2012-13 TV Schedule

[kingfc22]

Originally Posted by Easy Mac

Watched the first episode on demand on Saturday. It was not good. There was so many more interesting ways they could have gone about making the show. The way they chose was not good. It was like a slightly higher budget Syfy miniseries.

Damn. Not that I'm surprised that this is how the show turned out.

[Thomkal]

In addition to Revolution, I'm intrigued by Last Resort on ABC-about a crew on a nuclear submarine defying orders to fire nuclear missiles and then have to seek sanctuary at a NATO base.

[stevew]

Originally Posted by Thomkal

In addition to Revolution, I'm intrigued by Last Resort on ABC-about a crew on a nuclear submarine defying orders to fire nuclear missiles and then have to seek sanctuary at a NATO base.

Those 2, Nashville and the Mindy Project. I checked out "The New Normal" and if it gets time, it could be a pretty good show.

[DaddyTorgo]

Originally Posted by Easy Mac

Watched the first episode on demand on Saturday. It was not good. There was so many more interesting ways they could have gone about making the show. The way they chose was not good. It was like a slightly higher budget Syfy miniseries.

Damn. Hopefully it gets better.

[Easy Mac]

Mild spoilers for Revolution, but its set 15 years in the future and seems to have an occasional flashback to basically set up who people are.

I'd prefer if they did it the other way, if that's even possible. We'd get to follow the people becoming who they are and maybe show a few flashforwards to who these people have become. I guess this way, they don't have to worry about utilizing kid actors, but the minimal flashbacks they showed had far more depth and characterization to them than anything that occurred in the present in the show.

Dollhouse did this greatly at the end of its first season, flashing forward a couple of years and showing us how the world became. The second (last) season caught up with a couple of episodes left. A show set 15 years in the future obviously makes it more difficult, but I think that would have made for a more interesting show.

[DaddyTorgo]

Originally Posted by Easy Mac

I'd prefer if they did it the other way, if that's even possible. We'd get to follow the people becoming who they are and maybe show a few flashforwards to who these people have become. I guess this way, they don't have to worry about utilizing kid actors, .

A show set 15 years in the future obviously makes it more difficult, but I think that would have made for a more interesting show.

100% agree

[sterlingice]

Originally Posted by Easy Mac

Mild spoilers for Revolution, but its set 15 years in the future and seems to have an occasional flashback to basically set up who people are.

I'd prefer if they did it the other way, if that's even possible. We'd get to follow the people becoming who they are and maybe show a few flashforwards to who these people have become. I guess this way, they don't have to worry about utilizing kid actors, but the minimal flashbacks they showed had far more depth and characterization to them than anything that occurred in the present in the show.

Dollhouse did this greatly at the end of its first season, flashing forward a couple of years and showing us how the world became. The second (last) season caught up with a couple of episodes left. A show set 15 years in the future obviously makes it more difficult, but I think that would have made for a more interesting show.

It seems like The Lost model is the way people will be doing things for a while now: show the plot and then flashback to the backstory. Once Upon a Time does this, too

SI

[Honolulu_Blue]

Originally Posted by sterlingice

It seems like The Lost model is the way people will be doing things for a while now: show the plot and then flashback to the backstory. Once Upon a Time does this, too

SI

I know "Lost" took a lot of flak from a lot of folks, especially during the later seasons, but given all of the completely unremarkable and utterly forgetable "Lost" clones that have and come since then, it really makes what "Lost" managed to pull off - more often than not - pretty damned impressive.

[sterlingice]

Yeah, that was not a criticism of Lost, by any means.

SI

[Honolulu_Blue]

Originally Posted by sterlingice

Yeah, that was not a criticism of Lost, by any means.

SI

I didn't take it as such. Just an observation on "Lost" and all the multitudes of "Lost" clones over the years.

[Easy Mac]

If it wasn't for the horrible acting of Joseph Fiennes and Jack Davenport and the horrible storytelling (but good plot idea), FlashForward could have been a very good show. It needed more John Cho and the Famous Jett Jackson. I thought the outline of the show was very good, but the execution was just horrible. It just spent too much time telling side stories that didn't really go anywhere (that Japanese love triangle, what was the point?).

[BrianD]

Originally Posted by Easy Mac

The first episode of Go On that I watched was meh. There might be something there, but it was just boring.

I thought the preview episode during the Olympics was quite good, but the second episode wasn't as good. The show definitely has potential as they have enough different characters in the group to develop some of them into interesting personalities. I just worry that the every episode will be about Perry's character screwing things up while trying to help and then learning from the real group leader while she fixes his mistakes. That will get old quickly.

Guys with Kids was horrible. The overactive laugh track was just distracting, especially when there were no jokes.

"Filmed in front of a live studio audience". Possibly true, but the laughter did not come from the audience. The show was worth a smile or chuckle once or twice, but no actual laughter. Uninspiring characters and no great actors to drive the show. Cliches abound.

[Swaggs]

Originally Posted by Thomkal

In addition to Revolution, I'm intrigued by Last Resort on ABC-about a crew on a nuclear submarine defying orders to fire nuclear missiles and then have to seek sanctuary at a NATO base.

These two plus 666 Park Avenue look good to me.

[DaddyTorgo]

Originally Posted by Swaggs

These two plus 666 Park Avenue look good to me.

666 Park Avenue looks like good campy, guilty-pleasure fun.

[stevew]

The thing that annoys me is that you'll see ads for these new shows, but there is no way to one touch record the show. At least not with a Directv DVR anyways. Like I wanted to record Last Resort, but it was more than 10 or so days out and I couldn't find it with my DVR. Frustrating.

[Honolulu_Blue]

Originally Posted by stevew

The thing that annoys me is that you'll see ads for these new shows, but there is no way to one touch record the show. At least not with a Directv DVR anyways. Like I wanted to record Last Resort, but it was more than 10 or so days out and I couldn't find it with my DVR. Frustrating.

#firstworldproblems

[stevew]

The thing that annoys me is that after a 12 hour shift painstakingly making Ipads by hand, when I get home to my one room apartment I will see ads for these new shows. If I had a TV, I mean. There is no way to one touch record the show, at least that's what my uncle who makes the DVR's told me before he died of copper poisoning. I wanted to record the show Last Resort, of course it was blocked by my government, but it was more than 10 or so days out anyways. I'm sure a DVR doesn't work like that.

#3rdworldproblems

[DaddyTorgo]

Not digging this bullshit about the one guy who knew about it and apparently has something on a flash drive (although without power how's that going to help? A shielded computer somewhere I guess?)

And magically guns still work?

Meh. Lame.

[Honolulu_Blue]

Originally Posted by DaddyTorgo

Not digging this bullshit about the one guy who knew about it and apparently has something on a flash drive (although without power how's that going to help? A shielded computer somewhere I guess?)

And magically guns still work?

Meh. Lame.

Why wouldn't guns work? They aren't powered by electricity.

[DaddyTorgo]

Originally Posted by Honolulu_Blue

Why wouldn't guns work? They aren't powered by electricity.

Well yes, they "would" still work if it's just electricity that died, but I was hoping for a future with even less technology. I guess I shouldn't have said "magically" but just "oh but guns work? Meh."

Just think it leads to the easy cop-out of "the bad guys have guns so they're stronger and more dangerous" which promotes shallow characterization instead of deeper characters.

[Lathum]

can we be careful of spoiler in here. k.thx

[stevew]

Walt White is Heisenberg

[saldana]

i would like the producers and writers of "the new normal" to be summarily shot...what a stupid show...i didnt intend on watching it, but had that channel on from The Voice and the remote was across the room...cannot be cancelled soon enough.

[CleBrownsfan]

Originally Posted by saldana

i would like the producers and writers of "the new normal" to be summarily shot...what a stupid show...i didnt intend on watching it, but had that channel on from The Voice and the remote was across the room...cannot be cancelled soon enough.

So you liked it??

[Scarecrow]

Is it just me, or...

Go On = Community
The New Normal = Modern Family

(not talking quality, just the preface)

[DanGarion]

Originally Posted by Scarecrow

Is it just me, or...

Go On = Community

I said this to my wife while watching the second episode.

[PackerFanatic]

Enjoying Go On so far. I think the ensemble is better than Mr. Sunshine was (even though I enjoyed that show as well). Not sure how it is doing ratings-wise, but I hope it lasts.

[PackerFanatic]

And I found this amusing...so I have been in the boat of "The Office should have been done 2 years ago" for a while. While I have watched every episode and would always stick with it, I just knew that they have tried to drag it on too long. So when I heard earlier this year that this would be the last season, I was somewhat happy and not all surprised - until I actually saw the first preview that said "The Office's Farewell Season". Then I got super bummed! Even though it's gone on past its prime, it was a great show - hope this season can give it a good send-off.

[Easy Mac]

Go On had 9.3 million viewers, 3.3 million 18-49. A godsend for NBC, although no episodes of new shows have been going against it. Unless it bombs once the real shows come on, I'd be shocked if it doesn't at least last the season. It can drop maybe 20% and still get renewed for next year.

[kcchief19]

Originally Posted by Scarecrow

Is it just me, or...

Go On = Community
The New Normal = Modern Family

(not talking quality, just the preface)

The New Normal is definitely an attempt at a Modern Family clone. I'm not sure that Community is the model for Go On -- hard to justify making a clone of a low-rated (but awesome) show that the network seems to have little faith in. But there are definite similarities.

I'm trying to like Go On because I root for Matt Perry. But I'm having a hard time getting past the horrible premise and the excruciating writing. This isn't Perry's best work either.

Maybe it'll grow on me. I hated Friends at first too, although that was mostly due to the damn monkey.

[BrianD]

Originally Posted by kcchief19

I'm trying to like Go On because I root for Matt Perry. But I'm having a hard time getting past the horrible premise and the excruciating writing. This isn't Perry's best work either.

What don't you like about the premise of Go On?

The most jarring thing for me is the caricatures in the group. The crazy cat lady, the inappropriate-touching guy, etc. Most TV shows make their characters very one-dimensional for the first 5 episodes and then allow them to expand. If they expand decently, the show should be OK.

I think of both Community and Parks and Rec in terms of this expansion. Community was decent and then got really good. Parks and Rec was awful early and then got really good. We'll see what this show does.

[Easy Mac]

Last Resort is streaming on Hulu, ABC, and available on iTunes.

I thought it was the best premier I've seen since Lost.

[kcchief19]

Originally Posted by BrianD

What don't you like about the premise of Go On?

Guy goes into therapy after his wife dies in a car accident caused by texting. That's a horrible premise for a comedy. If this show were done like a SportsNight where there was drama and comedy, it could work. You can also pull off slapstick humor and death for half an hour. But you can't do it for half an hour every single week. It's just too odd.

Originally Posted by BrianD

The most jarring thing for me is the caricatures in the group. The crazy cat lady, the inappropriate-touching guy, etc. Most TV shows make their characters very one-dimensional for the first 5 episodes and then allow them to expand. If they expand decently, the show should be OK.

Couldn't agree more. The group characters are by and large horribly created. I'm just waiting for the protests to start about this show making fun of the mentally ill.

For NBC, the numbers it's putting up are great. But once the other networks come back, I have a feeling it will be getting beat by New Girl by Thanksgiving.

[kcchief19]

In other news, Animal Practice "debuts" this week and I'm hoping this thing tanks and is cancelled quickly. I'm not sure I have ever seen previews for a show that annoy me as much as this. It just looks god awful.

[stevew]

KC-
I gather you missed "Guys with Kids?"

[Mota]

Office was pretty bad this week. I'm watching just because I've watched every episode and I know there is an end in sight. Last year had some bright moments but floundered most of the season, and this first episode felt like it was written by a bunch of people who were bored with their jobs and just trying to cash for a bit longer.

[EagleFan]

Watched the first episode of Go On after the olympics one night. Have no desire to watch another episode.

Looking forward to Person of Interest to see what direction it takes this season. Also the usual mix of Big Bang Theory, Criminal Minds and How I Met Your Mother (only because I have watched it this long but it needs to be better than last season).

Then it seems I have a diet of reality TV with Survivor, Amazing Race, Ultimate Fighter and Being Liverpool.

[BishopMVP]

Originally Posted by kcchief19

I'm trying to like Go On because I root for Matt Perry. But I'm having a hard time getting past the horrible premise and the excruciating writing. This isn't Perry's best work either.

Maybe it'll grow on me. I hated Friends at first too, although that was mostly due to the damn monkey.

Originally Posted by BrianD

What don't you like about the premise of Go On?

The most jarring thing for me is the caricatures in the group. The crazy cat lady, the inappropriate-touching guy, etc. Most TV shows make their characters very one-dimensional for the first 5 episodes and then allow them to expand. If they expand decently, the show should be OK.

I think of both Community and Parks and Rec in terms of this expansion. Community was decent and then got really good. Parks and Rec was awful early and then got really good. We'll see what this show does.

That's about where I am - I like it enough as a flawed show right now, and as a comedy I'm willing to give it a longer leash than a drama. Everyone in the therapy group (with the possible exception of the blind black guy and the therapist) is a Modern Family-esque caricature, but the two work acquaintances (Harold and the girl from Terra Nova) have actually been well written and acted so far, so I'm willing to go along with it and see if they can fix the rest of the show by season 2, a la P&R.

Originally Posted by Easy Mac

Last Resort is streaming on Hulu, ABC, and available on iTunes.

I thought it was the best premier I've seen since Lost.

It was good. I'm surprised no one has mentioned that it is written by Shawn Ryan (The Shield/Terriers). Not entirely sure where it will go long term, but I assume it will hold up on the journey there.

[NorvTurnerOverdrive]

so they're finally making a fargo tv show. i know the coens had been shopping it for years but... idk. i'd feel better if it was on a cable network. i guess i'm cautiously optimistic.

thing about fargo is it was crazy shit happens somewhere crazy shit never happens. i'm curious as to what direction they'll take it.

[sterlingice]

Like Northern Exposure but with crazy killings?

SI

[stevew]

I wonder if the NAACP will protest an all white cast

[kcchief19]

Originally Posted by stevew

KC-
I gather you missed "Guys with Kids?"

I haven't checked it out yet. I feel like I should watch at least the pilots of these shows I hate on spec just so my criticism doesn't seem so superficial.

Are those guys able to still stay cool dudes? It is totally dadass?

[BrianD]

The Mindy Project and Ben and Kate.

Anyone else watch either of these? Did you find them as awful as I did?

[larrymcg421]

Originally Posted by BrianD

The Mindy Project and Ben and Kate.

Anyone else watch either of these? Did you find them as awful as I did?

I didn't watch them yet, but will tonight probably. They both had underwhelming premiere #'s, although part of that is New Girl being down from last year. Mindy did hold a good % and was 2nd in it's timeslot.

[rowech]

Originally Posted by BrianD

The Mindy Project and Ben and Kate.

Anyone else watch either of these? Did you find them as awful as I did?

I didn't watch The Mindy Project because it seemed stupid from the start. Ben and Kate I decided was stupid prior to the first commercial break. How do shows like this even make it to air?

[stevew]

I really like Mindy Kaling and from what I've heard it gets better in the shows after the pilot. I haven't had time to check it out yet.

[BrianD]

Originally Posted by rowech

I didn't watch The Mindy Project because it seemed stupid from the start. Ben and Kate I decided was stupid prior to the first commercial break. How do shows like this even make it to air?

I'll probably give both another try to see if they get better, but I was ready to turn both shows off by the commercial break. The Mindy Project didn't get any better. Ben and Kate got slightly better, but not nearly enough. The Ben character is completely annoying, and Kate is only slightly better. They have to hope the 5-year old can carry the show.

I did catch the latest episode of Go On. I'm still liking this one. Less screen-time for the goofy side characters, but just enough to keep things fun. I like that the show has a bit of a serious side to add heart, but still plenty of comedy. Then again, I like comedy best when it can play opposite serious.

[kingfc22]

Originally Posted by BrianD

The Mindy Project and Ben and Kate.

Anyone else watch either of these? Did you find them as awful as I did?

I thought the Mindy Project was awful, but found Ben and Kate semi amusing. I'd probably give that one another chance next week.

[gstelmack]

Enjoyed Elementary last night. We'll see if it keeps up, but pretty decent start.

[stevew]

The New Girl premiere episode was pretty great. I love that show.