The Official 2014 Stanley Cup Playoffs Thread - Page 3

The Jackal · 04-22-2014, 01:03 PM

I bet Cooke will get 5-6 games. To ensure he doesn't play again vs the Avs and carry over into the next round if the Wild manage to come back.

Dr. Sak · 04-22-2014, 07:24 PM

Craig Berube waited over a decade to punch Jeremy Roenick in the face - Broad Street Hockey

DaddyTorgo · 04-22-2014, 07:27 PM

Hell of a first period by the B's.

2-0 lead. Shut down the Red Wings offensively (I just missed the stat on how many shots they had, but there was at least a 8-9 minute stretch where they had none).

Forcing mistakes and capitalizing.

DaddyTorgo · 04-22-2014, 07:35 PM

dola

4 shots for DET in 1st period

The Jackal · 04-22-2014, 07:58 PM

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Craig Berube waited over a decade to punch Jeremy Roenick in the face - Broad Street Hockey

This is an awesome hockey story

Dutch · 04-22-2014, 08:24 PM

Lightning 3rd string goalie (whats-his-name) is gonna get the keys to the city if he keeps this up.

Dutch · 04-22-2014, 08:40 PM

And the legend will be amazing if they survive this power-play with 2 minutes left in the 3rd period.

Dutch · 04-22-2014, 08:41 PM

He didn't survive it...oh well, good game by what's-his-name anyway.

Dutch · 04-22-2014, 08:46 PM

Kristers Gudlevskis is his name, fwiw.

All in all, it was a fun season of Lightning Hockey.

MacroGuru · 04-22-2014, 09:30 PM

Detroit didn't look like they wanted to play tonight until the 3rd period.

I fucking hate Boston right now, actually a few of their players...with the weasel Marchand being #1 and Charra as #2. I would fucking go after both of them anytime I could if I was on the ice. Charra may whip my ass, but you know what, I wouldn't back down and run like some of the other players do.

TroyF · 04-22-2014, 09:32 PM

Just had to laugh at this AP story of the Red Wings/Bruins game.

DETROIT -- Tuukka Rask finished with a 23-save shutout to give the Boston Bruins a 3-0 win over the Detroit Red Wings on Tuesday night for a 2-1 playoff series lead.

Dougie Hamilton and Jordan Caron scored in the first period, and Patrice Bergeron added an empty-net goal late in the game. The Presidents' Trophy-winning Bruins are ahead for the first time in the opening-round series. And, it seems like a commanding lead the way Boston has played the past two games.

Detroit has to win Game 4 on Thursday night to avoid facing elimination when the series shifts back to Boston.

Jimmy Howard made 31 saves for the Red Wings, who needed him to make what appeared to be a routine stop midway through the first period on the first goal. He couldn't.

Poor Jimmy. He couldn't.

The Jackal · 04-22-2014, 09:49 PM

Bleh. I didn't expect the Flyers to mostly own and lose in that fashion. Props to the Rangers for blocking so many shots.

BishopMVP · 04-22-2014, 10:30 PM

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Kristers Gudlevskis is his name, fwiw.

All in all, it was a fun season of Lightning Hockey.

Not even his best performance I've seen in the last 2 months... he was the Latvian goalie who made 55 saves and almost stole a win vs. Canada at the Olympics. Kid's only 21, he could be a good one.

Logan · 04-22-2014, 10:46 PM

That goal must have felt so good for Carcillo.

Mizzou B-ball fan · 04-23-2014, 12:16 AM

Goal! Way to go, Sharks!!!!!!!

The Jackal · 04-23-2014, 10:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Logan

That goal must have felt so good for Carcillo.

I want to punchisize his face

Logan · 04-23-2014, 10:57 AM

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I want to punchisize his face

As did I'm sure many of the fans who were cheering when he went down in a heap after blocking a shot, or booing when he went down after catching a blind shoulder to the chin as if he was faking.

Dr. Sak · 04-23-2014, 11:23 AM

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As did I'm sure many of the fans who were cheering when he went down in a heap after blocking a shot, or booing when he went down after catching a blind shoulder to the chin as if he was faking.

In their defense it's kind of hard to tell when the Rangers are faking or not...you can get upset at that comment, but they have gotten 2 embellishment penalites so far this series. Not to mention when Hartnell bumped the guy from behind (and I am not excusing him for this action), but the Ranger player did play it up a bit.

That is NOT the reason the Flyers are losing the series. Rangers are doing a great job blocking shots and keeping the Flyers to the outside.

Edit; Carcillo is a guy you tolerate when he is on your team but dislike him when he isn't on your team.

Logan · 04-23-2014, 11:25 AM

Since we were having the discussion a couple days ago re: Cooke and the NHL's methods of discipline, here's a good one to bring up. This went unpenalized and will in all likelihood have nothing come of it from the NHL. If there was an injury, or if the recipient wasn't Carcillo, I'd wager my life savings that would not be the case.

Logan · 04-23-2014, 11:29 AM

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In their defense it's kind of hard to tell when the Rangers are faking or not...you can get upset at that comment, but they have gotten 2 embellishment penalites so far this series. Not to mention when Hartnell bumped the guy from behind (and I am not excusing him for this action), but the Ranger player did play it up a bit.

That is NOT the reason the Flyers are losing the series. Rangers are doing a great job blocking shots and keeping the Flyers to the outside.

Oh of course, and I don't expect the fans in the arena to see what takes replays to see clearly. But I think that played a part in Carcillo's hands up/"fuck off" reaction to the goal.

The embellishment call on Dorsett (?) was 100% right, but I think the one on Zuccarello was wrong. He's a peanut who was getting checked and had a stick between his legs!

Logan · 04-23-2014, 11:31 AM

And FTR, I don't think it was the worst head shot we've seen in any way, and I don't think Read necessarily intended to put his shoulder into Carcillo's chin. But that's the type of stuff that could end up happening when you're trying to give a chip shot to another guy away from the play.

Dr. Sak · 04-23-2014, 11:35 AM

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Oh of course, and I don't expect the fans in the arena to see what takes replays to see clearly. But I think that played a part in Carcillo's hands up/"fuck off" reaction to the goal.

The embellishment call on Dorsett (?) was 100% right, but I think the one on Zuccarello was wrong. He's a peanut who was getting checked and had a stick between his legs!

Carcillo didn't exactly leave on the best of terms. He was very upset being a healthy scratch in the 2010 Finals. He's a guy that can be good for a game or two, then the idiot comes out in him. If you can bottle the idiot up he can be an asset. Kind of like Rinaldo for the Flyers.

I don't blame Carcillo for taunting the fans but the flipping off is just what you get. Just like when Jagr played for the Flyers, went to Pittsburgh and scored the goal. He saluted some lady in the stands and there's a picture of her flipping him off. Just the mass of idiots in the stands everywhere.

Dr. Sak · 04-23-2014, 11:38 AM

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And FTR, I don't think it was the worst head shot we've seen in any way, and I don't think Read necessarily intended to put his shoulder into Carcillo's chin. But that's the type of stuff that could end up happening when you're trying to give a chip shot to another guy away from the play.

I know this isn't right but it happens in every sport with instances like this...you have a guy who is a trouble maker (for lack of a better term). Then someone picks on him or does something illegal...well since the guy is sort of an ass...it gets overlooked more than if it would have happened to someone else just because of who he is.

For instance if it happened to St. Louis...we may be talking fine or even suspension.

Logan · 04-23-2014, 11:50 AM

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I don't blame Carcillo for taunting the fans but the flipping off is just what you get.

I don't think less of the fan for flipping him off. I think less of him for wearing his hat tilted sideways

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Logan · 04-23-2014, 01:12 PM

And officially nothing for Read. Find me the difference between that hit and Rupp on Oshie which got 4 games (besides the obvious).

Blackadar · 04-23-2014, 01:14 PM

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Charra may whip my ass, but you know what, I wouldn't back down and run like some of the other players do.

Charra would wipe his ass with you.

MacroGuru · 04-23-2014, 01:59 PM

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Charra would wipe his ass with you.

I perfectly understand that, but to watch the amount of players that start shit with him, then run away because he is as big as he is just infuriates the hell out of me.

Take the beating, show him you aren't scared and it may help shit, hell who knows you may land a blow or two and make him rethink of starting shit with you...but I for one would know after I got in a punch, I would be his double ply charmin...

DaddyTorgo · 04-23-2014, 02:01 PM

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I fucking hate Boston right now, actually a few of their players...with the weasel Marchand being #1 and Charra as #2. I would fucking go after both of them anytime I could if I was on the ice. Charra may whip my ass, but you know what, I wouldn't back down and run like some of the other players do.

You seem to be a bit over-emotional about this.

Dr. Sak · 04-23-2014, 02:33 PM

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You seem to be a bit over-emotional about this.

Pot meet Kettle?

DaddyTorgo · 04-23-2014, 02:46 PM

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Pot meet Kettle?

Honolulu_Blue · 04-23-2014, 03:54 PM

The one upside if the Wings go out quickly in the playoffs will be the end of their "Octopi Hockeytown" playoff slogan thing. It's the worst.

Chief Rum · 04-23-2014, 05:03 PM

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I believe bsak is suggesting you at times get abit emotional about your sports team yourself, so somewhat ironic to point it out in others.

Dr. Sak · 04-23-2014, 06:28 PM

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I believe bsak is suggesting you at times get abit emotional about your sports team yourself, so somewhat ironic to point it out in others.

Ding ding ding

The Jackal · 04-23-2014, 06:36 PM

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And FTR, I don't think it was the worst head shot we've seen in any way, and I don't think Read necessarily intended to put his shoulder into Carcillo's chin. But that's the type of stuff that could end up happening when you're trying to give a chip shot to another guy away from the play.

Frankly I was surprised Read wasn't penalized on that play.

And the penalty that Carcillo took before he scored really wasn't a penalty.

I can be perfectly calm and rational, doesn't make me want to punch him any less at the moment - that's because he's doing his job properly. If he was failing at it I'd just be laughing at him.

DaddyTorgo · 04-23-2014, 06:37 PM

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Ding ding ding

Emotional AT my team, not at hating players on other teams.

Dr. Sak · 04-23-2014, 06:44 PM

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Emotional AT my team, not at hating players on other teams.

So you didn't go on a hate tirade on James Neal earlier this season?

BishopMVP · 04-23-2014, 09:03 PM

Fleury played really well tonight... Except for the game-tying goal with 20 seconds left and the knucklepuck OT game winner.

Suburban Rhythm · 04-23-2014, 09:36 PM

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Fleury played really well tonight... Except for the game-tying goal with 20 seconds left and the knucklepuck OT game winner.

Sucks for him, because for the most part he's put the last 2 horrible playoffs behind him this series. He's been left out to dry a ton.

And I'll still argue that's the right play...settle the puck, move to the D coming back, off the glass, out of the zone. Done. Right play...horrible execution.

And sucks for him because he bailed the team out most of the 2nd and 3rd. Malkin has been good, not great, but at least somewhat threatening. Crosby has been MIA. Nature of the position, but when MAF makes a mis-step, nobody can bail him out.

BishopMVP · 04-23-2014, 10:15 PM

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Sucks for him, because for the most part he's put the last 2 horrible playoffs behind him this series. He's been left out to dry a ton.

And I'll still argue that's the right play...settle the puck, move to the D coming back, off the glass, out of the zone. Done. Right play...horrible execution.

I think going out to play the puck was the right initial play, but once it took that funny bounce just get back in the net.

stevew · 04-23-2014, 10:16 PM

I purposefully have stayed off Facebook til later when hopefully some awesome pens rants will pccur

MizzouRah · 04-24-2014, 08:22 AM

We go ahead 3-2 and then WHAT THE F!@@#%$

EagleFan · 04-24-2014, 11:56 AM

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And officially nothing for Read. Find me the difference between that hit and Rupp on Oshie which got 4 games (besides the obvious).

The obvious being that one was a targeted shot to the head and the other was a chip in passing that wasn't initial point of contact to the head?

Logan · 04-24-2014, 12:11 PM

Haha ok. What part of Carcillo's body did he hit first? The chin is part of the head last time I checked.

Dr. Sak · 04-24-2014, 12:24 PM

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Haha ok. What part of Carcillo's body did he hit first? The chin is part of the head last time I checked.

I don't want to get into an arguement with you cause we are both pretty passionate about our teams. I looked at the video...yes Read hits him on the chin, however Read never did seek him out. His direct skate path doesn't change, and one could argue that he was bracing for a hit by Carcillo (and one could argue that he just shot his arm out to hit him).

That's just my 2 cents, but I can also appreciate your view on this matter.

Logan · 04-24-2014, 12:32 PM

I'm with you. Like I said in my original post, I don't think he was trying to injure Carcillo. I think he was trying to chip him and it caught him on the chin. I think the NHL should penalize that, whether it was intended or not, because that's exactly what could happen when you do things like that.

What I will argue like hell is that the contact point was the chin, which you acknowledge, so no argument here good buddy

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EagleFan · 04-24-2014, 01:00 PM

There was nothing to be penalized for there. It was two skaters colliding, no attempt to hit. You're fooling yourself if you are trying to compare incidental contact with targeted.

Logan · 04-24-2014, 01:27 PM

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There was nothing to be penalized for there. It was two skaters colliding, no attempt to hit. You're fooling yourself if you are trying to compare incidental contact with targeted.

Props to you for moving off "initial contact point wasn't the head" so quickly.

The Jackal · 04-24-2014, 01:56 PM

Did we talk about Cooke getting 7 games yet? I'm good with it.

Suburban Rhythm · 04-24-2014, 02:08 PM

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Did we talk about Cooke getting 7 games yet? I'm good with it.

I'm good with it in he takes him out of this series. Previous pages discussed how it should, but never will, work. Cooke got what amounted to 17 in 2011. That's down to 7 now. Not sure how that's sending a message.

Logan · 04-24-2014, 02:19 PM

I know the standard is one playoff game = two regular season games. Seems like they should apply that literally in the case of a team getting knocked out. If they lose the next two, have him sit 10 next year.

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Dutch "Dutch" Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Tampa, FL	Kristers Gudlevskis is his name, fwiw. All in all, it was a fun season of Lightning Hockey. Last edited by Dutch : 04-22-2014 at 08:46 PM.

04-22-2014, 09:30 PM	#110
MacroGuru Coordinator Join Date: May 2003 Location: Utah	Detroit didn't look like they wanted to play tonight until the 3rd period. I fucking hate Boston right now, actually a few of their players...with the weasel Marchand being #1 and Charra as #2. I would fucking go after both of them anytime I could if I was on the ice. Charra may whip my ass, but you know what, I wouldn't back down and run like some of the other players do. __________________ "forgetting what is in the past, I strive for the future"

04-23-2014, 03:54 PM	#131
Honolulu_Blue Hockey Boy Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Royal Oak, MI	The one upside if the Wings go out quickly in the playoffs will be the end of their "Octopi Hockeytown" playoff slogan thing. It's the worst. __________________ *Steve Yzerman*: 1,755 points in 1,514 regular season games. 185 points in 196 postseason games. A First-Team All-Star, Conn Smythe Trophy winner, Selke Trophy winner, Masterton Trophy winner, member of the Hockey Hall of Fame, Olympic gold medallist, and a three-time Stanley Cup Champion. Longest serving captain of one team in the history of the NHL (19 seasons).

04-24-2014, 01:00 PM	#146
EagleFan Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Mays Landing, NJ USA	There was nothing to be penalized for there. It was two skaters colliding, no attempt to hit. You're fooling yourself if you are trying to compare incidental contact with targeted. __________________ The EagleFan YouTube Channel - Reactions Soarin' & Scratchin' YouTube Channel - We react to music, videos, TV, we talk, we are planning some field trips Soarin' & Soothin' - Meditation, Relaxation, and Sleep Aid; mental health is important

04-22-2014, 01:03 PM	#101
The Jackal Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: New Hampshire	I bet Cooke will get 5-6 games. To ensure he doesn't play again vs the Avs and carry over into the next round if the Wild manage to come back.

04-22-2014, 07:24 PM	#102
Dr. Sak Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Stuck in Yinzerville, PA	Craig Berube waited over a decade to punch Jeremy Roenick in the face - Broad Street Hockey

04-22-2014, 07:27 PM	#103
DaddyTorgo Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Massachusetts	Hell of a first period by the B's. 2-0 lead. Shut down the Red Wings offensively (I just missed the stat on how many shots they had, but there was at least a 8-9 minute stretch where they had none). Forcing mistakes and capitalizing.

04-22-2014, 07:35 PM	#104
DaddyTorgo Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Massachusetts	dola 4 shots for DET in 1st period

04-22-2014, 08:24 PM	#106
Dutch "Dutch" Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Tampa, FL	Lightning 3rd string goalie (whats-his-name) is gonna get the keys to the city if he keeps this up.

04-22-2014, 08:40 PM	#107
Dutch "Dutch" Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Tampa, FL	And the legend will be amazing if they survive this power-play with 2 minutes left in the 3rd period.

04-22-2014, 08:41 PM	#108
Dutch "Dutch" Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Tampa, FL	He didn't survive it...oh well, good game by what's-his-name anyway.

04-22-2014, 09:32 PM	#111
TroyF Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000	Just had to laugh at this AP story of the Red Wings/Bruins game. DETROIT -- Tuukka Rask finished with a 23-save shutout to give the Boston Bruins a 3-0 win over the Detroit Red Wings on Tuesday night for a 2-1 playoff series lead. Dougie Hamilton and Jordan Caron scored in the first period, and Patrice Bergeron added an empty-net goal late in the game. The Presidents' Trophy-winning Bruins are ahead for the first time in the opening-round series. And, it seems like a commanding lead the way Boston has played the past two games. Detroit has to win Game 4 on Thursday night to avoid facing elimination when the series shifts back to Boston. Jimmy Howard made 31 saves for the Red Wings, who needed him to make what appeared to be a routine stop midway through the first period on the first goal. He couldn't. Poor Jimmy. He couldn't.

04-22-2014, 09:49 PM	#112
The Jackal Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: New Hampshire	Bleh. I didn't expect the Flyers to mostly own and lose in that fashion. Props to the Rangers for blocking so many shots.

04-22-2014, 10:46 PM	#114
Logan Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: NYC	That goal must have felt so good for Carcillo.

04-23-2014, 12:16 AM	#115
Mizzou B-ball fan General Manager Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Kansas City, MO	Goal! Way to go, Sharks!!!!!!!

04-23-2014, 11:25 AM	#119
Logan Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: NYC	Since we were having the discussion a couple days ago re: Cooke and the NHL's methods of discipline, here's a good one to bring up. This went unpenalized and will in all likelihood have nothing come of it from the NHL. If there was an injury, or if the recipient wasn't Carcillo, I'd wager my life savings that would not be the case.

04-23-2014, 11:31 AM	#121
Logan Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: NYC	And FTR, I don't think it was the worst head shot we've seen in any way, and I don't think Read necessarily intended to put his shoulder into Carcillo's chin. But that's the type of stuff that could end up happening when you're trying to give a chip shot to another guy away from the play.

04-23-2014, 01:12 PM	#125
Logan Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: NYC	And officially nothing for Read. Find me the difference between that hit and Rupp on Oshie which got 4 games (besides the obvious).

04-23-2014, 09:03 PM	#137
BishopMVP Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Concord, MA/UMass	Fleury played really well tonight... Except for the game-tying goal with 20 seconds left and the knucklepuck OT game winner.

04-23-2014, 10:16 PM	#140
stevew Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: the yo'	I purposefully have stayed off Facebook til later when hopefully some awesome pens rants will pccur

04-24-2014, 08:22 AM	#141
MizzouRah Hall Of Famer Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Troy, Mo	We go ahead 3-2 and then WHAT THE F!@@#%$

04-24-2014, 12:11 PM	#143
Logan Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: NYC	Haha ok. What part of Carcillo's body did he hit first? The chin is part of the head last time I checked.

04-24-2014, 12:32 PM	#145
Logan Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: NYC	I'm with you. Like I said in my original post, I don't think he was trying to injure Carcillo. I think he was trying to chip him and it caught him on the chin. I think the NHL should penalize that, whether it was intended or not, because that's exactly what could happen when you do things like that. What I will argue like hell is that the contact point was the chin, which you acknowledge, so no argument here good buddy .

04-24-2014, 01:56 PM	#148
The Jackal Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: New Hampshire	Did we talk about Cooke getting 7 games yet? I'm good with it.

04-24-2014, 02:19 PM	#150
Logan Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: NYC	I know the standard is one playoff game = two regular season games. Seems like they should apply that literally in the case of a team getting knocked out. If they lose the next two, have him sit 10 next year.

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