Werewolf CXI - Beowulf (GAME OVER - VILLAGE WINS!) - Page 3

Telle · 03-16-2010, 03:19 PM

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Originally Posted by PurdueBrad

This'll look bad if he turns up wolf, but I jokingly voted Claphamsa to welcome him back and didn't realize his reason for leaving. Let me lay off now so I don't feel quite as guilty and, if it gets me lynched, so be it.

unvote Claphamsa

Interestingly enough, a vote on clap would have been a good place for a wolf to hide a vote since you know nobody's going to follow you and actually vote him off on Day 1. But now you've unvoted him, so I guess that doesn't really mean anything anymore.

Telle · 03-16-2010, 03:24 PM

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Originally Posted by claphamsa

I think this is awful reasoning by danny, just awful. reminds me why i havent played in the last couple months

unvote ef
vote danny

Is it really any worse than just voting for the first person on the list though? Or any other stupid reason that someone comes up with for a Day 1 vote? We have nothing to go on at this point, so we come up with bullshit reasons just to get a vote in.

claphamsa · 03-16-2010, 03:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Telle

Is it really any worse than just voting for the first person on the list though? Or any other stupid reason that someone comes up with for a Day 1 vote? We have nothing to go on at this point, so we come up with bullshit reasons just to get a vote in.

i think its way worse. voting for the first person is silly, but what else do you have? voting for someone based on their past play just shoudlnt be part of it.

Danny · 03-16-2010, 03:40 PM

How exactly did I vote for you based on past play?

henry296 · 03-16-2010, 03:40 PM

I probably would vote Abe given his earlier question about lack for rationale, but no need for another candidate at this point.

Therefore, I'm going to vote for

EagleFan

The Jackal · 03-16-2010, 03:42 PM

EF 2 (Poli 52, henry 105)
clap 2 (Abe 72, Danny 89)
PB 2 (DV 78, EF 81)
poli 1 (CF 83)
Danny 1 (clap 93)

claphamsa · 03-16-2010, 03:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Danny

How exactly did I vote for you based on past play?

now your playing dumb to obscure facts. u suggested people vote PB based on past games.

EagleFan · 03-16-2010, 04:04 PM

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Originally Posted by claphamsa

now your playing dumb to obscure facts. u suggested people vote PB based on past games.

I don't think he ever suggested that. He was merely kidding around with PB (in my eyes).

EagleFan · 03-16-2010, 04:05 PM

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Originally Posted by henry296

I probably would vote Abe given his earlier question about lack for rationale, but no need for another candidate at this point.

Therefore, I'm going to vote for

EagleFan

Can we get a ruling on this vote?

I just see a bolded name but no actual bolded action, maybe he just really likes my screen name.

henry296 · 03-16-2010, 04:10 PM

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Originally Posted by EagleFan

Can we get a ruling on this vote?

I just see a bolded name but no actual bolded action, maybe he just really likes my screen name.

I did write vote in the line above...

EagleFan · 03-16-2010, 04:10 PM

Hopefully there aren't any overreactions going on here today. There seemed to be a lot of good natured posts but maybe some of thre inside jokes aren't being viewed in that light.

I think there may be a lot of good information from today's vote.

If I missed it, what is the rule on a tie?

Telle · 03-16-2010, 04:10 PM

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Originally Posted by henry296

I did write vote in the line above...

Would you mind re-voting just so we can be sure that's a legal vote, please?

Thank you.

PurdueBrad · 03-16-2010, 04:10 PM

Looking at the list of options, it goes w/o saying that I won't vote myself or Claphamsa at this point (except for self-defense).

That leaves EF, Danny, and Poli. I don't love how hard it is to vote for Poli on D1's now and I think it's a great way to hide a vote as a wolf because you can claim that it was because of his D1 voting style. I play the odds with EF right now, he was a wolf last game so the odds are that he wouldn't be a wolf again (weak reasoning but I'm trying to fight the urge to retaliate vote). And I have pushed Danny out a lot as of late, particularly early. Not great reasons, but I need to go. So, with the early deadline and the need to get a vote in, I'll go:

vote Poli

EagleFan · 03-16-2010, 04:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Telle

Would you mind re-voting just so we can be sure that's a legal vote, please?

Thank you.

But try a different name this time...

EagleFan · 03-16-2010, 04:14 PM

Wanted to point out that you weren't my first vote on day one PB.

EagleFan · 03-16-2010, 04:17 PM

Okay, I got over my laziness and read page one. I see it says no lynch is possible but the result of a tie is known only by him. Am I correct to assume that means a vote of "no lynch" is allowed but there is a tie break mechanism known only by Jackal in the event of a tie?

EagleFan · 03-16-2010, 04:21 PM

unvote PB

vote Danny

Going on a hunch, was looking at the names of the players and wondered if the roles were random or "picked". Two names jumped out at me to answer the question to myself of "who would I pick as wolves?" if I was hand picking.

EagleFan · 03-16-2010, 04:25 PM

as of 117:

EagleFan 2 - Poli (52), henry (105)
claphamsa 2 - Abe (72), Danny (89)
Poli 2 - CrimsonFox (83), PurdueBrad (113)
PurdueBrad 1 - Darth Vilus (78)
Danny 1 - claphamsa (93), EagleFan (117)

EagleFan · 03-16-2010, 04:26 PM

as of 117 (if I could add to two for Danny's votes):

EagleFan 2 - Poli (52), henry (105)
claphamsa 2 - Abe (72), Danny (89)
Poli 2 - CrimsonFox (83), PurdueBrad (113)
Danny 2 - claphamsa (93), EagleFan (117)
PurdueBrad 1 - Darth Vilus (78)

Danny · 03-16-2010, 04:26 PM

That brings up a question, does anyone actually hand pick wolves? I thought we all did it randomly.

EagleFan · 03-16-2010, 04:26 PM

If I see that right, Telle has yet to vote.

The Jackal · 03-16-2010, 04:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EagleFan

Can we get a ruling on this vote?

I just see a bolded name but no actual bolded action, maybe he just really likes my screen name.

I counted it as a legal vote but would prefer the normal voting procedure in the future.

The Jackal · 03-16-2010, 04:30 PM

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Originally Posted by EagleFan

Okay, I got over my laziness and read page one. I see it says no lynch is possible but the result of a tie is known only by him. Am I correct to assume that means a vote of "no lynch" is allowed but there is a tie break mechanism known only by Jackal in the event of a tie?

Right on both accounts.

henry296 · 03-16-2010, 04:31 PM

vote EagleFan just to be clear.

EagleFan · 03-16-2010, 04:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Danny

That brings up a question, does anyone actually hand pick wolves? I thought we all did it randomly.

I have hand picked wolves and roles in the past, the last game that I ran was actually the first time I went 100% random.

When I hand pick I have tried to spread it out from game to game to mix things up.

The trick is not having a pattern when doing that (so I try to mix it up and may random some roles/wolves but hand pick others and in one game I hand picked everything, the Charmed game I believe it was).

Telle · 03-16-2010, 04:32 PM

So I get to break a four-way tie? Goodness.. no pressure now

The Jackal · 03-16-2010, 04:33 PM

And EF's count appears correct, with Telle yet to vote.

EagleFan · 03-16-2010, 04:33 PM

dola: That could actually be a good discussion thread. The mechanics of selecting roles/sides.

EagleFan · 03-16-2010, 04:33 PM

well, thought it was a dola.

The Jackal · 03-16-2010, 04:34 PM

As to picking wolves, every game I've done has been random and I don't see myself doing it differently unless I do a game with a public role or something.

EagleFan · 03-16-2010, 04:37 PM

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Originally Posted by The Jackal

As to picking wolves, every game I've done has been random and I don't see myself doing it differently unless I do a game with a public role or something.

So much for my theory...

Actually, not so much a theory that you had done it that way but more of something that just jumped into my head in an "I wonder" kind of way.

Telle · 03-16-2010, 04:39 PM

Well, I don't want to vote clap because he hasn't played in awhile and thus deserves to get past Day 1. I don't want to vote EagleFan, as a reward for being an awesome teammate last game (just a Day 1 vote thing.. this will NOT carry forward to future days). So that leaves Poli and Danny. Hmmmmm....

Telle · 03-16-2010, 04:43 PM

I'm going to go with Poli. Just 'cause.

vote Poli

Danny · 03-16-2010, 04:49 PM

Unvote Clap
Vote EF

This doesn't really change the likely result as EF is able to switch and Poli not, but let's see if anyone else bites to try and make a save

Danny · 03-16-2010, 04:49 PM

Unvote Clap
Vote EF

EagleFan · 03-16-2010, 04:49 PM

Crud, wanted to make it a two horse race to see if anything shakes loose but not voting myself and don't want to vote clap on day one in his return.

EagleFan · 03-16-2010, 04:50 PM

lol, but Danny beat me to it.

EagleFan · 03-16-2010, 04:50 PM

well played Danny, well played.

Telle · 03-16-2010, 04:51 PM

Well unfortunately I have to run as I want to go to the store before my knitting group tonight. Hopefully this turns out well

EagleFan · 03-16-2010, 04:51 PM

Now I have to move my vote, thus saving you from being in the mix...

EagleFan · 03-16-2010, 04:54 PM

Something tells me that Poli is a villager. That makes it win/win for the wolves with us as the top two.

EagleFan · 03-16-2010, 04:54 PM

Sorry about all the posts, just trying to think my way through this and get my thoughts out there now before the deadline.

EagleFan · 03-16-2010, 04:58 PM

Here's my thought process at the moment, for analysis later in the game.

Me = vanilla

That leaves 9 players and two are most likely wolves.

Poli - 22% chance of being a wolf
Poli - 33% chance of being a roled villager (3 roled villagers, that could really help the village as the brutal villager is pretty much a crap shoot at this point)

EagleFan · 03-16-2010, 04:59 PM

It may be worth it to roll the dice and let the tie breaker make the call.

Danny · 03-16-2010, 05:00 PM

Seriously? If you're a villager, move your vote. It makes no sense not to

The Jackal · 03-16-2010, 05:01 PM

DEADLINE

The Jackal · 03-16-2010, 05:01 PM

Results in a few minutes.

Danny · 03-16-2010, 05:01 PM

And I understand your math, but if you know you're a villager, don't just let yourself get lynched or a possible no lynch.

EagleFan · 03-16-2010, 05:05 PM

I got distracted by a work question after my last post.

EagleFan · 03-16-2010, 05:06 PM

dola: there were also others around who could have broken the tie

03-16-2010, 03:40 PM	#105
henry296 College Starter Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Pittsburgh, PA	I probably would vote Abe given his earlier question about lack for rationale, but no need for another candidate at this point. Therefore, I'm going to vote for EagleFan __________________ "It's a great day for hockey" - "Badger" Bob Johnson

03-16-2010, 04:31 PM	#124
henry296 College Starter Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Pittsburgh, PA	vote EagleFan just to be clear. __________________ "It's a great day for hockey" - "Badger" Bob Johnson

03-16-2010, 03:40 PM	#104
Danny Head Coach Join Date: Jul 2001	How exactly did I vote for you based on past play?

03-16-2010, 03:42 PM	#106
The Jackal Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: New Hampshire	EF 2 (Poli 52, henry 105) clap 2 (Abe 72, Danny 89) PB 2 (DV 78, EF 81) poli 1 (CF 83) Danny 1 (clap 93)

03-16-2010, 04:10 PM	#111
EagleFan Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Mays Landing, NJ USA	Hopefully there aren't any overreactions going on here today. There seemed to be a lot of good natured posts but maybe some of thre inside jokes aren't being viewed in that light. I think there may be a lot of good information from today's vote. If I missed it, what is the rule on a tie?

03-16-2010, 04:10 PM	#113
PurdueBrad Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: DeKalb, IL	Looking at the list of options, it goes w/o saying that I won't vote myself or Claphamsa at this point (except for self-defense). That leaves EF, Danny, and Poli. I don't love how hard it is to vote for Poli on D1's now and I think it's a great way to hide a vote as a wolf because you can claim that it was because of his D1 voting style. I play the odds with EF right now, he was a wolf last game so the odds are that he wouldn't be a wolf again (weak reasoning but I'm trying to fight the urge to retaliate vote). And I have pushed Danny out a lot as of late, particularly early. Not great reasons, but I need to go. So, with the early deadline and the need to get a vote in, I'll go: vote Poli

03-16-2010, 04:14 PM	#115
EagleFan Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Mays Landing, NJ USA	Wanted to point out that you weren't my first vote on day one PB.

03-16-2010, 04:17 PM	#116
EagleFan Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Mays Landing, NJ USA	Okay, I got over my laziness and read page one. I see it says no lynch is possible but the result of a tie is known only by him. Am I correct to assume that means a vote of "no lynch" is allowed but there is a tie break mechanism known only by Jackal in the event of a tie?

03-16-2010, 04:21 PM	#117
EagleFan Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Mays Landing, NJ USA	unvote PB vote Danny Going on a hunch, was looking at the names of the players and wondered if the roles were random or "picked". Two names jumped out at me to answer the question to myself of "who would I pick as wolves?" if I was hand picking.

03-16-2010, 04:25 PM	#118
EagleFan Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Mays Landing, NJ USA	as of 117: EagleFan 2 - Poli (52), henry (105) claphamsa 2 - Abe (72), Danny (89) Poli 2 - CrimsonFox (83), PurdueBrad (113) PurdueBrad 1 - Darth Vilus (78) Danny 1 - claphamsa (93), EagleFan (117)

03-16-2010, 04:26 PM	#119
EagleFan Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Mays Landing, NJ USA	as of 117 (if I could add to two for Danny's votes): EagleFan 2 - Poli (52), henry (105) claphamsa 2 - Abe (72), Danny (89) Poli 2 - CrimsonFox (83), PurdueBrad (113) Danny 2 - claphamsa (93), EagleFan (117) PurdueBrad 1 - Darth Vilus (78)

03-16-2010, 04:26 PM	#120
Danny Head Coach Join Date: Jul 2001	That brings up a question, does anyone actually hand pick wolves? I thought we all did it randomly.

03-16-2010, 04:26 PM	#121
EagleFan Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Mays Landing, NJ USA	If I see that right, Telle has yet to vote.

03-16-2010, 04:32 PM	#126
Telle College Starter Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Buffalo, NY	So I get to break a four-way tie? Goodness.. no pressure now

03-16-2010, 04:33 PM	#127
The Jackal Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: New Hampshire	And EF's count appears correct, with Telle yet to vote.

03-16-2010, 04:33 PM	#128
EagleFan Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Mays Landing, NJ USA	dola: That could actually be a good discussion thread. The mechanics of selecting roles/sides.

03-16-2010, 04:33 PM	#129
EagleFan Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Mays Landing, NJ USA	well, thought it was a dola.

03-16-2010, 04:34 PM	#130
The Jackal Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: New Hampshire	As to picking wolves, every game I've done has been random and I don't see myself doing it differently unless I do a game with a public role or something.

03-16-2010, 04:39 PM	#132
Telle College Starter Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Buffalo, NY	Well, I don't want to vote clap because he hasn't played in awhile and thus deserves to get past Day 1. I don't want to vote EagleFan, as a reward for being an awesome teammate last game (just a Day 1 vote thing.. this will NOT carry forward to future days). So that leaves Poli and Danny. Hmmmmm....

03-16-2010, 04:43 PM	#133
Telle College Starter Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Buffalo, NY	I'm going to go with Poli. Just 'cause. vote Poli

03-16-2010, 04:49 PM	#134
Danny Head Coach Join Date: Jul 2001	Unvote Clap Vote EF This doesn't really change the likely result as EF is able to switch and Poli not, but let's see if anyone else bites to try and make a save

03-16-2010, 04:49 PM	#135
Danny Head Coach Join Date: Jul 2001	Unvote Clap Vote EF

03-16-2010, 04:49 PM	#136
EagleFan Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Mays Landing, NJ USA	Crud, wanted to make it a two horse race to see if anything shakes loose but not voting myself and don't want to vote clap on day one in his return.

03-16-2010, 04:50 PM	#137
EagleFan Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Mays Landing, NJ USA	lol, but Danny beat me to it.

03-16-2010, 04:50 PM	#138
EagleFan Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Mays Landing, NJ USA	well played Danny, well played.

03-16-2010, 04:51 PM	#139
Telle College Starter Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Buffalo, NY	Well unfortunately I have to run as I want to go to the store before my knitting group tonight. Hopefully this turns out well

03-16-2010, 04:51 PM	#140
EagleFan Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Mays Landing, NJ USA	Now I have to move my vote, thus saving you from being in the mix...

03-16-2010, 04:54 PM	#141
EagleFan Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Mays Landing, NJ USA	Something tells me that Poli is a villager. That makes it win/win for the wolves with us as the top two.

03-16-2010, 04:54 PM	#142
EagleFan Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Mays Landing, NJ USA	Sorry about all the posts, just trying to think my way through this and get my thoughts out there now before the deadline.

03-16-2010, 04:58 PM	#143
EagleFan Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Mays Landing, NJ USA	Here's my thought process at the moment, for analysis later in the game. Me = vanilla That leaves 9 players and two are most likely wolves. Poli - 22% chance of being a wolf Poli - 33% chance of being a roled villager (3 roled villagers, that could really help the village as the brutal villager is pretty much a crap shoot at this point)

03-16-2010, 04:59 PM	#144
EagleFan Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Mays Landing, NJ USA	It may be worth it to roll the dice and let the tie breaker make the call.

03-16-2010, 05:00 PM	#145
Danny Head Coach Join Date: Jul 2001	Seriously? If you're a villager, move your vote. It makes no sense not to