WW 103? - 42 Attempts (Game Over - Conspirators Win) - Page 30

Chief Rum · 10-20-2009, 09:52 PM

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Originally Posted by The Jackal

Why wouldn't you put up the non-essential wolf as competition? Not sure I understand that. At that point in the game you have to think that Autumn and lathdana were going down in the next couple days anyways, so putting a vote there isn't completely unexpected. I think it's clear the wolves ended up pinning their hopes on whoever the last one is, because we clearly can't decide.

Lathdana was far from a clear candidate. In fact, he was largely forgotten, with the boxing, and my early analysis had him looking okay. Even after that lynch, we didn't really start looking at him seriously until Danny and I started really hashing it out and looking at things from the perspective of Autumn being a wolf (plus Lathum was at that meeting).

And there were plenty of other candidates remaining to throw out there. Just doesn't make sense to throw out a wolf.

The Jackal · 10-20-2009, 09:52 PM

So me and you feel good about PB and CR has been pushing us to look at PB, hm.

The Jackal · 10-20-2009, 09:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Chief Rum

Lathdana was far from a clear candidate. In fact, he was largely forgotten, with the boxing, and my early analysis had him looking okay. Even after that lynch, we didn't really start looking at him seriously until Danny and I started really hashing it out and looking at things from the perspective of Autumn being a wolf (plus Lathum was at that meeting).

And there were plenty of other candidates remaining to throw out there. Just doesn't make sense to throw out a wolf.

Yes, but lathdana was Stauffenberg, and he was going to be in the voting very, very soon.

PurdueBrad · 10-20-2009, 09:53 PM

So 2 votes on Jackal, 1 on Schmidty and here I sit. I tie it with a vote on Schmidty, who I don't believe is a wolf or I throw my vote away if I go CR...hmmm.

The Jackal · 10-20-2009, 09:53 PM

If you truly think it is CR, PB, I'm willing to switch. I'm so back and forth on them.

The Jackal · 10-20-2009, 09:53 PM

I trust ya, even if you are a dirty pens fan.

Schmidty · 10-20-2009, 09:53 PM

Be right back - Need to check the chicken.

The Jackal · 10-20-2009, 09:53 PM

If we lynch two people and one is a wolf, we win, remember that!

Chief Rum · 10-20-2009, 09:53 PM

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Originally Posted by PurdueBrad

CR, a lot of late votes/late vote movement from you, would you characterize this as your normal style?

It is actually. I have never been afraid of making the "right" move if I feel it is indeed the right move. Plus, my schedule tends to put me there, too, at the end, where often I can't contribute much during the day time while at work.

The Jackal · 10-20-2009, 09:54 PM

So, you want to vote CR or Schmidty, PB?

Chief Rum · 10-20-2009, 09:54 PM

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Originally Posted by The Jackal

Yes, but lathdana was Stauffenberg, and he was going to be in the voting very, very soon.

No, Lathum was Elser. The lone wolf.

The Jackal · 10-20-2009, 09:55 PM

If I'm the wolf here I'm clearly not making that suggestion. If I die it's over no matter what. I think 2 vs 2 is our best chance.

The Jackal · 10-20-2009, 09:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Chief Rum

No, Lathum was Elser. The lone wolf.

Bah, was he? My bad.

Chief Rum · 10-20-2009, 09:55 PM

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Originally Posted by The Jackal

So me and you feel good about PB and CR has been pushing us to look at PB, hm.

Actually, yuo were the one who asked to look at PB, and I supplied the best reason to NOT vote for him.

The Jackal · 10-20-2009, 09:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Chief Rum

No, Lathum was Elser. The lone wolf.

Throw that previous argument out, then.

It would definitely help to know that info from EF, but he is apparently not around.

Chief Rum · 10-20-2009, 09:56 PM

So PB you going to keep us waiting to the end?

The Jackal · 10-20-2009, 09:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Chief Rum

Actually, yuo were the one who asked to look at PB, and I supplied the best reason to NOT vote for him.

Originally I was against voting for PB, remember? You said why aren't you looking at PB.

Chief Rum · 10-20-2009, 09:56 PM

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Originally Posted by The Jackal

Throw that previous argument out, then.

It would definitely help to know that info from EF, but he is apparently not around.

No prob.

You would think EF would be here by now. Deadline's not too far away here...

The Jackal · 10-20-2009, 09:56 PM

PB, if you want to coordinate this, you need to let me know who you feel better about. Where's the downside to this? I die and either Schmidty or CR dies.

PurdueBrad · 10-20-2009, 09:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Chief Rum

So PB you going to keep us waiting to the end?

Nah, no more waiting...

vote Jackal

The Jackal · 10-20-2009, 09:57 PM

If you think I'm the wolf, village wins either way. If you have a feeling about Schmidty or CR, we'll both vote them, and the village has a chance if I'm not a wolf.

PurdueBrad · 10-20-2009, 09:57 PM

Jackal, I feel much better about Schmidty.

The Jackal · 10-20-2009, 09:57 PM

Well that's just really dumb, PB. I hope, CR, if you are a villager, you take this offer.

The Jackal · 10-20-2009, 09:57 PM

What's the problem with me 2-2 vs someone?

The Jackal · 10-20-2009, 09:58 PM

I'm sorry I didn't think about this situation until just now.

PurdueBrad · 10-20-2009, 09:58 PM

Here's the problem with the 2 vs. 2 voting scheme. Wolf moves at the last second, leaves us lynching a villager and they get the night kill to win.

Chief Rum · 10-20-2009, 09:58 PM

Not an easy vote. Too much on the line. If The Jackal is good, I can't say it was obvious, nor that it is obvious who else is the wolf. All four good players in a tough spot.

PurdueBrad · 10-20-2009, 09:58 PM

Jackal, vote CR and I may make that move.

The Jackal · 10-20-2009, 09:58 PM

Yeah, we're in a tough spot, I still say 2 vs 2 would've been the best.

The Jackal · 10-20-2009, 09:59 PM

Alright.

unvote Schmidty

vote CR

PurdueBrad · 10-20-2009, 09:59 PM

Moving Jackal?

Chief Rum · 10-20-2009, 09:59 PM

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Originally Posted by PurdueBrad

Here's the problem with the 2 vs. 2 voting scheme. Wolf moves at the last second, leaves us lynching a villager and they get the night kill to win.

This possibility has been on my mind almost all day. Has me really worried.

The Jackal · 10-20-2009, 09:59 PM

It's worth a shot. If you're good, CR, sorry, but knowing I'm good, have to do something.

The Jackal · 10-20-2009, 09:59 PM

Moved, feel free PB.

PurdueBrad · 10-20-2009, 09:59 PM

Thinking about it, if I do it, sorry CR.

Chief Rum · 10-20-2009, 10:00 PM

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Originally Posted by PurdueBrad

Jackal, vote CR and I may make that move.

A lynch of me kills the village.

The Jackal · 10-20-2009, 10:00 PM

If you do, and CR and I are both villagers, we lose anyways. If one of us is a wolf, village wins.

PurdueBrad · 10-20-2009, 10:00 PM

Guessing time here and I'll stay, wary of that switch.

PurdueBrad · 10-20-2009, 10:00 PM

Hope I did the right thing not moving...If I'm wrong, CR go ahead and gloat, well played.

Schmidty · 10-20-2009, 10:01 PM

Well, I hope we were right. If not, I'm really, really sorry Jackal.

This was a tough game.

PurdueBrad · 10-20-2009, 10:01 PM

I'll admit, I had it typed to pull the switch to tie it and held off last minute. I'm a pansy.

Chief Rum · 10-20-2009, 10:01 PM

No gloating from me. I am not a wolf.

I am annoyed, though, unless you're the wolf. Because I was going to witch to Schmidty and be sure both The Jackal and Schmidty were lynched.

PurdueBrad · 10-20-2009, 10:02 PM

Edited above post, came off too crass. My bad.

The Jackal · 10-20-2009, 10:02 PM

Well, I'm not the wolf.

Schmidty · 10-20-2009, 10:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Chief Rum

No gloating from me. I am not a wolf.

I am annoyed, though, unless you're the wolf. Because I was going to witch to Schmidty and be sure both The Jackal and Schmidty were lynched.

I'm glad you didn't, but I still don't get why you thought I could be a wolf.

Chief Rum · 10-20-2009, 10:03 PM

So you talking Jackal into moving means we have a 25% chance instead of 50%.

But like I said, if you're a wolf, good move. Of course, you would have won anyway (you weren't one of the two to be lynched...).

The Jackal · 10-20-2009, 10:03 PM

So, is it Schmidty?

The Jackal · 10-20-2009, 10:03 PM

I'm annoyed there weren't any last minute heroics.

The Jackal · 10-20-2009, 10:04 PM

The deadline has passed and EF isn't here. Who's the wolf!

Schmidty · 10-20-2009, 10:04 PM

Where's EF damnit?

10-20-2009, 09:53 PM	#1457
Schmidty Coordinator Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Early, TX	Be right back - Need to check the chicken. __________________ Just beat the devil out of it!!! - Bob Ross

10-20-2009, 09:56 PM	#1466
Chief Rum Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Where Hip Hop lives	So PB you going to keep us waiting to the end? __________________ . . I would rather be wrong...Than live in the shadows of your song...My mind is open wide...And now I'm ready to start...You're not sure...You open the door...And step out into the dark...Now I'm ready.

10-20-2009, 09:58 PM	#1477
Chief Rum Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Where Hip Hop lives	Not an easy vote. Too much on the line. If The Jackal is good, I can't say it was obvious, nor that it is obvious who else is the wolf. All four good players in a tough spot. __________________ . . I would rather be wrong...Than live in the shadows of your song...My mind is open wide...And now I'm ready to start...You're not sure...You open the door...And step out into the dark...Now I'm ready.

10-20-2009, 10:01 PM	#1490
Schmidty Coordinator Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Early, TX	Well, I hope we were right. If not, I'm really, really sorry Jackal. This was a tough game. __________________ Just beat the devil out of it!!! - Bob Ross

10-20-2009, 10:01 PM	#1491
PurdueBrad Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: DeKalb, IL	I'll admit, I had it typed to pull the switch to tie it and held off last minute. I'm a pansy. Last edited by PurdueBrad : 10-20-2009 at 10:02 PM. Reason: for language (inappropriate)

10-20-2009, 09:52 PM	#1452
The Jackal Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: New Hampshire	So me and you feel good about PB and CR has been pushing us to look at PB, hm.

10-20-2009, 09:53 PM	#1454
PurdueBrad Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: DeKalb, IL	So 2 votes on Jackal, 1 on Schmidty and here I sit. I tie it with a vote on Schmidty, who I don't believe is a wolf or I throw my vote away if I go CR...hmmm.

10-20-2009, 09:53 PM	#1455
The Jackal Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: New Hampshire	If you truly think it is CR, PB, I'm willing to switch. I'm so back and forth on them.

10-20-2009, 09:53 PM	#1456
The Jackal Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: New Hampshire	I trust ya, even if you are a dirty pens fan.

10-20-2009, 09:53 PM	#1458
The Jackal Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: New Hampshire	If we lynch two people and one is a wolf, we win, remember that!

10-20-2009, 09:54 PM	#1460
The Jackal Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: New Hampshire	So, you want to vote CR or Schmidty, PB?

10-20-2009, 09:55 PM	#1462
The Jackal Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: New Hampshire	If I'm the wolf here I'm clearly not making that suggestion. If I die it's over no matter what. I think 2 vs 2 is our best chance.

10-20-2009, 09:56 PM	#1469
The Jackal Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: New Hampshire	PB, if you want to coordinate this, you need to let me know who you feel better about. Where's the downside to this? I die and either Schmidty or CR dies.

10-20-2009, 09:57 PM	#1471
The Jackal Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: New Hampshire	If you think I'm the wolf, village wins either way. If you have a feeling about Schmidty or CR, we'll both vote them, and the village has a chance if I'm not a wolf.

10-20-2009, 09:57 PM	#1472
PurdueBrad Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: DeKalb, IL	Jackal, I feel much better about Schmidty.

10-20-2009, 09:57 PM	#1473
The Jackal Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: New Hampshire	Well that's just really dumb, PB. I hope, CR, if you are a villager, you take this offer.

10-20-2009, 09:57 PM	#1474
The Jackal Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: New Hampshire	What's the problem with me 2-2 vs someone?

10-20-2009, 09:58 PM	#1475
The Jackal Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: New Hampshire	I'm sorry I didn't think about this situation until just now.

10-20-2009, 09:58 PM	#1476
PurdueBrad Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: DeKalb, IL	Here's the problem with the 2 vs. 2 voting scheme. Wolf moves at the last second, leaves us lynching a villager and they get the night kill to win.

10-20-2009, 09:58 PM	#1478
PurdueBrad Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: DeKalb, IL	Jackal, vote CR and I may make that move.

10-20-2009, 09:58 PM	#1479
The Jackal Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: New Hampshire	Yeah, we're in a tough spot, I still say 2 vs 2 would've been the best.

10-20-2009, 09:59 PM	#1480
The Jackal Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: New Hampshire	Alright. unvote Schmidty vote CR

10-20-2009, 09:59 PM	#1481
PurdueBrad Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: DeKalb, IL	Moving Jackal?

10-20-2009, 09:59 PM	#1483
The Jackal Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: New Hampshire	It's worth a shot. If you're good, CR, sorry, but knowing I'm good, have to do something.

10-20-2009, 09:59 PM	#1484
The Jackal Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: New Hampshire	Moved, feel free PB.

10-20-2009, 09:59 PM	#1485
PurdueBrad Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: DeKalb, IL	Thinking about it, if I do it, sorry CR.

10-20-2009, 10:00 PM	#1487
The Jackal Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: New Hampshire	If you do, and CR and I are both villagers, we lose anyways. If one of us is a wolf, village wins.

10-20-2009, 10:00 PM	#1488
PurdueBrad Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: DeKalb, IL	Guessing time here and I'll stay, wary of that switch.

10-20-2009, 10:00 PM	#1489
PurdueBrad Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: DeKalb, IL	Hope I did the right thing not moving...If I'm wrong, CR go ahead and gloat, well played.

10-20-2009, 10:01 PM	#1492
Chief Rum Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Where Hip Hop lives	No gloating from me. I am not a wolf. I am annoyed, though, unless you're the wolf. Because I was going to witch to Schmidty and be sure both The Jackal and Schmidty were lynched. __________________ . . I would rather be wrong...Than live in the shadows of your song...My mind is open wide...And now I'm ready to start...You're not sure...You open the door...And step out into the dark...Now I'm ready.

10-20-2009, 10:02 PM	#1493
PurdueBrad Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: DeKalb, IL	Edited above post, came off too crass. My bad.

10-20-2009, 10:02 PM	#1494
The Jackal Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: New Hampshire	Well, I'm not the wolf.

10-20-2009, 10:03 PM	#1496
Chief Rum Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Where Hip Hop lives	So you talking Jackal into moving means we have a 25% chance instead of 50%. But like I said, if you're a wolf, good move. Of course, you would have won anyway (you weren't one of the two to be lynched...). __________________ . . I would rather be wrong...Than live in the shadows of your song...My mind is open wide...And now I'm ready to start...You're not sure...You open the door...And step out into the dark...Now I'm ready.

10-20-2009, 10:03 PM	#1497
The Jackal Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: New Hampshire	So, is it Schmidty?

10-20-2009, 10:03 PM	#1498
The Jackal Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: New Hampshire	I'm annoyed there weren't any last minute heroics.