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I would definitely argue that in "Moulin Rouge" the actors feel much more like they are actually singing the songs than on Glee (However, my wife is sitting next to me saying I'm completely wrong). Certainly older musicals such as Bye Bye Birdie, West Side Story and Wizard of Oz are not overproduced to where you feel like they are lip synching to a radio version of a song. Glee feels much more like a music video than a musical to me.
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Your wife is right, btw . In "Moulin Rouge!" you basically had modern music production. However, a lot of the songs were mash ups, so maybe that's why it felt like they were more singing the songs.
And in modern musicals, the showtunes definitely have high production values (see "Wicked" or "Jersey Boys" or "Avenue Q" or, even, "Spamalot").
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If you're talking stage musicals I definitely can't get behind you -- they may have high production values, but it doesn't look like a music video as Glee does.
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Mostly because you aren't watching them on TV .
If anything they are far more highly produced than anything Glee has done.
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Just watched the first 2 episodes on hulu. It's an alright show, though not as good as I expected it would be, based on word-of-mouth. I'm not sure it's a compelling enough general plot to have legs, either, but we'll see. I've got it set to record on my DVR for the next couple episodes, I have a feeling I'll lose interest.
Are they lip-sync'ing in the show (I assume they are). If they are, they should teach those kids what shapes peoples' mouths make when they're actually singing. They're really off. /tk
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Well they are lip-syncing to themselves. So I'm sure they know the shapes made when people are singing .
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But it's like when they're lip-sync'ing, they're saying the words as opposed to singing. I can't describe it, but when you hear certain sounds, you expect the mouth to look a certain way...more "rounded" is what I can come up with... The singing is fine (though I'm actually kind of tired of it), but it's like their lip sync's are them saying the words instead of singing. It's a total nitpick, but kept driving me bonkers. Anyway, for me, I estimate that unless things turn around with the show in general, I'll be bored with it in 2-3 more episodes, with or without mouths moving in more intuitive ways. /tk
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I'm guessing that those who weren't fans of "music video" like musical numbers will really not like the direction is the show is heading (personally, I'm a fan) .
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They aren't developing any story lines. I wish they'd slow down and narrow the focus instead of coming up with so many different sub-plots.
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Well, I think this episode was a focus on the other major characters we introduced episode. This was a Mercedes and Kurt focused episode. That and we saw the loyalty of Finn to Will.
And we saw a new side of Quinn at the end as well.
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And the whole Accafellas. And Josh Grobin. And his father. And the choreographer.
It' not that any of them are bad, but they're blowing through ideas at a really fast pace. I already felt like the dialogue wasn't equal to the first two episodes. Can they sustain this volume of plot for a whole season?
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Acafellas is over (obviously). So is Grobin. The father was there to kind of cement the theme of confidence, which I'm sure will carry over into the Glee club. The choregrapher is also a one shot.
So I'm not sure I'd necessarily consider them "sub-plots", but more of a one episode deal (which is different, IMO). Also you need a few things in there to change things up because a straight march to Regionals (which undoubtedly be the season finale) may get boring.
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The syncing was bad for the big music-video song, but other than that it was fun. I think they're developing characters and stories well so far. The head cheerleader is not totally with that cheerleader training person, The main guy's wife is noticing that OCD girl has a thing for her husband, The gay guy and black girl have developed a nice friendship (he came out to her so I assume he must trust her). Digging a deeper hole for the pregnancy. There might have been more, but those are the plot/character points I can remember.
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Stoopid question....
Is Glee's Kevin McHale (the kid in the wheelchair) related to the Boston Celtic's Kevin McHale???
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09-17-2009, 05:37 PM | #118 |
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Doesn't appear that we aren't the only ones that think the music is a little over the top...
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Just watched this episode.
meh. My standards for TV shows are pretty low and have stuck with a lot of subpar dramas, but... I'm not sure how long this one will last...
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I'm watching one more episode... But I'm starting to think maybe I should catch back up with Heroes instead of even watch this show... Or maybe start watching Mad Men.
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Victor Garber plays Will's dad and considering his singing ability I'm 100% positive he will be on the show more.
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And due to early ratings and critical acclaim, "Glee" gets a full season order (up from the original 13 episodes):
Breaking: 'Glee' renewed for full season | Ausiello | EW.com
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More plot driven and less music than last week. I think some of the "overproduced" crowd would have liked this episode actually. The football team dancing to Beyonce at the game was HILARIOUS (though sooo false start-ish).
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I didnt love the first and third episode, loved the 2nd, and this one was a lot closer to the 2nd...good episode, some good laughs, mixed in with a little plot progression i found meh
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Not sure I'd necessarily call it "little" plot progression . Lot of stuff happened.
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Oh i agree with that, but the scenes just feel so out of place...I get why they have the son come out to the father, but it just feels forced in the context of the rest of the show. They need to find a better way to transition into the sappy moments, as right now they just don't fit into the show in my eyes. Were going laugh, laugh, laugh, laugh, then just out of the blue serious dramatic moment. For a show that is so over the top in its comedy, i think its just tough to suddenly go back to serious without some kind of transition they are lacking.
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I enjoyed this past episode, but the football team dancing during a game was an "oh no" moment for me. Wasn't a big fan of that but overall a good episode.
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Caught up on the first few episodes that I had PVR'd and was pretty underwhelmed.
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I only saw half of this week's episode but I know I'm done.
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Kristen Chenowith on tonight's episode ... loved her on Pushing Daisies ... I would imagine she will sing ... Thought the 4th episode was the second best to the pilot so far ...
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Sad for the end of "Pushing Daisies" (my fav show on TV when it was canceled), but happy to see Chenowith .
I think "Glee" is the closest thing to a spiritual heir to "Pushing Daisies".
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Yeah the scene with her and Michelle Lea (Rachel) singing together was fantastic ... loved the end too
Liked it when Puck was talking about Rachel and said "Yeah I'd like to set that girl on fire but she can sing" ....
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Just watched it (DVR FTW!). Absolutely brilliant episode. Chenowith was phenomenal and that first number with the April/Rachel performance and the April/Will performance of "Alone" was just jawdropping. Some great one liners as well: "I was aroused... and furious"
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Still watching and liking this. The mashups sounded great.
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Boys did better though... and Finn singing while high was teh awesome.
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the Sue Sylvester character totally makes this show
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There are so many different "characters", like Sue, Emma, Rachel, Sandy, etc... that it's like a USA show (ie, characters welcome).
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I still enjoy it.
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Some great lines in this one:
"I was going to come to your office, but I don't know where it is" And the Cheerio who misspelled her own name, LOL! Great musical numbers as well, & the final one was really well done.
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Yeah I thought this was a very solid episode, probably my favourite since the pilot. I like that No Air song a lot.
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Tonight's was the best episode I've seen. I can see where some folks are saying "too much music", but I'm wanting to see where they take it. There is a balance, and they need to get better at making the musical segues/interludes. As they get a better feel for what works and what doesn't, I think they will fit in more. If that makes sense.
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Some folks are saying "too much music"? The show is a musical!
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Great episode this week, I like how it took a little more serious of a turn.
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Love the show, the randomness reminds me of Seinfeld for '09.
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The deaf song gave me goosebumps and a nice feeling, it was so awesome.
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I thought it was cool that they added the little touch that all the students were just a bit behind on their signing because they were watching the deaf kids.
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