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Old 08-12-2011, 08:05 PM   #1501
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Day 4 Voting as of post 1500:

Autumn 6 - hoopsguy (1395), Barkeep49 (1399), Lathum (1405), ntndeacon (1463), mauboy1 (1471), mckerney (1482)
Thomkal 4 - Narcizo (1349), Zinto (1413), jeheinz72 (1415), Racer (1441)
Barkeep49 2 - Autumn (1348), EagleFan (1406)
Telle 2 - Chubby (1481), MrBug708 (1496)


Day 5 deadline votes:
Monday 6 - MrBug708, hoopsguy, Narcizo, jeheinz72, ntndeacon, Chubby
Sunday 2 - Thomkal, Racer

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Old 08-12-2011, 08:14 PM   #1502
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monday is fine
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Old 08-12-2011, 08:44 PM   #1503
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I like Chubby's theory here about Telle, so let's see if it checks out. I'll vote Autumn if need be to keep me safe, but he was the one that made me switch my vote to Danny at the end of the day so I have some level of trust with him right now.
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Old 08-12-2011, 08:44 PM   #1504
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Old 08-12-2011, 08:45 PM   #1505
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For the mistletoe question I would say pass it to either Chubby, hoops or Lathum.

Wait until the deadline to say who you chose though.
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Old 08-12-2011, 08:49 PM   #1506
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unvote BK

vote Telle


Solid reasoning by Chubby to lead to this vote. Though Chubby could be jerking us all around and be a wolf (though I highly doubt that at this point as the real Thor would have come out by now as it would give us a third wolf already).
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Old 08-12-2011, 08:49 PM   #1507
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For the mistletoe question I would say pass it to either Chubby, hoops or Lathum.

Wait until the deadline to say who you chose though.

I will hopefully be getting my hammer tonight so the mistletoe will get randomed if sent to me, I'm not the best choice.
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Old 08-12-2011, 08:51 PM   #1508
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I will hopefully be getting my hammer tonight so the mistletoe will get randomed if sent to me, I'm not the best choice.

ah, didn't realize.

So I guess you didn't get the sword that I passed you on night one?
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Old 08-12-2011, 08:54 PM   #1509
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ah, didn't realize.

So I guess you didn't get the sword that I passed you on night one?

nope, I have never had the sword. i believe that was the same night I got Gleipnir from Lathum so that would mean the sword was randomed
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Old 08-12-2011, 09:02 PM   #1510
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Just going to call this now...Day 5 Deadline will be Monday at 10pm EST.
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Old 08-12-2011, 09:09 PM   #1511
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What?

Vote Friday, Friday
Gotta get lynched on Friday
Everybody’s lookin’ forward to the weekend, weekend
Vote Friday, Friday
Gettin’ lynched on Friday
Everybody’s lookin’ forward to the weekend
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Old 08-12-2011, 09:09 PM   #1512
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I think it seems very likely the fake hammer came from Telle. I ws thrown because of her random distribution (itself a wolfy sign) but I still think that we've likely accounted for where the real hammer came from: DV.

Unvote Autumn
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Old 08-12-2011, 09:10 PM   #1513
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Just got home and caught up. Too bad you guys chose the day I said I'd be gone to vote me. I don't have the time to write much in defense, my wife is waiting for me, an I like her more than you guys :-)

I would hope that my help in getting Danny lynched would speak in my favor, and I have pushed earth into things numerous times too. That should saydarth stupid iPad

I don't have a role or an item so I'm okay going to Valhalla

The case on telle looked better at quick glance so

vote telle
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Old 08-12-2011, 09:10 PM   #1514
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Old 08-12-2011, 09:13 PM   #1515
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OK, running out of time on this for today but will try to pick it up Sunday night.

The Living:
Telle
- Votes: D1 Danny 2nd vote, made totals 3-3-3-2. D2 NTN vote (3rd), made total 7-5-3 Danny/Chubby/NTN. D3 votes Lathum to close margin to 7-6 with 17 minutes to go.
- Items: passed (fake?) hammer to Narcizo D1 -> D2
- Posts:

Please note, I DID NOT pass the hammer to Narcizo!! I let it go random.. so I have no idea who it went to. For all I know, I had the real hammer and it went through a series of either now-dead or wolf hands before getting to Racer, and Narcizo got his hammer from somebody else (or made it himself).
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Old 08-12-2011, 09:14 PM   #1516
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Please note, I DID NOT pass the hammer to Narcizo!! I let it go random.. so I have no idea who it went to. For all I know, I had the real hammer and it went through a series of either now-dead or wolf hands before getting to Racer, and Narcizo got his hammer from somebody else (or made it himself).

Which is why, as I said, if you come back as villager I look at Narc next. However, the most likely scenario by far IMO is that you are the wolf.
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Old 08-12-2011, 09:16 PM   #1517
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You're barking up the wrong tree Chubby. Unfortunately I have nothing to defend myself with though. I'm just sick of Narcizo and hoops and whoever else keep saying that I passed Narcizo a bad hammer when nobody, not even I, know if that's the truth or not.

vote Autumn
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Old 08-12-2011, 09:18 PM   #1518
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Also, why in the world would I come out and say that I had had a hammer and passed it randomly if I was a wolf? It's not like that has the slightest chance of drawing out Thor.. I didn't still have the hammer at that point to pass to him, and it was a known item in the game.. so all Thor would have learned was that there was a hammer, which he already knew!

If I was going to go passing around a fake hammer as a wolf, I sure as heck wouldn't be telling anybody about it.
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Old 08-12-2011, 09:21 PM   #1519
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What?

Vote Friday, Friday
Gotta get lynched on Friday
Everybody’s lookin’ forward to the weekend, weekend
Vote Friday, Friday
Gettin’ lynched on Friday
Everybody’s lookin’ forward to the weekend

Can we lynch him again for this?
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Old 08-12-2011, 09:21 PM   #1520
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Old 08-12-2011, 09:22 PM   #1521
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Day 4 Voting as of post 1520:

Autumn 6 - hoopsguy (1395), Lathum (1405), ntndeacon (1463), mauboy1 (1471), mckerney (1482), Telle (1517)
Telle 6 - Chubby (1481), MrBug708 (1496), Thomkal (1504), EagleFan (1506), Barkeep49 (1512), Autumn (1514)
Thomkal 4 - Narcizo (1349), Zinto (1413), jeheinz72 (1415), Racer (1441)

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Old 08-12-2011, 09:22 PM   #1522
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Finally checking in.

vote Autumn

Not like anyone's going to believe him when he claims to be a villager anyways

lest we forget this, when autumn was at -1 votes
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Old 08-12-2011, 09:23 PM   #1523
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I'm confused, is there any way to know whether Telle had the fake or real hammer if she let it go random?
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Old 08-12-2011, 09:23 PM   #1524
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Votes as of post #1518:

4 - Thomkal - Narcizo (1349), Zinto (1314), jeheinz (1415), Racer (1441)
6 - Autumn - hoopsguy (1395), Lathum (1405), ntndeacon (1463), mauboy (1470), mckerney (1482), Telle (1517)
6 - Telle - Chubby (1481), MrBug (1495), Thomkal (1504), EagleFan (1506), Barkeep (1512), Autumn (1514)
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Old 08-12-2011, 09:24 PM   #1525
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lest we forget this, when autumn was at -1 votes

Yeah and nobody else in this fricking game had a Day 1 half tongue-in-cheek post. Oh wait..
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Old 08-12-2011, 09:24 PM   #1526
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When did Telle mention the hammer? Before or after passing?
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Old 08-12-2011, 09:25 PM   #1527
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When did Telle mention the hammer? Before or after passing?

After. I mentioned it Day 2 when everyone was talking about the mistletoe.
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Old 08-12-2011, 09:26 PM   #1528
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I'm confused, is there any way to know whether Telle had the fake or real hammer if she let it go random?

bolded. I do not believe it was let go random, i think she passed the illusion to narc and passes the real one to a fellow wolf. Nobody has heard a peep about a 2nd hammer until last night when DV died. I think the random part was to build in an excuse while still trying to draw me out. My $0.02
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Old 08-12-2011, 09:26 PM   #1529
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Telle makes a pretty good point, why would she say anything?

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Old 08-12-2011, 09:26 PM   #1530
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need some separation there
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Old 08-12-2011, 09:27 PM   #1531
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bolded. I do not believe it was let go random, i think she passed the illusion to narc and passes the real one to a fellow wolf. Nobody has heard a peep about a 2nd hammer until last night when DV died. I think the random part was to build in an excuse while still trying to draw me out. My $0.02

Yes Chubby, because I really think you or anyone else in this game is stupid enough to be "drawn out" be me saying "I once had a hammer.. but I don't have it anymore".
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Old 08-12-2011, 09:27 PM   #1532
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bolded. I do not believe it was let go random, i think she passed the illusion to narc and passes the real one to a fellow wolf. Nobody has heard a peep about a 2nd hammer until last night when DV died. I think the random part was to build in an excuse while still trying to draw me out. My $0.02

But why say anything at all?
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Old 08-12-2011, 09:29 PM   #1533
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So MY $0.02: I either started with a fake hammer, and it got randomly sent to Narcizo and we know the chain from there ..or I started with the real hammer and it got randomly sent to the wolves who held onto it between themselves, made a fake one to send on, and then lost it when DV got lynched.
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Old 08-12-2011, 09:33 PM   #1534
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So MY $0.02: I either started with a fake hammer, and it got randomly sent to Narcizo and we know the chain from there ..or I started with the real hammer and it got randomly sent to the wolves who held onto it between themselves, made a fake one to send on, and then lost it when DV got lynched.

or you started with the real hammer as my step brother, passed an illusion onto narc and dealt the real one to another wolf to keep it away from me.

still going thru posts
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Old 08-12-2011, 09:33 PM   #1535
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Btw, Autumn if you want to vote Thomkal I'll go with you to save my hide. It'll mean a tie though, so we'd have to hope for movement from others to make it work.
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Old 08-12-2011, 09:33 PM   #1536
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I'm willing to give Danny the benefit of the doubt, at least for now. Not quite "trusted", but at least enough to put him into my "likely good" category.

As to why dubb was night killed? I'm guessing they were just seer fishing and got lucky. There is rarely grand conspiracy reasons for night kills, especially so early on.

#576 post danny fake reveal
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Old 08-12-2011, 09:34 PM   #1537
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I guess I'm going thomkal. I don't really have a case, but I can't imagine why telle would say anything about the hammer if a wolf

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Old 08-12-2011, 09:34 PM   #1538
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Yeah and Barkeep have a lovely post somewhere about where every was on the whole Danny reveal thing... and I was FAR from the only one willing to give him the benefit of the doubt at the time.
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Old 08-12-2011, 09:35 PM   #1539
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Telle makes a pretty good point, why would she say anything?

Unvote telle

This is an odd move with the votes so close
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Old 08-12-2011, 09:35 PM   #1540
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Currently I fell more comfortable on Thomkal then Telle or Autumn. I am not sure what to make of the fake hammer real hammer situation and generally I have agreed with everything Autumn has said. That being said if I have to move I will.
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Old 08-12-2011, 09:35 PM   #1541
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Old 08-12-2011, 09:36 PM   #1542
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vote ntndeacon

I'm not convinced that EITHER Chubby or Danny are wolves. So going with the next highest vote getter.

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Old 08-12-2011, 09:36 PM   #1543
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According to my notes, Thomkal and myself are tied up with Autumn 2 votes back.
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Old 08-12-2011, 09:37 PM   #1544
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Btw, just to be open and honest.. I had an item yesterday. Since I had no particular trust for anybody specifically, I let it get reassigned randomly.

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Old 08-12-2011, 09:37 PM   #1545
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This is an odd move with the votes so close

Doesn't make sense to vote her if she seems villager. I don't have a special role, so better me.
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Old 08-12-2011, 09:38 PM   #1546
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But the problem is that lynching Danny or Chubby doesn't answer anything about the other one anyways. So if we lynch one we could end up spending the next day just talking about the other one then. Not that much difference from if we don't lynch either.

#821

ORLY?
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Old 08-12-2011, 09:38 PM   #1547
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#809

Well you gotta admit, your whole "Lathum said he was the Duke" fiasco left you with limited credibility so far as your ability to interpret things, so believing you were a villager didn't necessarily mean that Danny had to be lying about his role. Of course, I was wrong on that.
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Old 08-12-2011, 09:38 PM   #1548
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It was not mistletoe. It was Thor's hammer.

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Old 08-12-2011, 09:39 PM   #1549
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Day 4 Voting as of post 1548:

Telle 6 - Chubby (1481), MrBug708 (1496), Thomkal (1504), EagleFan (1506), Barkeep49 (1512), Lathum (1530)
Thomkal 6 - Narcizo (1349), Zinto (1413), jeheinz72 (1415), Racer (1441), Autumn (1537), Telle (1541)
Autumn 4 - hoopsguy (1395), ntndeacon (1463), mauboy1 (1471), mckerney (1482)
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Old 08-12-2011, 09:40 PM   #1550
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I bet it does. where did you go?
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