Google Fiber Network thread.......

[Vince, Pt. II]

I'd love to get it here in San Jose, but I bet PG&E will screw it up somehow.

[albionmoonlight]

Originally Posted by Radii

hm Raleigh is listed but not my town which is about 20 miles from both downtown Raleigh and downtown Durham.

If you click on Raleigh-Durham, they list the following areas:
Carrborro Cary Chapel Hill Durham Garner Morrisville Raleigh

[albionmoonlight]

dola:

So, if it comes, we should be good.

[albionmoonlight]

double dola:

I see you are in Wake Forest. Still, based on what MBBF said, I find it hard to believe that they would do Raleigh and not extend it to WF.

[Mizzou B-ball fan]

Originally Posted by albionmoonlight

double dola:

I see you are in Wake Forest. Still, based on what MBBF said, I find it hard to believe that they would do Raleigh and not extend it to WF.

I do know that they tried to focus on school districts and university areas first when they implemented. I would be shocked if they didn't hit all those major universities if they do decide to do the Raleigh-Durham area. They were getting great word-of-mouth by doing that here in KC.

[Radii]

Wake Forest University isn't in Wake Forest, sadly. The old Wake Forest Campus (the school moved in the 1950s) is now a southern baptist seminary school. Ah well, we shall see what happens if it comes here!

[kcchief19]

To echo what MBBF, the Google game plan from KC is to cut deals with the most reception cities with the best incentives and most favorable regulations. In KC, the cut deals with the electric companies to get cheaper pole attachments, access to restricted spaces & joint trenches and dark fiber if available. I think they generally found the deals with the utility companies were not that valuable, so I don't think they will be as constrained by utility footprints.

Google announced they were coming to KC three years ago, and today only a fraction of households are connected. They should jump up pretty quickly since they are getting ready to light up a couple of huge areas. But they are still years from complete buildout. And some very key suburbs haven't signed on yet because they won't agree to Google's terms.

[Mizzou B-ball fan]

Sign up for Google Fiber is tomorrow! Excited to get this party started!!!!

[kcchief19]

Yep. Will be signing up here. Google contractors have been in our neighborhood the last couple of weeks running fiber underground. Kind of going slow. They haven't started down our street yet. But they haven't knocked out our gas, electricity, water or Internet yet, so I have that going for me.

[cartman]

The Longhorn Network is on Channel 230 for Google Fiber in Kansas City.

[Mizzou B-ball fan]

Originally Posted by cartman

The Longhorn Network is on Channel 230 for Google Fiber in Kansas City.

As odd as it sounds, that's actually good news. That means that the SEC Network being added is a near shoe-in since they already have a good relationship with ESPN. That's the only concern I really have about the channel lineup. I want to watch the Tigers. But the rumor is that it will happen.

[kcchief19]

Signed up just after the site went live this afternoon. Got an email that our "fiberhood" will qualify for service if 198 other customers in my fiberhood sign up. There are 500 homes in my neighborhood, plus our Google fiberhood includes half the adjoining subdivision and some large acreage sites. I'm guessing our fiberhood is about 800 homes, so they must want about 25% of a neighborhood to start hook ups.

Google indicated in the signup process their goal is to have all new connections done by the end of the year. They haven't made a deadline yet so I'm not holding my breath. We'll see. But the process is under way!

[Mizzou B-ball fan]

Woohoo!!!

[Blackadar]

Originally Posted by Radii

Wake Forest University isn't in Wake Forest, sadly. The old Wake Forest Campus (the school moved in the 1950s) is now a southern baptist seminary school. Ah well, we shall see what happens if it comes here!

Yep. RJ Reynolds tobacco bought the whole university and moved them two hours west to Winston Salem.

[cartman]

San Antonio is next up.

Google Fiber expansion moves fast, San Antonio approves construction | Ars Technica

[Ragone]

Kc chief.. Which fiber hood did you end up in.. I ended
Up in quail ridge park.. Which has a lot of open acreage with few
Homes.. Not real optimistic on qualifying my area..

[Mizzou B-ball fan]

Originally Posted by Ragone

Kc chief.. Which fiber hood did you end up in.. I ended
Up in quail ridge park.. Which has a lot of open acreage with few
Homes.. Not real optimistic on qualifying my area..

Qualifying is by percentage, somewhere between 5-25% of homes in your area.

Also, I did look up the initial run of fiberhoods. Roughly 91% of the first round of fiberhoods qualified for hookup. That's a pretty high percentage.

[albionmoonlight]

Originally Posted by Radii

hm Raleigh is listed but not my town which is about 20 miles from both downtown Raleigh and downtown Durham.

FYI. No idea how much of this is real vs. wishful thinking.

Wake Forest, NC to become Triangle's first gigabit town? RST Fiber thinks so. | Wake Forest Fiber

[Radii]

Originally Posted by albionmoonlight

FYI. No idea how much of this is real vs. wishful thinking.

Wake Forest, NC to become Triangle's first gigabit town? RST Fiber thinks so. | Wake Forest Fiber

That would be amazing, but yeah, sounds like its a bit early to be getting my hopes up.

[Mizzou B-ball fan]

Not surprising given that KC is Google Fiber's home base, but the SEC Network was just added to the lineup.

http://www.secdigitalnetwork.com/NEW...014-debut.aspx

[Mizzou B-ball fan]

Three houses down from me. Fiber conduit going in. Shit's getting real!

[Mizzou B-ball fan]

Construction in the neighborhood has really boosted enrollment in a big hurry. Our fiberhood was a bit slow on enrollments. Since they start installing fiber conduit in the neighborhood, our fiberhood is suddenly enrolling 6-10 houses a day (30 days left to get 30 more households).

There's going to be some houses that are going to feel really stupid when their neighbors start talking about the speeds they're getting in their home and they forgot or decided to not enroll.

[kcchief19]

A Google subcontractor nicked a gas line about 200 yards from our house on Monday. Not aware they evacuated anyone, but the fire department and gas company were on the scene for about 12 hours fixing it. Google hitting utility lines has been pretty commonplace last year or so.

Fiber installation should be coming down my street the next few days. They are basically digging in the right away every two houses to pull cable through. Our "fiberhood" already hit its goal. Google required 200 signups in my area, and it looks like there are about 800 homes in that area. They still have a month for signups more.

[kcchief19]

Originally Posted by Mizzou B-ball fan

Construction in the neighborhood has really boosted enrollment in a big hurry. Our fiberhood was a bit slow on enrollments. Since they start installing fiber conduit in the neighborhood, our fiberhood is suddenly enrolling 6-10 houses a day (30 days left to get 30 more households).

There's going to be some houses that are going to feel really stupid when their neighbors start talking about the speeds they're getting in their home and they forgot or decided to not enroll.

The funny thing is that even people who don't signup for fiber should benefit. If you're not competing with your neighbors for bandwidth, it should speed things up considerably. My speeds basically get throttled about 4 pm when kids start coming home from school and people get home from work.

[Mizzou B-ball fan]

Sounds like Time Warner and AT&T are throwing everything but the kitchen sink at customers in Google fiberhoods in our area. Offering unthrottled internet and movie channels free up to a year if you sign a long term agreement. Yeah, uhhhhh, no.

[Ragone]

hmm that looks like the Montclair neighborhood mizzou? Literally the day we qualified as a fiberhood.. they had dropped off some spools.. the next day they beginning laying the cable..

Funny story, some old man at the very beginning of the neighborhood tried to keep them from laying cable by sitting in his driveway with a shotgun. Guess police had to come and explain to him the whole first 5 feet of your property is city owned.. Pretty sure he got hauled off as well.

[Ragone]

I also upgraded my package to include their tv plan recently.. my directv agreement ends in july.. my time warner internet has been contract free for over 2 years now.. can't wait

[gstelmack]

Winston-Salem up next for AT&T Gigabit, with my area (Cary) on the list for the future. So we have AT&T and Google both working to bring Gigabit to Cary, wonder what Time Warner's response is going to be?

[sterlingice]

Originally Posted by Ragone

Funny story, some old man at the very beginning of the neighborhood tried to keep them from laying cable by sitting in his driveway with a shotgun. Guess police had to come and explain to him the whole first 5 feet of your property is city owned.. Pretty sure he got hauled off as well.

Awesome

"Utility easements are a socialist invention set on destroying 'murica!"

SI

[kcchief19]

Originally Posted by gstelmack

Winston-Salem up next for AT&T Gigabit, with my area (Cary) on the list for the future. So we have AT&T and Google both working to bring Gigabit to Cary, wonder what Time Warner's response is going to be?

It's a good question. TWC has been standing pat with the "no one needs fiber" argument then grudgingly rolling out 100-200 mbps service.

Until the Comcast acquisition is settled, I don't think they are going to do anything dramatic. If the merger goes through, I'm not sure they will do anything other than what they are doing in KC and Texas, which is to push more contracts, bundles and deals. Comcast isn't going to worry about their image in Charlotte as much as TWC does.

If the merger doesn't go through for some reason, I think there's a chance TWC draws a line in the sand in North Carolina and decides to compete. But it will be a complete reversal of the stated company line that no one needs that much bandwidth.

[cartman]

Originally Posted by kcchief19

It's a good question. TWC has been standing pat with the "no one needs fiber" argument then grudgingly rolling out 100-200 mbps service.

Until the Comcast acquisition is settled, I don't think they are going to do anything dramatic. If the merger goes through, I'm not sure they will do anything other than what they are doing in KC and Texas, which is to push more contracts, bundles and deals. Comcast isn't going to worry about their image in Charlotte as much as TWC does.

If the merger doesn't go through for some reason, I think there's a chance TWC draws a line in the sand in North Carolina and decides to compete. But it will be a complete reversal of the stated company line that no one needs that much bandwidth.

I think the guys with a lot of cable infrastructure in place are going to try and make a go of DOCSIS 3.1 (up to 10Gb/s down, 1Gb/s up) before making any big plans for implementing a fiber infrastructure.

[kcchief19]

Originally Posted by cartman

I think the guys with a lot of cable infrastructure in place are going to try and make a go of DOCSIS 3.1 (up to 10Gb/s down, 1Gb/s up) before making any big plans for implementing a fiber infrastructure.

Theoretically. But DOCSIS 3.0 has gigabit download speeds, and the cable companies have generally only built it out to the 100-200 mbps capacity because they don't want to and can't necessarily provide the required downstream channels. It's probably five years before 3.1 is mainstream, and by that time it may even be further behind fiber.

I think it's what they plan to do, but the question is whether they can hold out that long.

[gstelmack]

We don't even have 100 Mb/s TWC here, just 50 as the max. To be fair to TWC, though, I haven't found it worth the 30% price increase ($78 - $98) to go to 50. Gigabit, though, could be fun.

[Mizzou B-ball fan]

kcchief19 wins. 6 month delay.

Hello,

Thanks for signing up for Google Fiber. We’re thrilled that so many people are excited about Google Fiber and we know you’re waiting to get connected. Our goal is to bring you Fiber by the summer of 2015. We’re still working on building our network in your area and the upcoming winter weather could cause some delays. We’ll keep you updated as we have additional information about your installation.

As you’ve probably heard, Google Fiber isn’t your typical Internet installation and getting it isn’t either. Since we can’t bring you Fiber through your existing cable or phone lines, we’re busy digging trenches, climbing poles and running thousands of miles of brand new fiber optic cables.

In the next several weeks, you may continue to see our trucks and crews in your area even though we’re not quite ready to install Fiber in your home. Don’t worry, our team will still reach out to you via email or with a phone call as soon as we’re ready to set up your in-home installation appointment. We know how inconvenient it can be without the Internet, so we suggest that you have a way to access the web until Fiber is up and running in your home.

We appreciate your patience and if you have additional questions, please feel free to call us at 866-777-7550. You can also email or chat with us by visiting fiber.google.com/support

The Google Fiber team

[Mizzou B-ball fan]

NY TImes article discusses internet speeds in the U.S.

The New York Times

[Desnudo]

What's up with Mexico city?

[JPhillips]

Oh, well. If internet were any cheaper the job creators would leave the country.

American exceptionalism ftw!

[sterlingice]

Here's the money line

Originally Posted by article

In Chattanooga, Lafayette and Bristol, it comes through publicly owned networks.

Yes, kids, companies can't even compete with "incompetent, bureaucratic government" when they can just buy into monopolies

SI

[nol]

Originally Posted by Desnudo

What's up with Mexico city?

Even more of a monopoly. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carlos_Slim

[stevew]

Bristol VA has one of the most progressive city governments I've ever seen. In like 20 years it went from an afterthought to having a ton of retail options.

[kcchief19]

Google Fiber readies 1-Gig offering for Kansas City businesses - FierceTelecom

Google is now rolling out its 1 Gig fiber services to businesses in Kansas City ... and the price is a game changer: $100 per month.

That's a dramatic price compared to comparable service from the other major ISPs in the area. A Gigabit service would normally cost at least $1,000 per month or more plus construction, which can easily be $5-10,000 or more.

What's unclear is who can get it. Google says it's for "small businesses." That tells me if you're a company with a 1,000 employees or a high-tech bandwidth hog, you may not qualify or there may be another service for you. We also don't know about reliability or redundancy. For example, I know a guy who runs his own web servers and he has TWC provide two separate feeds from two different nodes so that if one node goes down they still have service. Will Google offer that? Unknown.

[Mizzou B-ball fan]

Interesting read.

What France has taught me: Americans are suckers who have themselves to blame for crappy broadband | VentureBeat | Business | by Chris O'Brien

[Mizzou B-ball fan]

Originally Posted by kcchief19

Google Fiber readies 1-Gig offering for Kansas City businesses - FierceTelecom

Google is now rolling out its 1 Gig fiber services to businesses in Kansas City ... and the price is a game changer: $100 per month.

That's a dramatic price compared to comparable service from the other major ISPs in the area. A Gigabit service would normally cost at least $1,000 per month or more plus construction, which can easily be $5-10,000 or more.

What's unclear is who can get it. Google says it's for "small businesses." That tells me if you're a company with a 1,000 employees or a high-tech bandwidth hog, you may not qualify or there may be another service for you. We also don't know about reliability or redundancy. For example, I know a guy who runs his own web servers and he has TWC provide two separate feeds from two different nodes so that if one node goes down they still have service. Will Google offer that? Unknown.

Here's one thing I know. It's like not worse than what we're currently getting.

FYI....my event coordinator who lives just south of 291 in our area just got Google Fiber yesterday. The installer apologized that the initial installation only yielded 650 Mbps download and 925 Mbps upload. They were going to come back today to optimize the connection.

I WANT those kinds of bad connections. She's only about a mile from my house, so it shouldn't be much longer!

[Mizzou B-ball fan]

Oooooooooo!!!!! Got the connection to the outside wall today!!!!! Installer said they'd be here in 3-4 weeks to install! Merry Xmas to me!!!!!

[kcchief19]

Nice! Hopefully we won't be far behind. They ran the line to my father-in-laws house in Gladstone on Friday. He forgot we signed him up, and started to get pissed because the subcontractor was digging in his yard, and he was still pissed about the damage they did when they buried the fiber in the right-of-way in his yard. But he didn't get any details about then it would be installed.

I've been seeing the Google Fiber install Transit Connect vans in our neck of the woods a lot lately, so I assumed their were getting close to starting installs. I'm actually pretty surprised they are getting to you before the end of the year. But Shoal Creek is special.

[Desnudo]

Originally Posted by Mizzou B-ball fan

Interesting read.

What France has taught me: Americans are suckers who have themselves to blame for crappy broadband | VentureBeat | Business | by Chris O'Brien

Mentioning France or French was identified as a top word used in popular Ted talks in a Ted talk on how to engineer a popular Ted talk.

[Mizzou B-ball fan]

Originally Posted by kcchief19

Nice! Hopefully we won't be far behind. They ran the line to my father-in-laws house in Gladstone on Friday. He forgot we signed him up, and started to get pissed because the subcontractor was digging in his yard, and he was still pissed about the damage they did when they buried the fiber in the right-of-way in his yard. But he didn't get any details about then it would be installed.

I've been seeing the Google Fiber install Transit Connect vans in our neck of the woods a lot lately, so I assumed their were getting close to starting installs. I'm actually pretty surprised they are getting to you before the end of the year. But Shoal Creek is special.

They drew the ire of my wife. They knocked and my wife didn't answer the door. All of the sudden, they're mounting a box on the side of our house. Wife went out and chewed them pretty good until she figured out who they were. Kind of odd that they don't notify you that they're mounting the box outside. You'd think that would be a good idea.

[Mizzou B-ball fan]

kcchief19 is getting Google Fiber right now. Should have some good feedback soon from our first FOFC Google Fiber customer.

[kcchief19]

Yeah, the subcontractors are kind of surly. The guys installing the drop at our house Sunday didn't tell us either, and made a huge racket. I went out after they left and saw they only installed the buried fiber in the yard. Same guys came back Monday and finished the drop. Now we just need the email we can schedule and installation!

The other odd thing is this was the first Google contractors I've seen in an unmarked vehicle. They usually have the company name on them and a magnet or sticker saying they are a Google contractor. I've heard a rumor they are using the company that blew up JJ's restaurant last year, so maybe it's them working under the radar.

I'm still betting you get it first, but they do have installers in the older section of our neighborhood. Would be a nice Christmas surprise!

[Ragone]

My installation is scheduled for December 30th.. Can't wait to drop that time Warner box off..