Werewolf XXII - Way of the Colt - Game over, congrats samurai! - Page 30

Desnudo · 02-01-2006, 08:50 PM

That's not very helpful. If you do a role reveal at least we can possibly do something about it and take a shot at Alan T. Even if that guarantees you dieing tonight, it's better than us losing a definite villager now and one tonight as well.

RPI-Fan · 02-01-2006, 08:50 PM

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Originally Posted by RPI-Fan

I don't know what to make of this, but early in the game KWhit came out (much like me) angrily at Blade for his jerk attitude (which IMO has since been cleaned up quite nicely). I don't know if it's good/bad/nothing, but I do know that it's something that stood out for me.

The more I think about it, the cleaner I think this makes KWhit.

I know I wouldn't come out swinging like me & KWhit did if I were a ninja, so I think KWhit is 100% good here (and probably has a positive role for us).

On the other hand, I see nothing at all that clears Alan T.

KWhit · 02-01-2006, 08:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Desnudo

That's not very helpful. If you do a role reveal at least we can possibly do something about it and take a shot at Alan T. Even if that guarantees you dieing tonight, it's better than us losing a definite villager now and one tonight as well.

Not for me it doesn't.

Desnudo · 02-01-2006, 08:52 PM

If you were a samurai it would, unless all you care about is staying alive, in which case, I think I'll leave vote as it is.

Lathum · 02-01-2006, 08:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RPI-Fan

I don't know what to make of this, but early in the game KWhit came out (much like me) angrily at Blade for his jerk attitude (which IMO has since been cleaned up quite nicely). I don't know if it's good/bad/nothing, but I do know that it's something that stood out for me.

I'm not really sure why this stands out to you since you did the same thing?

KWhit · 02-01-2006, 08:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RPI-Fan

The more I think about it, the cleaner I think this makes KWhit.

I know I wouldn't come out swinging like me & KWhit did if I were a ninja, so I think KWhit is 100% good here (and probably has a positive role for us).

Yeah, Blade's gambit worked in getting some heat on me. And he led the charge against me today. The way many of you guys have blindly followed him this game hasn't helped you.

RPI-Fan · 02-01-2006, 08:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lathum

I'm not really sure why this stands out to you since you did the same thing?

If I were a ninja I wouldn't have been so agressive against Blade. I'm assuming the same line-of-thought would go for KWhit.

I really think KWhit is good, here.

Eaglesfan27 · 02-01-2006, 08:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Desnudo

If you were a samurai it would, unless all you care about is staying alive, in which case, I think I'll leave vote as it is.

I agree. A role reveal could change my mind, but this does nothing to change my mind.

Mustang · 02-01-2006, 08:53 PM

Hmm.. I'm sitting here eating and just realized something, anyone defending KWhit? Normally you see people at least putting up some cross argument. I mean, hell.. even I got some argument against. If he is a Ninja, sure won't bring people out to argue for him..

Me thinks my RPI-Fan vote is misplaced for now

Unvote RPI
Vote KWhit

tanglewood · 02-01-2006, 08:54 PM

I though that some people mught accuse me of 'hiding' by voting for one of the non-frontrunners, but I think that Lathum is more likely a ninja than any of those up on the block. But, if I have to chose someone to vote for of those 'in the lead' then KWhit is my choice, partly because of those voting for him at present (notably Blade and Eaglesfan).

Unvote Lathum
Vote KWhit

Alan T · 02-01-2006, 08:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KWhit

Yeah, Blade's gambit worked in getting some heat on me. And he led the charge against me today. The way many of you guys have blindly followed him this game hasn't helped you.

I guess the reason i followed him yesterday was he in my mind is the only cleared villager alive. As you see now, that got me in trouble yesterday though.

Mustang · 02-01-2006, 08:55 PM

Looks like I spoke too soon.. the other person I voted for is making a cross argument for KWhit.

KWhit · 02-01-2006, 08:55 PM

FYI:

Coder is a samurai. For sure.
Desnudo... unknown, but leaning toward Samurai.

tanglewood · 02-01-2006, 08:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Desnudo

If you were a samurai it would, unless all you care about is staying alive, in which case, I think I'll leave vote as it is.

I agree with this.

If you have a role KWhit, it would be best to come clean now.

KWhit · 02-01-2006, 08:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KWhit

FYI:

Coder is a samurai. For sure.
Desnudo... unknown, but leaning toward Samurai.

Says the seer.

Desnudo · 02-01-2006, 08:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KWhit

Yeah, Blade's gambit worked in getting some heat on me. And he led the charge against me today. The way many of you guys have blindly followed him this game hasn't helped you.

Don't you mean us, as a group of samurai? It's pretty obvious that the role you are implying is seer, or something of that level, so I find your reluctance to help us out disapointing.

Desnudo · 02-01-2006, 08:57 PM

Unvote Kwhit

Vote Alan T

RPI-Fan · 02-01-2006, 08:57 PM

Want to put this on the table, for better or worse:

I wholly feel KWhit is good. If I'm wrong, I'll have my head on the block tomorrow (hell, if I don't I might be on the block). But, I'm willing to stand behind my thoughts where I feel moderately confident in them.

Mr. Wednesday · 02-01-2006, 08:57 PM

Yeesh, gotta act quicker than I'd like.

I don't really have much of a feel on either of these guys.

Vote Alan T

tanglewood · 02-01-2006, 08:57 PM

Unvote KWhit

Vote RPI-Fan

Edit: I thought Coder and Desnudo were pretty clean already, so I can see KWhit being seer. Wasn't that strong on KWhit, mainly cause of Blade voting for him as noted above.

Alan T · 02-01-2006, 08:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Desnudo

Don't you mean us, as a group of samurai? It's pretty obvious that the role you are implying is seer, or something of that level, so I find your reluctance to help us out disapointing.

Im guessing without a bodyguard, a seer is figuring hes dead either during the day or night, thus is reluctance.

KWhit · 02-01-2006, 08:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Desnudo

Don't you mean us, as a group of samurai? It's pretty obvious that the role you are implying is seer, or something of that level, so I find your reluctance to help us out disapointing.

No I mean indviduals who have been taking everything he says as Gospel when I haven't been able to follow half of his ideas. His besmirching of Mustang yesterday was laughable and I was the only one to call him on it. I don't think he's a ninja, but his arguments are flawed a lot of the time.

KWhit · 02-01-2006, 08:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alan T

Im guessing without a bodyguard, a seer is figuring hes dead either during the day or night, thus is reluctance.

You got it.

Desnudo · 02-01-2006, 08:59 PM

Yes, but he's dead now anyway, if you look at the overall probability, it gives the samurai a better chance with a random - Alan T, than a known.

Eaglesfan27 · 02-01-2006, 08:59 PM

Ok, I believe Kwhit is the seer. I hope I'm right. I wish I had time to tally everything.

Therefore,

I unvote Kwhit

I vote RPI-Fan

RPI-Fan · 02-01-2006, 08:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tanglewood

Unvote KWhit

Vote RPI-Fan

K, so let's get this clear.

I'm the ONLY one to stand up for KWhit, who you're essentially calling good by un-voting him.

So who do you vote for? The one guy who backs him.

Moreover, with no explanation.

Alan T · 02-01-2006, 09:00 PM

bleh, out of self-preservernce

UNVOTE RPI-FAN
VOTE Kwhit

Desnudo · 02-01-2006, 09:00 PM

Umm, it's Alan T or it doesn't help.

RPI-Fan · 02-01-2006, 09:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Eaglesfan27

Ok, I believe Kwhit is the seer. I hope I'm right. I wish I had time to tally everything.

Therefore,

I unvote Kwhit

I vote RPI-Fan

WTF?!?!!!?!? How does this make any sesne?!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Desnudo · 02-01-2006, 09:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Eaglesfan27

Ok, I believe Kwhit is the seer. I hope I'm right. I wish I had time to tally everything.

Therefore,

I unvote Kwhit

I vote RPI-Fan

That's a really strange move.

TazFTW · 02-01-2006, 09:01 PM

UNVOTE KWHIT

VOTE ALAN T

Mr. Wednesday · 02-01-2006, 09:01 PM

Wow, I should have read quicker. Clearly, I done right in not voting KWhit.

Eaglesfan27 · 02-01-2006, 09:01 PM

I was more concerned about getting the vote in then explaining it. However, my reason is that until you were called out for flying under the radar, you were very quiet. Then, you suddenly spoke up. That makes me suspicious of you.

TazFTW · 02-01-2006, 09:01 PM

ack was that too late?

hoopsguy · 02-01-2006, 09:01 PM

Taz, vote is in after the deadline.

Putting together the writeup now ...

RPI-Fan · 02-01-2006, 09:01 PM

Jeez, I'm starting to know what Blade has felt like in past games.

Your guys deadline votes made NO sense, whether or not me/KWhit/Alan T are good/bad.

KWhit · 02-01-2006, 09:02 PM

That was a train wreck.

Eaglesfan27 · 02-01-2006, 09:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RPI-Fan

WTF?!?!!!?!? How does this make any sesne?!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Why was it strange? I didn't think I tied it.

Mr. Wednesday · 02-01-2006, 09:03 PM

Yeah, well, I was dead tired when I left work, so I took a little nap. I hadn't gotten a vote in yet, and with one thing leading to another I wound up catching up with literally about two minutes to spare.

Lathum · 02-01-2006, 09:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tanglewood

I though that some people mught accuse me of 'hiding' by voting for one of the non-frontrunners, but I think that Lathum is more likely a ninja than any of those up on the block. But, if I have to chose someone to vote for of those 'in the lead' then KWhit is my choice, partly because of those voting for him at present (notably Blade and Eaglesfan).

Unvote Lathum
Vote KWhit

ARE YOU KIDDING ME!!!!

after I call you out on your strategy you suddenly feel the need to change your vote so it doesn't appear you are hiding.

Am I the only one who smells a load of crap here?

RPI-Fan · 02-01-2006, 09:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Eaglesfan27

I was more concerned about getting the vote in then explaining it. However, my reason is that until you were called out for flying under the radar, you were very quiet. Then, you suddenly spoke up. That makes me suspicious of you.

Yea', all I did was:

1) Defend someone who currently had a vote for me
2) Defend someone who turns out is most likely the seer.

I can't believe your's and tanglewood's votes. F'in silly.

saldana · 02-01-2006, 09:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Eaglesfan27

Why was it strange? I didn't think I tied it.

great, that way we learn nothing again

Desnudo · 02-01-2006, 09:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Eaglesfan27

I was more concerned about getting the vote in then explaining it. However, my reason is that until you were called out for flying under the radar, you were very quiet. Then, you suddenly spoke up. That makes me suspicious of you.

That is nonsensical in the context of what just happened. I'm not trying to be insulting, the only way it makes sense if you wanted to save Alan T.

KWhit · 02-01-2006, 09:03 PM

Before I die... I viewed Coder - good.

I viewed Desnudo and I saw an incomplete picture. He seemed sad and it seemed like he was planning something. That is all.

Eaglesfan27 · 02-01-2006, 09:04 PM

If I miscounted, I'm really sorry guys. My wife was blabbing in my ear, but I thought I counted right and there was no tie.

RPI-Fan · 02-01-2006, 09:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Eaglesfan27

Why was it strange? I didn't think I tied it.

I was totally lost on the exact #'s after the last vote official vote count (mine & your's about 9:30pm EST).

HOWEVER, I know that I had ABOUT 5, and KWhit had ABOUT 5, Alan T had ABOUT 5.

I just don't see how you justify making that specific switch.

TazFTW · 02-01-2006, 09:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hoopsguy

Taz, vote is in after the deadline.

Putting together the writeup now ...

*sigh* That's what I get for answering an FM question.

Eaglesfan27 · 02-01-2006, 09:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RPI-Fan

Yea', all I did was:

1) Defend someone who currently had a vote for me
2) Defend someone who turns out is most likely the seer.

I can't believe your's and tanglewood's votes. F'in silly.

You suddenly spoke up out of self-preservation. That makes me more suspicious of you.

saldana · 02-01-2006, 09:05 PM

i would love to hear all the explanations from the people that stayed on Kwhit after he said he was the seer, and especially from Alan, who changed TO Kwhit after he revealed his role...self preservation or not, that has gotta make some eyebrows arch

Mr. Wednesday · 02-01-2006, 09:06 PM

Well, sudden or not, it's hard to blame anyone for speaking up out of self-preservation. He's supposed to just sit there and get lynched? I mean, I know that getting yourself killed by Chuck Norris is a great honor and all, but it's still a little extreme.

02-01-2006, 08:53 PM	#1459
Mustang Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Wisconsin	Hmm.. I'm sitting here eating and just realized something, anyone defending KWhit? Normally you see people at least putting up some cross argument. I mean, hell.. even I got some argument against. If he is a Ninja, sure won't bring people out to argue for him.. Me thinks my RPI-Fan vote is misplaced for now Unvote RPI Vote KWhit __________________ You, you will regret what you have done this day. I will make you regret ever being born. Your going to wish you never left your mothers womb, where it was warm and safe... and wet. i am going to show you pain you never knew existed, you are going to see a whole new spectrum of pain, like a Rainboooow. But! This rainbow is not just like any other rainbow, its... Last edited by Mustang : 02-01-2006 at 08:55 PM.

02-01-2006, 08:55 PM	#1462
Mustang Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Wisconsin	Looks like I spoke too soon.. the other person I voted for is making a cross argument for KWhit. __________________ You, you will regret what you have done this day. I will make you regret ever being born. Your going to wish you never left your mothers womb, where it was warm and safe... and wet. i am going to show you pain you never knew existed, you are going to see a whole new spectrum of pain, like a Rainboooow. But! This rainbow is not just like any other rainbow, its...

02-01-2006, 08:57 PM	#1468
RPI-Fan Pro Starter Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Troy, NY	Want to put this on the table, for better or worse: I wholly feel KWhit is good. If I'm wrong, I'll have my head on the block tomorrow (hell, if I don't I might be on the block). But, I'm willing to stand behind my thoughts where I feel moderately confident in them. __________________ Quis custodiets ipsos custodes?

02-01-2006, 08:57 PM	#1469
Mr. Wednesday Pro Starter Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: South Bend, IN	Yeesh, gotta act quicker than I'd like. I don't really have much of a feel on either of these guys. Vote Alan T __________________ Hattrick - Brays Bayou FC (70854) / USA III.4 Hockey Arena - Houston Aeros / USA II.1 Thanks to my FOFC Hattrick supporters - Blackout, Brillig, kingfc22, RPI-fan, Rich1033, antbacker, One_to7, ur_land, KevinNU7, and TonyR (PM me if you support me and I've missed you)

02-01-2006, 08:57 PM	#1470
tanglewood College Benchwarmer Join Date: Oct 2004	Unvote KWhit Vote RPI-Fan Edit: I thought Coder and Desnudo were pretty clean already, so I can see KWhit being seer. Wasn't that strong on KWhit, mainly cause of Blade voting for him as noted above. Last edited by tanglewood : 02-01-2006 at 09:00 PM.

02-01-2006, 08:50 PM	#1451
Desnudo Coordinator Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Here and There	That's not very helpful. If you do a role reveal at least we can possibly do something about it and take a shot at Alan T. Even if that guarantees you dieing tonight, it's better than us losing a definite villager now and one tonight as well.

02-01-2006, 08:52 PM	#1454
Desnudo Coordinator Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Here and There	If you were a samurai it would, unless all you care about is staying alive, in which case, I think I'll leave vote as it is.

02-01-2006, 08:54 PM	#1460
tanglewood College Benchwarmer Join Date: Oct 2004	I though that some people mught accuse me of 'hiding' by voting for one of the non-frontrunners, but I think that Lathum is more likely a ninja than any of those up on the block. But, if I have to chose someone to vote for of those 'in the lead' then KWhit is my choice, partly because of those voting for him at present (notably Blade and Eaglesfan). Unvote Lathum Vote KWhit

02-01-2006, 08:55 PM	#1463
KWhit Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Conyers GA	FYI: Coder is a samurai. For sure. Desnudo... unknown, but leaning toward Samurai.

02-01-2006, 08:57 PM	#1467
Desnudo Coordinator Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Here and There	Unvote Kwhit Vote Alan T

02-01-2006, 08:59 PM	#1474
Desnudo Coordinator Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Here and There	Yes, but he's dead now anyway, if you look at the overall probability, it gives the samurai a better chance with a random - Alan T, than a known.

02-01-2006, 08:59 PM	#1475
Eaglesfan27 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: New Jersey	Ok, I believe Kwhit is the seer. I hope I'm right. I wish I had time to tally everything. Therefore, I unvote Kwhit I vote RPI-Fan __________________ Retired GM of the eNFL 2007 Super Bowl Champion Philadelphia Eagles (19-0 record.) GM of the WOOF 2006 Doggie Bowl Champion Atlantic City Gamblers. GM of the IHOF 2019 and 2022 IHOF Bowl Champion Asheville Axemen.

02-01-2006, 09:00 PM	#1477
Alan T Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Mass.	bleh, out of self-preservernce UNVOTE RPI-FAN VOTE Kwhit

02-01-2006, 09:00 PM	#1478
Desnudo Coordinator Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Here and There	Umm, it's Alan T or it doesn't help.

02-01-2006, 09:01 PM	#1481
TazFTW Pro Rookie Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Honolulu, HI	UNVOTE KWHIT VOTE ALAN T __________________ "Teams don't want to make the trip anymore," says Hawaii coach June Jones. "They come here, we kick their ass, they go home." Fire Ron Lee.

02-01-2006, 09:01 PM	#1482
Mr. Wednesday Pro Starter Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: South Bend, IN	Wow, I should have read quicker. Clearly, I done right in not voting KWhit. __________________ Hattrick - Brays Bayou FC (70854) / USA III.4 Hockey Arena - Houston Aeros / USA II.1 Thanks to my FOFC Hattrick supporters - Blackout, Brillig, kingfc22, RPI-fan, Rich1033, antbacker, One_to7, ur_land, KevinNU7, and TonyR (PM me if you support me and I've missed you)

02-01-2006, 09:01 PM	#1483
Eaglesfan27 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: New Jersey	I was more concerned about getting the vote in then explaining it. However, my reason is that until you were called out for flying under the radar, you were very quiet. Then, you suddenly spoke up. That makes me suspicious of you. __________________ Retired GM of the eNFL 2007 Super Bowl Champion Philadelphia Eagles (19-0 record.) GM of the WOOF 2006 Doggie Bowl Champion Atlantic City Gamblers. GM of the IHOF 2019 and 2022 IHOF Bowl Champion Asheville Axemen.

02-01-2006, 09:01 PM	#1484
TazFTW Pro Rookie Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Honolulu, HI	ack was that too late? __________________ "Teams don't want to make the trip anymore," says Hawaii coach June Jones. "They come here, we kick their ass, they go home." Fire Ron Lee.

02-01-2006, 09:01 PM	#1485
hoopsguy General Manager Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Chicago	Taz, vote is in after the deadline. Putting together the writeup now ...

02-01-2006, 09:01 PM	#1486
RPI-Fan Pro Starter Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Troy, NY	Jeez, I'm starting to know what Blade has felt like in past games. Your guys deadline votes made NO sense, whether or not me/KWhit/Alan T are good/bad. __________________ Quis custodiets ipsos custodes?

02-01-2006, 09:02 PM	#1487
KWhit Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Conyers GA	That was a train wreck.

02-01-2006, 09:03 PM	#1489
Mr. Wednesday Pro Starter Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: South Bend, IN	Yeah, well, I was dead tired when I left work, so I took a little nap. I hadn't gotten a vote in yet, and with one thing leading to another I wound up catching up with literally about two minutes to spare. __________________ Hattrick - Brays Bayou FC (70854) / USA III.4 Hockey Arena - Houston Aeros / USA II.1 Thanks to my FOFC Hattrick supporters - Blackout, Brillig, kingfc22, RPI-fan, Rich1033, antbacker, One_to7, ur_land, KevinNU7, and TonyR (PM me if you support me and I've missed you)

02-01-2006, 09:03 PM	#1494
KWhit Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Conyers GA	Before I die... I viewed Coder - good. I viewed Desnudo and I saw an incomplete picture. He seemed sad and it seemed like he was planning something. That is all.

02-01-2006, 09:04 PM	#1495
Eaglesfan27 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: New Jersey	If I miscounted, I'm really sorry guys. My wife was blabbing in my ear, but I thought I counted right and there was no tie. __________________ Retired GM of the eNFL 2007 Super Bowl Champion Philadelphia Eagles (19-0 record.) GM of the WOOF 2006 Doggie Bowl Champion Atlantic City Gamblers. GM of the IHOF 2019 and 2022 IHOF Bowl Champion Asheville Axemen.

02-01-2006, 09:05 PM	#1499
saldana Pro Starter Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Bethlehem, Pa	i would love to hear all the explanations from the people that stayed on Kwhit after he said he was the seer, and especially from Alan, who changed TO Kwhit after he revealed his role...self preservation or not, that has gotta make some eyebrows arch

02-01-2006, 09:06 PM	#1500
Mr. Wednesday Pro Starter Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: South Bend, IN	Well, sudden or not, it's hard to blame anyone for speaking up out of self-preservation. He's supposed to just sit there and get lynched? I mean, I know that getting yourself killed by Chuck Norris is a great honor and all, but it's still a little extreme. __________________ Hattrick - Brays Bayou FC (70854) / USA III.4 Hockey Arena - Houston Aeros / USA II.1 Thanks to my FOFC Hattrick supporters - Blackout, Brillig, kingfc22, RPI-fan, Rich1033, antbacker, One_to7, ur_land, KevinNU7, and TonyR (PM me if you support me and I've missed you)

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