The FOFC Mole Official Thread - Page 3

MJ4H · 08-13-2008, 12:21 PM

Your map pieces have been sent. I did forget to include which pieces were mapped by which tribes, so that information will be on a need to know basis only. If you need to know, just tell me. I'm sure we can work something out without breaking the bank.

Passacaglia · 08-13-2008, 12:26 PM

It looks like i've got the NE corner. Either that, or my region just happens to be crooked on the south and west sides, but perfectly straight on the north and east.

Barkeep49 · 08-13-2008, 12:27 PM

I have the upper right hand (NE) portion of the map.

Barkeep49 · 08-13-2008, 12:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Passacaglia

It looks like i've got the NE corner. Either that, or my region just happens to be crooked on the south and west sides, but perfectly straight on the north and east.

I'm making a similar assumption.

samifan24 · 08-13-2008, 12:28 PM

I believe I have the NW corner.

MJ4H · 08-13-2008, 12:42 PM

Incidentally, keeping a copy of the map piece on your hard drive is a good idea. A copy that you know the mole can't get to. Better safe than sorry.

Barkeep49 · 08-13-2008, 12:49 PM

So I have to guess that we have overlapping maps, adding another layer of complexity.

Barkeep49 · 08-13-2008, 12:49 PM

Anyone else have a the symbol of a piece of paper?

MJ4H · 08-13-2008, 12:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MJ4H

You will be given these pieces. They do not
overlap.

No overlapping.

samifan24 · 08-13-2008, 12:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Barkeep49

So I have to guess that we have overlapping maps, adding another layer of complexity.

Maybe you have to rotate your map piece. So if I think I have the NW corner, I might actually have the SW corner but rotated.

path12 · 08-13-2008, 12:58 PM

Kind of crazy at work today so I won't be around much until later, but if we've got two NE pieces I wonder if there are rotation issues?

Barkeep49 · 08-13-2008, 12:59 PM

That could be. That makes things a little easier. Can we adopt a letter/number system so that we can all be referring to common coordinates?

Passacaglia · 08-13-2008, 01:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MJ4H

Incidentally, keeping a copy of the map piece on your hard drive is a good idea. A copy that you know the mole can't get to. Better safe than sorry.

At first I was all, "He can't delete our PMs!" Then I realized the map was a link to MJ4H's web page. Done.

Thomkal · 08-13-2008, 03:20 PM

nasty host "forgetting" to tell us which tribe mapped the piece we got. Do we think knowing which tribe mapped our piece will help us any?

Anyone look at the minesweeper video? I saw my piece there and some others. My piece runs straight up 6 places, two boxes wide, then runs four rows to the left, one box wide on top and two rows to the left on the bottom, two boxes wide. That make any sense?

It looks like I might have four mines on my map if mines are circles with a dot on them, and two pieces of treasure if they look like a piece of paper.

BrianD · 08-13-2008, 03:36 PM

I've got something that looks like the SW corner.

BrianD · 08-13-2008, 03:47 PM

I would like to suggest that we describe the map using coordinates starting at the lower left corner. Let's use 1-10 going across the bottom, and A-J going up the side. So, the SW corner would be A1 and the NE corner would be J10.

My piece covers A1-F1, A2-F2, and A3-A5. I've also got 3 mines and a treasure. Once we get all the pieces together, I'm happy to go anywhere in the order. First, last, middle, anything is fine.

Edit: to make things more clear.

Passacaglia · 08-13-2008, 03:58 PM

Using Brian's sytem, I've got A3-A4, B2-B4, C1-C4, and D1-D4. I've got only circles and dots (probably mines), and no pieces of paper (probably treasure).

Passacaglia · 08-13-2008, 04:00 PM

Wait, I think I misunderstoond Brian's system -- one sec.

Passacaglia · 08-13-2008, 04:02 PM

Make mine C1-D1, B2-D2, A3-D3, and A4-D4.

Passacaglia · 08-13-2008, 04:03 PM

So Brian, yours is like two columns of six spaces each, then a row of three singles at the bottom?

BrianD · 08-13-2008, 04:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Passacaglia

So Brian, yours is like two columns of six spaces each, then a row of three singles at the bottom?

Exactly.

BrianD · 08-13-2008, 04:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Passacaglia

Make mine C1-D1, B2-D2, A3-D3, and A4-D4.

Take a look at my system again. You seem to have a lot of overlap to mine. Numbers going across, letters going up.

Passacaglia · 08-13-2008, 04:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BrianD

Take a look at my system again. You seem to have a lot of overlap to mine. Numbers going across, letters going up.

Oh -- I was just giving mine as if my piece were the entire graph, not trying to fit it anywhere in a 10x10 grid yet. Both BK and I seem to have an argument for being in the NE corner, so I didn't think about locking mine in there yet.

Basically, I have a 4x4 square, with the left two cut out of the bottom row, and the left one cut out from the row right above that.

kingnebwsu · 08-13-2008, 05:01 PM

That first mission has me freaked out on the rules. And I'm going to say something that may be stupid...but can we post the pictures of our maps in this thread? I read through the rules twice and I don't see anything forbidding us from posting the maps. I want to get confirmation from 2 players or MJ4H before I post my map in the thread (in case it gets us DQ'ed).

Wouldn't everything be much easier if we posted our maps in here and then worked as a group to assemble them into the actual map? Or am I just too burned out/tired from work to realize how this game is played? Thoughts?

Thomkal · 08-13-2008, 05:02 PM

Okay consider me confused. I don't know how you could know you have a corner piece or not. Mine could be a corner piece or it could go in the middle for all I know.

MJ4H · 08-13-2008, 05:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kingnebwsu

That first mission has me freaked out on the rules. And I'm going to say something that may be stupid...but can we post the pictures of our maps in this thread? I read through the rules twice and I don't see anything forbidding us from posting the maps. I want to get confirmation from 2 players or MJ4H before I post my map in the thread (in case it gets us DQ'ed).

Wouldn't everything be much easier if we posted our maps in here and then worked as a group to assemble them into the actual map? Or am I just too burned out/tired from work to realize how this game is played? Thoughts?

There is no rule against that.

Passacaglia · 08-13-2008, 05:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Thomkal

Okay consider me confused. I don't know how you could know you have a corner piece or not. Mine could be a corner piece or it could go in the middle for all I know.

I don't think we do -- some of us just think our pieces look like they should go there. Yours seems to look like it could go in either of two corners, based on those right angles, but it's all just guesses at this point.

kingnebwsu · 08-13-2008, 05:27 PM

BrianD · 08-13-2008, 05:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Passacaglia

Oh -- I was just giving mine as if my piece were the entire graph, not trying to fit it anywhere in a 10x10 grid yet. Both BK and I seem to have an argument for being in the NE corner, so I didn't think about locking mine in there yet.

Basically, I have a 4x4 square, with the left two cut out of the bottom row, and the left one cut out from the row right above that.

You are right, I shouldn't have worried about the overlap. None of us knows where our pieces go, so exact grid references are meaningless. Getting the shape out so we can piece them together is meaningful. Sorry for the misunderstanding.

Thomkal · 08-13-2008, 06:02 PM

path12 · 08-13-2008, 06:41 PM

Much easier this way, I think! Here's mine:

path12 · 08-13-2008, 06:41 PM

I think it's pretty clear these are not aligned properly. If that was covered earlier, sorry for the redundancy.

BrianD · 08-13-2008, 06:56 PM

Here is mine:

We might need to figure out who created these maps as they could be from their point of view.

Passacaglia · 08-13-2008, 08:08 PM

http://pwatts14.googlepages.com/ciuhcvre.jpg

MJ4H · 08-13-2008, 08:52 PM

I updated the first post of this thread with a fun little intro video to the whole game (The FOFC Mole, not just one of the missions). Might be fun to check it out. Just for fun. No clues are embedded in it, I promise. Other videos I make, no such promise.

samifan24 · 08-13-2008, 09:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MJ4H

I updated the first post of this thread with a fun little intro video to the whole game (The FOFC Mole, not just one of the missions). Might be fun to check it out. Just for fun. No clues are embedded in it, I promise. Other videos I make, no such promise.

Great job on the video. The more you talk about embedding clues, the more I am intrigued. The more you make this game like Lost, the better.

samifan24 · 08-13-2008, 11:29 PM

Barkeep49 · 08-14-2008, 07:42 AM

Barkeep49 · 08-14-2008, 07:43 AM

I'm going to suggest that path's piece fits inside of Thomkals.

Thomkal · 08-14-2008, 10:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Barkeep49

I'm going to suggest that path's piece fits inside of Thomkals.

I think so too Barkeep though I'm having a hard time flipping them around in my mind. And I think we should probably find out which tribe mapped one of our pieces so we have some idea of the orientation of our pieces.

samifan24 · 08-14-2008, 10:26 AM

Wow I'm not a visual learner so I'm having a lot of trouble with this one.

BrianD · 08-14-2008, 10:38 AM

OK all, I just counted all the pieces of the map and there are 100 squares identified. We have a complete map (minus the unlabeled spaces) in our 7 pieces. Now we just need to figure out how they go together.

As a side note for today: I'm probably going to be away from the computer from at least 2:30 until 9:00 tonight. Funeral services and such will be happening at that time.

path12 · 08-14-2008, 11:20 AM

Time to get out the graph paper methinks. I likely won't have much of a chance today though -- Ms.Path's birthday. Hopefully this afternoon I can get an hour or so.

BrianD · 08-14-2008, 01:36 PM

OK gang, I'll type up the instructions, I'm hoping someone can do the graphic work.

Start with samifan24 in the NW corner and connect with barkeep49 to the NE corner. They make the top of the map. Spin BrianD a quarter turn counter-clockwise and connect to the bottom of barkeep49 to make the SE corner. Give passacaglia a half turn and connect to me to make the SW corner. Pass doesn't connect to samifan24.

Thomkal goes adjacent to Barkeep49 and BrianD. Kingnebwsu gets a quarter turn clockwise and slides into the gap made by Thomkal's piece. Path12 gets a quarter turn clockwise and fits into the remaining space.

This should give us a full map. If anyone wants to create this picture, we can get started with our movement. Keep in mind that once the full map is in place, we still have to figure out which way to spin the full map.

MJ4H · 08-14-2008, 01:55 PM

Just to keep things on track, I would like to remind everyone that there are 5 unmapped mines, and 1 unmapped treasure (that is worth 25k instead of 10k like the others). Who knows what else you might find in there, too. Nothing besides the mines Ive mentioned is deadly, though. Anything that isn't a mine is good. For someone.

Remember also that just because something isn't mapped doesn't mean the information isn't out there.

Passacaglia · 08-14-2008, 02:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BrianD

OK gang, I'll type up the instructions, I'm hoping someone can do the graphic work.

Start with samifan24 in the NW corner and connect with barkeep49 to the NE corner. They make the top of the map. Spin BrianD a quarter turn counter-clockwise and connect to the bottom of barkeep49 to make the SE corner. Give passacaglia a half turn and connect to me to make the SW corner. Pass doesn't connect to samifan24.

Thomkal goes adjacent to Barkeep49 and BrianD. Kingnebwsu gets a quarter turn clockwise and slides into the gap made by Thomkal's piece. Path12 gets a quarter turn clockwise and fits into the remaining space.

This should give us a full map. If anyone wants to create this picture, we can get started with our movement. Keep in mind that once the full map is in place, we still have to figure out which way to spin the full map.

I'll give it a try this afternoon, if no one else does.

Barkeep49 · 08-14-2008, 02:10 PM

I can't really do the graphic work, but would suggest that we would want to enter the square on a potential mine so that we could try and figure out orientation. I think we want no one to pick up treasure until we've charted a safe path from the treasures to the village.

MJ4H · 08-14-2008, 02:15 PM

Another note of caution. Each player must exit the field via a different square. One safe path isn't enough.

Passacaglia · 08-14-2008, 02:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MJ4H

Another note of caution. Each player must exit the field via a different square. One safe path isn't enough.

Do we all need to make it to the other side, or is it just that all the treasure has to? Can we pass treasure from one person to the other? If so, do we need to be on the same square, or is adjacent squares okay?

MJ4H · 08-14-2008, 02:24 PM

Each person that makes it across with a treasure will add $ to the pot. Only one person will be in the field at a time.

08-13-2008, 12:28 PM	#105
samifan24 Pro Starter Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: NC	I believe I have the NW corner. __________________ "You spend a good piece of your life gripping a baseball...and in the end it turns out that it was the other way around all the time." -Jim Bouton

08-13-2008, 12:58 PM	#111
path12 Coordinator Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Seattle, WA	Kind of crazy at work today so I won't be around much until later, but if we've got two NE pieces I wonder if there are rotation issues? __________________ We have always been at war with Eastasia.

08-13-2008, 03:47 PM	#116
BrianD Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Appleton, WI	I would like to suggest that we describe the map using coordinates starting at the lower left corner. Let's use 1-10 going across the bottom, and A-J going up the side. So, the SW corner would be A1 and the NE corner would be J10. My piece covers A1-F1, A2-F2, and A3-A5. I've also got 3 mines and a treasure. Once we get all the pieces together, I'm happy to go anywhere in the order. First, last, middle, anything is fine. Edit: to make things more clear. Last edited by BrianD : 08-13-2008 at 04:22 PM.

08-13-2008, 05:27 PM	#128
kingnebwsu College Benchwarmer Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Ohio	Last edited by kingnebwsu : 08-13-2008 at 05:28 PM.

08-13-2008, 06:41 PM	#131
path12 Coordinator Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Seattle, WA	Much easier this way, I think! Here's mine: __________________ We have always been at war with Eastasia.

08-13-2008, 12:21 PM	#101
MJ4H Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Hog Country	Your map pieces have been sent. I did forget to include which pieces were mapped by which tribes, so that information will be on a need to know basis only. If you need to know, just tell me. I'm sure we can work something out without breaking the bank.

08-13-2008, 12:26 PM	#102
Passacaglia Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Big Ten Country	It looks like i've got the NE corner. Either that, or my region just happens to be crooked on the south and west sides, but perfectly straight on the north and east.

08-13-2008, 12:27 PM	#103
Barkeep49 Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Not too far away	I have the upper right hand (NE) portion of the map.

08-13-2008, 12:42 PM	#106
MJ4H Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Hog Country	Incidentally, keeping a copy of the map piece on your hard drive is a good idea. A copy that you know the mole can't get to. Better safe than sorry.

08-13-2008, 12:49 PM	#107
Barkeep49 Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Not too far away	So I have to guess that we have overlapping maps, adding another layer of complexity.

08-13-2008, 12:49 PM	#108
Barkeep49 Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Not too far away	Anyone else have a the symbol of a piece of paper?

08-13-2008, 12:59 PM	#112
Barkeep49 Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Not too far away	That could be. That makes things a little easier. Can we adopt a letter/number system so that we can all be referring to common coordinates?

08-13-2008, 03:20 PM	#114
Thomkal Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Surfside Beach,SC USA	nasty host "forgetting" to tell us which tribe mapped the piece we got. Do we think knowing which tribe mapped our piece will help us any? Anyone look at the minesweeper video? I saw my piece there and some others. My piece runs straight up 6 places, two boxes wide, then runs four rows to the left, one box wide on top and two rows to the left on the bottom, two boxes wide. That make any sense? It looks like I might have four mines on my map if mines are circles with a dot on them, and two pieces of treasure if they look like a piece of paper.

08-13-2008, 03:36 PM	#115
BrianD Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Appleton, WI	I've got something that looks like the SW corner.

08-13-2008, 03:58 PM	#117
Passacaglia Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Big Ten Country	Using Brian's sytem, I've got A3-A4, B2-B4, C1-C4, and D1-D4. I've got only circles and dots (probably mines), and no pieces of paper (probably treasure).

08-13-2008, 04:00 PM	#118
Passacaglia Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Big Ten Country	Wait, I think I misunderstoond Brian's system -- one sec.

08-13-2008, 04:02 PM	#119
Passacaglia Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Big Ten Country	Make mine C1-D1, B2-D2, A3-D3, and A4-D4.

08-13-2008, 04:03 PM	#120
Passacaglia Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Big Ten Country	So Brian, yours is like two columns of six spaces each, then a row of three singles at the bottom?

08-13-2008, 05:01 PM	#124
kingnebwsu College Benchwarmer Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Ohio	That first mission has me freaked out on the rules. And I'm going to say something that may be stupid...but can we post the pictures of our maps in this thread? I read through the rules twice and I don't see anything forbidding us from posting the maps. I want to get confirmation from 2 players or MJ4H before I post my map in the thread (in case it gets us DQ'ed). Wouldn't everything be much easier if we posted our maps in here and then worked as a group to assemble them into the actual map? Or am I just too burned out/tired from work to realize how this game is played? Thoughts?

08-13-2008, 05:02 PM	#125
Thomkal Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Surfside Beach,SC USA	Okay consider me confused. I don't know how you could know you have a corner piece or not. Mine could be a corner piece or it could go in the middle for all I know.

08-13-2008, 06:02 PM	#130
Thomkal Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Surfside Beach,SC USA

08-13-2008, 06:41 PM	#132
path12 Coordinator Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Seattle, WA	I think it's pretty clear these are not aligned properly. If that was covered earlier, sorry for the redundancy. __________________ We have always been at war with Eastasia.

08-13-2008, 06:56 PM	#133
BrianD Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Appleton, WI	Here is mine: We might need to figure out who created these maps as they could be from their point of view.

08-13-2008, 08:08 PM	#134
Passacaglia Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Big Ten Country	http://pwatts14.googlepages.com/ciuhcvre.jpg

08-13-2008, 08:52 PM	#135
MJ4H Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Hog Country	I updated the first post of this thread with a fun little intro video to the whole game (The FOFC Mole, not just one of the missions). Might be fun to check it out. Just for fun. No clues are embedded in it, I promise. Other videos I make, no such promise. Last edited by MJ4H : 08-13-2008 at 08:53 PM.

08-13-2008, 11:29 PM	#137
samifan24 Pro Starter Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: NC	__________________ "You spend a good piece of your life gripping a baseball...and in the end it turns out that it was the other way around all the time." -Jim Bouton

08-14-2008, 07:42 AM	#138
Barkeep49 Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Not too far away

08-14-2008, 07:43 AM	#139
Barkeep49 Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Not too far away	I'm going to suggest that path's piece fits inside of Thomkals.

08-14-2008, 10:26 AM	#141
samifan24 Pro Starter Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: NC	Wow I'm not a visual learner so I'm having a lot of trouble with this one. __________________ "You spend a good piece of your life gripping a baseball...and in the end it turns out that it was the other way around all the time." -Jim Bouton

08-14-2008, 10:38 AM	#142
BrianD Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Appleton, WI	OK all, I just counted all the pieces of the map and there are 100 squares identified. We have a complete map (minus the unlabeled spaces) in our 7 pieces. Now we just need to figure out how they go together. As a side note for today: I'm probably going to be away from the computer from at least 2:30 until 9:00 tonight. Funeral services and such will be happening at that time.

08-14-2008, 11:20 AM	#143
path12 Coordinator Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Seattle, WA	Time to get out the graph paper methinks. I likely won't have much of a chance today though -- Ms.Path's birthday. Hopefully this afternoon I can get an hour or so. __________________ We have always been at war with Eastasia.

08-14-2008, 01:36 PM	#144
BrianD Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Appleton, WI	OK gang, I'll type up the instructions, I'm hoping someone can do the graphic work. Start with samifan24 in the NW corner and connect with barkeep49 to the NE corner. They make the top of the map. Spin BrianD a quarter turn counter-clockwise and connect to the bottom of barkeep49 to make the SE corner. Give passacaglia a half turn and connect to me to make the SW corner. Pass doesn't connect to samifan24. Thomkal goes adjacent to Barkeep49 and BrianD. Kingnebwsu gets a quarter turn clockwise and slides into the gap made by Thomkal's piece. Path12 gets a quarter turn clockwise and fits into the remaining space. This should give us a full map. If anyone wants to create this picture, we can get started with our movement. Keep in mind that once the full map is in place, we still have to figure out which way to spin the full map.

08-14-2008, 01:55 PM	#145
MJ4H Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Hog Country	Just to keep things on track, I would like to remind everyone that there are 5 unmapped mines, and 1 unmapped treasure (that is worth 25k instead of 10k like the others). Who knows what else you might find in there, too. Nothing besides the mines Ive mentioned is deadly, though. Anything that isn't a mine is good. For someone. Remember also that just because something isn't mapped doesn't mean the information isn't out there.

08-14-2008, 02:10 PM	#147
Barkeep49 Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Not too far away	I can't really do the graphic work, but would suggest that we would want to enter the square on a potential mine so that we could try and figure out orientation. I think we want no one to pick up treasure until we've charted a safe path from the treasures to the village.

08-14-2008, 02:15 PM	#148
MJ4H Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Hog Country	Another note of caution. Each player must exit the field via a different square. One safe path isn't enough.