Official 2022 College Football Thread

[Edward64]

Looks about right to me.

So if TCU or USC loses, OSU can sneak in.

If both TCU and USC loses, OSU and AL can sneak in.

[Butter]

I basically think Deion went public with Colorado in an attempt to encourage other schools to call him right away if interested.

He's not taking that job

[GrantDawg]

TCU might stay in,,even with a loss. Or OSU might jump them, but is very unlikely Alabama can. I think the rankings now have Alabama almost certainly out.

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[JonInMiddleGA]

Originally Posted by GrantDawg

TCU might stay in,,even with a loss. Or OSU might jump them, but is very unlikely Alabama can. I think the rankings now have Alabama almost certainly out.

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Their only shot, I believe, is if K-State just plows the field with TCU and USC loses. THAT might open the door for a second team outside the current top 4.

A close loss for TCU and I imagine they stay in at #4

[GrantDawg]

Interestingly if there was a 12 team playoff this year, not one non-P5 team would make it.

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[Brian Swartz]

Agree. I think the top three are what they are barring a blowout loss for TCU, which ... they're the kind of team that I have a hard time seeing that happen to. USC if they win, OSU otherwise for the final spot, top three almost certainly staying.

I also agree with the geographical balance that has been mentioned.

[Brian Swartz]

Originally Posted by GrantDawg

Interestingly if there was a 12 team playoff this year, not one non-P5 team would make it.

The way I read the plan, one of them is guaranteed. Top four conf. champions get byes, six at-large bids, and next two conf. champs, one of which wouldn't be a P5. And then what happens if a team like Purdue wins a conf. championship, could be multiple others in.

[JonInMiddleGA]

Originally Posted by Brian Swartz

The way I read the plan, one of them is guaranteed. Top four conf. champions get byes, six at-large bids, and next two conf. champs, one of which wouldn't be a P5. And then what happens if a team like Purdue wins a conf. championship, could be multiple others in.

If Purdue won, that would just knock out Utah (the lowest ranked at-large team).

[RainMaker]

I know this is not how it works but I think the 4 teams at the top should make it regardless of the conference title game. Just seems weird to penalize a team for making their conference title game and give a boost to those who couldn't.

[JonInMiddleGA]

Originally Posted by RainMaker

I know this is not how it works but I think the 4 teams at the top should make it regardless of the conference title game. Just seems weird to penalize a team for making their conference title game and give a boost to those who couldn't.

It's part of their body of work though, you can't exactly ignore it realistically.

[RainMaker]

Originally Posted by JonInMiddleGA

It's part of their body of work though, you can't exactly ignore it realistically.

But their body of work has an extra game that can only hurt them. Like I understand why it's done but it seems weird that making your conference championship is a punishment.

[JonInMiddleGA]

Originally Posted by RainMaker

But their body of work has an extra game that can only hurt them. Like I understand why it's done but it seems weird that making your conference championship is a punishment.

Greed sometimes carries a price that isn't measured in dollars.

[Atocep]

Yeah the conference title games started because of greed with an understanding that it could screw a team out of a national championship chance. If conferences want to continue using that extra game for nothing but added money I have no problem with a team being punished for the game if they lose.

[Brian Swartz]

There have also been many situations where it helps a team if they win. It just didn't work out that way this year in terms of the playoffs.

[BishopMVP]

Originally Posted by Brian Swartz

There have also been many situations where it helps a team if they win. It just didn't work out that way this year in terms of the playoffs.

Yep. If Clemson & LSU hadn't choked vs weaker teams they're possibly playing for their spot in the playoff this week. (Or at least a spot in line ahead of Alabama)

[Solecismic]

It seems they want people to buy into the same mindset as they have for the 68-team basketball tournament. Conference tournaments are their own entity, and offer seeding bonuses to the top conferences and entry to the weaker conferences.

But with the football format, since losses are major and possibly disqualifying events, like Tic Tac Toe and Global Thermonuclear War, it is often best simply not to play the game.

Hopefully, Michigan can avoid the let-down. Purdue has a good offense, and the one thing Michigan doesn't do well is pressure the quarterback. I think they're in regardless, like Georgia and TCU.

It is time to eliminate these games. I'll just reiterate that I'm glad the Big Ten didn't follow the other conferences that removed divisions. Then it would be Michigan/Ohio State again.

[BishopMVP]

Originally Posted by Solecismic

It seems they want people to buy into the same mindset as they have for the 68-team basketball tournament. Conference tournaments are their own entity, and offer seeding bonuses to the top conferences and entry to the weaker conferences.

But with the football format, since losses are major and possibly disqualifying events, like Tic Tac Toe and Global Thermonuclear War, it is often best simply not to play the game.

Nah, people just want to complain about the ones that hurt teams and don't think about the ones that help them. (Or just use recency bias.) They should be net neutral events, though the wildly imbalanced ACC & B1G divisions meant they usually haven't been.

Now, when we go to an expanded tournament and both teams playing are basically guaranteed entry even with a loss? Yeah they gots to go.

[GrantDawg]

People do still care about conference championships.

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[Ksyrup]

Jalen Kitna being arrested for child porn doesn't shock me given how over the top religious his dad is.

[Ksyrup]

Interesting police blotter today.

#BREAKING: Per Lincoln Police:
Robert ‘Mickey’ Joseph, age 54 of Lincoln, was arrested at a separate location, for Strangulation
and 3rd Degree Domestic Assault. He was lodged in the Lancaster County Jail.

— Sarah Fili KETV (@SarahFiliTV) November 30, 2022

[Brian Swartz]

Interesting factoid on the value of pre-season rankings: 15 of the current CFP Top 25 were not ranked when the season began. There's always some of course, but over half?

[Ghost Econ]

I guess Nebraska really dodged a bullet on that one.

[GrantDawg]

12 team playoff is official for 2024. Next year will end the 4 team playoff era.

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[NobodyHere]

Originally Posted by GrantDawg

12 team playoff is official for 2024. Next year will end the 4 team playoff era.

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I can't wait for all the arguments of how the 13th ranked team got screwed by being left out.

[GrantDawg]

I'm not going to care. The last four in a 12 team playoff would probably be interchangeable.

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[Edward64]

You would care if the Dawgs (or Hogs) ended being 13th

[Lathum]

If you go by the College Football ranking Washington would be 12. Whew!!

I am assuming top 4 teams get a bye?

If that was the case base of the current CFP rankings the matchups would be

tOSU-UW ( interestingly good shot thats the Rose Bowl this year)
Alabama- Utah
Tenn-Kstate
Penn St- Clemson

The 12 team field would be 3 SEC, 3 PAC12, 3 Big 10, 2 Big 12, 1 ACC. Would like to see some rule where the highest ranked non P5 team gets in (of course that would bounce UW so maybe not!!). That would be Tulane

Just looking over the poll, PAC 12 has the same amount of teams in the top 25 as SEC and more in the top 20. Dare say the conference of champions is back!

[henry296]

Originally Posted by Lathum

Would like to see some rule where the highest ranked non P5 team gets in (of course that would bounce UW so maybe not!!). That would be Tulane

It is a rule from what I've read. 6 highest rated conference champions get. Also read that you must be a conference champ to get a top 4 seed.

[Ksyrup]

I don't know where it ended up, but I thought to get the auto non-P5 slot, the original proposal was that team had to be ranked in the top 15 or 16...? So my thought is that unless you have a Boise State/UCF/Cincinnati situation, you're going to see the non-P5s ranked in the 15-20 range so they can be dropped out accordingly if the "eye test" doesn't work in their favor, or there's an unusually strong group of 2-3 loss P5 teams who are more deserving.

[sterlingice]

College Football Playoff makes official 12-team expansion beginning in 2024-25 season - CBSSports.com

The expanded 12-team bracket will feature the six highest-ranked conference champions as automatic qualifiers along with the next six highest-ranked teams. The four highest-ranked conference champions will be seeded 1-4 with first-round byes. The next four highest-ranked teams (Nos. 5-8) will host the first-round matchups.

SI

[GrantDawg]

Originally Posted by Edward64

You would care if the Dawgs (or Hogs) ended being 13th

Not really. If they are three losses into a season? Eh.

I have always thought 8 was the better number. It is hard for me to believe a really deserving team would be ranked lower than that. Of course, when the first playoff champion is a 12 seed, I will eat my hat.

[Ksyrup]

I don't mind 12. It's a tournament - "deserving" in that context just means having earned a top 12 spot. It doesn't mean they should (or can) win 3 games to win the championship.

That's been the problem with the CFP, IMO. Once you expanded beyond simply picking the 2 teams to play for the title, it should have been just about who earned a spot in the tournament, not this twisted logic of who looks like a title winner. Alabama always looks like a title winner, even when they lose 1 or 2 games a year. That's not the purpose of the exercise (or shouldn't be).

[GrantDawg]

Originally Posted by Ksyrup

I don't mind 12. It's a tournament - "deserving" in that context just means having earned a top 12 spot. It doesn't mean they should (or can) win 3 games to win the championship.

That's been the problem with the CFP, IMO. Once you expanded beyond simply picking the 2 teams to play for the title, it should have been just about who earned a spot in the tournament, not this twisted logic of who looks like a title winner. Alabama always looks like a title winner, even when they lose 1 or 2 games a year. That's not the purpose of the exercise (or shouldn't be).

No, I get that. It is the same reason you have 64, or 68, or 124 or whatever it is for college basketball. I just feel like 8 really represented better quality over a 12 team system. The main two benefits of 12 is that more teams are playing for something late in the season, and the bye rewards the best teams. I would prefer better quality match-ups, and a simple 4 games, two games, one game. Just a preference.

[Ksyrup]

FAU with a nice hire of Tom Herman. Definitely an upgrade...

[BishopMVP]

Interested to see if Swarbrick pushes back at all against this proposal, whether to get ND measured vs the G5 conference champs or an outside shot at a top 4 bid in a year like 2018. Though overall I don't mind it, not hard to be one of the top 6 at-large teams in a good year.

[bob]

He was part of the group that came up with this proposal.

As long as conference championship games are played/required, ND just gets an early bye week.

[tarcone]

Cade McNamara to Iowa

This is most excited Ive been over Iowa footbvall in December since 2015

Go Hawks!

Now a new OC

[INDalltheway]

Originally Posted by tarcone

Cade McNamara to Iowa

This is most excited Ive been over Iowa footbvall in December since 2015

Go Hawks!

Now a new OC

Top-tier game manager. Perfect QB for the Hawkeyes

[Brian Swartz]

There might not be a single defensive stop in the Pac-12 championship.

[Edward64]

Go Utes!

(No real vested interest but it'll stir up the pot)

[Lathum]

Originally Posted by Edward64

Go Utes!

(No real vested interest but it'll stir up the pot)

Suck a dick!!!

[Brian Swartz]

So ... I was wrong. A quality football game has broken out, against all early appearances. Something Utah has had for many years is a serious case of competitiveness. If I had to pick a west-coast team to root for (no thanks), they'd probably be it.

[GrantDawg]

Is that the USC motto?

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[bronconick]

There's that Lincoln Riley defense

[GrantDawg]

USC is in big trouble. With Williams injured, they need a big break.

[Ksyrup]

Williams is walking like Fred Sanford.

[GrantDawg]

Originally Posted by Ksyrup

Williams is walking like Fred Sanford.

And yet he put together that drive. Is the offensive linemen going to be carrying him into position like Bryron Leftwich before the end of this game?

[GrantDawg]

Sources: Deion Sanders and his associates have spent the week recruiting on-field staff, support staff and transfer portal players to Colorado. While a deal isn’t finalized, Sanders has been preparing for his exit to Boulder for after the SWAC title game. https://t.co/qDxbratFZq

— Pete Thamel (@PeteThamel) December 3, 2022

[GrantDawg]

Ouch.

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[Ksyrup]

Lincoln Riley brought so many things with him to USC that he forgot he packed OU's D.