2012 NFL Regular Season - Week 7: Browns, Eagles Organizational Shake-Up

[oykib]

Originally Posted by tucker rocky

HB'er for TB, but right call was made on WR going OOB, then being the 1st to touch the ball.

At the very least, shouldn't that have been offsetting penalties, with illegal contact on the push?

[Thomkal]

Originally Posted by Radii

Also there's $50 million in RB's getting a combined 14 carries a game. I really don't even understand what they're trying to do.

I saw somewhere, maybe here, that the offensive game plan this year is very different-last year because of the lockout they tailored the plan to plays Newton was familiar/comfortable with. But this game plan is not taking advantage of their biggest strength-running back and until they go back to that the team is going to struggle.

[Masked]

Originally Posted by oykib

At the very least, shouldn't that have been offsetting penalties, with illegal contact on the push?

Freeman was outside the pocket, so illegal contact is no longer possible.

[Matthean]

Originally Posted by Thomkal

so Cam Newton, the magic is pretty much gone huh?

Somewhere here or elsewhere mentioned they ran stuff similar to what he ran at Auburn during his rookie season as where now they are trying to run an offense more towards what they want. I will agree with the lack of talent around him though. They picked first overall for a reason.

[mckerney]

Originally Posted by oykib

At the very least, shouldn't that have been offsetting penalties, with illegal contact on the push?

It should not have been offsetting penalties because illegal touching is not supposed to be called when the receiver is pushed out of bounds and reenters the field of play as quickly as possible, and as was mentioned illegal contact could not be called either.

[Thomkal]

Originally Posted by Matthean

Somewhere here or elsewhere mentioned they ran stuff similar to what he ran at Auburn during his rookie season as where now they are trying to run an offense more towards what they want. I will agree with the lack of talent around him though. They picked first overall for a reason.

Beat you to it!

[DaddyTorgo]

HOW ABOUT SOME FUCKING PASS DEFENSE NEW ENGLAND!?!!?!?!

JEEZUS FUCKING CHRIST!!!!!!

[Lathum]

Originally Posted by TroyF

Roll your eyes if you want, the team plays to the level of their competition and has done it for years. They back up a thrashing of the 49ers on the road with that garbage? I give them all the credit in the world for being the only team that can seem to turn it on anytime they want, but would you want your kid playing like that? How many teams in history have been successful with that type of mantra? About, oh, 1?

Credit all goes to them, but I can't stand watching that style. To each his own.

The suggestion that a team that has won 2 titles and arguable been the best in football over the last 5 years actually thinks they could flip a switch when they feel like it is absurd.

They play hard every game, not always smart, but hard. Counting today they are 54-33 since 2007 in the regular season with 2 titles. I'm totally fine with my kid watching winners like that.

I've always thought you were a bit of an idiot when it comes to football but your post brings it to a whole new level. Well done.

[Suburban Rhythm]

My 6 year old son drew this life like Troy Polamalu on a dry erase board

[Buccaneer]

Just saw that in the TB-NO game, there were 9 TDs but only two kickoff returns (assumed to be the half's kickoffs). Guess they are trying to making KO returns very irrelevant. Got to keep them in case of on-side kicks.

[DaddyTorgo]

104yd return for a TD in the Pats-Jets game.

7-7.

[tucker rocky]

Originally Posted by Suburban Rhythm

My 6 year old son drew this life like Troy Polamalu on a dry erase board

Is Polamalu wearing a dress?

[cuervo72]

Originally Posted by DaddyTorgo

HOW ABOUT SOME FUCKING PASS DEFENSE NEW ENGLAND!?!!?!?!

JEEZUS FUCKING CHRIST!!!!!!

Overreact much?

[BlackJack]

Originally Posted by TroyF

If I had a son, I would make sure he NEVER was allowed to watch a New York Giants football game. Why? Well, what would you want to teach your son:

1) Play hard, no matter who is against you
2) Details matter
3) Never, ever, never assume you can "turn it on" at any given time.
4) The reason you do those things is because you respect the game

were he to watch all of the Giants games in the last four years, he would tell me all of my lessons are wrong and grow up to play like them. And if I had to watch my kid play that way, I'd throw up on a weekly basis, both from the nerves and from the fact I hate to watch that type of team and like it less when they succeed.

What a load of crap. Loosen your skirt, it's cutting off the bloodflow to your brain.

[BlackJack]

Originally Posted by BlackJack

What a load of crap. Loosen your skirt, it's cutting off the bloodflow to your brain.

and yes, that makes no sense, so what

[Suburban Rhythm]

Originally Posted by tucker rocky

Is Polamalu wearing a dress?

Apparently

I'm guessing that pants aggravate his calf

[DaddyTorgo]

Originally Posted by cuervo72

Overreact much?

Nope. Most 20+ yd plays against of any defense in the league.

[TroyF]

Originally Posted by Lathum

The suggestion that a team that has won 2 titles and arguable been the best in football over the last 5 years actually thinks they could flip a switch when they feel like it is absurd.

They play hard every game, not always smart, but hard. Counting today they are 54-33 since 2007 in the regular season with 2 titles. I'm totally fine with my kid watching winners like that.

I've always thought you were a bit of an idiot when it comes to football but your post brings it to a whole new level. Well done.

We already went into this two weeks ago.

Their best year during the run, they didn't win the title. Their two Super Bowl runs were based off of an unbelievable turning on the switch and playing 100% different than what they had all year. Last year, if Tony Romo hits a wide open WR, they aren't even in the playoffs. Last years BEST TEAM IN THE LEAGUE was outscored in the regular season.

They "do" turn on the switch and quite frequently, even in the middle of games and especially at home. This is something they have done for five years running. When the Patriots lost to the Cardinals, it was a stunner. When the Giants go behind by 3 TD's to Tampa at home, it's business as usual.

You can call me an idiot all you want (I don't recall ever having called you anything, but if it makes you feel better about yourself, feel free)

The Giants are an incredible football team. Pass rushers galore, their D Line mauls people. They can beat teams in multiple ways and when they are on, they crush people. I can choose to believe two things:

1) The team doesn't have a ton of talent and loses to Rex Grossman twice in a year and plays pitiful until they MUST win OR

2) It's a pretty damned good football team who sleepwalks through games they aren't interested in.

I look at the talent on both sides of the ball and kind of lead towards option 2. If I'm an idiot for doing that, so be it. I'm such a moron about football I was the one who actually suggested Brandon Jacobs should be MVP of the league, right?

[Suburban Rhythm]

Originally Posted by TroyF

If I had a son, I would make sure he NEVER was allowed to watch a New York Giants football game. Why? Well, what would you want to teach your son:

1) Play hard, no matter who is against you
2) Details matter
3) Never, ever, never assume you can "turn it on" at any given time.
4) The reason you do those things is because you respect the game

were he to watch all of the Giants games in the last four years, he would tell me all of my lessons are wrong and grow up to play like them. And if I had to watch my kid play that way, I'd throw up on a weekly basis, both from the nerves and from the fact I hate to watch that type of team and like it less when they succeed.

[stevew]

Originally Posted by Suburban Rhythm

My 6 year old son drew this life like Troy Polamalu on a dry erase board

He's obviously remembering the days that Troy actually was able to play.

[Buccaneer]

Originally Posted by Buccaneer

Just saw that in the TB-NO game, there were 9 TDs but only two kickoff returns (assumed to be the half's kickoffs). Guess they are trying to making KO returns very irrelevant. Got to keep them in case of on-side kicks.

Originally Posted by DaddyTorgo

104yd return for a TD in the Pats-Jets game.

7-7.

or that.

[stevew]

Originally Posted by Thomkal

well Stephens-Howling ran for 104 yards which is a pretty big accomplishment for a Cards RB of late. But yeah another disappointing game for my beloved Cards.

I dunno if you saw Powell play the week before or not, but he was beast mode and LSH looked like shit. I figured Powell would get 20 carries this week.

[Suburban Rhythm]

Maybe this is a normal sponsor on CBS gametracker, but this made me laugh

[Thomkal]

Originally Posted by stevew

I dunno if you saw Powell play the week before or not, but he was beast mode and LSH looked like shit. I figured Powell would get 20 carries this week.

yeah I did see him play last week, and was expecting him to get the most carries this week, but LSH was the next in line to start after the injuries to the #1 and #2 so I guess that's why he started. Given the stats this week, he'll probably get the next start.

[DaddyTorgo]

intentional safety after a fumble inside the 10 by Green (Wilfork forced it). 16-7 Pats.

[Masked]

Originally Posted by mckerney

It should not have been offsetting penalties because illegal touching is not supposed to be called when the receiver is pushed out of bounds and reenters the field of play as quickly as possible, and as was mentioned illegal contact could not be called either.

The part about illegal touching not supposed to be called is only true if the receiver left the field of play due to a foul by the defender. There was no foul by the defender, so that receiver canout be the first one to touch the ball no matter how long he has been back on the field of play.

[TroyF]

Good lord. Wilfork blew up that play, but it's amazing watching the Jets blow up on a weekly basis.

Of all the time I have ever commented about anything on the board, I really didn't think the post above was going to cause a firestorm. I thought that what the Giants do, even to their fans, would be fairly obvious. That got more anger than my prediction that Leftwich would lead the Jags to some titles.

On another note, that might be the worst pass I have seen in the NFL this year. Are you kidding me? How is this guy an NFL QB?

[cuervo72]

Originally Posted by DaddyTorgo

Nope. Most 20+ yd plays against of any defense in the league.

Pats playing the Jets, and now up 16-9. I think "yep."

[Radii]

Originally Posted by cuervo72

Overreact much?

You must be new here.

[EagleFan]

Originally Posted by mckerney

He was pushed out and then reestablished himself inbounds.

Doesn't matter. He can't be first to touch the ball. If it was tipped then he could catch it, the re-establish is just to keep the play from being dead as soon as he touched it (ie: if someone tipped the ball and he touched it before getting his second foot back in bounds he would still be "out of bounds" and the play would be dead at that moment).

[TroyF]

watching NE now and am wondering why the hell they have spent the last couple of plays leaving guys wide open in the center of the field. Guys, that's the one single area of the field where the guy can kill you. he just missed a wide open guy down the sidelines. Why would your strategy be this? Not logical.

[stevew]

I wonder if Arizona will go 4-12 the hard way.

[stevew]

made some Carolina BBQ today...tastes pretty good but I think i like the sweet baby ray's version better

[Pumpy Tudors]

If the replacement officials had been in Tampa today, not only would Tampa have been given credit for a touchdown on that last play, but they probably would've been granted two points on the extra point attempt to get credit for the win in regulation.

[stevew]

The Pats throwback jersey with the snapping guy are way better than their current garbage uniform.

[Abe Sargent]

I looked up the NFl.com and saw the Jagurs winning convincingly at halftime. What is that about?

[Dutch]

...depressed...

[Pumpy Tudors]

Originally Posted by Abe Sargent

I looked up the NFl.com and saw the Jagurs winning convincingly at halftime. What is that about?

Look at who they're playing against.

[Matthean]

Originally Posted by Abe Sargent

I looked up the NFl.com and saw the Jagurs winning convincingly at halftime. What is that about?

Oakland is involved.

[Abe Sargent]

I don't care if they are playing the Boone County Vo Tech squad, they should not be up 17-6 at the half.

[tucker rocky]

Cam Newton sounding like his dog died.

[tucker rocky]

Originally Posted by Abe Sargent

I don't care if they are playing the Boone County Vo Tech squad, they should not be up 17-6 at the half.

3-0 is probably more suitable for that team.

[Pumpy Tudors]

Originally Posted by Abe Sargent

I don't care if they are playing the Boone County Vo Tech squad, they should not be up 17-6 at the half.

You're right. Against the Raiders, they should be up by at least 20.

[Radii]

Originally Posted by Abe Sargent

I looked up the NFl.com and saw the Jagurs winning convincingly at halftime. What is that about?

I picked oakland in kingfc's pick-em contest. I doomed them singlehandedly.

[Suicane75]

I'm fucking sick of watching "tackles" being attempted with shoulders. Somewhere along the line the point of this game was lost.

[BillJasper]

Newton throws his offensive coordinator under the bus.

[Pumpy Tudors]

Originally Posted by Suicane75

I'm fucking sick of watching "tackles" being attempted with shoulders. Somewhere along the line the point of this game was lost.

But that's how Troy Polamalu tackles in his 5 games per year, and he is the greatest defensive player in the history of NFL history!!!!!!111111111!!!!!!!!!!111!!2

[JPhillips]

Question for tonight's game:

Will the Bengals still be in it at halftime?

[DaddyTorgo]

Well if Hill doesn't drop that wide-open pass the Pats would have no doubt lost this game in regulation right there.

[Suicane75]

I'm beginning to get sick of this player safety shit the nflpa and guys like Bill Simmons are going on and on about. If these idiots can't tackle using their arms and hands then they can go fuck themselves. Shrivel up and get dementia for all i care.