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Old 06-03-2008, 01:33 PM   #1451
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This makes even more sense.

Forgot about the double scan. Nope, no it doesn't make more sense.
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Old 06-03-2008, 01:33 PM   #1452
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This makes even more sense.

The fact that you believe that is pretty damning.
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Old 06-03-2008, 01:34 PM   #1453
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That would be ... incredible.

Yeah, I'm not trying to say I believe that. Just wondering why RendeR would do that. Seems like a poor play as a wolf.
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Old 06-03-2008, 01:35 PM   #1454
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The fact that you believe that is pretty damning.

Nah, more like the fact that I still couldn't bring myself to trust SL, and forgot about the double scan thing. (Keep in mind, if you are trusting Olie, I scanned good. Which I am.)

HOWEVER.

I still think we have way way WAY too many powers on our side. Something's not right here.
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Old 06-03-2008, 01:35 PM   #1455
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You were told KWhit had made the attack?


I was told I blocked Kwhit.
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Old 06-03-2008, 01:35 PM   #1456
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Or there are two bodyguards, which would explain you seeing two people.

I think the simplest explanation is that the BG was fighting, and two people (attacker and victim) were around him.
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Old 06-03-2008, 01:37 PM   #1457
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I think the simplest explanation is that the BG was fighting, and two people (attacker and victim) were around him.

Simple explanations are nice. This game seems to be moving away from simplicity though. Wrinkles galore?

I guess we can deal with this RendeR business as we're lynching KWhit, at least we have that going for us.
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Old 06-03-2008, 01:37 PM   #1458
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Nah, more like the fact that I still couldn't bring myself to trust SL, and forgot about the double scan thing. (Keep in mind, if you are trusting Olie, I scanned good. Which I am.)

HOWEVER.

I still think we have way way WAY too many powers on our side. Something's not right here.

I forgot that you were scanned good -- thanks for reminding me.
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Old 06-03-2008, 01:38 PM   #1459
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I was told I blocked Kwhit.

Cool. So, faced with olie's scan of Sea Lion as good, and cronin vouching that Sea Lion was the one he followed, you're still sticking to your story?
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Old 06-03-2008, 01:39 PM   #1460
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Yeah, I'm not trying to say I believe that. Just wondering why RendeR would do that. Seems like a poor play as a wolf.


Show of hands: How many of you out there thought it even the slightest bit odd that I CONTINUOUSLY questioned the BG revealing? that I kept nagging and talking against the idea?

Not the slightest bit of a hint there? =) i thought I was being so ridiculously obvious.
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Old 06-03-2008, 01:40 PM   #1461
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We know who we're lynching today. I think that's pretty damn obvious, and it's the safe play.

Now, topic for discussion.

What happens if KWhit is good?
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Old 06-03-2008, 01:40 PM   #1462
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I excluded KWhit from the list.

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1.Hoopsguy
5.Lathum- claimed fool, scanned clear by olie
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Old 06-03-2008, 01:40 PM   #1463
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Show of hands: How many of you out there thought it even the slightest bit odd that I CONTINUOUSLY questioned the BG revealing? that I kept nagging and talking against the idea?

Not the slightest bit of a hint there? =) i thought I was being so ridiculously obvious.

Actually, I saw you decide that there was no reason for the BG to NOT reveal, then backtrack on that decision a short bit later.
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Old 06-03-2008, 01:40 PM   #1464
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Show of hands: How many of you out there thought it even the slightest bit odd that I CONTINUOUSLY questioned the BG revealing? that I kept nagging and talking against the idea?

Not the slightest bit of a hint there? =) i thought I was being so ridiculously obvious.

Well I was very much against it as well. That'll be taken into consideration but you easily could've laid traces so you could fake reveal as soon as the real BG came out.
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Old 06-03-2008, 01:42 PM   #1465
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Cool. So, faced with olie's scan of Sea Lion as good, and cronin vouching that Sea Lion was the one he followed, you're still sticking to your story?


Absolutely. I was not told of ANYONE else being involved, simply that I blocked Kwhit in response to my order to Protect Oliegirl.
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Old 06-03-2008, 01:42 PM   #1466
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Old 06-03-2008, 01:42 PM   #1467
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Actually, I saw you decide that there was no reason for the BG to NOT reveal, then backtrack on that decision a short bit later.

I sort of remember that too. Let me find that post.
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Old 06-03-2008, 01:44 PM   #1468
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Absolutely. I was not told of ANYONE else being involved, simply that I blocked Kwhit in response to my order to Protect Oliegirl.

But...how does that make Sea Lion evil? Who was he trying to protect, anyway? KWhit was already going to get lynched.
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Old 06-03-2008, 01:45 PM   #1469
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I sort of remember that too. Let me find that post.

1125, 1142, and 1168
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Old 06-03-2008, 01:45 PM   #1470
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I have a real problem with this post. If you had scanned me, you would know this is untrue, so how do you base this?
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Old 06-03-2008, 01:46 PM   #1471
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Hm, here.

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I'm either not thinking clearly today or there just isn't a lot of evidence to go around.

I'm still not impressed with the idea of anyone else revealing. Maybe I'm overthinking this though:

The unknown role(s) are the BG and the duke, I guess I'm stuck thinking the BG is pretty vital right now, but is it really?

If they both reveal, then we have at most 4 people left unknown and at most 3 dogs in those 4.

Someone with better math skills thans me sort that out, can we control the voting enough to hammer that out and still win with losing the roled players each night?

Help me clarify this in my brain folks =)

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See I was thinking along this line as well, thank you for saying it.

What good is the bodyguard after tonight? Tonight he dies if he reveals, giving Olie one more scan, tomorrow Olie dies, they have no choice right?

So what good is staying secretive? who else can he protect that will make a real difference at this stage of the game? I think thats what I want to know. How does staying hidden really help us at all at this point?
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Old 06-03-2008, 01:47 PM   #1472
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Oh, man, RendeR is going to be on the voting block for two whole days now -- maybe three if the board goes down. Get yer popcorn out!
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Old 06-03-2008, 01:48 PM   #1473
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And here's 1168.

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Sorry darlin', nothing personal =) I'd love to keep you alive for a few more days too so you can scan, but the facts is the facts.

Make tonight's scan a good one =)


And based on what I've just read perhaps it is best if the BG stays hidden, it does at least add a point of confusion for the dogs to deal with that they wouldn't have if he comes out.

Thanks for the help clarifying things guys!
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Old 06-03-2008, 01:49 PM   #1474
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But...how does that make Sea Lion evil? Who was he trying to protect, anyway? KWhit was already going to get lynched.


Actually it doesn't, I don't believe he is a BG, I tihnk he's lying and is perhaps a dog that scans light. I really don't know.

He could be yet another lolcat and the 3 faction idea is coming out entirely?

I am the BG, I've put in orders each night except the first when clap had to find me via AIM to make sure I was still around at all.
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Old 06-03-2008, 01:49 PM   #1475
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I have a real problem with this post. If you had scanned me, you would know this is untrue, so how do you base this?

I assume she's just basing it off the fact that she scanned the other revealed BG as light.
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Old 06-03-2008, 01:49 PM   #1476
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Oh, man, RendeR is going to be on the voting block for two whole days now -- maybe three if the board goes down. Get yer popcorn out!

Post of the thread
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Old 06-03-2008, 01:50 PM   #1477
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Actually it doesn't, I don't believe he is a BG, I tihnk he's lying and is perhaps a dog that scans light. I really don't know.

He could be yet another lolcat and the 3 faction idea is coming out entirely?

I am the BG, I've put in orders each night except the first when clap had to find me via AIM to make sure I was still around at all.

It's possible there's a few lolcats around, I guess. But we already took out the light scanning dog. Two of those in one game would be tough as hell. But then again, it looks like we have a lot of powers on our side..
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Old 06-03-2008, 01:52 PM   #1478
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I have a real problem with this post. If you had scanned me, you would know this is untrue, so how do you base this?

Because I scanned SeaLion and he came back with a light aura, and he's revealed as the BG.

If you have a problem being called a liar, you are playing the wrong game...

We need to have nightfall, lynch Kwhit and I can scan RendeR...if he comes back Dark Aura we lynch him and have 1 more doggie to lynch for the win...
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Old 06-03-2008, 01:53 PM   #1479
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Actually it doesn't, I don't believe he is a BG, I tihnk he's lying and is perhaps a dog that scans light. I really don't know.

He could be yet another lolcat and the 3 faction idea is coming out entirely?

I am the BG, I've put in orders each night except the first when clap had to find me via AIM to make sure I was still around at all.

So, what about cronin saying he followed Sea Lion, and saw him fighting with two people? Practice?
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Old 06-03-2008, 01:53 PM   #1480
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My orders for the 3 days are as folllows. I protected OlieGirl the first night as she is my wife. Then I did coffee Warlord as I figured he might be a target as he was leading things and had scanned light. and tonight I did OlieGirl again as she came out as the seer.
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Old 06-03-2008, 01:54 PM   #1481
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Because I scanned SeaLion and he came back with a light aura, and he's revealed as the BG.

If you have a problem being called a liar, you are playing the wrong game...

We need to have nightfall, lynch Kwhit and I can scan RendeR...if he comes back Dark Aura we lynch him and have 1 more doggie to lynch for the win...

I'm not sure it's worth scanning RendeR, but perhaps it's the more conservative play.
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Old 06-03-2008, 01:54 PM   #1482
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It's possible there's a few lolcats around, I guess. But we already took out the light scanning dog. Two of those in one game would be tough as hell. But then again, it looks like we have a lot of powers on our side..


My point exactly, there are SO many people with some power in this game, there appear to be at least as many locats as dogs if not more and THEY have powers. Why would it be so surprising to have more than one scan-proteted dog? nothing else seems normal in this supposedly NORMAL game *leers at clap*

I'm sending a question to clap via PM momentarily because I tihnk in ihs haste he's causing some really undo confusion on something, back shortly.
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Old 06-03-2008, 01:55 PM   #1483
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My orders for the 3 days are as folllows. I protected OlieGirl the first night as she is my wife. Then I did coffee Warlord as I figured he might be a target as he was leading things and had scanned light. and tonight I did OlieGirl again as she came out as the seer.

Thanks, that helps. RendeR, can you give your list?
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Old 06-03-2008, 01:56 PM   #1484
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My point exactly, there are SO many people with some power in this game, there appear to be at least as many locats as dogs if not more and THEY have powers. Why would it be so surprising to have more than one scan-proteted dog? nothing else seems normal in this supposedly NORMAL game *leers at clap*

I'm sending a question to clap via PM momentarily because I tihnk in ihs haste he's causing some really undo confusion on something, back shortly.

sorry RendeR ur not my type
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Old 06-03-2008, 01:56 PM   #1485
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My point exactly, there are SO many people with some power in this game, there appear to be at least as many locats as dogs if not more and THEY have powers. Why would it be so surprising to have more than one scan-proteted dog? nothing else seems normal in this supposedly NORMAL game *leers at clap*

I'm sending a question to clap via PM momentarily because I tihnk in ihs haste he's causing some really undo confusion on something, back shortly.

It makes me feel lame for having a one time power that I didn't even use when I should've.
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Old 06-03-2008, 01:57 PM   #1486
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Old 06-03-2008, 02:04 PM   #1487
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sorry RendeR ur not my type


Leering is not a complimentary thing, I'm inclined to be pissed off about now and you're at the center of it due to your minimalist style of PM's.



Ok, so Clap answered me, I saw nothing apparently. If there was someone fighting kwhit at the same time I saw not a god damned thing, but I blocked him, oh deaar god yes, I blocked khwit.

Fucking hell, it makes no god damned sense.


lynch me. Seriously, I'm not going to sit here and play the game according to hidden rules and invisible forces at work behind the scenes. The game is hard enough as it is.

I am if not THE bodyguard, then at least A bodyguard.

lynch me, I'll prove it.
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Old 06-03-2008, 02:06 PM   #1488
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Old 06-03-2008, 02:10 PM   #1489
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Old 06-03-2008, 02:16 PM   #1490
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This game is going to be what I call a "Dark Matter" game basically this means that you players have the BARE minimum informatoin to start with and must learn as you go. So there will be very little info here beyond the bare essentials.

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Old 06-03-2008, 02:17 PM   #1491
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haha well played pass
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Old 06-03-2008, 02:19 PM   #1492
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Now that RendeR's calmed down -- or got himself worked up more, can't say for sure which -- I think we can look past him a little, and go with the idea that they are both bodyguards. I don't see why RendeR would have come out like this otherwise. It makes no sense to point fingers at Sea Lion, when he's been scanned as good, AND his story is corroborated.
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Old 06-03-2008, 02:19 PM   #1493
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Old 06-03-2008, 02:20 PM   #1494
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At least you were WARNED up front to expect the unexpected.
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Old 06-03-2008, 02:20 PM   #1495
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That said, we still need to look at Coffee Warlord -- he's been scanned as good, but there's no reason he can't be a chihuahua also.
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Old 06-03-2008, 02:20 PM   #1496
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I need to take a while to process this. Until then at least one thing is clear, I think.


vote KWhit
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Old 06-03-2008, 02:24 PM   #1497
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This would be what I was waiting for. Seolian is not the bodyguard. I am. I protected no one the first night as I was not around at deadline. I tried to protect Purduebrad night 2 because I had given him the benefit of the doubt during the vote.

I protected Olie last night and she was attacked by Kwhit *based on my PM* I was not told of anyone else that I blocked, only that I blocked Kwhit.

Wolves: Kwhit and Seolin

Pass: I switched to Khwit today during the vote that was was I was referring to.

I still think RendeR is a wolf...

We lynched PB day 2, the BG power is against night kills, not lynching...so how does what he said about PB make any sense?
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Old 06-03-2008, 02:26 PM   #1498
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Ok let me clarify WHY I'm pissed off, if I can anyway.

I'm told I blocked Kwhit.

Seolian says he blocked Kwhit.

Cronin says he followed seolian and saw himfighting two people.

IF this is all true then WHY didn't *I* see a third party?

IF this is true why didn't Seolian see a third Party?

my only explanation is that Seolian is lying, but he scans light so WTF am I suposed to think now?

seriously? What would YOU do?
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Old 06-03-2008, 02:30 PM   #1499
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I still think RendeR is a wolf...

We lynched PB day 2, the BG power is against night kills, not lynching...so how does what he said about PB make any sense?


rather simple, my orders went in at like 10am. this schedule falls right in the middle of my nusiest time of day Olie, its not like I have the chance to be here through the morning every day. I put the order in early to make sure I GOT an order in instead of missing it like day 1.

PB got lynched, I got a msg saying PB is dead anyway.
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Old 06-03-2008, 02:30 PM   #1500
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That said, we still need to look at Coffee Warlord -- he's been scanned as good, but there's no reason he can't be a chihuahua also.

Heh. Amusingly, if Kwhit turns out to be a wolf as scanned, you're real high on my suspicion list.
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