Werewolf 108, The Gang Wars of 1929 GAME OVER - North Siders Win - Page 3

EagleFan · 02-09-2010, 08:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Lathum

How can you possibly say that?

I had zero votes and 4 people had at least 1 vote.

I then get 2 quick votes. Then just as I a few others pull ahead RealDeal and CR come in with almost back to back votes.

How does that look like someone is saving me?

Twice now as soon as you were brought to a tie for the lead the very next vote was for the person that you were tied with.

Not saying that is what is happening, just that it struck me as that.

CrimsonFox · 02-09-2010, 08:46 PM

Didn't actually think of that. I would have voted for either kwhit or purduebrad no matter where they were in the list. Just sort of a "revenge for last game" vote. Means nothing really like most day one votes until people start flipping. I can see your concern.

Autumn · 02-09-2010, 08:46 PM

It's starting to look like those last two votes will be no-shows.

Lathum · 02-09-2010, 08:46 PM

Well someone needs to break the time, hopefully Pass or J23 show up soon.

EagleFan · 02-09-2010, 08:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Lathum

Well someone needs to break the time, hopefully Pass or J23 show up soon.

If I trusted my gut I would switch to you but I think you can be too valuable a villager to risk that move.

Lathum · 02-09-2010, 08:50 PM

well we either need to move to pass or Autumn needs to move

EagleFan · 02-09-2010, 08:53 PM

Is there an arguement against Pass? I see more of a reason go vote CF than Pass at the moment (not like day one reasons usually mean anything and are most likely just a villager play bein misinterpretted)..

Lathum · 02-09-2010, 08:53 PM

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Originally Posted by EagleFan

Is there an arguement against Pass? I see more of a reason go vote CF than Pass at the moment (not like day one reasons usually mean anything and are most likely just a villager play bein misinterpretted)..

no, just that he isn't here.

Autumn · 02-09-2010, 08:54 PM

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Originally Posted by EagleFan

Votes as of post #93:

4 - CrimsonFox - EagleFan (38), Lathum (54), Danny (77), KWhit (88)
3 - Passacaglia - PurdueBrad (43), Telle (78), DaddyTorgo (86)
1 - Telle - Poli (51)
4 - Lathum - Autumn (67), CrimsonFox (81), Chief Rum (87), RealDeal (93)
1 - Chief Rum - Darth Vilus (62)

Yet to vote: J23, Passacaglia

I'm willing to move to break the tie if necessary. Who else is around?

Lathum · 02-09-2010, 08:54 PM

guys, we can't have a tie.

Autumn or DT, will you switch?

CrimsonFox · 02-09-2010, 08:55 PM

Wow this is really funny how much you are pushing this lathum.

Lathum · 02-09-2010, 08:57 PM

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Originally Posted by CrimsonFox

Wow this is really funny how much you are pushing this lathum.

Actually it is worrisome you aren't

A tie only helps the wolves.

KWhit · 02-09-2010, 08:57 PM

Unvote CF
VOte Lathum

KWhit · 02-09-2010, 08:58 PM

Note - just to break the tie.

I don't really care who bites it at this point.

EagleFan · 02-09-2010, 08:58 PM

unvote CF

vote Pass

KWhit · 02-09-2010, 08:58 PM

But I did NOT want a tie.

Lathum · 02-09-2010, 08:58 PM

UInvote CF
Vote PAss

Autumn · 02-09-2010, 08:59 PM

That's a tie I believe

EagleFan · 02-09-2010, 08:59 PM

Votes as of post #115:

2 - CrimsonFox - Lathum (54), Danny (77)
4 - Passacaglia - PurdueBrad (43), Telle (78), DaddyTorgo (86), EagleFan (115)
1 - Telle - Poli (51)
5 - Lathum - Autumn (67), CrimsonFox (81), Chief Rum (87), RealDeal (93), KWhit (113)
1 - Chief Rum - Darth Vilus (62)

Yet to vote: J23, Passacaglia

Autumn · 02-09-2010, 09:00 PM

unvote lathum

Lathum · 02-09-2010, 09:00 PM

EF, you don't have my unvote of CF and vote of PAss

EagleFan · 02-09-2010, 09:01 PM

Votes as of post #119:

1 - CrimsonFox - Danny (77)
5 - Passacaglia - PurdueBrad (43), Telle (78), DaddyTorgo (86), EagleFan (115), Lathum (117)
1 - Telle - Poli (51)
5 - Lathum - Autumn (67), CrimsonFox (81), Chief Rum (87), RealDeal (93), KWhit (113)
1 - Chief Rum - Darth Vilus (62)

Yet to vote: J23, Passacaglia

EagleFan · 02-09-2010, 09:01 PM

Votes as of post #121:

1 - CrimsonFox - Danny (77)
5 - Passacaglia - PurdueBrad (43), Telle (78), DaddyTorgo (86), EagleFan (115), Lathum (117)
1 - Telle - Poli (51)
4 - Lathum - CrimsonFox (81), Chief Rum (87), RealDeal (93), KWhit (113)
1 - Chief Rum - Darth Vilus (62)

Yet to vote: J23, Passacaglia, Autumn

KWhit · 02-09-2010, 09:02 PM

Clusterfuck at deadline, as always.

Autumn · 02-09-2010, 09:03 PM

Well there's some voting history for us. Should be interesting.

DaddyTorgo · 02-09-2010, 09:03 PM

hopefully there's stuff we can learn from this clusterfuck though - that was kinda my intention - think we may have a bit more of a read on people like autumn now anyways

KWhit · 02-09-2010, 09:03 PM

It's very strange at how fast everyone bolted off CF. Yes, I know I was first, but that was just to break the tie. I can also see why Lathum did it. But why did EF move to Pass so quickly. This looks odd to me.

Poli · 02-09-2010, 09:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Lathum

hmm, also makes you wonder why Poli decided to go from the top down this time.

I mentioned why earlier. Cf stole my top down pick, ef stole my "cf for mentioning my top down strategy pick". As ef mentioned, it concerned me that someone might be trying to use my presumed vote to their advantage and I didn't want that...again all stuff I mentioned before.

KWhit · 02-09-2010, 09:05 PM

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Originally Posted by DaddyTorgo

hopefully there's stuff we can learn from this clusterfuck though - that was kinda my intention - think we may have a bit more of a read on people like autumn now anyways

What do you mean by this?

Passacaglia · 02-09-2010, 09:05 PM

doh -- deadline was 9 Eastern?

CrimsonFox · 02-09-2010, 09:05 PM

EF is on this Save Lathum kick for sure. Said it twice with a reason that defies logic.

KWhit · 02-09-2010, 09:05 PM

Poli, don't take this the wrong way, but I hate that voting strategy of yours.

CrimsonFox · 02-09-2010, 09:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KWhit

It's very strange at how fast everyone bolted off CF. Yes, I know I was first, but that was just to break the tie. I can also see why Lathum did it. But why did EF move to Pass so quickly. This looks odd to me.

Very interesting indeed as I figured I was toast. The bolt onto pass was obviously to save Lathum.

Poli · 02-09-2010, 09:07 PM

He just means he is stirring the pot, kwhit.

EagleFan · 02-09-2010, 09:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KWhit

It's very strange at how fast everyone bolted off CF. Yes, I know I was first, but that was just to break the tie. I can also see why Lathum did it. But why did EF move to Pass so quickly. This looks odd to me.

I had to do somethng as it seemed there wasn't anything else going on, moving to Pass was the only viable option as I want to give Lathum the benefit of the doubt for day one. Moving to Pass gave Lathum a choice with his vote. Plus Pass has been absent and only has a couple odd posts early after the game started.

CrimsonFox · 02-09-2010, 09:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Passacaglia

doh -- deadline was 9 Eastern?

*nod* caught in the crossfire dude :*(

DaddyTorgo · 02-09-2010, 09:08 PM

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Originally Posted by KWhit

What do you mean by this?

what i meant by that is that on day 1 i often think a good strategy is not staking a strong position on anybody if i don't have any knowledge, but rather trying to vote at such a way or at such a time in such a way as to give us maximum knowledge from the way things unfold. voting to create ties or that kind of thing...trying to force people to make moves and such

EagleFan · 02-09-2010, 09:09 PM

dola: pretty quick switch? There was 2 minutes left to vote and we had a tie at that time. Was I supposed to wait another hour?

Passacaglia · 02-09-2010, 09:09 PM

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Originally Posted by CrimsonFox

*nod* caught in the crossfire dude :*(

Oh well -- my fault for missing the vote I guess, but damn thanks for voting me Day 1 on my first game in a while, guys!

Autumn · 02-09-2010, 09:10 PM

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Originally Posted by CrimsonFox

Very interesting indeed as I figured I was toast. The bolt onto pass was obviously to save Lathum.

If people wanted to save Lathum, why not bolt onto you, CF? That doesn't quite make sense.

Autumn · 02-09-2010, 09:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EagleFan

I had to do somethng as it seemed there wasn't anything else going on, moving to Pass was the only viable option as I want to give Lathum the benefit of the doubt for day one. Moving to Pass gave Lathum a choice with his vote. Plus Pass has been absent and only has a couple odd posts early after the game started.

How did you give Lathum a choice? His only choice at that point was to vote Pass or hope other people moved to CF.

Poli · 02-09-2010, 09:11 PM

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Originally Posted by KWhit

Poli, don't take this the wrong way, but I hate that voting strategy of yours.

none taken. Just using a way to pick my day 1 vote. It's not a great strategy, but
there really isn't a great
day 1 strategy is there?

CrimsonFox · 02-09-2010, 09:12 PM

One person switched from me to Lathum, then another from pass to Lathum, then a sudden bolt to pass. They could have gone with me but they did not. Once the ball started rolling off of me it went QUICKLY to pass.

Autumn · 02-09-2010, 09:12 PM

FWIW, I waited with my vote because I knew I was here, and could switch to CF if necessary. But I was playing it selfish because I wanted to see where other people would move. I must say the movement to Pass was very surprising, and I think there must be something there.

Lathum · 02-09-2010, 09:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CrimsonFox

Very interesting indeed as I figured I was toast. The bolt onto pass was obviously to save Lathum.

no it wasn't, it was to prevent a tie.

Poli · 02-09-2010, 09:13 PM

Stupid phone.

CrimsonFox · 02-09-2010, 09:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Poli

none taken. Just using a way to pick my day 1 vote. It's not a great strategy, but
there really isn't a great
day 1 strategy is there?

How about lining up everyone's vote so that each person is voting for only ONE other person. That's a great idea.

Autumn · 02-09-2010, 09:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CrimsonFox

One person switched from me to Lathum, then another from pass to Lathum, then a sudden bolt to pass. They could have gone with me but they did not. Once the ball started rolling off of me it went QUICKLY to pass.

Right, which suggests more an avoidance of you, or an avoidance of you *and* Lathum than anyone saving Lathum. I don't know, it will take some time with the vote counts ... and a result ... before I know what I think about it. Pulling Pass out of nowhere instead of voting for one of you guys is weird though.

Lathum · 02-09-2010, 09:19 PM

I think the way people were jumping of CF bears some looking into. I can see a scenerio where a wolf had an early vote on CF to get trust, then saw an opportunity to jump off.

Autumn · 02-09-2010, 09:22 PM

Just for information's sake, this was the vote before the craziness started.

4 - CrimsonFox - EagleFan (38), Lathum (54), Danny (77), KWhit (88)
3 - Passacaglia - PurdueBrad (43), Telle (78), DaddyTorgo (86)
1 - Telle - Poli (51)
4 - Lathum - Autumn (67), CrimsonFox (81), Chief Rum (87), RealDeal (93)
1 - Chief Rum - Darth Vilus (62)

Yet to vote: J23, Passacaglia

As far as i know, the people around were me, Lathum, CF, DaddyTorgo, EagleFan and ... ? KWhit I guess.

The only people who could really break the tie by themselves were me, EF and KWhit out of those (Lathum and CF having a self-preservation vote already).

02-09-2010, 09:03 PM	#126
DaddyTorgo Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Massachusetts	hopefully there's stuff we can learn from this clusterfuck though - that was kinda my intention - think we may have a bit more of a read on people like autumn now anyways __________________ Get bent whoever hacked my pw and changed my signature.

02-09-2010, 09:07 PM	#134
Poli FOFC Survivor Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Wentzville, MO	He just means he is stirring the pot, kwhit. __________________ Cheer for a walk on quarterback! Ardent leads the Vols in the dynasty forum.

02-09-2010, 09:13 PM	#146
Poli FOFC Survivor Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Wentzville, MO	Stupid phone. __________________ Cheer for a walk on quarterback! Ardent leads the Vols in the dynasty forum.

02-09-2010, 08:46 PM	#102
CrimsonFox Head Coach Join Date: Dec 2009	Didn't actually think of that. I would have voted for either kwhit or purduebrad no matter where they were in the list. Just sort of a "revenge for last game" vote. Means nothing really like most day one votes until people start flipping. I can see your concern.

02-09-2010, 08:46 PM	#103
Autumn Head Coach Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Bath, ME	It's starting to look like those last two votes will be no-shows.

02-09-2010, 08:46 PM	#104
Lathum Favored Bitch #1 Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: homeless in NJ	Well someone needs to break the time, hopefully Pass or J23 show up soon.

02-09-2010, 08:50 PM	#106
Lathum Favored Bitch #1 Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: homeless in NJ	well we either need to move to pass or Autumn needs to move

02-09-2010, 08:53 PM	#107
EagleFan Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Mays Landing, NJ USA	Is there an arguement against Pass? I see more of a reason go vote CF than Pass at the moment (not like day one reasons usually mean anything and are most likely just a villager play bein misinterpretted)..

02-09-2010, 08:54 PM	#110
Lathum Favored Bitch #1 Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: homeless in NJ	guys, we can't have a tie. Autumn or DT, will you switch?

02-09-2010, 08:55 PM	#111
CrimsonFox Head Coach Join Date: Dec 2009	Wow this is really funny how much you are pushing this lathum.

02-09-2010, 08:57 PM	#113
KWhit Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Conyers GA	Unvote CF VOte Lathum

02-09-2010, 08:58 PM	#114
KWhit Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Conyers GA	Note - just to break the tie. I don't really care who bites it at this point.

02-09-2010, 08:58 PM	#115
EagleFan Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Mays Landing, NJ USA	unvote CF vote Pass

02-09-2010, 08:58 PM	#116
KWhit Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Conyers GA	But I did NOT want a tie.

02-09-2010, 08:58 PM	#117
Lathum Favored Bitch #1 Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: homeless in NJ	UInvote CF Vote PAss

02-09-2010, 08:59 PM	#118
Autumn Head Coach Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Bath, ME	That's a tie I believe

02-09-2010, 08:59 PM	#119
EagleFan Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Mays Landing, NJ USA	Votes as of post #115: 2 - CrimsonFox - Lathum (54), Danny (77) 4 - Passacaglia - PurdueBrad (43), Telle (78), DaddyTorgo (86), EagleFan (115) 1 - Telle - Poli (51) 5 - Lathum - Autumn (67), CrimsonFox (81), Chief Rum (87), RealDeal (93), KWhit (113) 1 - Chief Rum - Darth Vilus (62) Yet to vote: J23, Passacaglia

02-09-2010, 09:00 PM	#120
Autumn Head Coach Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Bath, ME	unvote lathum

02-09-2010, 09:00 PM	#121
Lathum Favored Bitch #1 Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: homeless in NJ	EF, you don't have my unvote of CF and vote of PAss

02-09-2010, 09:01 PM	#122
EagleFan Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Mays Landing, NJ USA	Votes as of post #119: 1 - CrimsonFox - Danny (77) 5 - Passacaglia - PurdueBrad (43), Telle (78), DaddyTorgo (86), EagleFan (115), Lathum (117) 1 - Telle - Poli (51) 5 - Lathum - Autumn (67), CrimsonFox (81), Chief Rum (87), RealDeal (93), KWhit (113) 1 - Chief Rum - Darth Vilus (62) Yet to vote: J23, Passacaglia

02-09-2010, 09:01 PM	#123
EagleFan Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Mays Landing, NJ USA	Votes as of post #121: 1 - CrimsonFox - Danny (77) 5 - Passacaglia - PurdueBrad (43), Telle (78), DaddyTorgo (86), EagleFan (115), Lathum (117) 1 - Telle - Poli (51) 4 - Lathum - CrimsonFox (81), Chief Rum (87), RealDeal (93), KWhit (113) 1 - Chief Rum - Darth Vilus (62) Yet to vote: J23, Passacaglia, Autumn

02-09-2010, 09:02 PM	#124
KWhit Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Conyers GA	Clusterfuck at deadline, as always.

02-09-2010, 09:03 PM	#125
Autumn Head Coach Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Bath, ME	Well there's some voting history for us. Should be interesting.

02-09-2010, 09:03 PM	#127
KWhit Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Conyers GA	It's very strange at how fast everyone bolted off CF. Yes, I know I was first, but that was just to break the tie. I can also see why Lathum did it. But why did EF move to Pass so quickly. This looks odd to me.

02-09-2010, 09:05 PM	#130
Passacaglia Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Big Ten Country	doh -- deadline was 9 Eastern?

02-09-2010, 09:05 PM	#131
CrimsonFox Head Coach Join Date: Dec 2009	EF is on this Save Lathum kick for sure. Said it twice with a reason that defies logic.

02-09-2010, 09:05 PM	#132
KWhit Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Conyers GA	Poli, don't take this the wrong way, but I hate that voting strategy of yours.

02-09-2010, 09:09 PM	#138
EagleFan Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Mays Landing, NJ USA	dola: pretty quick switch? There was 2 minutes left to vote and we had a tie at that time. Was I supposed to wait another hour?

02-09-2010, 09:12 PM	#143
CrimsonFox Head Coach Join Date: Dec 2009	One person switched from me to Lathum, then another from pass to Lathum, then a sudden bolt to pass. They could have gone with me but they did not. Once the ball started rolling off of me it went QUICKLY to pass.

02-09-2010, 09:12 PM	#144
Autumn Head Coach Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Bath, ME	FWIW, I waited with my vote because I knew I was here, and could switch to CF if necessary. But I was playing it selfish because I wanted to see where other people would move. I must say the movement to Pass was very surprising, and I think there must be something there.

02-09-2010, 09:19 PM	#149
Lathum Favored Bitch #1 Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: homeless in NJ	I think the way people were jumping of CF bears some looking into. I can see a scenerio where a wolf had an early vote on CF to get trust, then saw an opportunity to jump off.

02-09-2010, 09:22 PM	#150
Autumn Head Coach Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Bath, ME	Just for information's sake, this was the vote before the craziness started. 4 - CrimsonFox - EagleFan (38), Lathum (54), Danny (77), KWhit (88) 3 - Passacaglia - PurdueBrad (43), Telle (78), DaddyTorgo (86) 1 - Telle - Poli (51) 4 - Lathum - Autumn (67), CrimsonFox (81), Chief Rum (87), RealDeal (93) 1 - Chief Rum - Darth Vilus (62) Yet to vote: J23, Passacaglia As far as i know, the people around were me, Lathum, CF, DaddyTorgo, EagleFan and ... ? KWhit I guess. The only people who could really break the tie by themselves were me, EF and KWhit out of those (Lathum and CF having a self-preservation vote already).

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