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st.cronin · 07-01-2008, 06:06 PM

I guess we still have 3 people left to vote.

claphamsa · 07-01-2008, 06:12 PM

welll this sucks...
I have a game at 815 so i have to leave at 7 and still need to eat dinner and find my sticks (if you were a hockey stick where would you be?)

im the seer.

claphamsa · 07-01-2008, 06:14 PM

and if anyone cares... ive put in the order to scan lathum, since hes like always awolf.

Lathum · 07-01-2008, 06:16 PM

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Originally Posted by claphamsa

and if anyone cares... ive put in the order to scan lathum, since hes like always awolf.

this is how I know you are lying.

A real seer would never say who they are scanning because it would make that person an obvious night target.

claphamsa · 07-01-2008, 06:18 PM

im not lying lathum. im trying to save m life!

although you do have a good point

I never claimed to be very good at this!

Ill send a new order shortly!

st.cronin · 07-01-2008, 06:18 PM

I think he's probably lying, too. I don't think in a game with no bodyguard the seer would reveal, even if he was about to be lynched.

The duke is obviously free to decide for himself, but I think we are getting lucky day 1.

claphamsa · 07-01-2008, 06:20 PM

ok, new pm...I was thinkign this is the first time iver ever been the seer!

claphamsa · 07-01-2008, 06:21 PM

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Originally Posted by st.cronin

I think he's probably lying, too. I don't think in a game with no bodyguard the seer would reveal, even if he was about to be lynched.

The duke is obviously free to decide for himself, but I think we are getting lucky day 1.

i see no reason not to reveal! i want to live!

st.cronin · 07-01-2008, 06:22 PM

Of course, that's why I think there is some probability that you are a villager. I just think there is no probability that you are the hippy.

Lathum · 07-01-2008, 06:23 PM

sorry clap, my vote stays.

can't undo a mistake like that.

And if we are wrong you are dead tonight anyway since there is no BG.

claphamsa · 07-01-2008, 06:24 PM

a mistake like what? im doign what i have to do!

oliegirl · 07-01-2008, 06:24 PM

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For goodness sake....I got the hippie hippie shake...

Passacaglia · 07-01-2008, 06:24 PM

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Originally Posted by oliegirl

Ahhh - so you'll be absent from the game then? Guess I'll be able to enjoy a few days of not being teased...you'll be gone, no pass in this game...yay!

HEY!

oliegirl · 07-01-2008, 06:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Passacaglia

HEY!

LOL

You know I love you Pass!!!!

saldana · 07-01-2008, 06:44 PM

i would suggest that everyone take their vote off of clap...if he isnt a wolf, the wolves have to kill him tonight...if he is alive in the morning, then its because he is a wolf, and we can lynch him tomorrow...leaving him alive tells us more than killing him

vote cronin

Lathum · 07-01-2008, 06:49 PM

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Originally Posted by saldana

i would suggest that everyone take their vote off of clap...if he isnt a wolf, the wolves have to kill him tonight...if he is alive in the morning, then its because he is a wolf, and we can lynch him tomorrow...leaving him alive tells us more than killing him

vote cronin

except based on his play we are pretty sure he is a wolf, so why risk lynching a villager, maybe a valuable one, when we have a perfectly good candidate?

claphamsa · 07-01-2008, 06:51 PM

cuz i not a wolf

just a real bad vileger. i need a vacation :'(

saldana · 07-01-2008, 06:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Lathum

except based on his play we are pretty sure he is a wolf, so why risk lynching a villager, maybe a valuable one, when we have a perfectly good candidate?

someone is going to die tonight no matter what...two vampires, no BG...i am just saying that if we lynch clap, that means we basically force the wolves hands tonight.

saldana · 07-01-2008, 06:59 PM

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Originally Posted by saldana

someone is going to die tonight no matter what...two vampires, no BG...i am just saying that if we lynch clap, that means we basically force the wolves hands tonight.

that should say "if we dont lynch clap"

Lathum · 07-01-2008, 07:02 PM

the only way I will switch is by no lynch.

If there is a kill other then clap tomorrow I think it is pretty cut and dry. Who knows, maybe there is a hidden mechanic where the seer can dodge a night kill since there is no bodyguard.

UNVOTE CLAP
VOTE NO LYNCH

Lathum · 07-01-2008, 07:03 PM

dola- if Clap is a wolf Saldana is the first person I am looking at tomorrow.

st.cronin · 07-01-2008, 07:07 PM

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Originally Posted by saldana

someone is going to die tonight no matter what...two vampires, no BG...i am just saying that if we lynch clap, that means we basically force the wolves hands tonight.

What is the advantage of that? There are only two other roles. There's a duke, which that role is kind of neutered if the seer is really exposed. The other role is the cultist, which we actually want the cultist in play as a possible NK.

saldana · 07-01-2008, 07:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Lathum

the only way I will switch is by no lynch.

If there is a kill other then clap tomorrow I think it is pretty cut and dry. Who knows, maybe there is a hidden mechanic where the seer can dodge a night kill since there is no bodyguard.

UNVOTE CLAP
VOTE NO LYNCH

i would support this premise of going to no lynch, that way we dont have to worry about hitting the real seer if Clap is full of it, and we limit our day1/night 1 loss to a single villager.

unvote cronin
vote no lynch

saldana · 07-01-2008, 07:11 PM

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Originally Posted by st.cronin

What is the advantage of that? There are only two other roles. There's a duke, which that role is kind of neutered if the seer is really exposed. The other role is the cultist, which we actually want the cultist in play as a possible NK.

they have to lynch clap...if they dont, they risk him actually scanning one of them and giving us a real target tomorrow.

st.cronin · 07-01-2008, 07:11 PM

unvote claphamsa
vote saldana

st.cronin · 07-01-2008, 07:14 PM

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Originally Posted by saldana

they have to lynch clap...if they dont, they risk him actually scanning one of them and giving us a real target tomorrow.

I assume you mean nk, not lynch. Yes, my point is that IF clap turns out to be the real seer, that has its advantages for the village. Its better for us to lynch the seer than it is to have the seer nked.

JetsIn06 · 07-01-2008, 07:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Barkeep49

I'm happy to be a plain ole villager.

Jackyl: May I make a suggestion and state that you publicly post what the vanilla villager role PM looked like? It cuts down on secret word shenanigans.

Maybe I'm being dense, but if Barkeep was a "plain ole villager", wouldn't he know that the vanilla villager role PM looked exactly like it does in the post?

Lathum · 07-01-2008, 07:21 PM

not necessaraly.

We had a major problem a while back with people quoting PM's and people being outed because of it and it ruined a few games.

BK probably just was being flavorfull

saldana · 07-01-2008, 07:26 PM

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Originally Posted by st.cronin

unvote claphamsa
vote saldana

interesting...i unvote you, and you then vote me...if you are thinking that i am trying to save clap because we are the two vamps, then why would you not just leave you vote where it was

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Originally Posted by st.cronin

I assume you mean nk, not lynch. Yes, my point is that IF clap turns out to be the real seer, that has its advantages for the village. Its better for us to lynch the seer than it is to have the seer nked.

what advantage is there to lynching the seer as opposed to forcing the wolves to kill him...voting patterns...right now there are at least 4 people on clap, only two of them MIGHT be bad guys...if I were them, i would make sure the two votes were split.

Danny · 07-01-2008, 07:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Lathum

is that for your job?

I hope all is ok.

Everything is fine. I just hadn't had a physical in way too long. Doctor says I'm good as I should be at my age

. Also, too a lot less time than I expected, apparently when I was younger it only seemed like it took hours.

Danny · 07-01-2008, 07:28 PM

Oh and thanks Lathum

Mrs. Schmidty · 07-01-2008, 07:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Barkeep49

I feel bad about being wrong about Lathum in the last game so I will not be voting for him here. That said I'm not sure who I will be voting for.

lol I don't buy that -

VOTE BARKEEP

JetsIn06 · 07-01-2008, 07:34 PM

VOTE BARKEEP

Danny · 07-01-2008, 07:36 PM

What does the total look like now? Oh and now that I have a chance to be involved and catch up

Unvote St. Cronin

Barkeep49 · 07-01-2008, 07:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Mrs. Schmidty

lol I don't buy that -

VOTE BARKEEP

You don't buy what?

Mrs. Schmidty · 07-01-2008, 07:42 PM

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Originally Posted by st.cronin

I assume you mean nk, not lynch. Yes, my point is that IF clap turns out to be the real seer, that has its advantages for the village. Its better for us to lynch the seer than it is to have the seer nked.

How is that better exactly?

Barkeep49 · 07-01-2008, 07:42 PM

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Originally Posted by JetsIn06

Maybe I'm being dense, but if Barkeep was a "plain ole villager", wouldn't he know that the vanilla villager role PM looked exactly like it does in the post?

I skimmed the rules yesterday. Frankly I saw cronin hinting at the text of my PM with his check-in post, hence my suggestion. At no point, until Jackal said it, did I realize it matched.

Mrs. Schmidty · 07-01-2008, 07:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Barkeep49

You don't buy what?

That you feel so bad about voting Lathum last game that you wouldn't vote him this game. My first thought is Barkeep and Lathum are wolves from that statement.

Barkeep49 · 07-01-2008, 07:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Mrs. Schmidty

That you feel so bad about voting Lathum last game that you wouldn't vote him this game. My first thought is Barkeep and Lathum are wolves from that statement.

I'm not saying I would never vote for him, but D1? That seems like a completely acceptable reason to not vote D1.

Danny · 07-01-2008, 07:46 PM

Seems like it would be too obvious for that to indicate Barkeep is a wolf. Why would a wolf post that?

Lathum · 07-01-2008, 07:47 PM

yeah, BK is right.

It's the same as me saying I would never vote Saldana day 1 unless it was to save my own hide.

Danny · 07-01-2008, 07:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Barkeep49

I'm not saying I would never vote for him, but D1? That seems like a completely acceptable reason to not vote D1.

I actually agree. I voted Lathum in the other game twice and didn't vote for him when making my basically random vote before I left just because of that.

Danny · 07-01-2008, 07:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Lathum

the only way I will switch is by no lynch.

If there is a kill other then clap tomorrow I think it is pretty cut and dry. Who knows, maybe there is a hidden mechanic where the seer can dodge a night kill since there is no bodyguard.

UNVOTE CLAP
VOTE NO LYNCH

Not sure about this. The wolves may skip killing clap tonight knowing we would then lynch him tomorrow and would have potentially eliminated three villagers very easily.

Barkeep49 · 07-01-2008, 07:53 PM

I hate no Lynch. Especially in a game with no BG. There is no information to be gained by not lynching someone. Get the stake ready and drive it through someone's heart. This is a brutal game.

Lathum · 07-01-2008, 07:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Danny

Not sure about this. The wolves may skip killing clap tonight knowing we would then lynch him tomorrow and would have potentially eliminated three villagers very easily.

well then they run the risk of Clap identifying one of them.

Barkeep49 · 07-01-2008, 07:56 PM

FTR I think a game with this setup actually runs better with 11. I asked Jackal to cap it at 10, so the villagers are at a disadvantage, depending on the tie breaker.

Lathum · 07-01-2008, 08:00 PM

well it looks like no lynch isn't getting much action so

UNVOTE NO LYNCH
VOTE SALDANA

st.cronin · 07-01-2008, 08:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Mrs. Schmidty

How is that better exactly?

Assume clap is the seer, and he gets lynched. The vampires then have a 1/7 chance of killing the cultist. Assume clap is the seer, and we don't lynch him. The vampires then have a 100% chance of killing the seer, and a 0% chance of killing the cultist.

In both scenarios the seer dies - but in the former there is also a small chance the cultist goes down in flames, too.

saldana · 07-01-2008, 08:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Lathum

well it looks like no lynch isn't getting much action so

UNVOTE NO LYNCH
VOTE SALDANA

again, i dont get it...an hour ago you were so convinced that clap was a wolf, and now you are suddenly convinced i am

if i were a vamp, do you honestly think i would be so blatant as to throw myself into such an early and obvious alliance with my teammate when there are only two wolves? you must really think i suck at this

saldana · 07-01-2008, 08:07 PM

anyone have a count

07-01-2008, 06:06 PM	#101
st.cronin General Manager Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: New Mexico	I guess we still have 3 people left to vote. __________________ co-commish: bb-bbcf.net knives out

07-01-2008, 06:12 PM	#102
claphamsa Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: non white trash MD	welll this sucks... I have a game at 815 so i have to leave at 7 and still need to eat dinner and find my sticks (if you were a hockey stick where would you be?) im the seer. __________________ Dominating Warewolf for 0 games! GIT R DUN!!!

07-01-2008, 06:14 PM	#103
claphamsa Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: non white trash MD	and if anyone cares... ive put in the order to scan lathum, since hes like always awolf. __________________ Dominating Warewolf for 0 games! GIT R DUN!!!

07-01-2008, 06:18 PM	#105
claphamsa Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: non white trash MD	im not lying lathum. im trying to save m life! although you do have a good point I never claimed to be very good at this! Ill send a new order shortly! __________________ Dominating Warewolf for 0 games! GIT R DUN!!!

07-01-2008, 06:18 PM	#106
st.cronin General Manager Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: New Mexico	I think he's probably lying, too. I don't think in a game with no bodyguard the seer would reveal, even if he was about to be lynched. The duke is obviously free to decide for himself, but I think we are getting lucky day 1. __________________ co-commish: bb-bbcf.net knives out

07-01-2008, 06:20 PM	#107
claphamsa Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: non white trash MD	ok, new pm...I was thinkign this is the first time iver ever been the seer! __________________ Dominating Warewolf for 0 games! GIT R DUN!!!

07-01-2008, 06:22 PM	#109
st.cronin General Manager Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: New Mexico	Of course, that's why I think there is some probability that you are a villager. I just think there is no probability that you are the hippy. __________________ co-commish: bb-bbcf.net knives out

07-01-2008, 06:23 PM	#110
Lathum Favored Bitch #1 Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: homeless in NJ	sorry clap, my vote stays. can't undo a mistake like that. And if we are wrong you are dead tonight anyway since there is no BG.

07-01-2008, 06:24 PM	#111
claphamsa Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: non white trash MD	a mistake like what? im doign what i have to do! __________________ Dominating Warewolf for 0 games! GIT R DUN!!!

07-01-2008, 06:44 PM	#115
saldana Pro Starter Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Bethlehem, Pa	i would suggest that everyone take their vote off of clap...if he isnt a wolf, the wolves have to kill him tonight...if he is alive in the morning, then its because he is a wolf, and we can lynch him tomorrow...leaving him alive tells us more than killing him vote cronin

07-01-2008, 06:51 PM	#117
claphamsa Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: non white trash MD	cuz i not a wolf just a real bad vileger. i need a vacation :'( __________________ Dominating Warewolf for 0 games! GIT R DUN!!!

07-01-2008, 07:02 PM	#120
Lathum Favored Bitch #1 Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: homeless in NJ	the only way I will switch is by no lynch. If there is a kill other then clap tomorrow I think it is pretty cut and dry. Who knows, maybe there is a hidden mechanic where the seer can dodge a night kill since there is no bodyguard. UNVOTE CLAP VOTE NO LYNCH

07-01-2008, 07:03 PM	#121
Lathum Favored Bitch #1 Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: homeless in NJ	dola- if Clap is a wolf Saldana is the first person I am looking at tomorrow.

07-01-2008, 07:11 PM	#125
st.cronin General Manager Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: New Mexico	unvote claphamsa vote saldana __________________ co-commish: bb-bbcf.net knives out

07-01-2008, 07:21 PM	#128
Lathum Favored Bitch #1 Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: homeless in NJ	not necessaraly. We had a major problem a while back with people quoting PM's and people being outed because of it and it ruined a few games. BK probably just was being flavorfull

07-01-2008, 07:28 PM	#131
Danny Head Coach Join Date: Jul 2001	Oh and thanks Lathum

07-01-2008, 07:34 PM	#133
JetsIn06 Pro Rookie Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Rahway, NJ	VOTE BARKEEP

07-01-2008, 07:36 PM	#134
Danny Head Coach Join Date: Jul 2001	What does the total look like now? Oh and now that I have a chance to be involved and catch up Unvote St. Cronin

07-01-2008, 07:46 PM	#140
Danny Head Coach Join Date: Jul 2001	Seems like it would be too obvious for that to indicate Barkeep is a wolf. Why would a wolf post that?

07-01-2008, 07:47 PM	#141
Lathum Favored Bitch #1 Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: homeless in NJ	yeah, BK is right. It's the same as me saying I would never vote Saldana day 1 unless it was to save my own hide.

07-01-2008, 07:53 PM	#144
Barkeep49 Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Not too far away	I hate no Lynch. Especially in a game with no BG. There is no information to be gained by not lynching someone. Get the stake ready and drive it through someone's heart. This is a brutal game.

07-01-2008, 07:56 PM	#146
Barkeep49 Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Not too far away	FTR I think a game with this setup actually runs better with 11. I asked Jackal to cap it at 10, so the villagers are at a disadvantage, depending on the tie breaker.

07-01-2008, 08:00 PM	#147
Lathum Favored Bitch #1 Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: homeless in NJ	well it looks like no lynch isn't getting much action so UNVOTE NO LYNCH VOTE SALDANA

07-01-2008, 08:07 PM	#150
saldana Pro Starter Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Bethlehem, Pa	anyone have a count

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