Werewolf CXXVIII - The Original Werewolves - VILLAGERS WIN

[Barkeep49]

And my series of posts makes it seem like I'm out to get Jackal. I'm not.

[Danny]

Originally Posted by Barkeep49

Really? Good gut feeling? You the cultist? Cause absent that or being a wolf how can you possibly form a gut feeling from his 8 posts?

Because I generally read Jackal very well when he is a wolf. You can certainly get a gut feeling about someone from 8 posts.

[saldana]

Originally Posted by Danny

I don't like the reasoning for this vote. 30 minutes before deadline? Sure, but there's nothing wrong with a tie vote with so much time left.

really danny...come one...we learn a shitton more by seeing who recreates the tie than we do by seeing who breaks it...

[The Jackal]

Originally Posted by Barkeep49

And my series of posts makes it seem like I'm out to get Jackal. I'm not.

You just want my beer, I understand. I'm opening a tavern when all these werewolves are gone, you can be my barkeep!

[Danny]

Originally Posted by saldana

really danny...come one...we learn a shitton more by seeing who recreates the tie than we do by seeing who breaks it...

We learn from both. But being overly worried about a tie and how bad they are over two hours before deadline is pushing it. If you thought Zinto was the best candidate then fine, but if you only voted him so as to not tie it up, that is weak reasoning.

[dwardzala]

Um, does anybody ever have any reasoning that isn't weak on Day 1???

[The Jackal]

Originally Posted by dwardzala

Um, does anybody ever have any reasoning that isn't weak on Day 1???

Not really. Unless someone sends a PM they meant to send to their wolf teammates, or they say things in the thread about the game mechanics that seem very anti-villager, but this is a vanilla game so you're not going to get that. Basically day ones put a random group of people on the block, and you hope that at least one is a wolf and it forces people to make saving/misdirecting votes.

[Autumn]

Originally Posted by Barkeep49

You're right. It was Autumn. Damn never should have given him the satisfaction of signing up for this game.

"Mwa ha ha ha ha"

[mckerney]

Originally Posted by dwardzala

Um, does anybody ever have any reasoning that isn't weak on Day 1???

The only reasoning I can think of people use on day one is revenge and spite or making sure Lathum doesn't last past day one.

[bhlloy]

Or somebody starts bragging about their 3 hot daughters... but yeah, Day 1 is mostly about keeping it close, and hoping you have a wolf somewhere among the candidates so it means something down the line (from what I've seen so far and I'm almost as new as you are)

[The Jackal]

Don't hate the roleplayer, hate the boredom

[Autumn]

Vote count as of post 110

Zinto 4 - JAG (52), Darth Vilus (81), saldana (93), dwardzala (94)
JAG 3 - Lathum (61), mauboy (84), Danny (96)
Darth Vilus 3 - The Jackal (63), Zinto (70), Chief Rum (83)
The Jackal 3 - mckerney (66), Barkeep49 (82), bhlloy (85)
Mckerney 1 - J23 (78)

[The Jackal]

(not that your game is boring, Autumn, just day 1 )

[The Jackal]

Man, quite the vote spread we've got.

[Autumn]

Originally Posted by The Jackal

(not that your game is boring, Autumn, just day 1 )

[Lathum]

Originally Posted by mckerney

The only reasoning I can think of people use on day one is revenge and spite or making sure Lathum doesn't last past day one.

Day 1 usually isnt an issue, it has been D2 of late that has gotten me.

[Lathum]

What interest me is Jackal is on Darth, as opposed to being on Zinto right now and putting 2 votes between Zinto and himself

[The Jackal]

Originally Posted by Lathum

What interest me is Jackal is on Darth, as opposed to being on Zinto right now and putting 2 votes between Zinto and himself

I'm just slightly bothered that both DV and JAG's votes are on Zinto. There's an hour left, I'll move if I need to.

[The Jackal]

Besides, the vote count was -just- posted, I haven't had time to make a decision!

[Lathum]

Originally Posted by The Jackal

I'm just slightly bothered that both DV and JAG's votes are on Zinto. There's an hour left, I'll move if I need to.

That actually makes perfect sense if you think about it, they are putting both their votes onto one player to put distance between that player and themselves.

[saldana]

Originally Posted by Danny

We learn from both. But being overly worried about a tie and how bad they are over two hours before deadline is pushing it. If you thought Zinto was the best candidate then fine, but if you only voted him so as to not tie it up, that is weak reasoning.

but a "gut feeling" based on 8 posts is rock solid!!??

[The Jackal]

Originally Posted by Lathum

That actually makes perfect sense if you think about it, they are putting both their votes onto one player to put distance between that player and themselves.

They were the first two votes on him, though. Not like one chose him late out of self preservation. It's probably nothing, but like I said, I have plenty of time to move if need be.

[Danny]

Originally Posted by saldana

but a "gut feeling" based on 8 posts is rock solid!!??

Of course not, and that wasn't the reasoning for my vote and was even in a completely separate post. That was just stating a read thus far.

[JAG]

Why are people worried about ties? Per the rules, there is still a lynch on a tie, tiebreaker being the oldest vote.

The most suspicious thing I noticed today was J23 introducing a 5th candidate when it was something like 2-2-1-1. Suspicion might be too strong a word though, more like I was surprised by it. Zinto's comment was a bit off as well, but meh.

[JAG]

Originally Posted by The Jackal

I'm just slightly bothered that both DV and JAG's votes are on Zinto. There's an hour left, I'll move if I need to.

By that reasoning, we should be concerned about you and Zinto having the first two votes on DV.

[mckerney]

Originally Posted by Lathum

Day 1 usually isnt an issue, it has been D2 of late that has gotten me.

Oh right, if you were a villager you would've been night killed night one so if you're still alive that means you're a wolf.

[The Jackal]

Originally Posted by JAG

By that reasoning, we should be concerned about you and Zinto having the first two votes on DV.

Fair enough, heh.

[The Jackal]

I guess I will "add distance", hoping that Zinto turns up toothy.

UNVOTE DV
VOTE ZINTO

[Lathum]

Originally Posted by mckerney

Oh right, if you were a villager you would've been night killed night one so if you're still alive that means you're a wolf.

well, I was actually killed as a wolf the last 2-3 games at night by a mechanic.

[The Jackal]

lathum, set a date for the draft?

[The Jackal]

oh, there is a date set. that's dumb that it doesn't announce it on the frontpage.

[mauchow]

I think people having gut feelings on day 1 votes need to see if it's something they need to sit on the toilet for..

On gut feelings, I've had some good day one feelings in the past too that have definitely carried along; so we'll see if it was poopy feelings or your wolf radar.

[Zinto]

Well with only 30 minutes left till my untimely demise I guess I should go find one of Jackal's daughters and hopefully make at least three minutes of the time worthwhile.

[Autumn]

Vote count as of post 133

Zinto 5 - JAG (52), Darth Vilus (81), saldana (93), dwardzala (94), The Jackal (128)
JAG 3 - Lathum (61), mauboy (84), Danny (96)
Darth Vilus 2 - Zinto (70), Chief Rum (83)
The Jackal 3 - mckerney (66), Barkeep49 (82), bhlloy (85)
Mckerney 1 - J23 (78)

[The Jackal]

Originally Posted by Zinto

Well with only 30 minutes left till my untimely demise I guess I should go find one of Jackal's daughters and hopefully make at least three minutes of the time worthwhile.

*shakes pitchfork and crossbow*

[EagleFan]

Paging Jackal!!!!


GOOOOOOOOAAAAAAAAAAAALLLLLLL!!!!!!! 3-3





You may return to your werewolf station...

[Danny]

I'm not feeling optimistic about this vote

[The Jackal]

[The Jackal]

Damnit, Danny, you ruined my response

[The Jackal]

And getting back to WW, yeah, I don't feel great about it either. I was hoping there'd be some movement on other candidates (other or including myself, I guess), kind of surprised there's been nothing.

[JAG]

I think I have seen two games out of quite a few where a wolf gets lynched D1 (and one of those times it was a wolf duking it to another wolf). Yet every game I get my hopes up.

[The Jackal]

Originally Posted by JAG

I think I have seen two games out of quite a few where a wolf gets lynched D1 (and one of those times it was a wolf duking it to another wolf). Yet every game I get my hopes up.

It really doesn't happen that often. In fact I've been surprised at the regularity at which we've had 1+ wolf candidates on the block day one lately.

[Zinto]

Yeah hopefully today proves to be useful down the line which more then likely it will even though there has been no movement with the votes.

[The Jackal]

I still feel better about voting for DV, I like votes for people who remain silent over ones who post without much wolfiness in their tones. So many people play the silent wolf, especially early on, because people that talk more often get targeted by at least one or two people just because they've been noticed. But DV has been sparse in the past few games, so maybe it's a time issue. But hey, he was a wolf last time!

[The Jackal]

Granted a vote for someone who isn't around D1 can be -very- bad on the other hand, because they could be a village role that hasn't had a chance to check in and see how high they were on the block, and that's bad especially with a late swing. Zinto would've revealed by now if he were the seer or some such.

[The Jackal]

DANNY BOY!

(not you, briere)

[Zinto]

Originally Posted by The Jackal

I still feel better about voting for DV, I like votes for people who remain silent over ones who post without much wolfiness in their tones. So many people play the silent wolf, especially early on, because people that talk more often get targeted by at least one or two people just because they've been noticed. But DV has been sparse in the past few games, so maybe it's a time issue. But hey, he was a wolf last time!

I am trying now to strike the balance between barely talking and talking too much. If you never talk then you must be a wolf or a newbie. If you start posting too much everything you say gets over analyzed and bites you in the butt.

And yes Jackal if I had a role I would have already revealed so no worries there.

[The Jackal]

I mean sometimes it really just is a time issue, we've got lives and can't always be around everyday. But yeah, people will definitely slowplay wolves quite often, at least one member of the team.

[EagleFan]

Originally Posted by The Jackal

DANNY BOY!

(not you, briere)

[JAG]

I think DV said he was busy today but would have more time the rest of the week.