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Old 04-06-2009, 10:31 PM   #101
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Was this simply about Kal Penn's contract? I thought it was odd that he wasn't even shown once in the episode. Not even the body on the floor. Sounds kind of like an out-of-the-blue storyline with no buildup or anything.

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Old 04-06-2009, 10:36 PM   #102
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i dunno. i presume that's what it was. weird that he wasn't included at least for a second in the show though and his contract didn't run through the whole season
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Old 04-06-2009, 10:42 PM   #103
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Makes me think there is something odd about the whole situation. Creative differences or something like that and he walked off set. Guess we'll find out soon enough.
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Old 04-06-2009, 10:48 PM   #104
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If this was the writer's decision, it was a horrible one. I can't fathom why you would write him off and leave these other two characters...especially 13, she offers nothing to the show at all.
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Old 04-07-2009, 01:14 AM   #106
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Apparently there is more to the story that is going to be revealed late tonight.

'House' spoiler alert: They did WHAT to WHO?! | House | Ausiello Files | EW.com

If it was Fox's decision, it has to be a financial one. Kal probably has to be one of the higher paid stars on the show and perhaps with the economy, they decided he was expendable. I really liked his character and think he's a great actor. The show has gone downhill in my opinion the last couple seasons and this doesn't help.
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Old 04-07-2009, 02:27 AM   #107
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So he left the show to take a job with the White House. Not kidding.

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that cool - good for him!
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Old 04-07-2009, 02:49 AM   #109
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wow, that's a hell of a career change. Very neat.
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Old 04-07-2009, 08:23 AM   #110
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I loved last night's episode. I can't wait to see where they go with the various characters' handling of the emotions this stirs up. Also, that is a very cool career change for Kal Penn.
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Old 04-07-2009, 08:34 AM   #111
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It's still a wild career move. He was an up and coming actor who probably had a few lead movie roles in his future (he has already had a few smaller ones). He's essentially giving up millions of dollars.

Reading his profile, he's a pretty smart dude. Double majored at UCLA and working on a graduate degree at Stanford for International Security. Would not be surprised to see him pop up as a Congressman someday.
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Old 04-07-2009, 08:34 AM   #112
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I loved last night's episode. I can't wait to see where they go with the various characters' handling of the emotions this stirs up. Also, that is a very cool career change for Kal Penn.

This is pretty much how I feel. I really enjoyed last night's episode. I was actually suprised to see the opposite reactions from people here when I read this thread this morning.
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Old 04-07-2009, 08:44 AM   #113
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I loved the episode too and really thought they grasped suicide real well. Suicide is shocking and leaves loved ones with no answers. It's often times unexpected. I like the fact they didn't give a black and white reason for it as we normally don't get that in real life.

The ending was particularly well done. Loved House going through the photos and finding the one where he was a little sad. The show drives me nuts as it can go off the rails for half a season and then pull out a masterpiece every once in awhile to keep you in the show.

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Old 04-07-2009, 08:54 AM   #114
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My best friend comitted suicide this past November. Watching this episode was unbelievably tough for me. You simply can't understand the emotions involved until/unless you experience it first hand and the way the dreams go away only to come back again...just like last night.
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Old 04-07-2009, 09:06 AM   #115
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My best friend comitted suicide this past November. Watching this episode was unbelievably tough for me. You simply can't understand the emotions involved until/unless you experience it first hand and the way the dreams go away only to come back again...just like last night.

I had a friend in college who killed himself out of the blue. Was a real nice guy, we ate lunch in a group everyday. Decent student, normal family, and had a cute girlfriend. Sometimes we don't see what demons someone is dealing with deep down inside though.

It's the most bizarre thing you'll ever go through. You feel guilty for not realizing something was wrong. Confused as to why they'd do it. Sad that you'll never see them again. It gives you that feeling that makes you question your judgment and perception on life. I think the show captured it perfectly.
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Old 04-07-2009, 09:16 AM   #116
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hmm - i don't think i gave the impression i disliked last night's episode, just that i was shocked when i thought it was the writer's decision to write him out. but now that i understand that it was his choice to change careers, i'm fine with it, and either way i thought it was a very powerful episode
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Old 04-07-2009, 07:45 PM   #117
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I had a friend in college who killed himself out of the blue. Was a real nice guy, we ate lunch in a group everyday. Decent student, normal family, and had a cute girlfriend. Sometimes we don't see what demons someone is dealing with deep down inside though.

It's the most bizarre thing you'll ever go through. You feel guilty for not realizing something was wrong. Confused as to why they'd do it. Sad that you'll never see them again. It gives you that feeling that makes you question your judgment and perception on life. I think the show captured it perfectly.

Unfortunately, my friend's was not a surprise...or not as much as something like that can be. Not a day within the last five months that I haven't thought about it though.

I do think the show did a good job of it and the main reason why is the fact I was so angry about it and had so many of the same emotions brought back.
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Old 04-08-2009, 07:42 PM   #118
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After reading about why Kal Penn gave up acting (for what appears to be a soft job doing White House PR, according to the article I saw), I find it appropriate that they eliminated his character by means of a self-inflicted headshot wound.

Quitting a show like House and giving up acting is career suicide.
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Old 04-16-2009, 09:20 AM   #119
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The Mos Def episode was sheer brilliance. What a powerful performance by such a great actor. One can only expect the same next week from Meat Loaf. Next week's episode looks like the end of civilization, or at least that's how they promoted it. I have a feeling one of the team members will be gone after this year and it's looking like Taub.

Just caught up on DVR. I really liked the Mos Def ep. I am not familiar with the movie cited earlier, however, so it seemed fresh and new.

I liked Meat Loaf- but I thought that plot was badly cut short by the suicide plot that they had to shoehorn in, so the medical mystery of the week is cut too short and shallow. As an aside, I think I read that they listed him as "Meat Loaf Aday" in casting- that's not a name, that's a bad diet (and since he has a writer's guild last name, I can no longer call him "Mr. the Loaf").

Also, I guess I just wasn't enthralled with the suicide plot like some people. I have high expectations for that show and that plot was ok, but seemed pretty par for the course with other suicide plots I've seen. I expect more from them. As someone else referenced earlier, the House's Head/Wilson's Heart plot from last season took a wholly unlikeable character, made her sympathetic, and gave one of the most "heartbreaking" death scenes with having a hugely likeable main character having to decide when she dies. That's what I expect from a hugely hyped episode- this was good but by House standards, not much above the average week.

To me, it felt sudden and after seeing the explanation, I felt better for the writers because it made sense that they were backed into a corner and had to rush this one a bit. In this week's (last week's? dang DVR) episode, I absolutely loved the Wilson health food thing as it felt like they were getting back to normal. Also, the Chase-Cameron thing seemed like what they were kindof natural flow building up to and it feels disrupted with the whole Kutner suicide. Suddenly what's going on with them pales in comparison to what just happened.

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I totally agree, SI - they didn't have much of a choice and basically had to get him off fast.
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Old 04-26-2009, 10:41 PM   #121
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Just caught up to this on DVR. Just an amazing episode. They did an awesome job capturing what surrounds the people effected by suicide.
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Old 04-27-2009, 09:19 PM   #122
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Hands down best episode of the season and possibly even the series. 13 at the strip club and bachelor party=awesome. House with the boombox was pretty funny as was him throwing the party in Wilson's apartment. And I liked the return of Amber and the interaction between her and House. Awesome episode.

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Old 04-28-2009, 05:54 AM   #123
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Hands down best episode of the season and possibly even the series. 13 at the strip club and bachelor party=awesome. House with the boombox was pretty funny as was him throwing the party in Wilson's apartment. And I liked the return of Amber and the interaction between her and House. Awesome episode.

I found the whole episode unbelievably boring.
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Old 04-28-2009, 09:49 AM   #124
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Hands down best episode of the season and possibly even the series. 13 at the strip club and bachelor party=awesome. House with the boombox was pretty funny as was him throwing the party in Wilson's apartment. And I liked the return of Amber and the interaction between her and House. Awesome episode.

the medical case was boring - at least the strippers in the rest of it made me look up at the tv

jas is just prone to hyperbole.
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Old 04-28-2009, 10:08 AM   #125
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I'm a huge House fan, but this one was not one of the better episodes of this season. Still was better to watch then any other tv show I watched last night however!

I loved House with the boombox.. that had me cracking up. The scene in the morgue with the flaming alcohol was pretty funny too.

I'm not a big fan of Amber though, and her being back is kind of annoying to me.
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Old 05-11-2009, 09:23 PM   #126
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Well that was confusing. So House obviously hallucinated sleeping with Cuddy and that whole night. He never de-toxed and that lipstick was supposed to be a bottle of vicodin or oxycodone. Then he went to Wilson to get professional help. That's what I got out of it.

The episode was kind of weak and the Chase/Cameron sperm storyline was terrible. Not a good season finale.
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Old 05-11-2009, 09:28 PM   #127
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i thought the episode was interesting, from a house-mindfuck kind of way
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Old 05-11-2009, 09:29 PM   #128
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I thought the last 10 minutes were ok with the reveal. Nothing earth shattering(they've gone down this road a couple times before), but an interesting premise for next season.

The medical story sucked and I agree about the Chase/Cameron story line. Probably not a top 5 episode from this season.
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Old 05-11-2009, 09:31 PM   #129
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That's pretty much the gist of it from my seat. As the hour was approaching the end I thought that everything was headed for too neat of a little bow. I knew a mindfuck was coming, I just wasn't sure how severe.

On a House scale, not that high. It wasn't that surprising or shocking. I'm almost glad there wasn't a cliff-hanger ending leaving me wanting more. I think the show needs a fresh start next year.

Overall, this has been the weakest season. Taub and 13 still don't do it for me.
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Old 05-11-2009, 09:48 PM   #130
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Well at least it was better than House and Cuddy getting together. That would have been much worse. If they go past next season I think they'll mix up the cast. They could kill off 13 or finally get rid of Foreman, Chase, and Cameron. I hope they add someone next year though to spice things up.
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I thought it was an excellent last half of this episode. The first half was fine, not bad or anything, but the last 20 minutes of this episode made it great in my mind... I felt this overall was quite a good season and look forward to next season.
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Old 05-11-2009, 10:06 PM   #132
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Overall, this has been the weakest season. Taub and 13 still don't do it for me.

Taub's decent enough, I despise 13. But yes, this season has been piss poor, and last season wasn't all that impressive either. Show needs something. I dunno what, but it needs something.
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Old 05-11-2009, 11:22 PM   #133
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I should just put this all in the spoiler tab...

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Old 05-12-2009, 09:01 AM   #134
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I thought it was an excellent last half of this episode. The first half was fine, not bad or anything, but the last 20 minutes of this episode made it great in my mind... I felt this overall was quite a good season and look forward to next season.

I'm with you. The 2nd half of this episode made this a great episode for me and I thought the season overall was very good. The question I'm looking forward to seeing answered is if this is really just a vicodin induced psychotic episode or if the death of Kutner and the various other stressors (such as Cameron getting married) have triggered his family history of schizophrenia. Either way, it should be an interesting start to next season.
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I thought it was an excellent last half of this episode. The first half was fine, not bad or anything, but the last 20 minutes of this episode made it great in my mind... I felt this overall was quite a good season and look forward to next season.

Quite right. Some good writing there. Almost Sixth Sensian with the flashbacks.
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Old 09-22-2009, 02:21 AM   #136
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Anyone catch the Season 6 premier tonight? Was really good.

It was a major step away from other episodes and didn't feature any of the regulars outside of House and a short appearance by Wilson. Two hours long but didn't feel like it.

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I thought the first hour was absolutely brilliant. I thought the 2nd hour was very good, but it was brought down by the ridiculousness of the music box. Also, I thought it was much too convenient to have the psychiatrist's father pass away when House was there. Otherwise, it was a great episode and I thought Andre Braugher (sp?) was excellent as the head of psychiatry. Also, I thought the guy that was House's roommate did a good job displaying mania in the first third of the show.
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Old 09-22-2009, 08:50 AM   #138
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if anyone would know about patients like that it'd be you EF!

andre braugher was great - he's such a treat to watch. man i miss Homicide.
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I thought it was great, even though my wife kept annoying me the entire show telling me exactly what each person was suffering from or why they were acting the way they were, or the places where the show was not being accurate. She's back in school for a second masters, this time for school psychology, so her big thing lately has been trying to watch all kinds of movies and shows that have various type of cases involved in the episodes/movie.

I'm sure it is great for her, but it sure makes watching them with her a drag
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I thought it was great, even though my wife kept annoying me the entire show telling me exactly what each person was suffering from or why they were acting the way they were, or the places where the show was not being accurate. She's back in school for a second masters, this time for school psychology, so her big thing lately has been trying to watch all kinds of movies and shows that have various type of cases involved in the episodes/movie.

I'm sure it is great for her, but it sure makes watching them with her a drag

Of course it wasn't accurate. TV is never accurate depicting these sort of things. However, this was much closer to accurate than any other show on network TV that I can remember in the recent past.

Also, I used to do that to my wife years ago, but realized how annoying it was and stopped fairly quickly :P
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The music box bothered me a lot too. The weird thing is that they did a great job of portraying a manic patient. But they sort of built caricatures for the rest of the patients. Andre Braugher was perfect and Franka Potente is one of my favorite actresses. I'm actually kind of sad that they have to go back to the hospital as I got attached to some of those characters.

I still contend for the craziness that goes on during the seasons, the writers can produce some of the best television when they want to. It reminded me a bit of the suicide episode. That one was realistic and portrayed suicide as well as you can on TV. The emotions different people feel and that feeling of never knowing why.
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I really enjoyed the fact no other regulars were in the show and it was all about him. It's amazing how he can carry the whole show like that, he is really a treat to watch.
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if anyone would know about patients like that it'd be you EF!

andre braugher was great - he's such a treat to watch. man i miss Homicide.

Agreed on all points. I love everything he does, even his singing in Duets!
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Is that from last night I am guessing?
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Yep, last night's episode.
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Starting to catch up on the DVR and we just started March's episodes (watched 'Private Lives' last night). So here's a crapload of notes from this season; this ended up being a lot longer than I thought it would.

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I'm still watching this (my wife won't watch this or LOST) but it has been grinding down what with House trying to be normal. I miss the atheist themed shows like the healer-kid (with the greatest House scene of all time where the kid looks at House's leg and House gives him a "don't you even think about it" glare) or the episode where House electrocutes himself to find out if there is a white light at a near-death experience. This year there was only the book that his biological father wrote. I need more of House being obsessed with finding out the answer and not caring about human issues, or getting pissed at nuns (another good episode) or preachers.
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The season finale was very good.
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