09-28-2009, 02:50 PM | #1451 |
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Quadruple dola-
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09-28-2009, 02:52 PM | #1452 |
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I can't make a decision now. I need to do more analysis tonight and vote then.
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09-28-2009, 02:54 PM | #1453 |
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I'm out for awhile, I'll answer any questions when I get back.
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09-28-2009, 02:58 PM | #1454 | |
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Yeah but if I vote now then all you're left with is decision to follow me or make a tie.. or vote for me which lets my vote be the decision maker so that's the same as following me. Sooo.. should I wait until you're on later so that we can discuss this together? I'm rather nervous about making this decision myself. When will you be around? |
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09-28-2009, 03:02 PM | #1455 |
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And I just remembered that I have an appointment at 4:30 and thus have to get my butt out of here. I'll be able to hop on tonight between 7:15 and 8.. and then again after 9 or so. Hopefully I'll catch KWhit at one of those two times.
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09-28-2009, 03:29 PM | #1456 |
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09-28-2009, 04:03 PM | #1457 |
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09-28-2009, 04:14 PM | #1458 |
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09-28-2009, 04:54 PM | #1459 |
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09-28-2009, 05:24 PM | #1460 |
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Let me approach this a different way Schmidty. Similar question to what KWhit asked me, why are you so sure it is me?
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09-28-2009, 07:09 PM | #1461 |
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The more I look at how the Day 3 vote went down, the more I think Schmidty is the good guy. He piled on to J23 just after a run on him. I'm not sure he does that if he's a wolf. Just looking at my chart it didn't stand out to me so much.. but it does when I look at the thread.
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09-28-2009, 07:19 PM | #1462 | |
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I'm not actually. I just feel bad about voting for Telle because of the missed votes. It kind of hurts any complete analysis of her, especially since she's been pretty low-profile this game. I'm willing to consider either of you, but since you're so convinced it's me, I have to go with you to save myself. I guess it kind of is a crapshoot. By the way, I work from 9 am - 2 pm PST tomorrow, so I'll have to decide if my vote will stand tonight (or early in the morning) because I won't be here at the deadline to change anything.
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09-28-2009, 08:00 PM | #1463 |
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Back.
Telle, do you have a complete vote breakdown for previous days? |
09-28-2009, 08:04 PM | #1464 |
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I have end results for each day. I don't have step-by-step votes.
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09-28-2009, 08:09 PM | #1465 |
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Can you post the end results at least? I don't have them on this computer.
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09-28-2009, 08:12 PM | #1466 |
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Day 1 end votes:
4 - no lynch - KWhit (103), MartinD (133), DaddyTorgo (182), PurdueBrad (185) 9 - MartinD - Mia Ow (142), Schmidty (154), Telle (183), claphamsa (192), The Jackal (207), Lathum (262), Alan T (282), lerriuqs (285), Danny (293) 2 - claphamsa - LSG (156), Darth (159) 3 - Lerriuqs - Chief Rum (242), GoldenEagle (245), JAG (296) |
09-28-2009, 08:14 PM | #1467 |
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Day 2 end votes:
1 - Chief Rum - LoneStarGirl (387) 6 - No Lynch - KWhit (423), Chief Rum (425), PurdueBrad (430), J23 (457), Lerriuqs (505), GoldenEagle (506) 6 - GoldenEagle - claphamsa (433), Lathum (450), Schmidty (464), The Jackal (467), Darth (489), JAG (490) 1 - The Jackal, Alan T (466) |
09-28-2009, 08:15 PM | #1468 |
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Day 3 end votes:
5 - Lerriuqs - LoneStarGirl (590), Lorena (603), claphamsa (701), The Jackal (723), J23 (739) 1 - Darth Vilus - Lathum (627) 1 - The Jackal - KWhit (655) 8 - J23 - Alan T (706), Lerriuqs (713), KWhit (716), DaddyTorgo (717), Darth Vilus (723), Schmidty (735), Jag (743), GoldenEagle (746) |
09-28-2009, 08:17 PM | #1469 |
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Day 4 end votes:
1 - The Jackal - claphamsa (756) 8 - claphamsa - Lathum (825), The Jackal (900), Telle (911), JAG (934), GoldenEagle (949), KWhit (952), Darth Vilus (965), Schmidty (979) 1 - Schmidty - LoneStarGirl (832) 4 - GoldenEagle - Lorena (838), PurdueBrad (897), Lerriuqs (944), DaddyTorgo (967) |
09-28-2009, 08:18 PM | #1470 |
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Day 5 end votes:
11 - The Jackal - JAG (1019), Telle (1034), Darth Vilus (1041), PurdueBrad (1045), The Jackal (1048), GoldenEagle (1052), KWhit (1060), Lerriuqs (1063), Lorena (1064), Schmidty (1067), LoneStarGirl (1089) 1 - Telle - Lathum (1114) |
09-28-2009, 08:19 PM | #1471 |
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Day 6 end votes:
5 - LoneStarGirl - JAG (1144), Telle (1231), Lathum (1240), Schmidty (1245), PurdueBrad (1262) 1 - GoldenEagle - Lorena (1177) 3 - Lathum - LoneStarGirl (1185), Lerriuqs (1191), Kwhit (1204) 1 - Lorena - GoldenEagle (1225) Lathum dukes to GoldenEagle |
09-28-2009, 08:20 PM | #1472 |
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Day 7 end votes:
1 - Schmidty - LoneStarGirl (1330) 6 - LoneStarGirl - JAG (1335), Telle (1337), Lathum (1340), KWhit (1341), PurdueBrad (1342), Lorena (1343) |
09-28-2009, 08:21 PM | #1473 |
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Day 8 end votes:
1 - Schmidty - PurdueBrad (1375) 4 - Lorena - Telle (1377), KWhit (1387), JAG (1389), Schmidty (1394) 1 - PurdueBrad - Lorena (1399) |
09-28-2009, 08:25 PM | #1474 |
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This is tough.
But I think I know who I will be voting for. Let me try to cobble together my reasoning. |
09-28-2009, 08:27 PM | #1475 |
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First of all, I considered Telle. I sort of wanted to give her a chance to place a vote on Schmidty or PB as I think a wolf would possibly take advantage of the tie over the past few hours to come up with a reason, place a vote on one of them and hope I followed along. The fact that she hasn't indicates to me that she is more likely to be a villager.
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09-28-2009, 08:31 PM | #1476 |
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So I looked closer at PB and Schmidty. They each have a point in their favor that makes them look like villagers.
PB had his conversation with AlanT. Schmidty had his vote for J23. |
09-28-2009, 08:34 PM | #1477 | ||
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But Schmidty's vote went like this:
At about 2:30 eastern: Quote:
Then at 2:45: Quote:
So it's possible Schmidty didn't quite know what to do as a wolf and tried to sneak in a vote for J23 to help himself because it looked pretty clear at the time that the tide had totally turned toward a lynch of him (which it had). |
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09-28-2009, 08:37 PM | #1478 | ||||
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And then there was the weirdness around the clap vote when we were trying to figure out if Jackal or clap was the seer.
And Schmidty looked like he pushed hard to keep us from lynching clap. Quote:
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The vote at the end was meaningless. It came 2 minutes before deadline when things were already out of hand. |
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09-28-2009, 08:39 PM | #1479 |
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So out of Schmidty and PurdueBrad, I am thinking that I will vote for Schmidty.
But I'm still not sold on Telle. Schmidty, what are your thoughts on her? |
09-28-2009, 08:40 PM | #1480 |
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Ugh.. I was leaning more towards PurdueBrad.
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09-28-2009, 08:41 PM | #1481 |
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Oh and Telle, thanks for posting the vote history.
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09-28-2009, 08:41 PM | #1482 |
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Telle, why PB?
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09-28-2009, 08:42 PM | #1483 |
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And here's the problem if you vote for me. Let's say you do that, and then out of the other two I manage to pick the real wolf. Well then all he's gotta do is move his vote to me and that makes a tie, which is no lynch.. and then night kills one of us and then he's got the 1:1 ratio since KWhit doesn't count.
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09-28-2009, 08:43 PM | #1484 |
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One small thing I forgot to mention in PB's favor is that he was pushing for no lynch in days 1 and 2 instead of voting for villagers. If he was a wolf, i would expect him to try to lynch someone that he knew was a villager since that would benefit the wolves, IMO.
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09-28-2009, 08:44 PM | #1485 |
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I just trust Schmidty's vote on J23 more than I trust PurdueBrad's convo with Alan.
And I like your analysis on Schmidty.. but don't you think there would have been wolves in contact with Schmidty right when he got on telling him where to vote? He wouldn't have had to read everything to catch up. But I'm seriously not sure either way. |
09-28-2009, 08:45 PM | #1486 |
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Yeah I thought of that KWhit, but I can also see the wolves designating one of their own to be the "no lynch" guy just to gain favor that way.
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09-28-2009, 08:47 PM | #1487 | |
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I know. Just trying to look in all directions. I would make sure to make a case to get the other guys to follow if I really thought you were a wolf. You are the only person that I don't have good indicators of guilt or innocence on yet. |
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09-28-2009, 08:48 PM | #1488 |
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PB, what are your thoughts on Telle?
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09-28-2009, 08:57 PM | #1489 |
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Heh.. nobody seems to want to answer you about me
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09-28-2009, 08:59 PM | #1490 |
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No they don't. I re-read every one of your posts and can't find anything that makes me think you are either good or bad.
And your voting history doesn't help either. You are an unknown quantity. |
09-28-2009, 09:04 PM | #1491 | |
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Wanted to respond to this. Yes, J23 and The Jackal were both around during the time that Schmidty was debating who to vote for. My only thought is that they decided J23 was a lost cause and that Schmidty should try to gain some credibility by voting for him. It's weak, I know. |
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09-28-2009, 09:04 PM | #1492 |
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So what do you want to do? Do you want to make your vote tonight or tomorrow? It doesn't look like anybody else is going to help us tonight.
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09-28-2009, 09:10 PM | #1493 | |
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True. I doubt they could say anything that would lead me to vote for you anyway, now that I've re-read your posts. I think I've decided. Vote Schmidty |
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09-28-2009, 09:14 PM | #1494 |
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I hope you're right. I'm still on the fence and leaning towards PB.. but we can't have a tie.
vote Schmidty vote nightfalll |
09-28-2009, 09:15 PM | #1495 | |
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KWhit, while I would love to move the spotlight off myself in any way here, this is my exact read on Telle which is why I couldn't bring myself to vote there. I stand by my vote and will go down with it if I'm wrong. |
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09-28-2009, 09:16 PM | #1496 |
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KWhit, nightfall has to be unanimous if we want to end this thing now.
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09-28-2009, 09:17 PM | #1497 |
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I've got three nightfall votes -- as I said when the day began, I need four nightfall votes for the game to end. Since I also said I will accept 'unvote nightfall' votes, this is not a trivial issue.
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09-28-2009, 09:20 PM | #1498 |
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09-28-2009, 09:21 PM | #1499 | |
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You just cost us the game. I've explained all I can, over and over. I'm not a wolf. Period. If I get lynched, the game's over. What do you want me to say? I want us to win, so give me something. I only have a couple hours until I'm out of commission until after tomorrow's deadline. Here are my reasons for each player: PurdueBrad - I actually only started noticing him in the past day or so, but the way he sort of passive-aggressively pushed the vote for me, and his (very good) analysis even of himself, really pushed me toward him. Telle - Much less of a solid feel, but the thing with her is that (tossing aside her missed votes because of RL) she's been really under the radar and going with the flow. Not really adamant about anything, and not really putting herself out there as much as most people. Slight gut-thing. So basically as I said, it's a crapshoot. I'm not a wolf, but I've pretty much exhausted what I can say unless you have any questions that I can answer that I haven't thought of.
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VOTE NIGHTFALL
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