Survivor:Challenge/Common Thread (GAME OVER! FEED BACK WELCOME) - Page 30

Lathum · 02-09-2007, 02:20 PM

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Originally Posted by st.cronin

I would rather not say any more. We are worried that there is another wolf in our tribe.

dude, what part of zero from my question to the moderator didn't you understand?

Passacaglia · 02-09-2007, 02:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Alan T

Kwhit,

I was told I dropped too big of a hint about Oz in my conversation with you, but now you see why I say what I say. Oz is a tribe with 0 wolves and the seer. Everyone in that tribe knows who the seer is. We need to protect them against conversion and wolf attacks now.

I don't mean to be mean here, but I can only assume if you all don't want to pass the idols to them, it means a wolf has one of them.

Not to mention that 1 of 3 if your tribe is a wolf. That's a very wolf-dominated group.

Alan T · 02-09-2007, 02:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Passacaglia

Whoops, I guess we just forgot about you guys!

I don't remember who asked about Howard, but yeah, you can figure it out.

Gramm asked about Howard.

Also for the record, Mr.W revealed after all of us that he asked about Lupus also (Guess he trusted me the least)

Alan T · 02-09-2007, 02:23 PM

So after the next tribal council the wolf percentages will be:

Lupus: 33%
Howard: 33%
Helsing: 17%
Oz: 0%

Lathum · 02-09-2007, 02:23 PM

there is no way any of us are lying, it is not possible

st.cronin · 02-09-2007, 02:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Lathum

dude, what part of zero from my question to the moderator didn't you understand?

Sorry, I typed that before I saw your answer.

SnDvls · 02-09-2007, 02:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Jonathan Ezarik

I guess that gives us the answer for Howard.

sorry, but I guess it will now make for an interesting tribal council now

Lathum · 02-09-2007, 02:26 PM

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Originally Posted by st.cronin

Sorry, I typed that before I saw your answer.

ok, makes more sense now. So can you tell us how I am cleared? It will increase our chances of hitting a wolf when we go to tribal council.

Alan T · 02-09-2007, 02:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Lathum

there is no way any of us are lying, it is not possible

Well technically there could be.. but it would mean:

Pass is a wolf for lying how many Helsing wolves there are
Lathum is a wolf for lying about how many Oz wolves there are
Sndvls is a wolf for lying about how many wolves total there are...

I find that pretty unlikely

Especially now that Oz seems to be clearing Lathum for who knows what reason.

Passacaglia · 02-09-2007, 02:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Alan T

So after the next tribal council the wolf percentages will be:

Lupus: 33%
Howard: 33%
Helsing: 17%
Oz: 0%

That's assuming Howard doesn't lynch their wolf.

Alan T · 02-09-2007, 02:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Passacaglia

That's assuming Howard doesn't lynch their wolf.

Thats true. Guess I am always the pessamist.

SnDvls · 02-09-2007, 02:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Lathum

ok, makes more sense now. So can you tell us how I am cleared? It will increase our chances of hitting a wolf when we go to tribal council.

my guess is you were scanned...FYI
good news is you are cleared, bad news...well go to our thread for that

Alan T · 02-09-2007, 02:29 PM

So also..

(Lupus) - 1 wolf remaining

Kwhit - Chief Rum (vote 1), Blade (vote 2)
Swaggs - Chief Rum (vote 1), Blade (vote 2)
Anxiety - Chief Rum (vote 1), Blade (vote 2)

(Howard) - 1 wolf remaining

Path12 - Lonestargirl
Jonathan - Lonestargirl
Marathoner - Lonestargirl
Ntndeacon - Marathoner

We don't really care about Oz vote totals now.

st.cronin · 02-09-2007, 02:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Lathum

ok, makes more sense now. So can you tell us how I am cleared? It will increase our chances of hitting a wolf when we go to tribal council.

Hold on, there's some confusion in our tribe. Give us a chance to sort this out.

path12 · 02-09-2007, 02:36 PM

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Originally Posted by SnDvls

I asked the total number of wolves in the game

was told 3 wolves now

Does this match up with the person who asked how many wolves were in Howard?

Passacaglia · 02-09-2007, 02:38 PM

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Originally Posted by path12

Does this match up with the person who asked how many wolves were in Howard?

Yes. Gram asked about Howard, and he told us there was 1 wolf in it.

Passacaglia · 02-09-2007, 02:38 PM

If it didn't match, we wouldn't have just let it slide! :P

path12 · 02-09-2007, 02:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Alan T

So after the next tribal council the wolf percentages will be:

Lupus: 33%
Howard: 33%
Helsing: 17%
Oz: 0%

Unless we guess right in council.

st.cronin · 02-09-2007, 02:42 PM

By the way, it will apparently NOT be revealed if a player is a wolf when he gets voted out.

path12 · 02-09-2007, 02:43 PM

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Originally Posted by st.cronin

By the way, it will apparently NOT be revealed if a player is a wolf when he gets voted out.

Well, that kinda sucks.

st.cronin · 02-09-2007, 02:45 PM

path12 · 02-09-2007, 02:46 PM

Oz, did Raiders have a big say in the challenge yesterday? I don't need any details, just yes or no would be helpful. Thanks.

SnDvls · 02-09-2007, 02:46 PM

I think I read that in the rules somewhere or someone mentioned it before as I skimmed yesterday

edit for color

st.cronin · 02-09-2007, 02:48 PM

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Originally Posted by path12

Oz, did Raiders have a big say in the challenge yesterday? I don't need any details, just yes or no would be helpful. Thanks.

I would say no, not really.

Lathum · 02-09-2007, 02:50 PM

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Originally Posted by st.cronin

By the way, it will apparently NOT be revealed if a player is a wolf when he gets voted out.

that is the piece of information I was really interested in knowing. Why would raiders say he was a wolf?

GoldenEagle · 02-09-2007, 02:50 PM

Question for the Helsing tribe...

How was it determined who would ask questions about which tribe? Was it random or did members request a certain tribe?

path12 · 02-09-2007, 02:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Alan T

However we are in a small disagreement to what the wolves powers or abilities might be. As a team, some of us feel stronger than others that the wolves can not communicate or possibly don't even know who each other are. [/color]

In my opinion, it would be immensely helpful in our search for the wolf in our tribe to get some kind of idea as to whether or not the wolves can communicate with each other and if they know each other. If they do (and that has been my hypothesis) then there is a greater chance of finding clues in the thread postings. If not, the wolf has a better chance of playing helpful villager at this point and will be much tougher to sniff out.

GoldenEagle · 02-09-2007, 02:51 PM

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Originally Posted by path12

Oz, did Raiders have a big say in the challenge yesterday? I don't need any details, just yes or no would be helpful. Thanks.

He was adamant about winning the challenge, but I would imagine every group was in that regard.

st.cronin · 02-09-2007, 02:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Lathum

that is the piece of information I was really interested in knowing. Why would raiders say he was a wolf?

I assume he did not know this.

Lathum · 02-09-2007, 02:53 PM

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Originally Posted by GoldenEagle

Question for the Helsing tribe...

How was it determined who would ask questions about which tribe? Was it random or did members request a certain tribe?

GE, not ignoring you, I just think our tribe should discuss before we reveal that strategy

Lathum · 02-09-2007, 02:53 PM

helsing, can we discuss now?

Passacaglia · 02-09-2007, 02:54 PM

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Originally Posted by path12

In my opinion, it would be immensely helpful in our search for the wolf in our tribe to get some kind of idea as to whether or not the wolves can communicate with each other and if they know each other. If they do (and that has been my hypothesis) then there is a greater chance of finding clues in the thread postings. If not, the wolf has a better chance of playing helpful villager at this point and will be much tougher to sniff out.

I really agree with this. I think it takes some time for us to figure all that out inside our tribes, though.

KWhit · 02-09-2007, 02:55 PM

Okay. Oz has the seer. And Oz has no wolves. And everyone in Oz knows who the seer is.

Is all of that correct?

If so... Lupus can gives over our idols to a member of Oz. Then that person will be sure to get the idol to the seer. True?

path12 · 02-09-2007, 02:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Passacaglia

I really agree with this. I think it takes some time for us to figure all that out inside our tribes, though.

Oh, I thought from Alan's post that you might have had some information one way or the other but there was disagreement as to how to read the info.

GoldenEagle · 02-09-2007, 02:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Lathum

GE, not ignoring you, I just think our tribe should discuss before we reveal that strategy

That is fine.

Lathum · 02-09-2007, 02:58 PM

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Originally Posted by KWhit

Okay. Oz has the seer. And Oz has no wolves. And everyone in Oz knows who the seer is.

Is all of that correct?

If so... Lupus can gives over our idols to a member of Oz. Then that person will be sure to get the idol to the seer. True?

I think that is best

SnDvls · 02-09-2007, 02:59 PM

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Originally Posted by KWhit

Okay. Oz has the seer. And Oz has no wolves. And everyone in Oz knows who the seer is.

Is all of that correct?

If so... Lupus can gives over our idols to a member of Oz. Then that person will be sure to get the idol to the seer. True?

I would say yes too

KWhit · 02-09-2007, 03:01 PM

I'll have to discuss this in our team thread, obviously, and my teammates aren't around.

KWhit · 02-09-2007, 03:09 PM

By the way, this is starting to get frustrating. I see all of this chatter happening in the team threads, but I'm all by my lonesome in Lupus right now. And everyone is being so tightlipped in here. It has turned into a very slow WW game for me.

So start sharing!!! I'm getting bored!

GoldenEagle · 02-09-2007, 03:12 PM

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Originally Posted by KWhit

I'll have to discuss this in our team thread, obviously, and my teammates aren't around.

Not everyone can goof off on a Friday afternoon at work

path12 · 02-09-2007, 03:16 PM

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Originally Posted by KWhit

By the way, this is starting to get frustrating. I see all of this chatter happening in the team threads, but I'm all by my lonesome in Lupus right now. And everyone is being so tightlipped in here. It has turned into a very slow WW game for me.

So start sharing!!! I'm getting bored!

We got wolves!!! Right here in Survivor City!!!

How's that?

Passacaglia · 02-09-2007, 03:38 PM

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Originally Posted by path12

Oh, I thought from Alan's post that you might have had some information one way or the other but there was disagreement as to how to read the info.

No. We have no info about whether the wolves can communicate. But a lot of our opinions depended on whether or not we think they can. basically, if the wolves can't communicate, and are trying to find each other, then they know not to look in Oz. And if they don't know who other wolves are, and they're wondering who to kill, they know they can target Oz now. That's why we were so tight-lipped, especially with them -- we didn't want them to be targeted. We were hoping that Oz might have known that they no longer had any wolves -- if they did, they wouldn't want to tell the wolves that. That's why we asked them if they were sure they wanted the info revealed.

Poli · 02-09-2007, 03:47 PM

Interesting results while I'm at work, I must say.

Glad to hear we don't have another wolf.*Note* At work and changing colors doesn't work for me.

Poli · 02-09-2007, 03:49 PM

Which was my *chief* complaint.

Poli · 02-09-2007, 03:49 PM

Err, that was directed at Pass's last comment.

Passacaglia · 02-09-2007, 03:53 PM

Poli · 02-09-2007, 03:54 PM

Chief complaint was I didn't want the wolves to know we were "wolfless"...though if you talked about it amongst yourselves, then a wolf likely knew, right?

Poli · 02-09-2007, 03:56 PM

Almost PFA time here...meaning I get to do the physical readiness tests for some of the females here. Groan. Leaving in about 15 minutes.I should be back in about 2 hours time, I'd guess.

Alan T · 02-09-2007, 03:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Alan T

Ok, I can understand that. Well our bids were available to our entire team for the majority of the day, so if you feel there was foul play, you can look at who convinced your team to go with those bids.. chances are we already had our bids in place.

I hope everyone will be happy with how we handled last night's reward soon, we were just waiting to understand what is going on with Raiders Army in case it influenced the way we did this any.

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Originally Posted by ardent enthusiast

Chief complaint was I didn't want the wolves to know we were "wolfless"...though if you talked about it amongst yourselves, then a wolf likely knew, right?

I brought that up, but a valid point was made when we talked amongst ourselves that we dont know for sure the wolves know who each other are or they can communicate. So we might be providing them info too.

I guess we mainly are trying to figure out why we havent seen any signs of the wolves at night so far this game.

Alan T · 02-09-2007, 03:57 PM

Ignore my double quote there, I was referring to arden't statement. the extra quote from me was just research I was trying to do on other things

02-09-2007, 02:38 PM	#1467
Passacaglia Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Big Ten Country	If it didn't match, we wouldn't have just let it slide! :P Last edited by Passacaglia : 02-09-2007 at 02:39 PM. Reason: color

02-09-2007, 02:42 PM	#1469
st.cronin General Manager Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: New Mexico	By the way, it will apparently NOT be revealed if a player is a wolf when he gets voted out. __________________ co-commish: bb-bbcf.net knives out

02-09-2007, 02:45 PM	#1471
st.cronin General Manager Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: New Mexico	yep __________________ co-commish: bb-bbcf.net knives out

02-09-2007, 02:46 PM	#1472
path12 Coordinator Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Seattle, WA	Oz, did Raiders have a big say in the challenge yesterday? I don't need any details, just yes or no would be helpful. Thanks. __________________ We have always been at war with Eastasia.

02-09-2007, 02:46 PM	#1473
SnDvls Pro Starter Join Date: Jul 2001	I think I read that in the rules somewhere or someone mentioned it before as I skimmed yesterday edit for color Last edited by SnDvls : 02-09-2007 at 02:46 PM.

02-09-2007, 02:23 PM	#1454
Alan T Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Mass.	So after the next tribal council the wolf percentages will be: Lupus: 33% Howard: 33% Helsing: 17% Oz: 0%

02-09-2007, 02:23 PM	#1455
Lathum Favored Bitch #1 Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: homeless in NJ	there is no way any of us are lying, it is not possible

02-09-2007, 02:29 PM	#1463
Alan T Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Mass.	So also.. (Lupus) - 1 wolf remaining Kwhit - Chief Rum (vote 1), Blade (vote 2) Swaggs - Chief Rum (vote 1), Blade (vote 2) Anxiety - Chief Rum (vote 1), Blade (vote 2) (Howard) - 1 wolf remaining Path12 - Lonestargirl Jonathan - Lonestargirl Marathoner - Lonestargirl Ntndeacon - Marathoner We don't really care about Oz vote totals now.

02-09-2007, 02:50 PM	#1476
GoldenEagle Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Little Rock, AR	Question for the Helsing tribe... How was it determined who would ask questions about which tribe? Was it random or did members request a certain tribe? __________________ Xbox 360 Gamer Tag: GoldenEagle014

02-09-2007, 02:53 PM	#1481
Lathum Favored Bitch #1 Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: homeless in NJ	helsing, can we discuss now?

02-09-2007, 02:55 PM	#1483
KWhit Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Conyers GA	Okay. Oz has the seer. And Oz has no wolves. And everyone in Oz knows who the seer is. Is all of that correct? If so... Lupus can gives over our idols to a member of Oz. Then that person will be sure to get the idol to the seer. True?

02-09-2007, 03:01 PM	#1488
KWhit Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Conyers GA	I'll have to discuss this in our team thread, obviously, and my teammates aren't around.

02-09-2007, 03:09 PM	#1489
KWhit Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Conyers GA	By the way, this is starting to get frustrating. I see all of this chatter happening in the team threads, but I'm all by my lonesome in Lupus right now. And everyone is being so tightlipped in here. It has turned into a very slow WW game for me. So start sharing!!! I'm getting bored!

02-09-2007, 03:47 PM	#1493
Poli FOFC Survivor Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Wentzville, MO	Interesting results while I'm at work, I must say. Glad to hear we don't have another wolf.Note At work and changing colors doesn't work for me. __________________ Cheer for a walk on quarterback! Ardent leads the Vols in the dynasty forum.

02-09-2007, 03:49 PM	#1494
Poli FOFC Survivor Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Wentzville, MO	Which was my chief complaint. __________________ Cheer for a walk on quarterback! Ardent leads the Vols in the dynasty forum.

02-09-2007, 03:49 PM	#1495
Poli FOFC Survivor Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Wentzville, MO	Err, that was directed at Pass's last comment. __________________ Cheer for a walk on quarterback! Ardent leads the Vols in the dynasty forum.

02-09-2007, 03:53 PM	#1496
Passacaglia Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Big Ten Country	huh?

02-09-2007, 03:54 PM	#1497
Poli FOFC Survivor Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Wentzville, MO	Chief complaint was I didn't want the wolves to know we were "wolfless"...though if you talked about it amongst yourselves, then a wolf likely knew, right? __________________ Cheer for a walk on quarterback! Ardent leads the Vols in the dynasty forum.

02-09-2007, 03:56 PM	#1498
Poli FOFC Survivor Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Wentzville, MO	Almost PFA time here...meaning I get to do the physical readiness tests for some of the females here. Groan. Leaving in about 15 minutes.I should be back in about 2 hours time, I'd guess. __________________ Cheer for a walk on quarterback! Ardent leads the Vols in the dynasty forum.

02-09-2007, 03:57 PM	#1500
Alan T Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Mass.	Ignore my double quote there, I was referring to arden't statement. the extra quote from me was just research I was trying to do on other things

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