WW CXLIX SPAWN IV - GAME OVER (Post 3845)

[Chief Rum]

Originally Posted by Autumn

Yes, I think the fence-related stuff doesn't make any sense to get all suspicious of Hoops for. He actually helped us by fixing the fence. That would not be a very sneaky wolf move.

I'd like to see people putting in work orders though. Particularly I'd like to see Dubb scanned soon, and the fence repaired soon. These are things we want to see results of sooner than later.

Didn't you assign DV to the fence? He just checked in and checked out, and it sounds like he won't be back for a bit.

[Danny]

Zinto has been awfully quiet. He is normally much more active. I forgot he was playing

[dubb93]

Originally Posted by Danny

Your post sounds like you are playing a different game than me. No one is ordering you to do anything.

Maybe, but the log does clearly say I spyed on someone last night.

Come on now, Danny. Don't try and BS your way through public facts. The log clearly says:

Meanwhile Danny & dubb are seen lurking in the Crew Quarters.

It says you were "lurking." If it said you would spying? Yea that would be great. But lurking! Lurking could be anything from masturbating to attacking me.

[JAG]

DV was already here so we should see what his work result was before Simbo submits. And Chief / dubb should hold off til the scan.

[Danny]

Originally Posted by dubb93

It says you were "lurking." If it said you would spying? Yea that would be great. But lurking! Lurking could be anything from masturbating to attacking me.

I suppose. I promise I didn't attack you, though I can't say the same for the masturbating part, Autumn is awfully dreamy.

[Chief Rum]

Originally Posted by dubb93

Come on now, Danny. Don't try and BS your way through public facts. The log clearly says:



It says you were "lurking." If it said you would spying? Yea that would be great. But lurking! Lurking could be anything from masturbating to attacking me.

To be fair, you're "lurking" too.

[britrock88]

And is firing the phaser something a spawn could do to distract the crew?

[britrock88]

That thought gives me pause about saldana scanning dubb -- the doctor is very valuable in this ruleset. If dubb were fully spawn, it'd be a 1:1 kill. How long would it then take to Abe to train, or for LSG to promote, shiggles into a doctor?

[Zinto]

What exactly happened with Hoops and the fence? I am not sure I understand why everyone got into a huff about it

[Chief Rum]

Sounds like dubb is accusing Danny of firing something off, that's for sure.

[Chief Rum]

Originally Posted by Zinto

What exactly happened with Hoops and the fence? I am not sure I understand why everyone got into a huff about it

If you get an answer, let me know, too.

[britrock88]

All the same, given that we don't know how many spawn there are (I don't expect there to be many -- after all, rules say there was a phaser for each survivor and we started the game with 19 phasers), a 1:1 tradeoff might not be the worst thing, provided we can replace saldana.

[Danny]

It is interesting that Dubb spyed on Saldana night one and now wants Saldana to clear him. Certainly improbable, but something to watch out for at some point that a Dubb / Saldana combo could be trying to weasel into a circle of trust.

[Julio Riddols]

Originally Posted by Autumn

Well, we just need Saldana to scan Dubb before you guys go to work.

I would rather not have you (or anyone uncleared) on the same detail every day, Chief. That's why I switched you guys in the work order, and so it's interesting that both you and Julio have suggested switching you back.

I suggested this because I thought dubb had to actually stay with the doc and wouldn't be able to perform the task if he did so. Now we know he doesn't have to miss out on doing his duty, so my initial point there has been rendered moot.

[Danny]

Originally Posted by Chief Rum

Sounds like dubb is accusing Danny of firing something off, that's for sure.

Dubb already claimed he fired the phaser. I am pretty sure I heard a phaser shot.

[Julio Riddols]

Originally Posted by Zinto

What exactly happened with Hoops and the fence? I am not sure I understand why everyone got into a huff about it

I'm mostly worried about hoops because he is our chief engineer and he hasn't had a gun to protect himself. The way we have been pushing to convert things, you'd think the spawn peeps would probably want to curtail that, right? That's just my thought process on the whole thing. If he doesn't get enough traction, no big deal, but that's just where I see the most logic at the moment.

[Julio Riddols]

I'll state again that I like the idea of converting the water facility and allowing ourselves to dehydrate methodically.

[Zinto]

I understand that line of thinking Julio but all the converting thus far has gone as planned so it is unlikely that Hoops is bad at this point, unless he was converted last night.

[hoopsguy]

Julio, before we pursue anything along the lines of a dehydration strategy we had better get some clarification on how that would play out. I've gone through this exercise in previous games, but I want to make sure it behaves the same way.

Here is what I would expect:
1.) Everyone gets a drink as long as (available water units) > (# of players) - in other words, we can't deny a single player for two days.
2.) When we get to that lower amount, what is the logic? Ordered by captain? Random.org? I don't recall that part, but BK could probably provide the answer if we wanted to push this sometime later in the game.

[JAG]

Originally Posted by Danny

It is interesting that Dubb spyed on Saldana night one and now wants Saldana to clear him. Certainly improbable, but something to watch out for at some point that a Dubb / Saldana combo could be trying to weasel into a circle of trust.

None of saldana's scans can be taken as confirmed until his alligience is confirmed, but I think dubb has a reasonable point that he doesn't want to be cleared so much as cured of a possible infestation.

[britrock88]

Dehydration is effective, but dangerous. You have to eliminate all water reserves (because we must use all the water available to us). So if the spawn were to attack the generator after the beginning of the dehydration plan, we might be toast. Also, IIRC, don't spawn show up as dehydrated like survivors after 1 day without water, and simply not die after day 2 without water? That was the Spawn 1 mechanic -- I don't know if it still plays the same way.

[JAG]

Just going to throw this out there also. Is it significant that only dubb's phaser was fired? If the spawn that attacked had a phaser, would it have been fired too? That would eliminate a number of people as not being involved in the attack, but I suspect we don't know the answer.

[Julio Riddols]

Originally Posted by hoopsguy

Julio, before we pursue anything along the lines of a dehydration strategy we had better get some clarification on how that would play out. I've gone through this exercise in previous games, but I want to make sure it behaves the same way.

Here is what I would expect:
1.) Everyone gets a drink as long as (available water units) > (# of players) - in other words, we can't deny a single player for two days.
2.) When we get to that lower amount, what is the logic? Ordered by captain? Random.org? I don't recall that part, but BK could probably provide the answer if we wanted to push this sometime later in the game.

I decide who gets the water, so as long as we have 9 units at a time available, I can ensure that the right people get it. We would have to make sure we get water on a pretty frequent basis, but I think one small team should be able to handle that at a time. I'd also be willing to take suggestions on who to give the water, but theoretically, this seems like a solid idea as a way to directly combat any numbers of spawn that may arise.

[Julio Riddols]

Originally Posted by britrock88

Also, IIRC, don't spawn show up as dehydrated like survivors after 1 day without water, and simply not die after day 2 without water? That was the Spawn 1 mechanic -- I don't know if it still plays the same way.

Oh - if this is the case, then dehydration is a terrible strategy.

[Barkeep49]

The fence continues to trouble everyone and so Engineer Vilus decides to see what he can do about it. His repairs definitely seemed to have done something but it's impossible to say for how long they'll hold.

Abe decides to train Shiggles and the two disappear into the Lab for the remainder of the day.

After a satisfying sandwich for lunch Julio heads down to help convert the Crew Quarters.

[Barkeep49]

saldana takes dubb behind closed doors to begin his exam...

[Autumn]

Schmidty and Britrock: Both do Research: High level of research towards honing spawn scanning thing (you two can submit this order now, I don't think there is anything more useful to do than work on that)

*saldana: Investigate someone

Danny: Pass out weapons

*CrimsonFox: Investigate what's wrong with the fence

*Hoopsguy: Lead team of 5 to convert crew quarters
*Hoopsguy: reroute power from backup to areas covered by facility 2
*Autumn - convert crew quarters
Zinto - convert crew quarters
PackerFanatic - convert crew quarters
Chief Rum - convert crew quarters
*Julio Riddols - convert crew quarters

Simbo Klice: lead slave team to convert crew quarters
Chubby: Lead slave team to work with Simbo on crew quarters

*Darth Vilus: repair perimeter fence

*Abe: Train Shiggles to be a doctor

Dubb: Man Security HQ

Shiggles: ?

JAG: ?

Lonestargirl: ?

[JAG]

Britrock, please confirm you submitted the research action when you next show up. Also, it looks like Shiggles is out for the day being trained so can't be used for another duty.

[JAG]

Simbo, you're good to go supervising crew quarter conversion now, taking 6 slaves with you.

[Autumn]

Schmidty: Highest level of research
Britrock: Highest level of research

*saldana: Investigate someone

Danny: Pass out weapons

*CrimsonFox: Investigate what's wrong with the fence

*Hoopsguy: Lead team of 5 to convert crew quarters
*Hoopsguy: reroute power from backup to areas covered by facility 2
*Autumn - convert crew quarters
Zinto - convert crew quarters
PackerFanatic - convert crew quarters
Chief Rum - convert crew quarters
*Julio Riddols - convert crew quarters

Simbo Klice: lead slave team to convert crew quarters
Chubby: Lead slave team to work with Simbo on crew quarters

*Darth Vilus: repair perimeter fence

*Abe: Train Shiggles to be a doctor

Dubb: Man Security HQ

*Shiggles: Training with Abe

JAG: ?

Lonestargirl: ?

[hoopsguy]

Tap tap tap ... waiting to see results on that scan.

[Barkeep49]

Both men emerge from the medical facility some time later.

[britrock88]

Originally Posted by JAG

Britrock, please confirm you submitted the research action when you next show up. Also, it looks like Shiggles is out for the day being trained so can't be used for another duty.

Done!

[Chubby]

just got caught up...

hoops - refresh my memory on what you did last night

[hoopsguy]

Originally Posted by Barkeep49

Both men emerge from the medical facility some time later.

Hugely conclusive.

[saldana]

Dubb is a spawnling...I cannot cure him

vote Dubb

[hoopsguy]

Originally Posted by Chubby

just got caught up...

hoops - refresh my memory on what you did last night

Worked on converting one of the facilities (#2?) - I had expected/hoped that Crimson was going to be working with me at that time, but it appears that there was some miscommunication so I was solo doing the work.

[hoopsguy]

Originally Posted by saldana

Dubb is a spawnling...I cannot cure him

vote Dubb

Checked rules, this is a possibility.

If the crew member is infected, but has not yet become a spawn, the doctor will learn this, and will have a good chance to cure the crew member

BK - would we learn if someone was Spawnling upon lynch?

[dubb93]

Originally Posted by saldana

Dubb is a spawnling...I cannot cure him

vote Dubb

Well it sucks, but I can confirm Saldana is a poor doctor. Really have nothing o say here in my defense.

[hoopsguy]

Dola, as opposed to just being revealed as Survivor like we saw for Mauboy yesterday?

[Autumn]

Originally Posted by dubb93

Well it sucks, but I can confirm Saldana is a poor doctor. Really have nothing o say here in my defense.

lol, you're the one who thought you were infected. Now you're sure you're not?

[Autumn]

Originally Posted by saldana

Dubb is a spawnling...I cannot cure him

vote Dubb

So Saldana, you had a chance to cure him during the examination but it failed?

[hoopsguy]

Originally Posted by dubb93

Well it sucks, but I can confirm Saldana is a poor doctor. Really have nothing o say here in my defense.

Did your PM make it pretty clear to you that you were Spawnling?

[Chubby]

Originally Posted by hoopsguy

Worked on converting one of the facilities (#2?) - I had expected/hoped that Crimson was going to be working with me at that time, but it appears that there was some miscommunication so I was solo doing the work.

"one of the facilities (#2?)" doesn't narrow it down care you to double check?

[dubb93]

Originally Posted by hoopsguy

Did your PM make it pretty clear to you that you were Spawnling?

No.

It seemed Saldana found something that concerned him. Then he left the room without answering my questions.

[hoopsguy]

Originally Posted by Chubby

"one of the facilities (#2?)" doesn't narrow it down care you to double check?

I suppose I'm allowed to quote a PM I sent, just not stuff BK sends me

"I want to work on conversion of Power Facility #2, and supervise Crimson if he joins me there."

[Autumn]

That's rude. I'd give him a poor physician evaluation.

[Barkeep49]

The science lab sees some more activity as britrock seems to be performing some research.

[JAG]

Originally Posted by saldana

Dubb is a spawnling...I cannot cure him

vote Dubb

Just to be clear, you were told his condition was incurable? I'm wondering if this was just a 'bad die roll' or they used a suped-up attack that can't be cured?

[Chubby]

Originally Posted by hoopsguy

I suppose I'm allowed to quote a PM I sent, just not stuff BK sends me

"I want to work on conversion of Power Facility #2, and supervise Crimson if he joins me there."

so does that explains the brig not being operational? clearly, your work should have affected only Building C; correct?