Werewolf XXV: A long time ago...game over, Sith win,full role listing at 2030

[hoopsguy]

Final votes as I show them:

ardent - KWhit (1360)
stkelly - AE (1305), Sack (1325), cartman (1336), path (1363), Hoops (1380)
Hoops - Penny (1309), Gram (1350), Taz (1390), King (1433), stkelly (1435)
King - SnDvls (1330), Desnudo (1410)

StKelly, if you are Jedi and you die as a result of our tie, I'm sorry that I had to vote for you.

[SnDvls]

Originally Posted by saldana

guys, i am hung up at work, and am going to be a little bit...i will extend the deadline unitl 10pm so as not to make you all wait with nothing to do

this will make it interesting now

[kingfc22]

An extension, interesting...

[hoopsguy]

OK, I can still give the information out if we need it, but I would really prefer not to as it makes me an easy target tonight. However, I believe the bodyguard is still out there (have not seen the lightsaber that matches the one seen in Night 2 beating back Sith) so I will do it if the group thinks it makes sense.

I'm not the seer, bodyguard, or duke. I think this one is special to Star Wars, more or less ...

[Vince]

Not a big fan of that extension...kind of kills the strategy of those who waited until the end to swap over to Hoops.

[hoopsguy]

Agreed, Vince. Although I'm not a big fan of being swapped over to in this case

[Poli]

Wow, an extension.

Looks like I'll be beating some students into the ground in an hour. Anyone want to come over and watch?

[Poli]

So, hoops, what's the deal?

[hoopsguy]

In the interest of fairness I'm willing to sit and wait 30 minutes for Saldana to come back without revealing any more information than I already have. And hope that I don't lose the tie-breaker.

[TazFTW]

Originally Posted by hoopsguy

OK, I can still give the information out if we need it, but I would really prefer not to as it makes me an easy target tonight. However, I believe the bodyguard is still out there (have not seen the lightsaber that matches the one seen in Night 2 beating back Sith) so I will do it if the group thinks it makes sense.

I'm not the seer, bodyguard, or duke. I think this one is special to Star Wars, more or less ...

Princess Leia?

[Desnudo]

George Lucas. A lot of build up, but not a whole lot of bang.

[Poli]

Then allow me to press you a bit.

UNVOTE Stkelly
VOTE HOOPS

I hope you don't mind. I'd rather lynch kelly, but I want to hear more out of you. An extension is an extension, fair or not.

[hoopsguy]

Not exactly But pretty funny.

[SackAttack]

sorry, guys. On the phone. I'm still reading the thread though.

[SackAttack]

Originally Posted by saldana

guys, i am hung up at work, and am going to be a little bit...i will extend the deadline unitl 10pm so as not to make you all wait with nothing to do

I have to disagree with this. That unbalances the game. What if hoops wasn't around to defend himself? Or if it had swung to somebody else who wasn't around?

[Desnudo]

It already has.

[Desnudo]

I mean the game has swung.

[hoopsguy]

OK, if we are using the extension ...

My initial PM (fairly heavy paraphrasing) said that I was strong in the force but didn't give me any special abilities. It didn't sound like generic Jedi, but without any night actions I was playing as an ordinary villager.

This morning I got a PM after Jeeber died indicating that I was deeply saddened by the death of Jeeber but knew that he was not yet gone for me. That, coupled with his death scene (1292), makes me suspect that my role has been activated.

[SackAttack]

Originally Posted by Desnudo

I mean the game has swung.

Yes it has, but it went from being a tie vote to a player being in danger of a lynch because of an improper deadline extension. For the deadline to get extended literally at the last minute isn't fair.

If, at the start of the day, an extended deadline had been announced, that would be one thing.

At this point, it's an extension that allows those on the board to swing in one direction or another, but those not around don't have the opportunity to change their vote that everybody else is gaining right now.

[Poli]

Doh! I just realized my unvote of stkelly would possibly put the breaker on hoopsguy, unless someone like Des wants to revote stkelly.

[Poli]

I hope one of you will vote with me.
UNVOTE HOOPS

VOTE STKELLY

[Poli]

Any revelations from stkelly at this point?

[hoopsguy]

If you look at my first post this morning the first paragraph talks about how I was saddened. I think it is the only time I've spoken in "Star Wars speak" the entire game. Post #1304.

[Poli]

I'll buy that. I don't think you would type that in the beginning of the day to save your hide in the end. Possible, but I doubt it.

Des?

[Desnudo]

stkelly, any particular role to play in this?

[saldana]

well here is a serious fuck up on my part then....no matter what i decide to do at this point, i forced hoops' hand. i apologize for the enormous screw up....voting is closed...stand by

[Desnudo]

Saldana, we still have 5 minutes on your deadline. I'd say either revert to 9:30 or give us the extra time.

[hoopsguy]

If I lose the tie-breaker because AE removed the vote between 8:30 and 9 (CST), and then put it back, thus changing who dies, only to have voting closed 5 minutes ahead of extension, then I will be frustrated. Everything else I'm basically OK with. I don't want to nit-pick at what has been a fun game. And my wife will appreciate having me around in the evenings again ...

[Desnudo]

Well, FWIW. If AE's latest vote counts, this one should too.

Unvote King
Vote Stkelly

[saldana]

can everyone please make sure they have space in their pm boxes

[Poli]

Agreed, if we're closing the window, it should be at 10:00

[kingfc22]

I'd say just use the original deadline. Nothing really has changed other than hoops reveal, real or not

[hoopsguy]

I predict that I will have a green lightsaber, fwiw.

[Desnudo]

Originally Posted by saldana

can everyone please make sure they have space in their pm boxes

Mine has been clear the entire game.

[saldana]

ok, again i apologize, this screw up is totally on me, i wasnt really thinking straight when i put the extension on because i only had about 30 seconds to post and the votes moving around completely fucked everything up. i am going back to the 9:30 vote totals...ardents and denudos votes after that don't count...my open apology to hoops for pressuring him unnecessarily and forcing his hand.

[saldana]

You gather slowly in the galley, entering one at a time, no one in a real hurry to get down to what, to this point, has been generally very unpleasant. Tonight doesnt seem like it is going to be much better, as the votes for several members of your group flew fast and furious throughout the day.

As night falls, the vote is tied. Hoopsguy and StKelly52 both stand at the front of the room, seemingly waiting for some kind of final decision. The last man enters the room, it is Sndvls. "Wait a moment," he says with a very monotone voice and a vacant stare on his face. "I don't want to vote for Kingfc22. I want to vote for StKelly52".

A look of horror crosses StKelly's face, as the tie is now broken, and his fate is decided. He ignites a turquoise bladed lightsaber and swings at the nearest person. SackAttack narrowly avoids the deadly blow and ignites his own weapon to meet StKelly's attack.

The battle is short, StKelly is not nearly as expericened a swordsman as SackAttack, and this becomes evident as several times Sack has an opportunity to fell his opponent and holds back. StKelly will not relent however, and in the end, Sack is left with no choice. An overagressive swing at Sack's head is nimbly ducked, Sack dropping to one knee. He extends his blade forward and artfully carves a huge letter 'S' into StKelly's chest with the tip of his lightsaber.

The battle is over, StKelly is dead. And although he fought agressively, his ability was not that of a someone who was channeling anger and hatred. In fact, his face and aura both conveyed a certain sense of desperation, certainly not one of the emotions that the Dark Side feeds upon.

day 6 has ended (and with it, all saldana's credibility as a DM)

night actions are due by 9:30am on thursday

[saldana]

for the first time in history, the thread is empty of everyone but a dead player and an observer when the day action resolves......goddamn i screwed that pooch hard.

[SnDvls]

I'm here

[SackAttack]

Originally Posted by saldana

for the first time in history, the thread is empty of everyone but a dead player and an observer when the day action resolves......goddamn i screwed that pooch hard.

Did you at least give him a reacharound?

[mckerney]

[Desnudo]

What does that mean? It also doesn't say he was a Jedi.

[SackAttack]

dola,

Poor stkelly.

I guess he died as he lived: heart in the right place, but just too aggressive.

[TazFTW]

Originally Posted by Desnudo

What does that mean? It also doesn't say he was a Jedi.

Yes it does.

In fact, his face and aura both conveyed a certain sense of desperation, certainly not one of the emotions that the Dark Side feeds upon.

[SnDvls]

I think we all left so you could post actions. people are coming back now.

I don't fault you for your change/re-change. you made a quick decision, but I feel corrected it...

now it looks like I too have been mind swapted just like Ardent.
I had a similar experience too. all I remember is a hooded person and me saying I didn't want to vote King I wanted to vote StKelly....hmmm

[hoopsguy]

Glad to be around, although I was pretty sure that Stkelly was Jedi. I hate self-preservation votes.

Still believe the bodyguard is out there and hope he is around to protect me tonight. I rarely ask for this, but after the forced reveal I think that I'm a pretty likely target.

I think SnDvls' forced vote goes a long, long way towards backing Ardent's story.

If the bodyguard is still in the game and in the mood to take advice, if it isn't me you are guarding then it should be Ardent.

[Desnudo]

That doesn't say he was a Jedi. It says he wasn't a Sith.

[SackAttack]

Originally Posted by Desnudo

What does that mean? It also doesn't say he was a Jedi.

Seems to be implying he wasn't. He didn't call upon anger and hatred. Only desperation (although I would argue that desperation = fear of a kind, and fear is another path to the Dark Side).

But it does look like saldana meant to imply he was a Jedi.

[SackAttack]

Correction: that first sentence should have read "seems to be implying he was."

[cartman]

It doesn't look good for SnDvls tomorrow. I think he is being sacrificed by the DM for the mistake.

To me, that means that there are more than two Siths out there.

[Desnudo]

Originally Posted by SackAttack

Seems to be implying he wasn't. He didn't call upon anger and hatred. Only desperation (although I would argue that desperation = fear of a kind, and fear is another path to the Dark Side).

But it does look like saldana meant to imply he was a Jedi.

It doesn't sound like he's evil by any stretch. Especially compared to Dubb's death. What I mainly was wondering is if he wasn't someone aligned with the Jedi, but not a Jedi. The mention that his saber skills weren't equal to yours sort of implies that as well.