purely filmic sense I might agree with you (and earlier examples of Bogart, Brando, Nicholson, and my own examples Newman, Wells, and James Dean), but my interpretation of 'iconic' in this case is much more along the lines of a pop culture icon, which is a different creature altogether.
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Maybe, but I don't think that's quite as iconic as the others we're talking about.
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If we're throwing TV out there, Peter Graves as Jim Phelps (Mission Impossible) and Capt Oveur (Airplane movies).
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Agreed. We're not talking about quality of performance. When you think of Harrison Ford, you think Han Solo/Indiana Jones. Those are instantly definable. Stallone is Rocky/Rambo. Vivien Leigh is Scarlett, but Blance? That's not quite as automatic. Same with Julie Andrews. People immediately think Mary Poppins. Now they might think "The Sound of Music", but the actual character isn't quite as iconic.
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I think Julie Andrews, and the Maria role in particular, is probably the best example of a character currently teetering on the edge of pop culture icon, and I'd agree with you that 10-20 years ago it isn't even a question.
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