Poll: Andrew Luck - Page 3

Arles · 01-06-2011, 07:16 PM

Locker was always viewed as a project as a pure passer. He had a nice 3-4 game stretch in 09 where people were talking about him being #1 overall once he came out. But, once he went through the combines and workouts, he would have dropped pretty quick. He has an absolute cannon, great athletic ability and is pretty tough, but his decision making has always been questionable.

He was even more raw last year, so I think coming back was the right football move. He was likely a mid first rounder last year and that's what he'll be this year. The only knock would be with the labor agreement uncertainly, it's better financially to be a 10-15 pick in '10 than the same range in '11. Still, I think he would have been a disaster in the NFL had he come out last season.

Logan · 01-06-2011, 07:32 PM

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Originally Posted by JonInMiddleGA

Not really. Anything can happen, from injury to, well, whatever.

Like I said, I don't think it's a horrible call on his part because of the labor situation, but given the uncertainty with the coaching situation at Stanford, I wouldn't put the odds of him being #1 overall a year from now at much better than 50-50.

The Pac 10 guys would know better but I believe the thought is that Greg Roman would take over the spot and he had been running the offense under Harbaugh. The likelihood that Luck would feel any effect should be minimal, so I'd take that action. Unlike Locker, not only does everybody love Luck but he has the highest QB grade since John Elway. That's unlikely to go anywhere either.

Galaxy · 01-06-2011, 08:53 PM

I didn't realize that Luck has two more years of college eligibility. Smart guy in that he'll have three chances to decide what team, on a limited role, to play for.

bhlloy · 01-06-2011, 08:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Galaxy

I didn't realize that Luck has two more years of college eligibility. Smart guy in that he'll have three chances to decide what team, on a limited role, to play for.

Dangerous game to play mind. Career ending injuries aren't that common any more but they can still happen. Ask Chad Pennington how quickly a shoulder injury can turn you from an above average NFL QB to a pillow tossing backup.

Matthean · 01-06-2011, 09:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Galaxy

I didn't realize that Luck has two more years of college eligibility. Smart guy in that he'll have three chances to decide what team, on a limited role, to play for.

I believe I read he graduates in spring of 2012, so he's going next year.

Lathum · 01-06-2011, 09:47 PM

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Originally Posted by bhlloy

Dangerous game to play mind. Career ending injuries aren't that common any more but they can still happen. Ask Chad Pennington how quickly a shoulder injury can turn you from an above average NFL QB to a pillow tossing backup.

He'll have a monster insurance policy...

MrBug708 · 01-06-2011, 10:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Matthean

I believe I read he graduates in spring of 2012, so he's going next year.

Doesn't change that he's eligible for two more years, which was his point

Galaxy · 01-06-2011, 10:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Lathum

He'll have a monster insurance policy...

What I was thinking. If his family is wealthy, it shouldn't be a concern.

BishopMVP · 01-07-2011, 12:19 AM

FWIW, Jake Locker wasn't even given a 1st-round grade last year
by the NFL evaluators. That 1st overall pick was shit thrown against the board by Kiper and McShay, and the head of the NFL's committee called them out for the ignorance they displayed.

stevew · 01-07-2011, 12:23 AM

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Originally Posted by MrBug708

Doesn't change that he's eligible for two more years, which was his point

Even if he sucks next year, he could have a so-so year and graduate. And then his dad could sell his final year of eligibility to some desperate SEC school so he could do his masters work in recreational science.

Galaxy · 01-07-2011, 01:16 AM

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Originally Posted by stevew

Even if he sucks next year, he could have a so-so year and graduate. And then his dad could sell his final year of eligibility to some desperate SEC school so he could do his masters work in recreational science.

First off, he doesn't "need" the money. A wealthy family and big insurance policy will take care of him for life. Not to mention that a degree and connections from Stanford, along with his fame, will take him places regardless of his NFL career.

Secondly, Andrew Luck is not your typical college player. He seems to have a real interest in education. Graduated from his high school as Valedictorian, majors in architectural design (engineering) at Stanford. First team All Pac-10 Academic selection last year and make the second team this year. Why go to Stanford if your top goal in life is to get to the NFL?

wade moore · 01-07-2011, 06:40 AM

I've read all of the posts in this thread.

Personally, I see a lot of emotional reasons to stay at Stanford, but no LOGICAL ones.

From an objective, life-benefit situation I still see no LOGICAL reasons to stay at Stanford this year.

Ronnie Dobbs2 · 01-07-2011, 06:56 AM

Is it not logical to maximize your own happiness?

Logan · 01-07-2011, 07:19 AM

Of course it's not. Just like it's not logical to get your third year of college football under you to better prepare for the transition to the NFL. I don't remember the exact number, but there's a pretty strong correlation between number of college starts and success in the NFL.

Ksyrup · 01-07-2011, 07:19 AM

The most logical reason to leave is for money. But when money isn't that high on your priority list, then the logical decision isn't necessarily the right or best one, is it?

If we were having this discussion last year, he'd be a fool to leave so much money on the table, assuming the difference between Bradford's deal and the likely cap on a 1st round pick's initial contract is as big as some think it will be. I think he pretty much would have been forced to take the money at that point. But in the position he's in now? Eh. It's a shock, but I can understand it, given his family situation. And also, maybe he really, really has a bad feeling about going to Carolina and is rolling the dice that he gets picked by a better franchise next year. Who knows?

Lathum · 01-07-2011, 08:41 AM

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Originally Posted by wade moore

I've read all of the posts in this thread.

Personally, I see a lot of emotional reasons to stay at Stanford, but no LOGICAL ones.

From an objective, life-benefit situation I still see no LOGICAL reasons to stay at Stanford this year.

Depends on your definition of logic. You are thinking like a dude who makes an honest living. You, I , nor likely anyone else on this board know what goes on in his mind or what is will be like to eventually be in his financial position.

He knows at some point he is getting paid. Now I may be romanticizing this, but maybe he also knows his college years are something you never get back once "real life" begins. Perhaps he enjoys college and wants to maximize that enjoyment, even if that means putting off the NFL and the millions that come with it for a year.

I'm sure he loves football, but it isn't hard to imagine he loves being in college and the things that go along with it just as much, so why give it up before he has to?

wade moore · 01-07-2011, 08:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Lathum

Depends on your definition of logic. You are thinking like a dude who makes an honest living. You, I , nor likely anyone else on this board know what goes on in his mind or what is will be like to eventually be in his financial position.

He knows at some point he is getting paid. Now I may be romanticizing this, but maybe he also knows his college years are something you never get back once "real life" begins. Perhaps he enjoys college and wants to maximize that enjoyment, even if that means putting off the NFL and the millions that come with it for a year.

I'm sure he loves football, but it isn't hard to imagine he loves being in college and the things that go along with it just as much, so why give it up before he has to?

Because you're a Joe Theismann injury away from never playing in the NFL?

Lathum · 01-07-2011, 08:53 AM

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Originally Posted by wade moore

Because you're a Joe Theismann injury away from never playing in the NFL?

Name the last injury you saw like that in college?

Not to mention he will have a monster insurance policy.

JPhillips · 01-07-2011, 08:56 AM

I'd be much more worried about accumulated concussions.

wade moore · 01-07-2011, 08:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Lathum

Name the last injury you saw like that in college?

Not to mention he will have a monster insurance policy.

Willis McGahee? Yeah, he still had an ok NFL career, but he's a durable running back.

What about the kid for your Rutgers team (I think you're a Rutgers fan, or am I mixing that up with Logan?) that can't walk now? Is that unlikely to happen to a QB, maybe - but it could.

A "monster insurance policy" is still not going to compare to 1.1 money, even IF there is a rookie scale. And, you never get that NFL dream money.

Lathum · 01-07-2011, 08:59 AM

Wade, why wont you grasp that money may not be the driving factor in this kids life?

Ronnie Dobbs2 · 01-07-2011, 08:59 AM

So the minuscule chance that you could be injured should drive this major decision?

Do you fly on planes?

Lathum · 01-07-2011, 09:05 AM

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Originally Posted by wade moore

I've read all of the posts in this thread.

Personally, I see a lot of emotional reasons to stay at Stanford, but no LOGICAL ones.

From an objective, life-benefit situation I still see no LOGICAL reasons to stay at Stanford this year.

Colin Cowherd agrees with you, congratulations.

Logan · 01-07-2011, 09:07 AM

If a player ever makes a choice because it may be the last snap he ever plays...he would be better off not being on the field at all, because that mindset really can get you seriously hurt. Luck doesn't seem like that kind of guy.

There's just as good of a chance of major injury in the NFL (maybe more with the additional strength/speed of the players) and I doubt he would care about having a $30 million pile sitting around if he was in a wheelchair.

And FTR, LeGrand WILL walk soon

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RomaGoth · 01-07-2011, 09:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Lathum

Colin Cowherd agrees with you, congratulations.

lol, just heard him on the radio. What a tool Cowherd is.

Swaggs · 01-07-2011, 09:39 AM

A couple of thoughts.

I think his dad is still well-connected enough with the NFL brass to have a good feeling on the labor situation and this partially tells me that things are not looking good there.

If I am an NFL owner, I am sure as hell not giving my draft picks (if there is even a draft at the regular time this year) any non-refundable signing bonuses until I know if/when we are having a season and what new labor agreements are in place.

Luck was a 5-star QB coming out of high school in Houston, could have probably gone just about anywhere in the country, and chose to go to Stanford in Harbaugh's first (4-8) season -- well before Harbaugh was established as a head coach. I'd say there is significant evidence that he is wired differently than the average football player.

All that said, I am surprised that he did not turn pro. If you are guaranteed to be in the top 10 or 15 in the draft, the money available allows you to pretty much set up your family for generations and do almost whatever you could possibly want to do (including pay out of pocket for two semesters at Stanford).

RedKingGold · 01-07-2011, 09:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Lathum

Wade, why wont you grasp that money may not be the driving factor in this kids life?

Wade just doesn't grasp the value of a good mimosa.

Lathum · 01-07-2011, 09:41 AM

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Originally Posted by RedKingGold

Wade just doesn't grasp the value of a good mimosa.

It's pathetic how bad you want to be Subby.

Swaggs · 01-07-2011, 09:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Lathum

Name the last injury you saw like that in college?

Not to mention he will have a monster insurance policy.

Michael Bush had a pretty bad one. He looked like a top 25 pick, but came back and broke his leg, I believe on a kick off return, in the first game of the season.

RedKingGold · 01-07-2011, 09:47 AM

But seriously, the decision to go back to Stanford IS for emotional reasons. He likes the college life, loves playing college football, loves Stanford, etc. These are "happiness" reasons, not "smart" reasons.

I mean, props to the kid for going back. It was a good and happy decision for him and money isn't everything, however, an unemotional decision putting the pros/cons on a sheet of paper would weigh heavily towards declaring for the NFL Draft.

RedKingGold · 01-07-2011, 09:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Lathum

It's pathetic how bad you want to be Subby.

Subby wouldn't lower himself to my level.

Lathum · 01-07-2011, 09:48 AM

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Originally Posted by RedKingGold

Subby wouldn't lower himself to my level.

We finally agree on something.

Carry on.

Ronnie Dobbs2 · 01-07-2011, 09:49 AM

If people are going to insist that the "smartest" decision is the one that gets him the most money, then you are right. It wasn't "smart."

JonInMiddleGA · 01-07-2011, 09:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Swaggs

I'd say there is significant evidence that he is wired differently than the average football player.

That's a sentiment I've heard/read several places now & I keep thinking how that would give me considerable pause about drafting him.

molson · 01-07-2011, 09:51 AM

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Originally Posted by RedKingGold

But seriously, the decision to go back to Stanford IS for emotional reasons. He likes the college life, loves playing college football, loves Stanford, etc. These are "happiness" reasons, not "smart" reasons.

Knowing what makes you happy is the smartest kind of smart there is.

RedKingGold · 01-07-2011, 09:53 AM

Bunch of smelly hippies in this thread.

molson · 01-07-2011, 09:54 AM

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Originally Posted by JonInMiddleGA

That's a sentiment I've heard/read several places now & I keep thinking how that would give me considerable pause about drafting him.

He probably wouldn't want to be drafted by a franchise with that mindset (it wouldn't be "smart" to let him miss a practice to see his kid get born, for example).

Danny · 01-07-2011, 09:54 AM

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Originally Posted by RedKingGold

But seriously, the decision to go back to Stanford IS for emotional reasons. He likes the college life, loves playing college football, loves Stanford, etc. These are "happiness" reasons, not "smart" reasons.

I mean, props to the kid for going back. It was a good and happy decision for him and money isn't everything, however, an unemotional decision putting the pros/cons on a sheet of paper would weigh heavily towards declaring for the NFL Draft.

If you're going strictly by logical decisions. Quarterbacks with at least three years playing experience at the college level are significantly more likely to have success in the NFL than someone with two or less.

So, is success a logical reason? Or is simply getting as much cash as quickly as possible the ONLY logical factor?

molson · 01-07-2011, 09:55 AM

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Originally Posted by RedKingGold

Bunch of smelly hippies in this thread.

Serious question though - do you think the decision that maximizes your money is the only "smart" decision in any situation? Why are you on this message board instead of working then? Have you ever paid money to go on a vacation?

And Luck's margin for error, money wise, is a hell of greater than ours. He'll be making money. He's not leaving football to be a janitor for the love of cleaning toilets or anything.

RedKingGold · 01-07-2011, 09:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Danny

If you're going strictly by logical decisions. Quarterbacks with at least three years playing experience at the college level are significantly more likely to have success in the NFL than someone with two or less.

So, is success a logical reason? Or is simply getting as much cash as quickly as possible the ONLY logical factor?

Again, this is ONE factor. Put this on the "pro" side of the unemotional list when weighing the decision.

My point was that weighing EVERYTHING would tip the scales towards going pro because there are many more "cons" to staying in college for his senior year.

Denial Of Freedom · 01-07-2011, 10:00 AM

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Originally Posted by RedKingGold

But seriously, the decision to go back to Stanford IS for emotional reasons. He likes the college life, loves playing college football, loves Stanford, etc. These are "happiness" reasons, not "smart" reasons.

I mean, props to the kid for going back. It was a good and happy decision for him and money isn't everything, however, an unemotional decision putting the pros/cons on a sheet of paper would weigh heavily towards declaring for the NFL Draft.

How do we really know why he didn't come out? Of course he is going to say it was to stay and get his degree, but that may not be the full reason. If the season is locked out completely how will the draft work next year? Lottery? Could be as many have stated he doesn't want to be put in a situation where he is going to Carolina when he has a small say so. Plus if the season is locked out, which it could be, he will still be gaining valuable experience for another year. That sound logical to me when he may not even get any money this year if there is a lock out.

RedKingGold · 01-07-2011, 10:00 AM

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Originally Posted by molson

Serious question though - do you think the decision that maximizes your money is the only "smart" decision in any situation? Why are you on this message board instead of working then?

Again, money is not the ONLY factor here. Most athletes dream of achieveing success at the highest level, which is the pro level. There is also the risk that Harbaugh does not come back, and the potential of a new head coach mucking up things in Luck's senior year. Further, the loss of seven offensive starters does hurt Luck's chances of eclipsing the success of this year's Stanford team.

Luck's done all he can at this level, why doesn't he challenge himself to see what he can accomplish in the NFL?

RedKingGold · 01-07-2011, 10:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Denial Of Freedom

How do we really know why he didn't come out? Of course he is going to say it was to stay and get his degree, but that may not be the full reason. If the season is locked out completely how will the draft work next year? Lottery? Could be as many have stated he doesn't want to be put in a situation where he is going to Carolina when he has a small say so. Plus if the season is locked out, which it could be, he will still be gaining valuable experience for another year. That sound logical to me when he may not even get any money this year if there is a lock out.

We're speculating, no one really knows, we're arguing as if we're in Luck's shoes based on our perception of his particular circumstances.

Swaggs · 01-07-2011, 10:01 AM

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Originally Posted by JonInMiddleGA

That's a sentiment I've heard/read several places now & I keep thinking how that would give me considerable pause about drafting him.

I can definitely see that being used against him next year. The whole "Does he love the game?" argument.

Swaggs · 01-07-2011, 10:03 AM

Maybe Harbaugh leaves, Rich Rodriguez takes the Stanford job, and tries to install the spread offense and make Luck a running QB?

Denial Of Freedom · 01-07-2011, 10:05 AM

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Originally Posted by RedKingGold

We're speculating, no one really knows, we're arguing as if we're in Luck's shoes based on our perception of his particular circumstances.

Exactly, and people are speculating that he will be getting a payday, when he may not get one for quite a while. Either way we look at it there are very logical reasons for either decision he made. So what it really comes down to is what will make him happy.

Ksyrup · 01-07-2011, 10:05 AM

It must have been the love of the game thing that kept SD from drafting Peyton Manning. That worked out well.

RedKingGold · 01-07-2011, 10:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Denial Of Freedom

Exactly, and people are speculating that he will be getting a payday, when he may not get one for quite a while. Either way we look at it there are very logical reasons for either decision he made. So what it really comes down to is what will make him happy.

Do you know why he was happy to stay in Stanford?

Ronnie Dobbs2 · 01-07-2011, 10:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Swaggs

I can definitely see that being used against him next year. The whole "Does he love the game?" argument.

Personally speaking, the confidence required to not do what everyone wants/expects would be a huge plus in my mind.

whomario · 01-07-2011, 10:14 AM

What are the chances of Stanford having another season as good next year btw ? Wasn´t that basically like as good a year as they could ever hope for ?

i think what really is baffling that he makes that decicion seemingly unrelated to the football-side of things considering that he doesn´t even know if his coach is going to be back.

I really think it´s an admireable decicion and especially great that he seemingly made that decicion on his own with (as far as i know) no pressure from parents or coaches, but obviously that´s a decicion that won´t hold up in a pro/con type of argument.

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01-06-2011, 07:16 PM	#101
Arles Grey Dog Software Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Phoenix, AZ by way of Belleville, IL	Locker was always viewed as a project as a pure passer. He had a nice 3-4 game stretch in 09 where people were talking about him being #1 overall once he came out. But, once he went through the combines and workouts, he would have dropped pretty quick. He has an absolute cannon, great athletic ability and is pretty tough, but his decision making has always been questionable. He was even more raw last year, so I think coming back was the right football move. He was likely a mid first rounder last year and that's what he'll be this year. The only knock would be with the labor agreement uncertainly, it's better financially to be a 10-15 pick in '10 than the same range in '11. Still, I think he would have been a disaster in the NFL had he come out last season. __________________ Developer of Bowl Bound College Football http://www.greydogsoftware.com

01-07-2011, 06:56 AM	#113
Ronnie Dobbs2 Pro Rookie Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Bahston Mass	Is it not logical to maximize your own happiness? __________________ There's no I in Teamocil, at least not where you'd think

01-07-2011, 07:19 AM	#115
Ksyrup This guy has posted so much, his fingers are about to fall off. Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: In Absentia	The most logical reason to leave is for money. But when money isn't that high on your priority list, then the logical decision isn't necessarily the right or best one, is it? If we were having this discussion last year, he'd be a fool to leave so much money on the table, assuming the difference between Bradford's deal and the likely cap on a 1st round pick's initial contract is as big as some think it will be. I think he pretty much would have been forced to take the money at that point. But in the position he's in now? Eh. It's a shock, but I can understand it, given his family situation. And also, maybe he really, really has a bad feeling about going to Carolina and is rolling the dice that he gets picked by a better franchise next year. Who knows? __________________ M's pitcher Miguel Batista: "Now, I feel like I've had everything. I've talked pitching with Sandy Koufax, had Kenny G play for me. Maybe if I could have an interview with God, then I'd be served. I'd be complete."

01-07-2011, 08:56 AM	#119
JPhillips Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Newburgh, NY	I'd be much more worried about accumulated concussions. __________________ To love someone is to strive to accept that person exactly the way he or she is, right here and now.. - Mr. Rogers

01-06-2011, 08:53 PM	#103
Galaxy Coordinator Join Date: Apr 2005	I didn't realize that Luck has two more years of college eligibility. Smart guy in that he'll have three chances to decide what team, on a limited role, to play for.

01-07-2011, 12:19 AM	#109
BishopMVP Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Concord, MA/UMass	FWIW, Jake Locker wasn't even given a 1st-round grade last year by the NFL evaluators. That 1st overall pick was shit thrown against the board by Kiper and McShay, and the head of the NFL's committee called them out for the ignorance they displayed.

01-07-2011, 07:19 AM	#114
Logan Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: NYC	Of course it's not. Just like it's not logical to get your third year of college football under you to better prepare for the transition to the NFL. I don't remember the exact number, but there's a pretty strong correlation between number of college starts and success in the NFL.

01-07-2011, 08:59 AM	#121
Lathum Favored Bitch #1 Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: homeless in NJ	Wade, why wont you grasp that money may not be the driving factor in this kids life?

01-07-2011, 08:59 AM	#122
Ronnie Dobbs2 Pro Rookie Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Bahston Mass	So the minuscule chance that you could be injured should drive this major decision? Do you fly on planes? __________________ There's no I in Teamocil, at least not where you'd think

01-07-2011, 09:07 AM	#124
Logan Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: NYC	If a player ever makes a choice because it may be the last snap he ever plays...he would be better off not being on the field at all, because that mindset really can get you seriously hurt. Luck doesn't seem like that kind of guy. There's just as good of a chance of major injury in the NFL (maybe more with the additional strength/speed of the players) and I doubt he would care about having a $30 million pile sitting around if he was in a wheelchair. And FTR, LeGrand WILL walk soon .

01-07-2011, 09:39 AM	#126
Swaggs Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000	A couple of thoughts. I think his dad is still well-connected enough with the NFL brass to have a good feeling on the labor situation and this partially tells me that things are not looking good there. If I am an NFL owner, I am sure as hell not giving my draft picks (if there is even a draft at the regular time this year) any non-refundable signing bonuses until I know if/when we are having a season and what new labor agreements are in place. Luck was a 5-star QB coming out of high school in Houston, could have probably gone just about anywhere in the country, and chose to go to Stanford in Harbaugh's first (4-8) season -- well before Harbaugh was established as a head coach. I'd say there is significant evidence that he is wired differently than the average football player. All that said, I am surprised that he did not turn pro. If you are guaranteed to be in the top 10 or 15 in the draft, the money available allows you to pretty much set up your family for generations and do almost whatever you could possibly want to do (including pay out of pocket for two semesters at Stanford). __________________ DOWN WITH HATTRICK!!! The RWBL Are you reading In The Bleachers? Last edited by Swaggs : 01-07-2011 at 09:39 AM.

01-07-2011, 09:47 AM	#130
RedKingGold College Starter Join Date: Oct 2002	But seriously, the decision to go back to Stanford IS for emotional reasons. He likes the college life, loves playing college football, loves Stanford, etc. These are "happiness" reasons, not "smart" reasons. I mean, props to the kid for going back. It was a good and happy decision for him and money isn't everything, however, an unemotional decision putting the pros/cons on a sheet of paper would weigh heavily towards declaring for the NFL Draft.

01-07-2011, 09:49 AM	#133
Ronnie Dobbs2 Pro Rookie Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Bahston Mass	If people are going to insist that the "smartest" decision is the one that gets him the most money, then you are right. It wasn't "smart." __________________ There's no I in Teamocil, at least not where you'd think

01-07-2011, 09:53 AM	#136
RedKingGold College Starter Join Date: Oct 2002	Bunch of smelly hippies in this thread.

01-07-2011, 10:03 AM	#145
Swaggs Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000	Maybe Harbaugh leaves, Rich Rodriguez takes the Stanford job, and tries to install the spread offense and make Luck a running QB? __________________ DOWN WITH HATTRICK!!! The RWBL Are you reading In The Bleachers?

01-07-2011, 10:05 AM	#147
Ksyrup This guy has posted so much, his fingers are about to fall off. Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: In Absentia	It must have been the love of the game thing that kept SD from drafting Peyton Manning. That worked out well. __________________ M's pitcher Miguel Batista: "Now, I feel like I've had everything. I've talked pitching with Sandy Koufax, had Kenny G play for me. Maybe if I could have an interview with God, then I'd be served. I'd be complete."

01-07-2011, 10:14 AM	#150
whomario Pro Starter Join Date: Jul 2007	What are the chances of Stanford having another season as good next year btw ? Wasn´t that basically like as good a year as they could ever hope for ? i think what really is baffling that he makes that decicion seemingly unrelated to the football-side of things considering that he doesn´t even know if his coach is going to be back. I really think it´s an admireable decicion and especially great that he seemingly made that decicion on his own with (as far as i know) no pressure from parents or coaches, but obviously that´s a decicion that won´t hold up in a pro/con type of argument. Last edited by whomario : 01-07-2011 at 10:18 AM.

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