The 2016 NFL Draft

[stevew]

Jackson was supposedly the steelers guy. I also hate that we just picked with 9 minutes left on the clock.

[stevew]

Jeez, and the Broncos just traded up with the Seahawks

[stevew]

Geez....the Seahawks just got a 3rd for dropping back a few slots.

[bhlloy]

Originally Posted by stevew

This Prius commercial with the Wire dockworkers is getting super old

These NFL shop ones on NFL network are utterly fucking stupid as well.

[stevew]

I'm fucking sick of the Steelers "braintrust". I need a new team.

[Dutch]

Originally Posted by bhlloy

Potentially a brilliant pick. I think Treadwell is going to be a star.

I think the Vikings got a steal.

[JonInMiddleGA]

Not bad

Zach MyersVerified account ‏@ZMyersOfficial 24m24 minutes ago
Starting to think Tunsil's Password was "Password"

[MrBug708]

Wow. Clark went ahead of Jack

[Arles]

Something must be seriously wrong with Jack's knee. ILB is the biggest need on GB and we passed on Jack.

What's the story on Clark? I remember him killing Arizona but don't know much else about him.

[MrBug708]

Not a big stats guy and didn't test off the charts but a good player. 3 year starter and all state wrestler in high school

[stevew]

Cards probably just got the steal of the draft.

[MizzouRah]

Rams are really and I mean really going to have so many crappy years ahead.. maybe part of me is happy, but I still have some interest in what they do.

WTF were they thinking? If trading all those picks for Goff was to get the city excited and more season tickets sold, so be it. I just don't get it.

I still think Wentz will be better.

The thing is.. Goff will be running for his life and they have SO many holes in this team!

[MizzouRah]

Originally Posted by bhlloy

Potentially a brilliant pick. I think Treadwell is going to be a star.

I do too, what a steal!

[bhlloy]

Strange pick by the Panthers. You ditch Norman ostensibly so you can sign all your DL. You then turn around with a couple of decent corners on the board still and pick... another DL

I think the kids going to be good, and it's a decent pick, but it goes even further to show me they didn't really think the Norman thing through. This was a team that nearly won the SB, and you are letting an all pro go and drafting a guy at a position of strength who probably isn't going to be a huge contributor right away

[MrBug708]

Damn Myles.

Just saw a tweet that said he gets paid 5 million in insurance money if he falls out of the first

[Thomkal]

Originally Posted by stevew

I'm fucking sick of the Steelers "braintrust". I need a new team.

Come to the desert

[Thomkal]

Originally Posted by stevew

Cards probably just got the steal of the draft.

Well a couple years ago, I wasn't too happy with the Honey Badger pick, but they made it work. Don't know much about this guy, but he seems to be in a similar situation as him. Seemed really thrilled to be going to Arizona too.

[Thomkal]

Originally Posted by bhlloy

Strange pick by the Panthers. You ditch Norman ostensibly so you can sign all your DL. You then turn around with a couple of decent corners on the board still and pick... another DL

I think the kids going to be good, and it's a decent pick, but it goes even further to show me they didn't really think the Norman thing through. This was a team that nearly won the SB, and you are letting an all pro go and drafting a guy at a position of strength who probably isn't going to be a huge contributor right away

Yeah they basically have nobody at the CB position with Josh gone, and one of them is hurt as well. So surprised they didn't go CB here.

[bhlloy]

Originally Posted by MrBug708

Damn Myles.

Just saw a tweet that said he gets paid 5 million in insurance money if he falls out of the first

That hasn't gone very well for some players in the past, so I hope he's actually able to collect it

[jbergey22]

Very sure Zimmer had a hard time passing on Jack. His type of player. I actually thought Jack would be the pick even though it wasnt really a need due to Zimmers love of fast quick LBs. Like the Treadwell pick but dont love it. I think his ceiling is that of a good NFL WR and not the All Pro type. A much better fit than Fuller would have been however. Anyone remember Hayward-bey or Troy Williamson?

[MrBug708]

Originally Posted by bhlloy

That hasn't gone very well for some players in the past, so I hope he's actually able to collect it

Myles Jack Will Be Just Fine

[Suicane75]

I'd be elated if I were a Cardinals fan. Love the value of the pick.

[jbergey22]

Originally Posted by MrBug708

Myles Jack Will Be Just Fine

Yeah, I think a playoff team in need of that position should have taken him. Worth the gamble IMO. That kind of talent isnt usually something easily accumulated late in the first round.

[Abe Sargent]

I'd love to see the Jags walk away with Jack in teh 2nd round, That'd be odd. Get both Jack and Ramsey without trading up?

[SteveMax58]

Originally Posted by sabotai

It seems odd to me. The Giants have always preached the "best player available" draft strategy. Maybe they did try to trade down and simply didn't get a good enough deal. Apple (based solely on all of the "experts" because I don't pay attention to college much) seems like a reach at #10.

I wonder if they see something in Apple that makes them think he can be moved to FS and be great at it...

Edit: Just read some of the scouting reports on Apple, and everyone praises his ability to cover receivers in man coverage. So I guess they think he will be a better fit for their scheme than VH3.

Yeah I was thinking the same about FS but most comparisons I've seen are to Richard Sherman. We could certainly use that.

Great pick if the comparisons are close. Just makes me wonder why nobody was really projecting him above Hargreaves.

Wouldn't mind seeing us grab Ragland, Jarron Reed or AShawn in the 2nd rd.

[Butter]

Originally Posted by JPhillips

Thank goodness someone took Fuller before the Bengals.

Agreed, but sad that Doctson and Treadwell were gone before their pick. I think they made the best of a bad situation, though I still would prefer Mackensie Alexander to Jackson. Jackson seems like a player though.

[SteveMax58]

Originally Posted by Dutch

I think the Vikings got a steal.

Me too. I think they basically got Hines Ward.

[Logan]

Originally Posted by JonInMiddleGA

It is not a happy war room here in my basement at the moment.

My son has realized the very real prospect (which I've been telling him for two years) of spending virtually his entire college experience at a school that's under heavy probation.

Is he going to a directional school? Otherwise I think he'll be fine.

[MacroGuru]

Looking at Jack...If he does or doesn't have surgery, wherever he lands, that team will have an extremely talented LB with a very big chip on his shoulder.

I would love to see him in Buffalo.

[Logan]

Second round picks are only on 4 year contracts right? Where 1st round gets the fifth year option? At this point Jack may as well just have the surgery, sit a year, and focus on cashing in on his next deal in 3 years.

[albionmoonlight]

If the Saints get Alexander, Whitehair, or Dodd with their Rd 2 pick, I will consider the draft off to an amazing start for them.

[JonInMiddleGA]

Originally Posted by Logan

Is he going to a directional school? Otherwise I think he'll be fine.

By the time everything I believe that has occurred at Ole Miss comes out, I expect roughly 3-4 years of hardcore probation.

Point blank: I think it's the dirtiest program in America for the past several years, and I think Freeze is the dirtiest coach we've seen in college football in a long time. And that's what I've been saying for at least a couple of years now.

[Arles]

Originally Posted by MrBug708

Myles Jack Will Be Just Fine

What's interesting is that the first round only has 31 picks because of the NE penalty. What happens if someone trades up to pick 1 in the 2nd round to get Jack. Then he's the 32nd pick - which would have been a first round pick the last few seasons

[Logan]

Originally Posted by JonInMiddleGA

By the time everything I believe that has occurred at Ole Miss comes out, I expect roughly 3-4 years of hardcore probation.

Point blank: I think it's the dirtiest program in America for the past several years, and I think Freeze is the dirtiest coach we've seen in college football in a long time. And that's what I've been saying for at least a couple of years now.

I don't disagree with the thought, I just don't see it happening. Even with a bunch of leaked texts and an admission, they'll still need Tunsil to cooperate despite having absolutely no reason to.

[Logan]

Originally Posted by Arles

What's interesting is that the first round only has 31 picks because of the NE penalty. What happens if someone trades up to pick 1 in the 2nd round to get Jack. Then he's the 32nd pick - which would have been a first round pick the last few seasons

I saw more detail on this earlier from Rovell. Supposedly, it's not a flat $5MM payout for not going in the first round.

Former UCLA linebacker Myles Jack is covered by a $5 million loss-of-value policy. When his mother took it out two years ago, Jack became the first sophomore college football player ever to secure such a policy.

A source with knowledge of the policy says that Jack will start to collect if he falls to the 45th pick in the draft and will get about $60,000 per pick after that. That means Jack will collect north of $1 million if he slips into the third round, but he would have to fall into the early sixth round to collect the entire policy.

Info on Jaylon Smith's policy:

As previously reported, former Notre Dame linebacker Jaylon Smith took out an insurance policy in the fall that would pay up to $5 million if he got hurt and slipped in the draft. Smith then seriously injured his knee in the Fiesta Bowl.

A source with knowledge of the policy said that Smith will receive a tax-free $700,000 if he becomes the top pick in the second round. If he is selected later than that, he'll collect an additional $100,000 for each spot he falls.

Former UCLA Bruins LB Myles Jack will collect on insurance policy if he falls to 45th pick

[JonInMiddleGA]

Originally Posted by Logan

I don't disagree with the thought, I just don't see it happening. Even with a bunch of leaked texts and an admission, they'll still need Tunsil to cooperate despite having absolutely no reason to.

I think Tunsil is merely the tip of the proverbial iceberg, and given some of the oh-so-reliable characters that I think are the real heavy violations, it's just a matter of time before beans get spilled.

[Arles]

Per Logan's post. Well, it makes sense for both Jack and Smith to slip until the 6th round. They'd get a shorter contract and get much more money ($5 mil) than at any pick from rounds 2-5. I wonder what their agents are doing behind the scenes. This might be the first situation where a player hopes to get selected in the 5-7 round and not rounds 2-4.

[albionmoonlight]

Originally Posted by Arles

Per Logan's post. Well, it makes sense for both Jack and Smith to slip until the 6th round. They'd get a shorter contract and get much more money ($5 mil) than at any pick from rounds 2-5. I wonder what their agents are doing behind the scenes. This might be the first situation where a player hopes to get selected in the 5-7 round and not rounds 2-4.

But if their agents were telling teams not to draft them, wouldn't it risk voiding the insurance contract?

[cartman]

Originally Posted by albionmoonlight

But if their agents were telling teams not to draft them, wouldn't it risk voiding the insurance contract?

pretty sure the agents have some hackers on standby with pics of them in the schoolbook depository 6th floor window or something like that to help with the free fall.

[Arles]

Jack's comments on potentially needing microfracture surgery make a lot more sense now.

[MrBug708]

Originally Posted by Arles

Jack's comments on potentially needing microfracture surgery make a lot more sense now.

His candor is still baffling. It's not like he can't play this season. He's good to go he just will need it down the line

[albionmoonlight]

Originally Posted by MrBug708

His candor is still baffling. It's not like he can't play this season. He's good to go he just will need it down the line

But

(1) He might actually want to slip in the draft because of his insurance policy, and

(2) he might be good to go this year, but he might still want to have the surgery early and try and have a full career after instead of a short career before.

[MrBug708]

His pay for a second round pick and insurance money is still less than mid first round pick which would have been the result yesterday. Unless this is Efo situation where he will be a 5th round pick

[bhlloy]

Sounds like the Steelers took a corner with a third/fourth round grade on him? Why not just take Jack and get the guy at some point in the second?

[bhlloy]

Originally Posted by MrBug708

His pay for a second round pick and insurance money is still less than mid first round pick which would have been the result yesterday

Plus if he slips that far as a direct result of him saying he needed the microfracture surgery, the insurance company is going to fight him every single step of the way for that money.

[stevew]

Originally Posted by bhlloy

Sounds like the Steelers took a corner with a third/fourth round grade on him? Why not just take Jack and get the guy at some point in the second?

Yeah, I'm still pretty nauseous about it.

[Edward64]

Nevermind

[Julio Riddols]

Originally Posted by stevew

Yeah, I'm still pretty nauseous about it.

I'm quite happy about it. Not sure why they passed on Alexander for Burns though.

[MrBug708]

Adam Schefter ‏@AdamSchefter 3m3 minutes ago
Dr. James Andrews, who examined Myles Jack in December, told the UCLA LB today that he does not need micro-fracture surgery.

[Logan]

Probably should have told him that yesterday.