Werewolf CLX - Atlantic City - GAME OVER

[Autumn]

Deadline

[Autumn]

Day 9 Voting

3 Coffee Warlord ----------- path12 (1394), Narcizo (1416), Coffee Warlord (1444)
3 Path12 -------------------- Coffee Warlord (1401), the jackal (1440), mauchow (1447)

[Autumn]

Does that look right?

[Autumn]

Catching up.

[Danny]

Hmmm

[mauchow]

I just got back in.. thought I'd make it back before deadlinem

[Autumn]

The city seems torn apart, every corner and cafe filled with people squabbling over who's responsible for what. It seemed the Mafia was nearly gone, and yet they're still here, a situation more frustrating for the dashed hopes than the initial oppression had been. At the end of the day the two sides stare at each other deadlocked. No decision can be made.

But this is Atlantic City, and in the end the House makes the call. Furtive phone calls come in, the DA checks his texts. "It would seem our prime suspect in this case is Path12. He will be arrested, and you can rest assured that justice will be done."

Path12 actually looks relieved when they pull him out of his house in the custody of several armed officers. "I haven't dared leave in days," he shouts to a nearby cameraman. A forensics team sweeps the apartment and computers are carted out. Anonymous sources say that detectives have found suspicious money transfers on his accounts, and surveillance video shows several known criminals have frequented the location over the last few days. "Success!" reads an early, premature headline.

Several hours later the DA has held a press conference. "Although there is a great deal of evidence to suggest that Path12's accounts have been used for illegal purposes, it is our belief that this was done without the permission of Path12 himself. he appears to be a victim of the mob, just as we all are. You can be sure we will use this evidence to move forward." Path12 himself volunteers to remain in jail until it's all cleared up. "I feel safer here," he remarks.

Path12 was a Resident who was In the Mob's Pocket

[Coffee Warlord]

And now we have to think.

[Autumn]

DAY NINE WINNING BIDS
Mick "Stones" McGee - $0
Donna Black Investigations - $300
Cookie's Ladies - $0
Sandy Back Messenger Service - $0
Casino2Casino Wire Transfer - $0

BLACKMARKET SERVICES - HIRE AT YOUR OWN RISK
The Money Hole - $0
Nicky the Trigger, hitman - $1,600
"Stumpy" Jones, thug - $0

[mauchow]

Hmm..

[Autumn]

I believe everything is processed. let me know if I have forgotten anything.

Night will run until Monday 9 am EST

----or-----

Until I have received all bets and night actions. So if you'd like it to process sooner, send in your stuff. but only send in your stuff once you're sure, as if I see I've received everything I'm going to go ahead and process.

[Coffee Warlord]

I'd suggest whoever bought the seer takes a good long look at either CR or Narc.

[Coffee Warlord]

Seeing as there's no BG, I'd also suggest the seer keeps his mouth shut.

[britrock88]

Pull it out, village!!!

[The Jackal]

Sorry path but I think this is a slight benefit even if it wasn't a win. I know where I am looking tomorrow.

[The Jackal]

It might be no lynch, I've had a few beers and my phone is almost dead so I can't check the players left

[Danny]

Originally Posted by britrock88

Pull it out, village!!!

It's ok, us Mafia are on the pill.

[The Jackal]

So it's 4-1 right now, meaning it will likely be 3-1 on the morrow, so we'll go for no lynch, force more bids, and see where we are at.

[Narcizo]

Originally Posted by Coffee Warlord

I'd suggest whoever bought the seer takes a good long look at either CR or Narc.

I thought that the only one it could be after Path was mau? Why are you wanting to look at me or CR? Shouldn't we all be voting/scanning mau as he's the only logical choice?

Personally with this being end game I will take any positive result from a seer scan with a pinch of salt. So I'm down with a scan of me - just bear in mind that the wolf demonstably can make multiple bids. Or Coffee and mau are wolves. If that's the case then Jackal has screwed up.

[Narcizo]

Meh. I've thought of another explanation to what happened on day seven. Great timing after we'd lynched the two people we had cleared.

If you want an explanation that doesn't break any of the rules then it is that Coffee and mau are wolves. Coffee didn't send the prostitutes and mau could have made the kill. With an extra wolf days 3 and 5 don't clear mau. Oh fuck!

Presuming that they would have to be on opposing sides or the game would be over now, presuming they have the night kill (and I don't see any way a wolf doesn't have the kill). If a villager has been lying and has more money then they're letting on and got the hitman then
A) I love you, and
B) don't use it. Obviously.

Presuming mau and Coffee are wolves on opposing sides then I have a question to the one with the kill. Are you sure you have more money then the other wolf after your $1600 outlay? If you're sure then you've won - presuming you don't get lynched on the last day. If you're not sure then you might leave the game with nothing [/Anne Robinson]. It will presumably come down to who has the most money to bid on the wolf-killer or who wins the vote. If you don't use the kill and fess up we'll vote the other one tomorrow and you get a minor win.

Of course if there's only one wolf then you may procede as you were. My money's on it being Coffee. Again.

[Coffee Warlord]

[Coffee Warlord]

Originally Posted by Narcizo

I thought that the only one it could be after Path was mau? Why are you wanting to look at me or CR? Shouldn't we all be voting/scanning mau as he's the only logical choice?

Before we discovered how it went down, yes. It's pretty apparent the wolves had the ability to force path to purchase and use services. My original theory was sound - path was effectively a bastardized cunning.

Personally with this being end game I will take any positive result from a seer scan with a pinch of salt. So I'm down with a scan of me - just bear in mind that the wolf demonstably can make multiple bids. Or Coffee and mau are wolves. If that's the case then Jackal has screwed up.

And no. No they can't. Still.

[The Jackal]

Originally Posted by Narcizo

I thought that the only one it could be after Path was mau? Why are you wanting to look at me or CR? Shouldn't we all be voting/scanning mau as he's the only logical choice?

Personally with this being end game I will take any positive result from a seer scan with a pinch of salt. So I'm down with a scan of me - just bear in mind that the wolf demonstably can make multiple bids. Or Coffee and mau are wolves. If that's the case then Jackal has screwed up.

wha?

[Chief Rum]

I tend toward CW's thinking, that path was the source of the second bids we were saying and unable to explain. With path gone, I would presume we only have one wolf and that that wolf owns the nightkill.

I can't entirely discount the possibility of two wolves, though, since such an occurrence would be a potential alternate explanation for some of the things we have been seeing.

[Narcizo]

Originally Posted by The Jackal

wha?

By not voting Coffee.

[Coffee Warlord]

Narc, your theories have progressed in this game from misguided, to wrong, to absurd, to batshit insane.

I've provided the village with plans based on logic, and look, they panned out. Not in exactly how I was picturing, but rather close. You've provided the equivalent of 'a wizard did it'. You were gung ho on me for days, you magically decided I WASN'T bad for a day, and now you're back on it, flinging out absolutely ludicrous ideas that have little to no logical basis to back your claim.

I can only assume you are the final wolf, trying to generate enough confusion to buy yourself time and get me killed in the process.

[Coffee Warlord]

By the by, re: two wolves remaining theories. That would mean we started with an uneven number of wolves on the two sides, and what, 7 wolves? I'm sceptical of that.

[Narcizo]

Originally Posted by Coffee Warlord

Narc, your theories have progressed in this game from misguided, to wrong, to absurd, to batshit insane.

I've provided the village with plans based on logic, and look, they panned out. Not in exactly how I was picturing, but rather close. You've provided the equivalent of 'a wizard did it'. You were gung ho on me for days, you magically decided I WASN'T bad for a day, and now you're back on it, flinging out absolutely ludicrous ideas that have little to no logical basis to back your claim.

They panned out? Your plan that we should kill all the cleared players because they must be cunning until we have our backs to the wall. Yeah that one worked out perfectly. No I don't have a road map - like you seem to have available at all times. I'm not certain about things - but I am certain that if your theory is correct and the wolves don't have multiple bids then Jackal, Mau and I can't be wolves. So you're barking up the wrong tree thinking I'm a wolf.

[Narcizo]

Originally Posted by Coffee Warlord

By the by, re: two wolves remaining theories. That would mean we started with an uneven number of wolves on the two sides, and what, 7 wolves? I'm sceptical of that.

It's a possibility. The rules don't say how many wolves there are. Maybe one wolf team has a roled leader. Unlike you I don't know everything about this game. I lost nothing by making the offer, I don't think the village should act on the theory unless anything comes of it before the end of the night.

[Narcizo]

As, if there is a villager death and two wolves, then we have already lost and we might as well play in the hope that that isn't the case.

[Coffee Warlord]

Alright, I'll humor you for a moment.

If the wolves don't have multiple bids, please explain why Jackal, You, and Mau cannot be wolves. Particularly since you JUST said me and mau are both wolves.

[Narcizo]

Originally Posted by Narcizo

DAY THREE WINNING BIDS (5 Wolves)
Mick "Stones" McGee - $380 Claimed by JAG, used on Self
Donna Black Investigations - $1,000 Claimed by Narcizo, cleared DV
Cookie's Ladies - $350 Claimed by mauchow, used on DaddyTorgo
Friends4Life Dating Service - $1,000 claimed by Brit, used on Jackal

BLACKMARKET SERVICES - HIRE AT YOUR OWN RISK
The Money Hole - $500
Joe "Creaky" Reitzler, hitman - $1,100
"Stumpy" Jones, thug - $111 bought by LV (presumably) used on murra5y
Trayvon Michaels, crooked cop - $2 used on Brit

DAY FIVE WINNING BIDS (3 wolves)
Mick "Stones" McGee - $500 - Claimed by Jackal, used on self
Donna Black Investigations - $896 - Claimed by mau, used on Zinto
Casino2Casino Wire Transfer - $125 . Claimed by narcizo, used on ?
Freddie von Maur, Casino Manager - $700

BLACK MARKET SERVICES - HIRE AT YOUR OWN RISK
Joe "Creaky" Reitzler, hitman - $501
Mikhail Vavilov, arms dealer - $1,066

I have consistently said that this shows that mau can't be a wolf. If there are three wolves left on day five and there are five unexplained bids then Jackal, mau and I can't be wolves. With the unfortunate proviso that DV could have bid on the Casino Manager and not bothered to mention it.

On day three it would be close to impossible for the five wolves spread across two teams to have synchonised their bids so as to get five services. It was pretty impressive that they managed to get four. So mau and I can't be wolves.

[Coffee Warlord]

If you want an explanation that doesn't break any of the rules then it is that Coffee and mau are wolves. Coffee didn't send the prostitutes and mau could have made the kill. With an extra wolf days 3 and 5 don't clear mau. Oh fuck!

Which is it, dude?

[Narcizo]

Originally Posted by Coffee Warlord

Alright, I'll humor you for a moment.

If the wolves don't have multiple bids, please explain why Jackal, You, and Mau cannot be wolves. Particularly since you JUST said me and mau are both wolves.

If you are both wolves then the numbers are off - mau could conceivably have bid on Donna Black if you bid on the Casino Manager. It's less of a reach that 6 wolves managed to synchonise their bids over 5 services on day three.

But you're right - it was probably paranoia speaking. There probably is just one wolf.

[Narcizo]

Originally Posted by Coffee Warlord

Which is it, dude?

Um I don't know. Because I'm a villager. Why do you think I'm a wolf? According to what you claim you believe I can't be. Or I'm phenomenally lucky but have decided to jeopardise the luck I got by going into other possibilities.

[Narcizo]

If I'm the lone wolf I don't go off on one about there being two wolves. I calmly point out what I just have and say "Yeah, Coffee's right. The wolves don't have multiple bids. So I can't be a wolf."

[Narcizo]

It has to be chief or coffee.

[Narcizo]

This isn't something I haven't said before. Anyone would think that people don't listen to me.

FWIW JAG was onboard with my reasoning proving mau couldn't be a wolf.

[Narcizo]

I think it likely that Coffee's explanation is correct and Path was used as a proxy for a bid (I believe I actually mentioned the possibility before - but then again I pretty much mentioned every other possibility as well so I'll freely agree that that doesn't say much). I'm relieved to say that I kind of think the possibility of two wolves is out there and the proxy bid is probably saner. I'd like to pretend that I posted all that on the off-chance and because it cost nothing but this game has been running long enough for me to believe any conceivable crap that pops into my head at any given time. But, like I said, if nothing comes of it tonight then it's not anything the village should concern itself with going forwards.

[Narcizo]

I think Coffee looks guilty but another part of me is drawn to trusting the one who comes out against me and suspicious of the one who is "willing to consider" what I have to say. So I don't know. Hopefully I get offed and you guys can sort it out.

[Narcizo]

And, like I said, I'm a lot more willing to listen to a scan that clears someone compared to a scan that damns someone. I think the village should be aware that the rules in the end game aren't the same as in the rest of the game.

[Chief Rum]

Originally Posted by Narcizo

I think Coffee looks guilty but another part of me is drawn to trusting the one who comes out against me and suspicious of the one who is "willing to consider" what I have to say. So I don't know. Hopefully I get offed and you guys can sort it out.

"You know, I'm really suspicious of women. They just come off cagey to me.

But I am also leery of men. Just too damn shady.

Also, I can't trust myself. I may be a wolf. I can't be sure."

[Autumn]

Night results will run this evening at some point, so if you wish to change anything you have a couple of hours to do so.

[Narcizo]

Okay I've been thinking. I think 80% Coffee is the baddy, 15% Chief is, 5% Jackal or Mau is. I hope all villagers have some cash now. If you agree with Coffee and me then you'll agree that one of Chief or Coffee must be the wolf.

Tomorrow we lynch Coffee. Let's say he's a villager. A.N.Other bids on Cookies Ladies and sends them to Chief. Chief can't make a kill - the other two villagers lynch him the day after.

I realise that this sort of plan is going to make everyone suspicious of old narc so whoever has the seer scans me. If the wolf kills me, fine, you'll know I'm a villager. Hopefully Jackal and mau will listen to me and act together for the good of the village. Or he'll take a shot at killing the bidder of the seer. Well, then, we'll cross that bridge when we come to it, depending on how that pans out.

Now you're maybe worried that I am the cunning looking to be scanned. (And you think I'm the paranoid one? ) In that case I am the cunning wolf with double-bidding powers and you should all bow before my superiority as I am the most unbalanced role ever.

Of course if mau or Jackal is a wolf then we're toast with this plan. But if we're honest we're probably toast anyway - whoever it is only has to keep me alive and I'll vote for Chief or Coffee on the last day. So I'll take my chances there.

[Narcizo]

This is a logical plan. Coffee's plan that we kill all the cleared people and THEN run around like headless chickens accusing anyone who looks at us funny? Not so much.

[Coffee Warlord]

Originally Posted by Narcizo

If you agree with Coffee and me then you'll agree that one of Chief or Coffee must be the wolf.

Why yes, if you agree with Coffee, then I am the wolf!

...

Riiiight.

While I *do* agree in suspecting Chief, I believe it's between you and Chief.

[Chief Rum]

Well, since we all agree we suspect Chief, let's just lynch me then.

[Autumn]

Deadline. night results processing.

[Autumn]

Another day in Atlantic City. Much of the press has moved on but things are still tense. There's no way you want the city to be known simply for mob murders and bad arrests. you check the paper hoping it's all over.

But it's not yet. Another murder occurred last night, a fellow beat to death. Some of you may have known Mauchow. He loved the roulette table and had a thing for candy corn. But now he's dead, and it seems Atlantic City is still not safe.

Mauchow was a Resident of Atlantic City.

[Autumn]

Night 9 has ended. Day 10 has begun. Lynch votes are due on Monday by 9 pm EST.