Werewolf CXVIIIb XTreme - WOLVES WIN - Page 3

Narcizo · 06-14-2011, 01:47 PM

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Originally Posted by mauboy1

I would also suggest to revert your votes back to where they were before voting me to recreate the tie. Leave it at the four candidates and see where it takes us. Web gone completely off my plan here. Jerks. LOL.

I think the 3-4 candidate is a good one. I would actually like it to see a 2-2-2-2 in the future so Danny can sort it all out when he arrives.

Don't think I'll be moving my vote though.

You bring up a good point though that we need to be especially wary of people who aren't posting much - if we're relying on gut calls then someone drifting through without saying much is very dangerous to us. I can't really make that sort of call as not everyone can be active when I'm around but people might want to think about it later in the day.

bhlloy · 06-14-2011, 01:48 PM

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Originally Posted by mauboy1

Congrats to jag creating something out of nothing. If and when I live through the day I'll be able to tell you one wolf. I'm not the seer but based on responses from everything today we'll get some good gut reads by me in this game I promise you that.

Why don't you tell us now? Or did you just do your passive-aggressive reveal-but-not-really-revealing BS?

Chubby · 06-14-2011, 01:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Narcizo

I think the 3-4 candidate is a good one. I would actually like it to see a 2-2-2-2 in the future so Danny can sort it all out when he arrives.

Don't think I'll be moving my vote though.

You bring up a good point though that we need to be especially wary of people who aren't posting much - if we're relying on gut calls then someone drifting through without saying much is very dangerous to us. I can't really make that sort of call as not everyone can be active when I'm around but people might want to think about it later in the day.

I think there's a difference between people who aren't posting much and people who aren't contributing... see Danny in Batman

JAG · 06-14-2011, 01:48 PM

I also agree with Packer's comment that adding a 4th candidate was not a good strategic move when the wolves are better able to control the vote with a more spread-out vote.

Chubby · 06-14-2011, 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by JAG

I also agree with Packer's comment that adding a 4th candidate was not a good strategic move when the wolves are better able to control the vote with a more spread-out vote.

this

spleen1015 · 06-14-2011, 01:49 PM

I just think he's trying to get people to not vote for him by saying he'll have something of value if he lives.

bhlloy · 06-14-2011, 01:51 PM

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Originally Posted by spleen1015

I just think he's trying to get people to not vote for him by saying he'll have something of value if he lives.

Exactly. Nothing is more wolfish than trying to suggest that without actually revealing IMO. I'm feeling better and better about him as the day goes on.

mauchow · 06-14-2011, 01:51 PM

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Originally Posted by bhlloy

Why don't you tell us now? Or did you just do your passive-aggressive reveal-but-not-really-revealing BS?

I'm a plain villager. All I was saying is I'm going to kick some ass this game with my gut feelings. I've already highlighted lots of posts for myself when I get home later.

No reveals from me this game.

Chubby · 06-14-2011, 01:55 PM

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Originally Posted by mauboy1

I'm a plain villager. All I was saying is I'm going to kick some ass this game with my gut feelings. I've already highlighted lots of posts for myself when I get home later.

No reveals from me this game.

Gee I wonder why

Zinto · 06-14-2011, 01:55 PM

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Originally Posted by mauboy1

I'm a plain villager. All I was saying is I'm going to kick some ass this game with my gut feelings. I've already highlighted lots of posts for myself when I get home later.

No reveals from me this game.

Dang my favorite Mau move is the fake reveal

mauchow · 06-14-2011, 01:56 PM

Jesus another misinterpretation.

Fair enough on the adding forth candidate but I liked the idea because it will cause some last minute moves by people once the score goes 3-2-2-2. The analasys that comes after is what I think would prove to be most valuable.

My biggest problem is that I am typing on a phone and try explaining things in too few words because it takes forever. I can explain things more easily on a computer but... shrug.that's the way it goes sometimes.

mauchow · 06-14-2011, 01:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Zinto

Dang my favorite Mau move is the fake reveal

I want to change my Nick in this forum to papparazzi!

mauchow · 06-14-2011, 02:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Chubby

Gee I wonder why

Not too difficult to explain that one. Because I'm a villager. No role to reveal.

mauchow · 06-14-2011, 02:01 PM

Sorry autumn I'm sure I've quoted my pm word for word by now. Villager villager villager. LOL

JAG · 06-14-2011, 02:07 PM

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Originally Posted by mauboy1

I'm a plain villager. All I was saying is I'm going to kick some ass this game with my gut feelings. I've already highlighted lots of posts for myself when I get home later.

No reveals from me this game.

Do you think I'm a wolf making a play to try and vote off a villager or a villager making too much out of something that turns out to be nothing?

Just curious, I'm not the only one pointing stuff out and surely if you're a villager it wouldn't be surprising if a wolf was only all too eager to jump on board the train of thought I outlined.

mauchow · 06-14-2011, 02:13 PM

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Originally Posted by JAG

Do you think I'm a wolf making a play to try and vote off a villager or a villager making too much out of something that turns out to be nothing?

Just curious, I'm not the only one pointing stuff out and surely if you're a villager it wouldn't be surprising if a wolf was only all too eager to jump on board the train of thought I outlined.

At this point going into where I'm at with my thoughts and reads would alter the rest of the day. I'll hold off on saying anything until deadline if I'm getting lynched.

I hope that's good enough for ya.

Zinto · 06-14-2011, 02:19 PM

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Originally Posted by mauboy1

At this point going into where I'm at with my thoughts and reads would alter the rest of the day. I'll hold off on saying anything until deadline if I'm getting lynched.

I hope that's good enough for ya.

You are not helping your case to be honest Mau. If you are lynched we will have no idea if you are a wolf or a villager and thus must take your analysis with a grain of salt. Also hurting your analysis will be the fact that if you are a villager it is easy to get knee jerky with your reaction when people vote for you.

mauchow · 06-14-2011, 02:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Zinto

You are not helping your case to be honest Mau. If you are lynched we will have no idea if you are a wolf or a villager and thus must take your analysis with a grain of salt. Also hurting your analysis will be the fact that if you are a villager it is easy to get knee jerky with your reaction when people vote for you.

You will know what I am by tomorrow night if the priest still lives. That's why I don't mind waiting til deadline. Take it with a grain of salt I don't care..it should be because its not solid evidence..just reads. Everyone is acting like I somehow knew all allegiances and revealing that it was me that actually created this game not autumn.

mauchow · 06-14-2011, 02:27 PM

That last sentence didn't make the greatest sentence but you get the gist of it.

mauchow · 06-14-2011, 02:28 PM

Sentence-sense...

The phone is not treating me well today.

Chubby · 06-14-2011, 02:28 PM

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Originally Posted by mauboy1

You will know what I am by tomorrow night if the priest still lives. That's why I don't mind waiting til deadline. Take it with a grain of salt I don't care..it should be because its not solid evidence..just reads. Everyone is acting like I somehow knew all allegiances and revealing that it was me that actually created this game not autumn.

We will? I don't know if I'm in favor of the priest or seer for that matter revealing tomorrow, I know it was mentioned earlier in the thread and is a discussion for another day but I seriously doubt we will know what you are tomorrow if you are lynched today.

Chubby · 06-14-2011, 02:29 PM

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Originally Posted by mauboy1

Sentence-sense...

The phone is not treating me well today.

Did your phone not read the rules last game?

Autumn · 06-14-2011, 02:33 PM

chubby - bhlloy (52)
packerfanatic - spleen1015 (51)
jag - Chubby (48)
bhlloy - mauboy1 (56), Zinto (78)
Mauboy1 - JAG (86), PackerFanatic (88), Narcizo (89)

Autumn · 06-14-2011, 02:33 PM

I'm out for a number of hours. Have fun, boys.

mauchow · 06-14-2011, 02:42 PM

When I get home..rather than waiting til deadline I'll make my thoughts known sooner. It'd be dumb not to let everyone know sooner. Sorry. Like I say give me until I get home

Narcizo · 06-14-2011, 02:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Chubby

We will? I don't know if I'm in favor of the priest or seer for that matter revealing tomorrow, I know it was mentioned earlier in the thread and is a discussion for another day but I seriously doubt we will know what you are tomorrow if you are lynched today.

Unless the person lynched is a wolf. Then I think it's definitely worth the priest revealing.

Narcizo · 06-14-2011, 03:19 PM

Anyway, got to go. Wish I could be around to see how things pan out. But I can't. Hope to see you tomorrow.

Chubby · 06-14-2011, 04:15 PM

in an effort to condense the conversation...

unvote JAG
vote bhlloy

bhlloy · 06-14-2011, 04:16 PM

Didn't want a runaway on Mau, but this is clearly my best option at this point, for self defense and because I think it's the right vote given what has gone down today

Unvote Chubby
Vote Mauboy

Chubby · 06-14-2011, 04:20 PM

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Originally Posted by bhlloy

Didn't want a runaway on Mau, but this is clearly my best option at this point, for self defense and because I think it's the right vote given what has gone down today

Unvote Chubby
Vote Mauboy

yeah I'm not against mauboy being lynched either, i just don't think it's beneficial to have straggler votes out there. Hopefully it leads us to conversation that will make it easier to discern if one of you are a wolf

bhlloy · 06-14-2011, 04:21 PM

I was looking hard at jumping to JAG if you had stayed there, just to get some votes that weren't on Mau, but you forced my hand. And I just can't get over the fact that his play today is completely bizarre.

Zinto · 06-14-2011, 04:26 PM

Chubby's move makes my life easier since I was coming on to decide if I should move my vote to condense the voting.

mauchow · 06-14-2011, 04:58 PM

Based on reactions, gut feelings, etc I'm pretty confident that bhlloy is one of the wolves.

My instinct once he voted chubby was not really concerning initially but his responses to me sound wolfish. My vote is staying where it is on bhlloy.

If there is a tie I am going to vote for myself to you guys that I am a villager and so that the priest can scan the night kill instead.

mauchow · 06-14-2011, 04:59 PM

To prove to everyone. Hating the phone today.

Chubby · 06-14-2011, 05:07 PM

how are you going to be able to prove to everyone that you are a villager when you are dead?

JAG · 06-14-2011, 05:08 PM

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Originally Posted by bhlloy

I was looking hard at jumping to JAG if you had stayed there, just to get some votes that weren't on Mau, but you forced my hand. And I just can't get over the fact that his play today is completely bizarre.

Why me vs. PF?

bhlloy · 06-14-2011, 05:11 PM

Would have considered PF as well but at this point it's a clear 2 horse race

JAG · 06-14-2011, 05:28 PM

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Originally Posted by mauboy1

Based on reactions, gut feelings, etc I'm pretty confident that bhlloy is one of the wolves.

My instinct once he voted chubby was not really concerning initially but his responses to me sound wolfish. My vote is staying where it is on bhlloy.

If there is a tie I am going to vote for myself to you guys that I am a villager and so that the priest can scan the night kill instead.

Did you have any other observations?

mauchow · 06-14-2011, 06:30 PM

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Originally Posted by JAG

Did you have any other observations?

With bhlloy bringing up my other candidate as a possibility I'm wavering on which of the two has played more like a wolf so far - which is obviously tough to do on day one. But my two candidates were bhlloy and PF.

My mom just showed up at home not long ago so if I can add more soon I will do so.

Voting me out is fine, like I said, to show some sacrifice to the village, I will vote myself in the event of a tie (I will break the tie and kill myself) so that the priest can scan the NK so that we know who died in the NK rather than me, a plain villager.

JAG · 06-14-2011, 07:46 PM

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Originally Posted by mauboy1

Based on reactions, gut feelings, etc I'm pretty confident that bhlloy is one of the wolves.

My instinct once he voted chubby was not really concerning initially but his responses to me sound wolfish. My vote is staying where it is on bhlloy.

If there is a tie I am going to vote for myself to you guys that I am a villager and so that the priest can scan the night kill instead.

Do you realize longest-held vote is the tie-breaker? If you think bhlloy is a wolf, why would you vote yourself out instead of him in the event of a tie? It's also unfortunate the player you suggest as a wolf happens to be the closest to you in votes, making your observation seem rather self-serving (even if I don't necessarily disagree with you).

And there is no way scanning the NK instead of the lynch makes sense. Scanning the lynch will give us the most potentially useful voting info, and the most important info of all, whether the player we lynch is a wolf or not (we already know the NK is not).

If you're a villager, you're not advocating good strategy for us. I am not convinced of your wolfishness, but I also don't have a better candidate.

PackerFanatic · 06-14-2011, 07:56 PM

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Originally Posted by JAG

If you're a villager, you're not advocating good strategy for us. I am not convinced of your wolfishness, but I also don't have a better candidate.

My thoughts of the afternoon summed up perfectly.

mauchow · 06-14-2011, 07:57 PM

Well, I have a feeling one of you two will be switching because deep down inside you know I'm not a wolf, regardless of my actions. I'm not going to be this active at the beginning as a wolf unless my actions required. I started active in this game and now I'm having to be more active thanks to sticking my foot in my mouth yet again.

Autumn · 06-14-2011, 08:13 PM

packerfanatic - spleen1015 (51)
bhlloy - mauboy1 (56), Zinto (78), Chubby (128)
Mauboy1 - JAG (86), PackerFanatic (88), Narcizo (89), bhlloy (129)

mauchow · 06-14-2011, 08:16 PM

YEah, not a whole lot of logic being thrown around by me today, eh? Breaking a tie, etc. Didn't read the tie breaking rules. Anyway.

If I die tonight just remember that I am 100% a villager and a plain one so nothing is lost here.

mauchow · 06-14-2011, 08:17 PM

And I would still recommend to scan the NK despite what others may think. If you believe me scan the NK if you don't, go ahead and scan me to ensure you know who you lynched.

mauchow · 06-14-2011, 08:18 PM

If you scan me and find out I'm the plain villager I am the night killed person may not get scanned ever and may actually be a role we'd want to know (seer, sorcerer).

mauchow · 06-14-2011, 08:36 PM

The more and more I think about it - the night kill should be the scan but again I keep thinking from my perspective so I may not be thinking completely straight. But I just keep going back to that the wolves may get lucky and kill the seer and eventually be able to pull out the seer card and seal the game. I'm obviously not the seer or I would have revealed long ago.

Zinto · 06-14-2011, 08:38 PM

That would be the only concern. That a role would be killed off and the priest would not know. I think the lynch victim should be scanned but I guess it is up for the Priest to decide.

mauchow · 06-14-2011, 08:57 PM

gl village

Autumn · 06-14-2011, 09:02 PM

Deadline

The village decides that Mauboy1 is the one behind the recent savage murders. He is brought to the gallows and lynched. Night falls.

06-14-2011, 01:48 PM	#104
JAG Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: St. Paul, MN	I also agree with Packer's comment that adding a 4th candidate was not a good strategic move when the wolves are better able to control the vote with a more spread-out vote.

06-14-2011, 01:49 PM	#106
spleen1015 Coordinator Join Date: Sep 2003	I just think he's trying to get people to not vote for him by saying he'll have something of value if he lives.

06-14-2011, 01:56 PM	#111
mauchow Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Murfreesboro, TN	Jesus another misinterpretation. Fair enough on the adding forth candidate but I liked the idea because it will cause some last minute moves by people once the score goes 3-2-2-2. The analasys that comes after is what I think would prove to be most valuable. My biggest problem is that I am typing on a phone and try explaining things in too few words because it takes forever. I can explain things more easily on a computer but... shrug.that's the way it goes sometimes.

06-14-2011, 02:01 PM	#114
mauchow Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Murfreesboro, TN	Sorry autumn I'm sure I've quoted my pm word for word by now. Villager villager villager. LOL

06-14-2011, 02:27 PM	#119
mauchow Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Murfreesboro, TN	That last sentence didn't make the greatest sentence but you get the gist of it.

06-14-2011, 02:28 PM	#120
mauchow Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Murfreesboro, TN	Sentence-sense... The phone is not treating me well today.

06-14-2011, 02:33 PM	#123
Autumn Head Coach Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Bath, ME	chubby - bhlloy (52) packerfanatic - spleen1015 (51) jag - Chubby (48) bhlloy - mauboy1 (56), Zinto (78) Mauboy1 - JAG (86), PackerFanatic (88), Narcizo (89)

06-14-2011, 02:33 PM	#124
Autumn Head Coach Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Bath, ME	I'm out for a number of hours. Have fun, boys.

06-14-2011, 02:42 PM	#125
mauchow Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Murfreesboro, TN	When I get home..rather than waiting til deadline I'll make my thoughts known sooner. It'd be dumb not to let everyone know sooner. Sorry. Like I say give me until I get home

06-14-2011, 03:19 PM	#127
Narcizo Pro Rookie Join Date: Jan 2006	Anyway, got to go. Wish I could be around to see how things pan out. But I can't. Hope to see you tomorrow.

06-14-2011, 04:15 PM	#128
Chubby Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Syracuse, NY	in an effort to condense the conversation... unvote JAG vote bhlloy

06-14-2011, 04:16 PM	#129
bhlloy Coordinator Join Date: Nov 2003	Didn't want a runaway on Mau, but this is clearly my best option at this point, for self defense and because I think it's the right vote given what has gone down today Unvote Chubby Vote Mauboy

06-14-2011, 04:21 PM	#131
bhlloy Coordinator Join Date: Nov 2003	I was looking hard at jumping to JAG if you had stayed there, just to get some votes that weren't on Mau, but you forced my hand. And I just can't get over the fact that his play today is completely bizarre.

06-14-2011, 04:26 PM	#132
Zinto College Starter Join Date: Jan 2011	Chubby's move makes my life easier since I was coming on to decide if I should move my vote to condense the voting.

06-14-2011, 04:58 PM	#133
mauchow Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Murfreesboro, TN	Based on reactions, gut feelings, etc I'm pretty confident that bhlloy is one of the wolves. My instinct once he voted chubby was not really concerning initially but his responses to me sound wolfish. My vote is staying where it is on bhlloy. If there is a tie I am going to vote for myself to you guys that I am a villager and so that the priest can scan the night kill instead.

06-14-2011, 04:59 PM	#134
mauchow Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Murfreesboro, TN	To prove to everyone. Hating the phone today.

06-14-2011, 05:07 PM	#135
Chubby Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Syracuse, NY	how are you going to be able to prove to everyone that you are a villager when you are dead?

06-14-2011, 05:11 PM	#137
bhlloy Coordinator Join Date: Nov 2003	Would have considered PF as well but at this point it's a clear 2 horse race

06-14-2011, 07:57 PM	#142
mauchow Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Murfreesboro, TN	Well, I have a feeling one of you two will be switching because deep down inside you know I'm not a wolf, regardless of my actions. I'm not going to be this active at the beginning as a wolf unless my actions required. I started active in this game and now I'm having to be more active thanks to sticking my foot in my mouth yet again.

06-14-2011, 08:13 PM	#143
Autumn Head Coach Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Bath, ME	packerfanatic - spleen1015 (51) bhlloy - mauboy1 (56), Zinto (78), Chubby (128) Mauboy1 - JAG (86), PackerFanatic (88), Narcizo (89), bhlloy (129)

06-14-2011, 08:16 PM	#144
mauchow Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Murfreesboro, TN	YEah, not a whole lot of logic being thrown around by me today, eh? Breaking a tie, etc. Didn't read the tie breaking rules. Anyway. If I die tonight just remember that I am 100% a villager and a plain one so nothing is lost here.

06-14-2011, 08:17 PM	#145
mauchow Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Murfreesboro, TN	And I would still recommend to scan the NK despite what others may think. If you believe me scan the NK if you don't, go ahead and scan me to ensure you know who you lynched.

06-14-2011, 08:18 PM	#146
mauchow Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Murfreesboro, TN	If you scan me and find out I'm the plain villager I am the night killed person may not get scanned ever and may actually be a role we'd want to know (seer, sorcerer).

06-14-2011, 08:36 PM	#147
mauchow Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Murfreesboro, TN	The more and more I think about it - the night kill should be the scan but again I keep thinking from my perspective so I may not be thinking completely straight. But I just keep going back to that the wolves may get lucky and kill the seer and eventually be able to pull out the seer card and seal the game. I'm obviously not the seer or I would have revealed long ago.

06-14-2011, 08:38 PM	#148
Zinto College Starter Join Date: Jan 2011	That would be the only concern. That a role would be killed off and the priest would not know. I think the lynch victim should be scanned but I guess it is up for the Priest to decide.

06-14-2011, 08:57 PM	#149
mauchow Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Murfreesboro, TN	gl village

06-14-2011, 09:02 PM	#150
Autumn Head Coach Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Bath, ME	Deadline The village decides that Mauboy1 is the one behind the recent savage murders. He is brought to the gallows and lynched. Night falls.

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