No Knox? FOFC is slipping - Page 3

spleen1015 · 06-11-2010, 02:12 PM

I just read that too.

That would be a pretty amazing turn of events. Even though the guy is a convicted mobster, they need to check him out.

Lathum · 06-11-2010, 02:25 PM

My guess is the Italian government will ignore it just like they ignored all the other evidence (or lack of) showing she was innocent. This whole trial was a farce from the start and I doubt the Italians are going to backtrack and admit they were wrong.

Poli · 06-11-2010, 02:29 PM

The Italian woman that killed my best friend in a drunk driving accident is already out and about...so this hardly surprises me.

RainMaker · 06-11-2010, 04:09 PM

Italy seems like they have a justice system bordering on Third World status.

JediKooter · 06-11-2010, 04:15 PM

Just don't make fun of the Catholic church there or your ass will be in jail before you can say pedophile.

digamma · 10-03-2011, 12:32 PM

Anticipatory bump.

tyketime · 10-03-2011, 12:34 PM

I was surprised nobody else had. Looks like verdict will come in today (but no earlier than 2pm ET).

spleen1015 · 10-03-2011, 02:46 PM

CNN says 3:30 EST.

Ronnie Dobbs2 · 10-03-2011, 03:51 PM

Not guilty.

Flasch186 · 10-03-2011, 03:51 PM

Free to go but she owes some dude some money

Lathum · 10-03-2011, 04:01 PM

justice served

dawgfan · 10-03-2011, 04:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Lathum

justice served

Seems that way, but I'm curious to know what it means for Knox that the defamation charge was not overturned.

Ryan S · 10-03-2011, 04:10 PM

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Originally Posted by dawgfan

Seems that way, but I'm curious to know what it means for Knox that the defamation charge was not overturned.

Not a lot as she has already served the sentence that was passed for that.

Flasch186 · 10-03-2011, 04:11 PM

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Originally Posted by dawgfan

Seems that way, but I'm curious to know what it means for Knox that the defamation charge was not overturned.

I guess during the interrogation she implicated some dude so she has to pay for all his fees etc.

Young Drachma · 10-03-2011, 04:13 PM

Cue the book + reality show + appearance on non-Oprah.

Easy Mac · 10-03-2011, 04:13 PM

So wait, this means she's hot, but not crazy threesome hot?

That's disappointing.

Lathum · 10-03-2011, 04:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Dark Cloud

Cue the book + reality show + appearance on non-Oprah.

The announcment triggered a heated debat at work as to whether or not it would be worth going to prison in Italy for 4 years to get the millions she has coming to her.

Easy Mac · 10-03-2011, 04:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Lathum

The announcment triggered a heated debat at work as to whether or not it would be worth going to prison in Italy for 4 years to get the millions she has coming to her.

It's a women's prison in Italy. We've all seen those movies.

Suicane75 · 10-03-2011, 04:18 PM

If it's a womans prison then I'd have to say I'd do it.

Matthean · 10-03-2011, 04:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Easy Mac

So wait, this means she's hot, but not crazy threesome hot?

That's disappointing.

If you get put into jail for expected murder, you had to do something wrong.

Young Drachma · 10-03-2011, 04:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Lathum

The announcment triggered a heated debat at work as to whether or not it would be worth going to prison in Italy for 4 years to get the millions she has coming to her.

I guess if you were poor, maybe. But otherwise? Hell to the no. And it's such a fluke, because just as easy as they said non-guilty, they could've kept her ass there longer. And as those guys who get released here due to DNA evidence...no way that it's worth the years of hell that you lose. But she's still young and can tell her story, etc., so I dunno.

dawgfan · 10-03-2011, 04:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Dark Cloud

I guess if you were poor, maybe. But otherwise? Hell to the no. And it's such a fluke, because just as easy as they said non-guilty, they could've kept her ass there longer. And as those guys who get released here due to DNA evidence...no way that it's worth the years of hell that you lose. But she's still young and can tell her story, etc., so I dunno.

I think a good test is this - how many people here were convinced that the murder conviction would be overturned? I had maybe 60% confidence. What I've learned about the Italian justice system did not give me a lot of confidence in their ability to get the correct ruling.

Ronnie Dobbs2 · 10-03-2011, 04:53 PM

I'm guessing Knox broke Twitter?

edit: Eh, back up.

cartman · 10-03-2011, 06:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Easy Mac

So wait, this means she's hot, but not crazy threesome hot?

That's disappointing.

Her and Casey Anthony is a "not guilty of murder but still crazy" three-way.

Ksyrup · 10-04-2011, 09:36 AM

The show someone is dreaming up with Knox, Casey Anthony, Kate Gosselin, and Octomom... I wonder if negative TV ratings are possible?

Apathetic Lurker · 10-04-2011, 10:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Ksyrup

The show someone is dreaming up with Knox, Casey Anthony, Kate Gosselin, and Octomom... I wonder if negative TV ratings are possible?

Negative ratings ? it will be the most popular show on Spike TV!

tyketime · 10-04-2011, 10:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Apathetic Lurker

Negative ratings ? it will be the most popular show on Spike TV!

Now that's a Charlie's Angels remake I could get into...

Ksyrup · 10-04-2011, 10:47 AM

No one will touch Kasey Anthony with a 50-foot pole, Gosselin is terminally unlikeable, and Octomom's last publicity was about wishing her kids were dead.

Passacaglia · 10-04-2011, 11:44 AM

Shouldn't Kate Gosselin be the Octomom? Maybe the two of them should have some sort of competition to decide who deserves the title of Octomom.

larrymcg421 · 10-04-2011, 11:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Ksyrup

I wonder if negative TV ratings are possible?

See: CW

Galaxy · 10-04-2011, 01:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Flasch186

I guess during the interrogation she implicated some dude so she has to pay for all his fees etc.

I didn't know defamation was a criminal matter; I always thought it was a civil case. Unless it's the same as lying under oath?

Young Drachma · 10-04-2011, 01:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Galaxy

I didn't know defamation was a criminal matter; I always thought it was a civil case. Unless it's the same as lying under oath?

Italian law.

Young Drachma · 11-14-2011, 06:33 PM

Amanda Knox -- Guilty of a Poor Costume Choice | TMZ.com

dawgfan · 11-14-2011, 06:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Dark Cloud

Amanda Knox -- Guilty of a Poor Costume Choice | TMZ.com

Or maybe she's supporting Movember...?

CrimsonFox · 11-14-2011, 06:46 PM

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Originally Posted by RomaGoth

...or this Barney?

Or...

Galaxy · 03-25-2013, 08:31 PM

So Italy is trying to get a re-trail of the case? I guess Italy's Supreme Court rules on it tomorrow.

Glengoyne · 03-25-2013, 08:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Galaxy

So Italy is trying to get a re-trail of the case? I guess Italy's Supreme Court rules on it tomorrow.

That would really suck for her. Even if the US says.."no no we believe in the principle of No Double Jeopardy"*, and doesn't extradite her, she won't be really comfortable traveling abroad ever again for fear of arrest.

*Asterisk because if you really piss people off in a way that brings media attention, we'll try you on federal charges and just rename the offenses.

molson · 03-25-2013, 09:10 PM

It sounds like its just a higher appellate court, so it wouldn't implicate even American-style double jeopardy, if they have such a thing. She wasn't acquitted, the conviction was thrown out at the intermediate appellate level. Like if the 9th circuit court of appeals throws out your conviction the United States Supreme Court could put it back in place.

spleen1015 · 03-26-2013, 09:03 AM

If it was me, I would never travel abroad again anyway.

Hopefully this court isn't stupid.

JonInMiddleGA · 03-26-2013, 09:06 AM

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Originally Posted by molson

It sounds like its just a higher appellate court, so it wouldn't implicate even American-style double jeopardy, if they have such a thing. She wasn't acquitted, the conviction was thrown out at the intermediate appellate level. Like if the 9th circuit court of appeals throws out your conviction the United States Supreme Court could put it back in place.

This.

And honestly, I was shocked that she walked in the first place. I'll be surprised if a higher court doesn't deal with what appeared to be an appeals court bowing to media pressure.

Lathum · 03-26-2013, 09:31 AM

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Originally Posted by JonInMiddleGA

This.

And honestly, I was shocked that she walked in the first place. I'll be surprised if a higher court doesn't deal with what appeared to be an appeals court bowing to media pressure.

why are you shocked? The crooked Italian proscecuter botched the case big time. The Knox family anticipated this happening and I would be shocked if the US Gonvernment hands her over given how poorly the original case was tried while she sat in jail for 4 years.

JonInMiddleGA · 03-26-2013, 09:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Lathum

why are you shocked? The crooked Italian proscecuter botched the case big time. The Knox family anticipated this happening and I would be shocked if the US Gonvernment hands her over given how poorly the original case was tried while she sat in jail for 4 years.

Why? I believe the bitch is guilty as hell, and only walked away from it because an appeals court got unnerved by media coverage & general all purpose whining.

Everything I've read to date leaves me believing she's as guilty as Casey Anthony.

Ryan S · 03-26-2013, 09:42 AM

Not sure the courts were bowing to media pressure, a lot of the European media was against the acquittal of Amanda Knox.

The Italian legal system is a joke, so whatever happens we should not be surprised. I reckon this will go on for years, no matter what the result of this particular case is

JonInMiddleGA · 03-26-2013, 09:58 AM

ROME (AP) - Italy's highest criminal court on Tuesday overturned Amanda Knox's acquittal in the slaying of her British roommate and ordered a new trial, prolonging a case that has become a cause celebre in the United States.

Knox called the decision "painful" but said she was confident that she would be exonerated.

Italian law cannot compel Knox to return for the new trial, and her lawyer said she had no plans to do so. The appellate court hearing the new case could declare her in contempt of court but that carries no additional penalties.

Italy's Court of Cassation ruled that an appeals court in Florence must re-hear the case against the American student and her former Italian boyfriend for the murder of 21-year-old Meredith Kercher. The exact issues that have to be reconsidered won't be known until the court releases its full ruling within 90 days.

rowech · 03-26-2013, 10:09 AM

This case and the one of Blade Runner in South Africa make me think that maybe our judicial system isn't as bad as I think it is.

GoldenEagle · 03-26-2013, 10:13 AM

Didn't they already convict the drifter guy of the murder?

Young Drachma · 09-20-2013, 08:48 AM

Amanda Knox imagines life in prison with 'letter to my unborn child' - TODAY.com

digamma · 09-20-2013, 09:16 AM

Astrid lolz.

cuervo72 · 09-20-2013, 09:17 AM

Still pretty sure she has no soul.

DanGarion · 09-20-2013, 11:43 AM

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Originally Posted by digamma

Astrid lolz.

"Starts with an 'A'"
"Asterisk"
"Astro"
"Asteroid"
"Astringent"
"Asprin"

06-11-2010, 02:12 PM	#101
spleen1015 Coordinator Join Date: Sep 2003	I just read that too. That would be a pretty amazing turn of events. Even though the guy is a convicted mobster, they need to check him out. __________________ Why choose failure when success is an option?

06-11-2010, 02:29 PM	#103
Poli FOFC Survivor Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Wentzville, MO	The Italian woman that killed my best friend in a drunk driving accident is already out and about...so this hardly surprises me. __________________ Cheer for a walk on quarterback! Ardent leads the Vols in the dynasty forum.

06-11-2010, 04:15 PM	#105
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10-03-2011, 03:51 PM	#109
Ronnie Dobbs2 Pro Rookie Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Bahston Mass	Not guilty. __________________ There's no I in Teamocil, at least not where you'd think

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06-11-2010, 02:25 PM	#102
Lathum Favored Bitch #1 Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: homeless in NJ	My guess is the Italian government will ignore it just like they ignored all the other evidence (or lack of) showing she was innocent. This whole trial was a farce from the start and I doubt the Italians are going to backtrack and admit they were wrong.

06-11-2010, 04:09 PM	#104
RainMaker Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Chicago, IL	Italy seems like they have a justice system bordering on Third World status.

10-03-2011, 12:32 PM	#106
digamma Torchbearer Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: On Lake Harriet	Anticipatory bump.

10-03-2011, 12:34 PM	#107
tyketime College Benchwarmer Join Date: Nov 2003	I was surprised nobody else had. Looks like verdict will come in today (but no earlier than 2pm ET).

10-03-2011, 02:46 PM	#108
spleen1015 Coordinator Join Date: Sep 2003	CNN says 3:30 EST.

10-03-2011, 04:01 PM	#111
Lathum Favored Bitch #1 Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: homeless in NJ	justice served

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10-03-2011, 04:13 PM	#116
Easy Mac Registered User Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Here	So wait, this means she's hot, but not crazy threesome hot? That's disappointing.

10-03-2011, 04:18 PM	#119
Suicane75 Coordinator Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: NJ	If it's a womans prison then I'd have to say I'd do it.

10-03-2011, 04:53 PM	#123
Ronnie Dobbs2 Pro Rookie Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Bahston Mass	I'm guessing Knox broke Twitter? edit: Eh, back up. __________________ There's no I in Teamocil, at least not where you'd think Last edited by Ronnie Dobbs2 : 10-03-2011 at 04:55 PM.

10-04-2011, 09:36 AM	#125
Ksyrup This guy has posted so much, his fingers are about to fall off. Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: In Absentia	The show someone is dreaming up with Knox, Casey Anthony, Kate Gosselin, and Octomom... I wonder if negative TV ratings are possible? __________________ M's pitcher Miguel Batista: "Now, I feel like I've had everything. I've talked pitching with Sandy Koufax, had Kenny G play for me. Maybe if I could have an interview with God, then I'd be served. I'd be complete."

10-04-2011, 10:47 AM	#128
Ksyrup This guy has posted so much, his fingers are about to fall off. Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: In Absentia	No one will touch Kasey Anthony with a 50-foot pole, Gosselin is terminally unlikeable, and Octomom's last publicity was about wishing her kids were dead. __________________ M's pitcher Miguel Batista: "Now, I feel like I've had everything. I've talked pitching with Sandy Koufax, had Kenny G play for me. Maybe if I could have an interview with God, then I'd be served. I'd be complete."

10-04-2011, 11:44 AM	#129
Passacaglia Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Big Ten Country	Shouldn't Kate Gosselin be the Octomom? Maybe the two of them should have some sort of competition to decide who deserves the title of Octomom.

11-14-2011, 06:33 PM	#133
Young Drachma Dark Cloud Join Date: Apr 2001	Amanda Knox -- Guilty of a Poor Costume Choice \| TMZ.com

03-25-2013, 08:31 PM	#136
Galaxy Coordinator Join Date: Apr 2005	So Italy is trying to get a re-trail of the case? I guess Italy's Supreme Court rules on it tomorrow.

03-25-2013, 09:10 PM	#138
molson General Manager Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: The Mountains	It sounds like its just a higher appellate court, so it wouldn't implicate even American-style double jeopardy, if they have such a thing. She wasn't acquitted, the conviction was thrown out at the intermediate appellate level. Like if the 9th circuit court of appeals throws out your conviction the United States Supreme Court could put it back in place.

03-26-2013, 09:03 AM	#139
spleen1015 Coordinator Join Date: Sep 2003	If it was me, I would never travel abroad again anyway. Hopefully this court isn't stupid. __________________ Why choose failure when success is an option?

03-26-2013, 09:42 AM	#143
Ryan S Quarterback Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: London, England	Not sure the courts were bowing to media pressure, a lot of the European media was against the acquittal of Amanda Knox. The Italian legal system is a joke, so whatever happens we should not be surprised. I reckon this will go on for years, no matter what the result of this particular case is

03-26-2013, 09:58 AM	#144
JonInMiddleGA Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Behind Enemy Lines in Athens, GA	ROME (AP) - Italy's highest criminal court on Tuesday overturned Amanda Knox's acquittal in the slaying of her British roommate and ordered a new trial, prolonging a case that has become a cause celebre in the United States. Knox called the decision "painful" but said she was confident that she would be exonerated. Italian law cannot compel Knox to return for the new trial, and her lawyer said she had no plans to do so. The appellate court hearing the new case could declare her in contempt of court but that carries no additional penalties. Italy's Court of Cassation ruled that an appeals court in Florence must re-hear the case against the American student and her former Italian boyfriend for the murder of 21-year-old Meredith Kercher. The exact issues that have to be reconsidered won't be known until the court releases its full ruling within 90 days. __________________ "I lit another cigarette. Unless I specifically inform you to the contrary, I am always lighting another cigarette." - from a novel by Martin Amis

03-26-2013, 10:09 AM	#145
rowech Pro Starter Join Date: Feb 2006	This case and the one of Blade Runner in South Africa make me think that maybe our judicial system isn't as bad as I think it is.

03-26-2013, 10:13 AM	#146
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09-20-2013, 08:48 AM	#147
Young Drachma Dark Cloud Join Date: Apr 2001	Amanda Knox imagines life in prison with 'letter to my unborn child' - TODAY.com

09-20-2013, 09:16 AM	#148
digamma Torchbearer Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: On Lake Harriet	Astrid lolz.

09-20-2013, 09:17 AM	#149
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