02-10-2006, 02:48 AM | #101 |
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come on buddy, its been 20 minutes...your still in thread, just respond already
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02-10-2006, 02:55 AM | #102 | |
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Well, this puts me in a bit of a quandary. If I decide to pick one of these people to vote for, I am stating that it is likely being one of the bolded numbers correlates with being one of the others, and therefore I am, or likely am, a member of the others and am a good candidate for being selected for lynching. If I state that we should vote for someone other than the bolded ones, I seem to be acting as knowing that being bolded is linked to being one of the others, but want to cover it up to protect myself and my brethren. So no matter how I respond to your question, I appear to be guilty. I feel a bit like a Corax to your Tisias the way you lay it out, according to your system of logic I lose no matter what the outcome. |
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02-10-2006, 02:59 AM | #103 | |
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Im assuming your going to vote this day cycle(meaning less then 24 hours from now)...your going to have to pick eventually...you dont have to do it now, but start thinking about it as it will have to be made shortly
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02-10-2006, 03:05 AM | #104 | |
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I will vote, but it won't be based at all off who is bolded. I may vote for someone whose name is bold, but the fact that it is in bold will have nothing to do with the decision. As I said, being that my name is in bold and I know my role, I can truthfully say that being in bold isn't at all indicitive of having a special role. |
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02-10-2006, 03:06 AM | #105 | |
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02-10-2006, 03:10 AM | #106 |
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Maybe AE would do something so obvious, but I'll likely be voting for whoever is inactive on day 1.
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02-10-2006, 03:22 AM | #107 | |
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02-10-2006, 04:30 AM | #108 |
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Survivor checking in. I support mckerney on the not voting just because the person is bolded. Why? Glad you asked. As it was said before, it would be a pretty quick game if the bolded numbered people were the Others. I also doubt the bolded people are special roles as well, since that would make them quick targets for the wolves.
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02-10-2006, 05:45 AM | #109 | |
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He was in the hatch, punching in the numbers before Locke got addicted to punching them in. |
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02-10-2006, 06:48 AM | #110 |
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Sooooooooo, i cant sleep...anyone want to come talk? Hoops, you have posted once(maybe twice) since roles have gone out...where are you????????? Off in the forest with the other "others"
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02-10-2006, 06:56 AM | #111 |
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I've got a bunch of meetings this morning, so I won't be very available until after lunch. But then I'll be around to discuss things and vote.
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02-10-2006, 06:57 AM | #112 |
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Dola -
Just want to make sure I'm not voted for because of inactivity! |
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02-10-2006, 07:00 AM | #114 |
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Top of the morning, Blade. I see you are up to your usual game
I'm not inclined to vote for mckerney, if only for his use of Tisias - that is too rare in werewolf to eliminate on Day 1. Day 1 does suck - I'm all for trying to make something happen in terms of patterns appear, but I'm not sure that random conversation achieves this. I think it only happens when you start the ball rolling with votes. If somehow a bad guy is targeted, then you likely will start to see some kind of movement that gives voting patterns. With that said, I'll vote for TazFTW. Why him? Well, he is in the thread right now and has a chance to respond if he is so inclined. Beyond that, just voting for someone who has played a quiet game over the last couple that I have watched. For me, quiet game = harder to read if good or bad, plus less likely to help shape my thinking (positively or negatively) in finding the "wolves". |
02-10-2006, 07:05 AM | #115 |
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Dola ...
VOTE TAZFTW Sorry about that - getting rusty as a player after not participating in the last couple. Sheesh. |
02-10-2006, 07:05 AM | #116 | |
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Good morning to you...ive decided not to sleep tonight, so what would you like to talk about? I find your vote for taz interesting...defense of mckerney i currently dont see as overly important, as my mckerney vote doesnt hold much substance currently. To be honest, not based on much, but my vote right now is heading towards king. Reasons are there to be seen if you look, but i dont feel like typing out a long winded reasoning just yet...looking for a few more pieces to fall into place first. Whats on your mind buddy?
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02-10-2006, 07:11 AM | #117 | |
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Not a ton, yet. The hidden rules/roles game makes it a little tougher to look for areas not explored in the game conversation - something I usually try to do. Although once we have a day in the books and some voting patterns + positions to look at I still think this is a good way to play. The "wolves" are always trying to move your view somewhere else, so my general tack is to try and think a little bit outside of the current conversation. But after 60 post of mostly "I'm here" call-outs, coupled with the non-published rule set, I haven't yet found something yet that really gets me thinking. I'm up for playing your wingman here for about 15-20 minutes if you want to work through some ideas. |
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02-10-2006, 07:11 AM | #118 |
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Y'all realise that I'm not in this game, right?
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02-10-2006, 07:13 AM | #119 | |
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02-10-2006, 07:14 AM | #120 | |
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Hoopsguy....wow....just wow...you might need to unvote him
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02-10-2006, 07:16 AM | #121 |
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Er, um ... no.
UNVOTE TAZFTW And no one besides Blade is in the thread right now, eliminating my logic for semi-random Day 1 vote. So, who else in the current player list fits the profile as a quiet player? VOTE TANGLEWOOD |
02-10-2006, 07:17 AM | #122 |
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Ratio - lets shoot for 16-4-1, with the turncoat role being in the game - sounds like from the decriptions of the show that could be the case.
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02-10-2006, 07:21 AM | #124 | |
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Round 2: Do you think people checking in as "survivor" or not mentioning it at all should be looked at more closely?
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02-10-2006, 07:23 AM | #125 |
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Looking at this player list, we do have a pretty verbose group - I think there is serious potential for most WW posts ever, particularly if Blade is allowed to live for a few days.
I don't think that AE would deliberately place roles on the bolded numbers. For the people who understand the show, it seems like they would be drawn to these like moths to the flame. But I do expect them to play a role in the storyline at some point. That said, if there was someone with a bolded number that I would vote for initially it would be Raiders. Post #108 he conveniently doesn't mention that he has one of the bolded numbers while giving his defense of not voting for the bolded numbers. As far as a King vote, I went back to re-read his posts. He provides an initial explanation on the numbers; others expand on this later. He then indicates that he is likely to vote for one of the "numbers" just to see what happens. But I don't believe he cast a vote. |
02-10-2006, 07:28 AM | #126 |
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Round 2 "survivor" - the challenge there is that it tempts people to expand upon the PM that Ardent sent, and that is one of the few ironclad rules in werewolf. THOU SHALT NOT REVEAL YOUR PMS!
FWIW on this point, I think the first guy to mention the word is safe in my eyes - and that is you. But that is about all the validity I give it. As for not mentioning it, I think it is probably worth noting but there is also a chance those people are holding special roles or just didn't feel like jumping on the "I'm a survivor" bandwagon. If you were playing the role of "Others" wouldn't you want to get in on the "survivor" tag early after a couple of people already did? If I was going to take a closer look at anything in this vein, I think that is where I would start. |
02-10-2006, 07:31 AM | #127 | |
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Noting your idea on raiders, did mckerney not do the same thing? He did not mention he was a bolded number when he defended it. Just seems like a double standard and starting to seem like you dont want me looking at mckerney...hoops, your better then that. King has not yet voted, but i have stated two/you one of the reasons he is near(near, not top...top is secret) to my vote list right now...i dont want to repeat them right now, but you can look if you want over my comments and some(while not saying king) are about him. If not mckerney, since you seem to be against that, or the numbers(which id agree with...but if were going numbers mckerney should go before raiders)...which way do you want to go? Quiet players? I know you well enough to know why you say that, but you know me and what i want on day one...those two ideas conflict
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02-10-2006, 07:33 AM | #128 |
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I'll be around, on and off, most of the day.
Blade, if you are a garden-variety survivor, then you can probably guess the other reason why I don't think it would be particularly cool for people to try and elaborate on their PMs. I don't want to spell it out and help the "others" with this message, but people who are survivors may be able to start building trust based on this non-reveal of a PM. |
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Round 3: Roles...what are you expecting this game?
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02-10-2006, 07:36 AM | #130 |
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I'm not for/against mckerney for any game-related reasons. But I believe this is his first werewolf game. And if all other things are equal (they rarely are) I avoid voting for a first-timer on Day 1. The game is more fun for me playing with new/different people because I don't bring past game issues into evaluating them and because having a bigger base of people playing werewolf helps ensure future games. Same logic applies for Spleen and Celeval at this point, which is why I didn't go after them as Day 1 votes.
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02-10-2006, 07:38 AM | #132 | |
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02-10-2006, 07:41 AM | #133 |
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Just posting quickly here. I have to get this memo done this morning (due at 1100). Will post some thoughts after I get it done (I'm about halfway done).
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02-10-2006, 07:44 AM | #134 |
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Blade, I recognize by my "survivor" logic that I'm in the list to take a long look at.
Realistically, I'm OK with an early exit from this one. I'll put it out there right now - I have no special role. If the "others" kill me it means that our specials are living another day. If the survivors lynch me, then at least we haven't taken out a seer, a doctor, a bodyguard, etc. That doesn't mean that I want to die early. I'll play actively as long as I'm in the game. Roles that are probably in the game: 1.) Seer - has there ever been a game that didn't involve some version of the seer? 2.) Bodyguard - sounds like there are a couple of good candidates from the cast descriptions 3.) Turncoat - same deal as bodyguard 4.) Witness - if we do have a 16/4/1 ratio then the survivors probably need some more powerful roles like this. Alternate would be to avoid having a brutal or cunning wolf - just ordinary wolf roles, I suppose. All of this is really, really speculative. For the "Lost" fans, is there anyone on the show that would fit neatly into the "Duke" role? |
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As for roles, if there i a korean hitman on the island we must have an assasin...sounds like the kid has mental powers(seer), and prob. one of the big guys(bodyguard)...turncoat i doubt actually, but possible...there is most likely also a (whats it called) role where they can check validity of statements...with all the hints(numbers, hatch, bunker) maybe we have a role that can "decode clues"
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02-10-2006, 07:52 AM | #136 | |
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02-10-2006, 07:58 AM | #137 |
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I've deleted the PMs that I had sent with Barkeep. But the majority of our conversation was about how to balance out the teams, not with the construction of new rules. I already had a pretty complete set of rules laid out.
For example, I had the bodyguard dying if he guarded a ninja. He said that was too harsh, so I pulled it back to blinded (loss of powers). Those were the kinds of changes that came out of our conversation. I do remember him saying at the time that my set was farther along than Ardents ... it sounded like he was just moving out of the concept phase and starting to flesh out rules with Ardent. Bottom line - I don't think there is anything of value that I can provide from that perspective. |
02-10-2006, 07:59 AM | #138 |
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Hmmm, day 1 is always fun. I think people are probably right that the bolded numbers arent going to be a clue for us to know who to vote off on day 1. It sounds like from what you all say, those numbers have a different significance and Ardent likely was just having some fun..
With that said though, hey its day 1, and I don't really have much better to go on so... someone who is bolded AND hasnt checked in yet... Vote Mr. Wednesday Had to be done! |
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Noop was just in the thread - maybe I should change my vote to him?
Seriously, I was just laughing very hard about voting for a guy in the game. If I was Taz I would have left me sitting on it all day and came on after night stuff was in to bust my balls up and down for this |
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YOU HEAR THAT ARDENT!!! IM ON TO YOUR GAME!!!!!
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02-10-2006, 08:06 AM | #141 | |
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Round god knows what, i dont remember: Wolf roles...you didnt meantion any guesses...care to enlighten me?
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02-10-2006, 08:31 AM | #143 |
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Dola,
Survivor checking in... |
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What is the Duke role? |
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I think that there is a possibility that many people understand at this point that Survivor equates to villager...so I'm not sure if we can trust people who say they're a survivor. Then again, that's not to say that people who came on later and say it aren't survivors either. |
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As I said before, I'm not sure how that helps. |
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Someone who can change the voting results. I'll be in and out all day so to make sure I get a vote in. Vote Gramm more than willing to move it once I hear more, but wanted to get a vote in. |
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Do you guys take notes about this stuff or just keep it in memory.
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