Werewolf LXIII - Fall of the Elementals (Game Over - Avatars Win!) - Page 3

saldana · 12-12-2007, 04:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Lathum

he doesn't play nearly as much anymore. He would rather spend more time with his daughters. Sap.

well i certainly dont spend any time talking to you on the phone since you never call a brother back!

saldana · 12-12-2007, 05:13 PM

anyway, yes i am playing, and i will be holding back my vote (as i usually do on day 1) to make sure that i there is no stupid tie, and in case i need it to save my own ass (do elementals have asses?)

saldana · 12-12-2007, 05:15 PM

dola, i am also rather interested to see what the hell it takes for us to kill an avatar...in the first elementals game, in order to be killed, an elemental needed to be lynched twice...if avatars are stronger than elementals, we could have our work cut out for us.

Coffee Warlord · 12-12-2007, 05:28 PM

Count before I go home from work.

Passa 2
Jeheinz 1
path12 1
SnDvls 1
PurdueBrad 1
Swaggs 1
Saldana 1

st.cronin · 12-12-2007, 05:30 PM

I was going to vote hoopsguy in an effort to put that ridiculous streak of his to bed. But there's already too many guys with votes. So, here goes:

VOTE SNDVLS

Coffee Warlord · 12-12-2007, 05:46 PM

By the way. Ties are handled in a special way. No, I'm not going to tell you.

Barkeep49 · 12-12-2007, 06:29 PM

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Originally Posted by st.cronin

I was going to vote hoopsguy in an effort to put that ridiculous streak of his to bed. But there's already too many guys with votes. So, here goes:

VOTE SNDVLS

Hey I like the idea of ending hoops' streak. In fact I was going to vote for hoops when I asked for the vote count and chickened out.

Vote hoopsguy

Hopefully cronin comes back and sees this.

Schmidty · 12-12-2007, 06:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Barkeep49

Hey I like the idea of ending hoops' streak. In fact I was going to vote for hoops when I asked for the vote count and chickened out.

Vote hoopsguy

Hopefully cronin comes back and sees this.

Ok, I'm on board.

Unvote Swaggs

Vote hoops

Passacaglia · 12-12-2007, 06:41 PM

I was about to ask, "but what if he's a wolf?" I guess that's a stupid question, though, huh?

st.cronin · 12-12-2007, 06:49 PM

Well, I have a philosophy of not changing my day 1 vote unless there is some important info released, or if a tie needs breaking. So my vote will stand for now.

Schmidty · 12-12-2007, 06:58 PM

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Originally Posted by st.cronin

Well, I have a philosophy of not changing my day 1 vote unless there is some important info released, or if a tie needs breaking. So my vote will stand for now.

Holy crap. I'm disappointed. How lame and cowardly.

Barkeep49 · 12-12-2007, 07:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Schmidty

Holy crap. I'm disappointed. How lame and cowardly.

I know. Seriously.

saldana · 12-12-2007, 07:39 PM

so we have hoops, sndvls, and pass all with 2

i dont really like any of those choices.

Swaggs · 12-12-2007, 07:42 PM

I was thinking of hoops, b/c I'm guessing folks wouldn't obviously align themselves against someone, on the first day, if they were doing something strategic.

But, usually hoops is pretty helpful as a villager, so I'm just going to pick randomly:

Vote claphamsa

Schmidty · 12-12-2007, 07:43 PM

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Originally Posted by saldana

so we have hoops, sndvls, and pass all with 2

i dont really like any of those choices.

So vote for yourself, and then we'll have 4 with 2......

st.cronin · 12-12-2007, 07:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Schmidty

Holy crap. I'm disappointed. How lame and cowardly.

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Originally Posted by Barkeep49

I know. Seriously.

Well, fear not: If we're still tied 20 minutes or so from deadline, I'll move my vote.

SnDvls · 12-12-2007, 07:49 PM

I too will move my vote if I'm tied with someone and it determines a lynch..FYI

hoopsguy · 12-12-2007, 08:08 PM

I guess ending my streak is as good a reason to vote for me as any. Of course, the streak is predicated on me being a villager! So why would villagers want to end my streak of not dying as a villager?

If you think I'm a wolf/avatar, then vote for me. But to end my streak you have to vote for a villager/elemental. That will be the case here, but the rest of the villagers/elementals should probably have better reasons for voting other than this, right?

Right?

SnDvls · 12-12-2007, 08:10 PM

unvote jheintz]
vote pass

self preservation

Schmidty · 12-12-2007, 08:12 PM

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Originally Posted by st.cronin

Well, fear not: If we're still tied 20 minutes or so from deadline, I'll move my vote.

You that by "lame and cowardly", I actually mean "handsome and dashing", right?

saldana · 12-12-2007, 08:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Swaggs

I was thinking of hoops, b/c I'm guessing folks wouldn't obviously align themselves against someone, on the first day, if they were doing something strategic.

But, usually hoops is pretty helpful as a villager, so I'm just going to pick randomly:

Vote claphamsa

with 5 people on the board already as candidates, why would you pick someone entirely new? how does that help solve anything?

hoopsguy · 12-12-2007, 08:14 PM

We've got a little more time before self-preservation mode kicks into play - I'm still hoping for something in the ballpark of a good reason to cast my vote.

For those who take notes on this type of thing, SnDvls cast his self-preservation vote on Pass instead of me. That would have more meaning if it were closer to the deadline, but at face value it suggests that they are not both Avatars. Otherwise, he would choose me rather than a teammate in a tie race that is starting to creep up on the deadline.

hoopsguy · 12-12-2007, 08:15 PM

Vote count, as of Post #122:
Pass - 3
Hoops - 2
SnDvls - 2
Path - 1
Sald - 1
Clap - 1

hoopsguy · 12-12-2007, 08:17 PM

Dola - I'll go and track down the vote post numbers.

Just as an aside, how many people actually go back and reference old votes in terms of actually reading the posts? I'm wondering if this is something that I'm doing more for my own benefit, or if other people are doing the same type of post-dredging that I do later in games. Mostly, I'm curious to see if others are willing to admit to wasting as much time with over-analysis as I do with these games

hoopsguy · 12-12-2007, 08:21 PM

Votes as of Post #124 (better list):
Pass - Lathum (68), Clap (77), SnDvls (119)
Hoops - BK (107), Schmidty (108)
SnDvls - Purdue (79), Cronin (105)
Purdue - Path (90)
Saldana - MrW (93)
Clap - Swaggs (114)
Path - JEH (76)

st.cronin · 12-12-2007, 08:22 PM

Hoops, I use vote analysis pretty heavily in most of my games, although I don't always post what I see (since I'm tired of being told "votes don't mean a thing"). I don't look at what is said as much as I look at what the actual votes are, though.

hoopsguy · 12-12-2007, 08:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Schmidty

You that by "lame and cowardly", I actually mean "handsome and dashing", right?

Just for the record, as someone who initially voted for Swaggs, why are you now campaigning for people to vote for me?

If it is random, then why do you care where the vote ends up? If it isn't random, I don't have many explanations for it that would look good for you.

Schmidty · 12-12-2007, 08:24 PM

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Originally Posted by hoopsguy

Just for the record, as someone who initially voted for Swaggs, why are you now campaigning for people to vote for me?

If it is random, then why do you care where the vote ends up? If it isn't random, I don't have many explanations for it that would look good for you.

I give up.

hoopsguy · 12-12-2007, 08:27 PM

I'll settle for an unvote

hoopsguy · 12-12-2007, 08:28 PM

Seriously, I'm trying to understand the thought process if it isn't entirely whimsical.

hoopsguy · 12-12-2007, 08:32 PM

By the way, what is the sign for today? Yak, Trout, Squid, or Rhino?

Or does that fun begin on Day 2?

File this under "How the hell has this question not been asked yet?"

saldana · 12-12-2007, 08:32 PM

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Originally Posted by hoopsguy

Dola - I'll go and track down the vote post numbers.

Just as an aside, how many people actually go back and reference old votes in terms of actually reading the posts? I'm wondering if this is something that I'm doing more for my own benefit, or if other people are doing the same type of post-dredging that I do later in games. Mostly, I'm curious to see if others are willing to admit to wasting as much time with over-analysis as I do with these games

i like to have the numbers because i like to see the order in which the votes were cast. for example, there is alot more meaning, imo, when someone votes for a brand new person at the end of the day, basically making a total throwaway when there is a 3 way tie going on, than there is to someone making a random selection at the beginning of the day.

saldana · 12-12-2007, 08:33 PM

i believe today is a squid day

Schmidty · 12-12-2007, 08:35 PM

PLEASE TAKE ME OUT TO DINNER AND A MOVIE BEFORE TRYING TO MIND-F*CK ME, HOOPS!!!! LOBSTER AND A LONG ISLAND ICED TEA WITH AN UMBRELLA IN IT!!!!

st.cronin · 12-12-2007, 08:35 PM

There was a picture of a squid posted on page 1, I assumed that was the sign of the day.

Schmidty · 12-12-2007, 08:36 PM

Dola. I have no idea why to vote for you other than the fact that you are better at WW than me (as is everyone else), so I would be a tiny bit less afraid of being dominated if your weren't around.

But I like you as a person!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

hoopsguy · 12-12-2007, 08:36 PM

Ah, see it is Post #39 - I didn't look back to the stuff from yesterday, just the stuff today when I thought we were officially underway. Thanks.

path12 · 12-12-2007, 08:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hoopsguy

Dola - I'll go and track down the vote post numbers.

Just as an aside, how many people actually go back and reference old votes in terms of actually reading the posts? I'm wondering if this is something that I'm doing more for my own benefit, or if other people are doing the same type of post-dredging that I do later in games. Mostly, I'm curious to see if others are willing to admit to wasting as much time with over-analysis as I do with these games

I'll fess up to doing just that. I don't take notes as well as I'd like, so oftentimes end up doing post recaps on people I find suspicious.

path12 · 12-12-2007, 08:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hoopsguy

By the way, what is the sign for today? Yak, Trout, Squid, or Rhino?

It's squid. There was a picture and everything.

hoopsguy · 12-12-2007, 08:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Schmidty

I would be a tiny bit less afraid of being dominated if your weren't around.

(Directs best Obi-Wan voice at Schmidty) - I'm not the Avatar you are looking for.

Come to think of it, that would be a pretty cool power to have in this game.

path12 · 12-12-2007, 08:42 PM

Who hasn't voted? I see JE and saldana haven't, there should be two more.

saldana · 12-12-2007, 08:42 PM

vote hoopsguy

saldana · 12-12-2007, 08:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hoopsguy

(Directs best Obi-Wan voice at Schmidty) - I'm not the Avatar you are looking for.

Come to think of it, that would be a pretty cool power to have in this game.

wrong game.

path12 · 12-12-2007, 08:42 PM

Oh, and neither has Pass. I'm missing someone.

Schmidty · 12-12-2007, 08:43 PM

Gah!!!! What if he's good? I'm screwed.

I hate WW. If I switch and he's bad, I eventually am screwed. I have a 1 in 15 chance to not look like a jackass.

SnDvls · 12-12-2007, 08:43 PM

back from eating dinner

hoopsguy · 12-12-2007, 08:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by saldana

vote hoopsguy

Care to give me a reason, as long as we are both hanging out here?

This is going to force me to vote for Pass, unless there are some late-breaking changes. So if people really do want to see an elemental (you know, the villagers in this game?) bite it on Day 1, make sure to line up at least one more vote on me.

st.cronin · 12-12-2007, 08:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Schmidty

Gah!!!! What if he's good? I'm screwed.

I hate WW. If I switch and he's bad, I eventually am screwed. I have a 1 in 15 chance to not look like a jackass.

That's the point: If he's good, then Cal Ripken has finally been benched. Its a win-win.

hoopsguy · 12-12-2007, 08:45 PM

Path, I haven't voted yet. You can rest assured that I will be getting my vote in between now and the deadline.

hoopsguy · 12-12-2007, 08:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by st.cronin

That's the point: If he's good, then Cal Ripken has finally been benched. Its a win-win.

Well, only if you have different definitions of win than I do.

Win = getting a bad guy
Secondary Win = learning something from the vote by applying pressure to people that helps with later votes
Loss = losing a good guy
Tragic Loss = me dying as a villager, particularly to a Day 1 drive-by-shooting

12-12-2007, 05:30 PM	#105
st.cronin General Manager Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: New Mexico	I was going to vote hoopsguy in an effort to put that ridiculous streak of his to bed. But there's already too many guys with votes. So, here goes: VOTE SNDVLS __________________ co-commish: bb-bbcf.net knives out

12-12-2007, 06:49 PM	#110
st.cronin General Manager Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: New Mexico	Well, I have a philosophy of not changing my day 1 vote unless there is some important info released, or if a tie needs breaking. So my vote will stand for now. __________________ co-commish: bb-bbcf.net knives out

12-12-2007, 07:42 PM	#114
Swaggs Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000	I was thinking of hoops, b/c I'm guessing folks wouldn't obviously align themselves against someone, on the first day, if they were doing something strategic. But, usually hoops is pretty helpful as a villager, so I'm just going to pick randomly: Vote claphamsa __________________ DOWN WITH HATTRICK!!! The RWBL Are you reading In The Bleachers?

12-12-2007, 08:22 PM	#126
st.cronin General Manager Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: New Mexico	Hoops, I use vote analysis pretty heavily in most of my games, although I don't always post what I see (since I'm tired of being told "votes don't mean a thing"). I don't look at what is said as much as I look at what the actual votes are, though. __________________ co-commish: bb-bbcf.net knives out

12-12-2007, 08:35 PM	#135
st.cronin General Manager Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: New Mexico	There was a picture of a squid posted on page 1, I assumed that was the sign of the day. __________________ co-commish: bb-bbcf.net knives out

12-12-2007, 05:13 PM	#102
saldana Pro Starter Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Bethlehem, Pa	anyway, yes i am playing, and i will be holding back my vote (as i usually do on day 1) to make sure that i there is no stupid tie, and in case i need it to save my own ass (do elementals have asses?)

12-12-2007, 05:15 PM	#103
saldana Pro Starter Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Bethlehem, Pa	dola, i am also rather interested to see what the hell it takes for us to kill an avatar...in the first elementals game, in order to be killed, an elemental needed to be lynched twice...if avatars are stronger than elementals, we could have our work cut out for us.

12-12-2007, 05:28 PM	#104
Coffee Warlord Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Colorado Springs	Count before I go home from work. Passa 2 Jeheinz 1 path12 1 SnDvls 1 PurdueBrad 1 Swaggs 1 Saldana 1

12-12-2007, 05:46 PM	#106
Coffee Warlord Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Colorado Springs	By the way. Ties are handled in a special way. No, I'm not going to tell you.

12-12-2007, 06:41 PM	#109
Passacaglia Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Big Ten Country	I was about to ask, "but what if he's a wolf?" I guess that's a stupid question, though, huh?

12-12-2007, 07:39 PM	#113
saldana Pro Starter Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Bethlehem, Pa	so we have hoops, sndvls, and pass all with 2 i dont really like any of those choices.

12-12-2007, 07:49 PM	#117
SnDvls Pro Starter Join Date: Jul 2001	I too will move my vote if I'm tied with someone and it determines a lynch..FYI

12-12-2007, 08:08 PM	#118
hoopsguy General Manager Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Chicago	I guess ending my streak is as good a reason to vote for me as any. Of course, the streak is predicated on me being a villager! So why would villagers want to end my streak of not dying as a villager? If you think I'm a wolf/avatar, then vote for me. But to end my streak you have to vote for a villager/elemental. That will be the case here, but the rest of the villagers/elementals should probably have better reasons for voting other than this, right? Right?

12-12-2007, 08:10 PM	#119
SnDvls Pro Starter Join Date: Jul 2001	unvote jheintz] vote pass self preservation

12-12-2007, 08:14 PM	#122
hoopsguy General Manager Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Chicago	We've got a little more time before self-preservation mode kicks into play - I'm still hoping for something in the ballpark of a good reason to cast my vote. For those who take notes on this type of thing, SnDvls cast his self-preservation vote on Pass instead of me. That would have more meaning if it were closer to the deadline, but at face value it suggests that they are not both Avatars. Otherwise, he would choose me rather than a teammate in a tie race that is starting to creep up on the deadline.

12-12-2007, 08:15 PM	#123
hoopsguy General Manager Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Chicago	Vote count, as of Post #122: Pass - 3 Hoops - 2 SnDvls - 2 Path - 1 Sald - 1 Clap - 1

12-12-2007, 08:17 PM	#124
hoopsguy General Manager Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Chicago	Dola - I'll go and track down the vote post numbers. Just as an aside, how many people actually go back and reference old votes in terms of actually reading the posts? I'm wondering if this is something that I'm doing more for my own benefit, or if other people are doing the same type of post-dredging that I do later in games. Mostly, I'm curious to see if others are willing to admit to wasting as much time with over-analysis as I do with these games

12-12-2007, 08:21 PM	#125
hoopsguy General Manager Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Chicago	Votes as of Post #124 (better list): Pass - Lathum (68), Clap (77), SnDvls (119) Hoops - BK (107), Schmidty (108) SnDvls - Purdue (79), Cronin (105) Purdue - Path (90) Saldana - MrW (93) Clap - Swaggs (114) Path - JEH (76)

12-12-2007, 08:27 PM	#129
hoopsguy General Manager Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Chicago	I'll settle for an unvote

12-12-2007, 08:28 PM	#130
hoopsguy General Manager Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Chicago	Seriously, I'm trying to understand the thought process if it isn't entirely whimsical.

12-12-2007, 08:32 PM	#131
hoopsguy General Manager Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Chicago	By the way, what is the sign for today? Yak, Trout, Squid, or Rhino? Or does that fun begin on Day 2? File this under "How the hell has this question not been asked yet?"

12-12-2007, 08:33 PM	#133
saldana Pro Starter Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Bethlehem, Pa	i believe today is a squid day

12-12-2007, 08:35 PM	#134
Schmidty Coordinator Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Early, TX	PLEASE TAKE ME OUT TO DINNER AND A MOVIE BEFORE TRYING TO MIND-F*CK ME, HOOPS!!!! LOBSTER AND A LONG ISLAND ICED TEA WITH AN UMBRELLA IN IT!!!!

12-12-2007, 08:36 PM	#136
Schmidty Coordinator Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Early, TX	Dola. I have no idea why to vote for you other than the fact that you are better at WW than me (as is everyone else), so I would be a tiny bit less afraid of being dominated if your weren't around. But I like you as a person!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

12-12-2007, 08:36 PM	#137
hoopsguy General Manager Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Chicago	Ah, see it is Post #39 - I didn't look back to the stuff from yesterday, just the stuff today when I thought we were officially underway. Thanks.

12-12-2007, 08:42 PM	#141
path12 Coordinator Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Seattle, WA	Who hasn't voted? I see JE and saldana haven't, there should be two more. __________________ We have always been at war with Eastasia.

12-12-2007, 08:42 PM	#142
saldana Pro Starter Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Bethlehem, Pa	vote hoopsguy

12-12-2007, 08:42 PM	#144
path12 Coordinator Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Seattle, WA	Oh, and neither has Pass. I'm missing someone. __________________ We have always been at war with Eastasia.

12-12-2007, 08:43 PM	#145
Schmidty Coordinator Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Early, TX	Gah!!!! What if he's good? I'm screwed. I hate WW. If I switch and he's bad, I eventually am screwed. I have a 1 in 15 chance to not look like a jackass.

12-12-2007, 08:43 PM	#146
SnDvls Pro Starter Join Date: Jul 2001	back from eating dinner

12-12-2007, 08:45 PM	#149
hoopsguy General Manager Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Chicago	Path, I haven't voted yet. You can rest assured that I will be getting my vote in between now and the deadline.

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