What's up with all the serialized dramas now? - Page 3

Honolulu_Blue · 10-12-2006, 12:41 PM

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Originally Posted by JonInMiddleGA

Yes & No.

Yes, in Total Households (10,654,000 to 10,485,000)
No, in Total Viewers 2+ (14,264,000 to 15,829,000)

Bust out some of them thar numbers for us, Little Miss Sunshine. What new shows have been successful thus far?

rkmsuf · 10-12-2006, 12:42 PM

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Originally Posted by JonInMiddleGA

Yes & No.

Yes, in Total Households (10,654,000 to 10,485,000)
No, in Total Viewers 2+ (14,264,000 to 15,829,000)

I just went by the rating, mr poopy pants. 9.6 to 9.4

JonInMiddleGA · 10-12-2006, 12:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Honolulu_Blue

While a lot of these dramas are failing, are there any new shows (other than Heroes and Jericho) that are particularly doing well? New sitcoms? New reality shows? New procedural dramas?

Shark, Ugly Betty, and Brother & Sisters all had higher ratings than Heroes last week. The Nine & Studio 60 both had higher ratings than Jericho.

The difference in those results (vs what was mentioned in the article quoted about new shows) is that some of these were expected to do well (like "Shark") while others were considered iffy prospects or even longshots (like "Heroes", which some had predicted might be the first new show cancelled).

JonInMiddleGA · 10-12-2006, 12:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Honolulu_Blue

Bust out some of them thar numbers for us, Little Miss Sunshine. What new shows have been successful thus far?

Hit this link:
http://www.medialifemagazine.com/art...ticle_7807.asp

If you scroll past the analysis part, the first of several charts below it actually shows this week's numbers for every new show broken out of the total, neatly packaged together for easy comparision

Honolulu_Blue · 10-12-2006, 12:50 PM

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Originally Posted by JonInMiddleGA

Hit this link:
http://www.medialifemagazine.com/art...ticle_7807.asp

If you scroll past the analysis part, the first of several charts below it actually shows this week's numbers for every new show broken out of the total, neatly packaged together for easy comparision

Thanks!

Ksyrup · 10-12-2006, 12:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Honolulu_Blue

It certainly is an investment. I know quite a few people who have become "new viewers" to the show, but it mainly involved going out and buying/renting the DVDs. I missed the first season of "Lost" because I was overseas. I borrowed a tape from a friend, loved it, and then bought the DVDs to catch up in time for Season 2. It's really the only way.

I guess this dovetails with Subby's DVD thread, because it astounds me that someone would buy a $30-40 DVD collection of episodes they've never seen of a show they've barely watched. I had never really thought of those TV DVD collections in that way, to be honest. Hell, if that's what you're going to do with them, the network should be paying YOU to get you hooked on the show, based on the future ratings they're going to get, not the other way around.

rkmsuf · 10-12-2006, 12:51 PM

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Originally Posted by JonInMiddleGA

Hit this link:
http://www.medialifemagazine.com/art...ticle_7807.asp

If you scroll past the analysis part, the first of several charts below it actually shows this week's numbers for every new show broken out of the total, neatly packaged together for easy comparision

Friday Night Lights...doh!

JonInMiddleGA · 10-12-2006, 12:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Honolulu_Blue

Thanks!

No problem.

You might consider bookmarking the main page of that site. It's updated at least four days a week (Mondays are sometimes slow to update) and there's usually an interesting tidbit or two, including analysis of the overnights a lot of days.

While it does talk a lot about TV (from a media buyer's perspective mostly) there's also coverage of other forms of media there too. It's on my "read daily" checklist, just to see if I get some nugget that might be of use to me at some point.

ISiddiqui · 10-12-2006, 12:59 PM

About TIVO and Studio 60, I actually do know some people who though the show was great, but don't/can't stay up for an hour show that begins at 10 PM on Monday.

That, and its on against Monday Night Football, which, granted, is now on ESPN, but still a big draw for men.

wade moore · 10-12-2006, 01:03 PM

I did pretty well with picking new shows it appears - Heroes, Studio 60, and Standoff (not doing as well).

I am curious to see what happens with Studio 60. It's getting a lot of flack for not living up to expectations, but it's doing well relative to new shows...

wade moore · 10-12-2006, 01:03 PM

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It's the magic of TiVO!

Congrats, I laughed out loud on that one

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Bee · 10-12-2006, 01:19 PM

I'm surprised Shark is doing well. I found it to be total crap and was actually looking forward to it initially.

I thought Friday Night Lights was pretty decent and am sad to see it not doing better. Of course, being a football fan might skew my view a little on it.

Heroes, Jericho and Studio 60 are the only other new shows that I'm interested in and they all look safe for at least another week or two.

timmynausea · 10-12-2006, 01:22 PM

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Originally Posted by wade moore

I am curious to see what happens with Studio 60. It's getting a lot of flack for not living up to expectations, but it's doing well relative to new shows...

The thing that worries me about Studio 60 is that it likely has a much larger budget than the other new shows. The cast is pretty much star-studded, especially for a TV show. The West Wing didn't really take off ratingswise until the second year, though, so they may be more apt to give it a chance.

wade moore · 10-12-2006, 01:36 PM

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The thing that worries me about Studio 60 is that it likely has a much larger budget than the other new shows. The cast is pretty much star-studded, especially for a TV show. The West Wing didn't really take off ratingswise until the second year, though, so they may be more apt to give it a chance.

And perhaps, with those bigger stars, there could be some concern about contract guarantees? Like maybe have them have contracts longer than a year in order to do the show?

Pure speculation, but it sure seems possible.

Bee · 10-12-2006, 01:44 PM

I'd also think Aaron Sorkin (or whatever his name is) would get a little more leeway to turn things around than most others because of previous success.

wade moore · 10-12-2006, 01:52 PM

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I'd also think Aaron Sorkin (or whatever his name is) would get a little more leeway to turn things around than most others because of previous success.

Aren't his three big things SportsNight, West Wing, and this?

*checks IMDB*

yeah, and he wrote "A Few Good Men"...

SportsNight, while many enjoy it, didn't do that well...

So, idano that he has the clout of say... Aaron Spelling (before he died).. to get extra time with poor ratings.

10-12-2006, 12:59 PM	#109
ISiddiqui Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Decatur, GA	About TIVO and Studio 60, I actually do know some people who though the show was great, but don't/can't stay up for an hour show that begins at 10 PM on Monday. That, and its on against Monday Night Football, which, granted, is now on ESPN, but still a big draw for men. __________________ "A prayer for the wild at heart, kept in cages" -Tennessee Williams

10-12-2006, 01:19 PM	#112
Bee Pro Starter Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Fairfax, VA	I'm surprised Shark is doing well. I found it to be total crap and was actually looking forward to it initially. I thought Friday Night Lights was pretty decent and am sad to see it not doing better. Of course, being a football fan might skew my view a little on it. Heroes, Jericho and Studio 60 are the only other new shows that I'm interested in and they all look safe for at least another week or two.

10-12-2006, 01:44 PM	#115
Bee Pro Starter Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Fairfax, VA	I'd also think Aaron Sorkin (or whatever his name is) would get a little more leeway to turn things around than most others because of previous success.

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