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Whomever 'wins', I'll send them a free copy of Chronology (If for some reason I can't find the copy, I'll send something else. If in the event my America-centric dates win, I'll send it to the #2 place. )
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dola: I don't think September 11, 2001 is the sixth most significant date in United States history, much less world history.
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Certainly more so than September 11 was. I think if you poll people on the biggest disasters in history, that is one of the top choices. I also think that "disaster" is a fairly shallow category, although not the most shallow. People seem to underestimate the value of category depth, and are even far more American centric that I thought they would be.
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I think the problem comes in the Date/Event qualification. If we're drafting Dates I think September 11th is top 3 material (along with Pearl Harbor and July 4th). If we're talking events, then I agree with you.
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I struggle with the "Natural" part of Natural Disaster, quite frankly.
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You misunderstand me, and as a slight tangent, you're a little trigger happy on the hole 'it's american-centric' shot, IMO. What I was more referring to is the fact that, in my mind, there were several better dates to pick (not in the disaster category, but overall) that would be better this early in the draft. |
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Having to have separate months for each pick, as well as blacked out days makes it necessary to not always grab what one might think is the 'top' pick at a given time.
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I am a bit trigger happy with it, but of the first 12 picks, 11 are America-centric (counting the WWII events as America-centric), so I'm not too off-base here. But IMO it was a great pick because it's a shallow category. There are only a handful of natural disasters that have an agreed upon date that are as memorable over the test of time as Pompeii. Particularly when Katrina, a footnote at best over the past 100 years (and possibly not in the top 5 over the past decade), was picked before it. My view on these drafts is that you don't go for the "best value" picks. You go for the top picks in the shallow categories.
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Holy crap, I completely missed this part (even though it's right there in the rules).
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Which led to my earlier question. Will the date prevail over the event or will event regardless of date prevail in the voter's minds? Let's take Vesuvius. Great event, totally irrelevant date. I do, however, think by having to go with different months is a fascinating twist.
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I bet events will be strong in the voters mind.
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10-09-2007, 05:15 PM | #115 |
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This is so nitpicky I'm almost embarassed to post it, but... does the Feb. 28 event eliminate March 1, or just Feb. 29?
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Who's on the clock?
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I think Radii is.
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I believe it would be Radii.
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Uh.. Someone correct me if my math is wrong, but I think this is going to get very hard. If every selection eliminates three days, then there will only be 5 (6 if you count feb. 29) days that are left eligible at the end of the draft. This may prove to be near impossible to get selections in the later rounds.
10 * 12 * 3 = 360
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dola: I guess that's a bit of a simplification.. some of the 3 day ranges could overlap..
e.g.: I select March 2, it wips out March 1, 2,3. Someone chooses March 4, it wipes out March 3,4,5.. but that's still 5 days for every two picks..
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ML, that is an excellent question.
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Feb 29th. Still is a valid date albeit only every 4 years.
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That said, the restriction of one pick per month (which dummies like me only noticed now) means that it's possible you could have no valid picks in later rounds. For example, you only have April left to fill but there are no eligible dates to choose from. So I think we either need to loosen the rules of (and this could be fun) force people to pass if they can't find an eligible pick. So some people could wind up with 12 picks, others would have less, with categories unfilled.
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lord, I think that is the beauty of this contest. It may get down to a few dates that you have to fill and we will be scrambling to find something, anything that happened on that date for the category.
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We're going to end up with some obscure baron being given a pig by some king on a certain date.
On with the show, then!
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I'm a big fan of assassinations, apparently, stealing away this famous death and moving it to another category.
2.6 - March 15th, 44 B.C. - Julius Caesar is assassinated by a group of conspirators in the Roman Senate (Politics) While this is of course a famous death, its also a political conspiracy at the highest level in one of the greatest powers in world history. Caesar's death led to a civil war, the end of the Roman Republic, and the formation of the Roman Empire |
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I was wondering when Caesar's assassination was going to be selected.
Also, I think the range of available days is: 5-124. (For those obsessed with this like I am ) I think the days blacked out are at a minimum: (n*3) - (n-1) and at a maximum: (n*3)
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Nice. Looks like I'm finding something else for March.
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It may well be too soon. Right or wrong, playing to the voters here will likely mean having a very "america-centric" draft. I'm hoping on this one that the fame of the event itself, combined with the fact that its an extremely well known date, makes it a pick worth taking this early and will play well with people judging events and others judging primarily well known dates. |
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Incorrect. Not every day eliminates 3 days. You could have someone select Feb 2nd which would eliminate 1st and 3rd days but, then select Feb 4th but, Feb 3rd is already gone so, you just eliminate 1 more day in Feb 5th Should be safe because the worst case is to select a day every 3 days.. example Feb 2,5,8,11,14,17,20,23,26,29 and that is 10 days available. Unless I'm missing something. But, as I had originally stated, my intent was to make it more 'draft' like where your choices would get infinitely whittled down to a last choice of September 19th - Boxcar Willy performs for his record 100th time on Hee-Haw as your television moment. 7/4/1776 = Drafting LT #1 over in the fantasy draft this year.. mostly a no brainer. Last date available = WTF.. NOTHING happened on that date??? good god!
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crap! I was planning on that one lol
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Damn... I was hoping Caesar was going to fall. (no pun intended)
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I hate my draft already.... I feel like I just drafted Cedric Benson and Brandon Jackson.
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How people would know that this particular Caesar was assassinated as oppose to other Caesers that were or were not?
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I think it would, unfortunately, be important that the first post be updated else we might have some conflicted picks.
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I printed off a one-page calendar and am scratching the dates off as we go. Highly recommended.
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I was going to use the date as my fictional spot from Shakespeare's Julius Caesar.
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FWIW, the "Ides of March" was one of the no-brainer 1st round picks I was thinking about earlier. We may be an American-centric board, but I think we're also generally well educated. And not to mention, the popularity of the TV show Rome. Last edited by sabotai : 10-09-2007 at 05:54 PM. |
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Pre-17th century Europe : August 8,1588 The English defeat of the Spanish Armada
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There's a run on August....
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See my later post(s) I'm just stating that it makes things very interesting, not that it was the wrong way to set things up.
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One of the most famous events in European History.
2.9: Pre-17th century Europe - October 14, 1066 - The Battle of Hastings. I'll be stepping away for about an hour.
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MOTHERF. I was hoping Hastings would fall.
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oops. I was just verifying your followup statement.
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I really had hoped that I was going to get this with 2.10 or 3.1 for this exact same purpose. It was one of the reasons I asked about reslotting since it fits nicely in either fiction or Death (or politics but that's filled for me).
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