WW CLVIII - The Princess Bride Returns (Game Over: Wolves Win!!!) - Page 31

mauchow · 04-03-2013, 09:18 AM

And girl

fontisian · 04-03-2013, 09:23 AM

Thank you mau. You don't look like you were on the wrong end of a fight to the pain.

fontisian · 04-03-2013, 09:30 AM

Can anyone invite us to JAG's discussion forum?

Autumn · 04-03-2013, 09:47 AM

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Originally Posted by PackerFanatic

And I think I have played a duke one other time (although this was a bit of a different twist on it, but still) and I still have not figured out the best way to use this role. I always want to wait it out to see if I can actually find someone to use it on (especially in this case) and I just feel like I am wasting it.

I think this is the best way to play duke. Hold it as long as you can. When the game is smaller the wolves have to worry about a duking, and it forces them to be even more circumspect in their moves. they never know when they might be randomly exposed. I know last game I was a wolf I was worrying about the duke towards the end, and it changed the way I played. that's much more useful than just a random switchup.

Narcizo · 04-03-2013, 09:53 AM

Dunno - would have kind of helped a couple of days if you'd revealed and got in the COT but otherwise I think the duke is worth holding onto unless you use it in self-defence.

Narcizo · 04-03-2013, 09:54 AM

In fact being the duke allows you to play a lot more overtly - keep on everyone's radar so you don't get night-killed but don't have to worry about being lynched.

fontisian · 04-03-2013, 09:55 AM

The duking ability and the wheelbarrow were really the only things that stopped us from declaring victory early yesterday. I think you played it well.

PackerFanatic · 04-03-2013, 10:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Narcizo

Dunno - would have kind of helped a couple of days if you'd revealed and got in the COT but otherwise I think the duke is worth holding onto unless you use it in self-defence.

I never really felt in danger - and I didn't really want to come out because I knew I would be toast as soon as I did, and I still had no concrete evidence. Had to keep the wolves on their toes...just kept them there too long.

HOWEVER - I did get a minor win for surviving longer than the Count. Hooray!

mauchow · 04-03-2013, 10:18 AM

You were definitely on our radar not to kill. We could not nk our rous.

We hit jackpot that night we killed chief. Rous made his kill and we never did get the cojvert but we had a 50/50 shot for it. Had we gotten it this game would have been over on Friday most likely. That would have been horrendous luck for the village.

We were pretty bummed the whole day as jackal was going down but as soon as results hit we were hooting n cheering for the rous!!

fontisian · 04-03-2013, 10:30 AM

I did however have you in as a conditional roleblock.

mauchow · 04-03-2013, 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Narcizo

Ahahahahaha! The reason I thought she was the brutal was because you voted for her.

Still, if Katy and Lathum can't even turn up to vote then we deserve to lose.

Reverse psychology baby. I was trying to find ways to set up like a triple reverse psychology.

We entertai ed the idea of lathum revealing as inigo but decided that might be too obvious to get him lynched..then I thought maybe him revealing as max and everyone calls him out on it and we would figure him for the rous...

So many ideas floated around. And in the end we did nothing...and it worked.

mauchow · 04-03-2013, 11:13 AM

Jag, what caused you to use your protection so early on?

Zinto · 04-03-2013, 11:17 AM

I thought Font was the count. I had scanned both Mau and Font as wolves and figured that Mau kept pushing Font because she was the brutal. Then I assumed that Lathum was a villager because of the fact that Mau and Font had both their votes on him.

Zinto · 04-03-2013, 12:56 PM

Thanks EF for running the game and sorry that yesterday did not go so well for you!

EagleFan · 04-03-2013, 02:03 PM

Couple quick notes:

I couldn't believe it when the wolves were already talking Autumn/JAG on day 1. Slap to the head at that point as there goes DPR and Westley. They kept talking themselves out of JAG the first couple days it seemed.

Then they nail Chief and the village almost lynches the bodyguard forcing a reveal. That allowed font to "scan" the bodyguard which rendered his powers useless the following day. She would have never known if she ever actually hit a role or if she stole any powers.

I think it was Day 2 someone mentioned killing Z. That would have been an interesting turn of events.

They were terrified of JAG's ability once he revealed. Problem is that he already used it and was a sitting duck. Enter Z and he made that problem go away.

I though mau was going to single handedly lose the game for the wolves early yesterday. He had stolen Narc's vote yesterday and was lobbying for them to all come forward and get the ROUS to vote with them as they had a 5-4 edge with the stolen vote. Problem is, PF could have duked to one of them and it would have been a quick trip to a village victory at that point. They almost blew up my inbox as I had 50+ messages waiting for me when I signed on.

I am curious what happened with Katy and the cloak.

EagleFan · 04-03-2013, 02:05 PM

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Originally Posted by fontisian

The duking ability and the wheelbarrow were really the only things that stopped us from declaring victory early yesterday. I think you played it well.

mau was so pumped about declaring victory after the Monday results that I thought he was going to out you guys in thread before realizing the duke was still potentially out there.

PackerFanatic · 04-03-2013, 02:06 PM

So Katy had the cloak the whole time and didn't use it?

EagleFan · 04-03-2013, 02:07 PM

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Originally Posted by PackerFanatic

So Katy had the cloak the whole time and didn't use it?

Yes

EagleFan · 04-03-2013, 02:09 PM

Oh, I think I need to add a rule to the PM's next time to only include one PM with a heading of night kill for the wolves. It was a pain trying to read back through to find the actual PM that contained the kill.

JAG · 04-03-2013, 02:11 PM

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Originally Posted by mauchow

Jag, what caused you to use your protection so early on?

Never having played as seer before (regularish seer), I didn't prepare myself for possible circumstances like Jackal pulling his fake reveal as he did. I didn't really know whether I should call him out right away or stay concealed. First thing I did was change my scan I put down earlier in the day from Lathum to Katy (she had a late vote on DT, I think Lathum had a vote on Jackal there), pretty much things happened as I claimed the following day. I decided to blow my protection because I was afraid I could be targeted since Jackal 'cleared' me and that if I chose to reveal the next day you would probably think I still had my protection. I forgot about the ROUS and the possibility for a double attack though.

Oh well, win some lose some. Good job wolves, thanks for the game EF.

fontisian · 04-03-2013, 02:14 PM

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Originally Posted by PackerFanatic

So Katy had the cloak the whole time and didn't use it?

Ehehehe

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Originally Posted by EagleFan

I though mau was going to single handedly lose the game for the wolves early yesterday. He had stolen Narc's vote yesterday and was lobbying for them to all come forward and get the ROUS to vote with them as they had a 5-4 edge with the stolen vote. Problem is, PF could have duked to one of them and it would have been a quick trip to a village victory at that point. They almost blew up my inbox as I had 50+ messages waiting for me when I signed on.

I came online, saw mau was about to reveal and flipped out irl.

Thanks for the game EF.

JAG · 04-03-2013, 02:16 PM

EF, would I have been immune to iocane powder as in the movie? I didn't think about that the whole day until about five minutes after the deadline when it was used.

JAG · 04-03-2013, 02:18 PM

Out of game forum opened up to all now also.

Zinto · 04-03-2013, 02:21 PM

I had to take my shot at Jag when I did. EF did tell me that I would lose my night kill if it was blocked but I got a major victory if I killed Wesley or the Princess so I took my shot and hoped that Jag was not the cunning who was doing a super bluff.

JAG · 04-03-2013, 02:23 PM

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Originally Posted by EagleFan

I am curious what happened with Katy and the cloak.

That's a bummer. My scan choice that evening was mau.

fontisian · 04-03-2013, 02:25 PM

What happened to the wheelbarrow after brit's death?

JAG · 04-03-2013, 02:29 PM

4 in a row the wolves have won for those keeping track at home (and should've been 5.

Lathum · 04-03-2013, 02:54 PM

link to JAGs discussion?

fontisian · 04-03-2013, 02:55 PM

Princess Bride Returns

Danny · 04-03-2013, 04:18 PM

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Originally Posted by JAG

4 in a row the wolves have won for those keeping track at home (and should've been 5.

I die and it all goes to hell for the village lol

Danny · 04-03-2013, 04:19 PM

FWIW, I thought it pretty obvious Zinto, Lathum and Font were wolves, Mau actually was the one I wasnt sure about.

fontisian · 04-03-2013, 04:24 PM

Hey Coffee, don't you owe us cheese?

Coffee Warlord · 04-03-2013, 04:29 PM

No, 'cause you bastards didn't convert me like I wanted you to.

Coffee Warlord · 04-03-2013, 04:30 PM

Been vanilla 3 games in a row. I'm sick of it.

Wait. 2. I was the law that one game.

fontisian · 04-03-2013, 04:37 PM

Psh, you kept your post count lead, didn't you?

Coffee Warlord · 04-03-2013, 04:43 PM

I did. And it was glorious.

Danny · 04-03-2013, 05:47 PM

Forgot to say it, but well done wolves

.

I do have to say, Lathum's new strategy of playing under the radar as a wolf is going to make it much more likely I vote him early in games.

Mau wanting to reveal is not surprising. He is a good wolf, but he definitely comes up with some crazy stuff sometimes lol.

mauchow · 04-03-2013, 05:52 PM

When we knew it was 5-4 I knew we could control the votes so in my mind the game was over so but then I they reminded me of duke. It may not have changed anything as it would have just been a screwy mind game where PF still chooses to duke to lathum and still end game.

Danny · 04-03-2013, 06:14 PM

Mau, you are playing much more even keel as a wolf now. You used to get pretty easily flustered when you had someone (often me) put pressure on you as a wolf, but you have improved a great deal with that.

mauchow · 04-03-2013, 06:29 PM

Yeah I pretty much just not even talk or respond when my name comes up..unless its an easy defend. That's all it was this game was bouncing away little things.

Danny · 04-03-2013, 06:38 PM

So Katy has the cloak all game? That really could have changed things is she had given it to Jag and Jag scanned Mau like he had planned. Whole different game from there.

PackerFanatic · 04-03-2013, 09:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Danny

So Katy has the cloak all game? That really could have changed things is she had given it to Jag and Jag scanned Mau like he had planned. Whole different game from there.

Definitely.

Zinto · 04-03-2013, 09:40 PM

Yep if she has used the cloak then I would have lost my night kill ability.

Zinto · 04-03-2013, 09:41 PM

And I am pretty sure Font and I get found out pretty soon after Mau, which means it would all be up to Lathum!

britrock88 · 04-04-2013, 12:44 AM

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Originally Posted by fontisian

What happened to the wheelbarrow after brit's death?

I put in an order to pass it to Julio. Don't know if that went through because I don't know the order of action processing.

The Jackal · 04-04-2013, 07:29 AM

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Originally Posted by mauchow

And girl

and girl!

Autumn · 04-04-2013, 09:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Zinto

which means it would all be up to Lathum!

So you're saying the wolves would have won anyway.

Lathum · 04-04-2013, 12:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Autumn

So you're saying the wolves would have won anyway.

amazing how far I can go when you die early

04-03-2013, 02:03 PM	#1515
EagleFan Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Mays Landing, NJ USA	Couple quick notes: I couldn't believe it when the wolves were already talking Autumn/JAG on day 1. Slap to the head at that point as there goes DPR and Westley. They kept talking themselves out of JAG the first couple days it seemed. Then they nail Chief and the village almost lynches the bodyguard forcing a reveal. That allowed font to "scan" the bodyguard which rendered his powers useless the following day. She would have never known if she ever actually hit a role or if she stole any powers. I think it was Day 2 someone mentioned killing Z. That would have been an interesting turn of events. They were terrified of JAG's ability once he revealed. Problem is that he already used it and was a sitting duck. Enter Z and he made that problem go away. I though mau was going to single handedly lose the game for the wolves early yesterday. He had stolen Narc's vote yesterday and was lobbying for them to all come forward and get the ROUS to vote with them as they had a 5-4 edge with the stolen vote. Problem is, PF could have duked to one of them and it would have been a quick trip to a village victory at that point. They almost blew up my inbox as I had 50+ messages waiting for me when I signed on. I am curious what happened with Katy and the cloak. __________________ The EagleFan YouTube Channel - Reactions Soarin' & Scratchin' YouTube Channel - We react to music, videos, TV, we talk, we are planning some field trips Soarin' & Soothin' - Meditation, Relaxation, and Sleep Aid; mental health is important

04-03-2013, 02:06 PM	#1517
PackerFanatic Pro Starter Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Appleton, WI	So Katy had the cloak the whole time and didn't use it? __________________ Commissioner of the RNFL

04-03-2013, 02:09 PM	#1519
EagleFan Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Mays Landing, NJ USA	Oh, I think I need to add a rule to the PM's next time to only include one PM with a heading of night kill for the wolves. It was a pain trying to read back through to find the actual PM that contained the kill. __________________ The EagleFan YouTube Channel - Reactions Soarin' & Scratchin' YouTube Channel - We react to music, videos, TV, we talk, we are planning some field trips Soarin' & Soothin' - Meditation, Relaxation, and Sleep Aid; mental health is important

04-03-2013, 04:30 PM	#1534
Coffee Warlord Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Colorado Springs	Been vanilla 3 games in a row. I'm sick of it. Wait. 2. I was the law that one game. Last edited by Coffee Warlord : 04-03-2013 at 04:31 PM.

04-03-2013, 09:18 AM	#1501
mauchow Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Murfreesboro, TN	And girl

04-03-2013, 09:23 AM	#1502
fontisian College Prospect Join Date: Jan 2013	Thank you mau. You don't look like you were on the wrong end of a fight to the pain.

04-03-2013, 09:30 AM	#1503
fontisian College Prospect Join Date: Jan 2013	Can anyone invite us to JAG's discussion forum?

04-03-2013, 09:53 AM	#1505
Narcizo Pro Rookie Join Date: Jan 2006	Dunno - would have kind of helped a couple of days if you'd revealed and got in the COT but otherwise I think the duke is worth holding onto unless you use it in self-defence.

04-03-2013, 09:54 AM	#1506
Narcizo Pro Rookie Join Date: Jan 2006	In fact being the duke allows you to play a lot more overtly - keep on everyone's radar so you don't get night-killed but don't have to worry about being lynched.

04-03-2013, 09:55 AM	#1507
fontisian College Prospect Join Date: Jan 2013	The duking ability and the wheelbarrow were really the only things that stopped us from declaring victory early yesterday. I think you played it well.

04-03-2013, 10:18 AM	#1509
mauchow Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Murfreesboro, TN	You were definitely on our radar not to kill. We could not nk our rous. We hit jackpot that night we killed chief. Rous made his kill and we never did get the cojvert but we had a 50/50 shot for it. Had we gotten it this game would have been over on Friday most likely. That would have been horrendous luck for the village. We were pretty bummed the whole day as jackal was going down but as soon as results hit we were hooting n cheering for the rous!!

04-03-2013, 10:30 AM	#1510
fontisian College Prospect Join Date: Jan 2013	I did however have you in as a conditional roleblock.

04-03-2013, 11:13 AM	#1512
mauchow Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Murfreesboro, TN	Jag, what caused you to use your protection so early on?

04-03-2013, 11:17 AM	#1513
Zinto College Starter Join Date: Jan 2011	I thought Font was the count. I had scanned both Mau and Font as wolves and figured that Mau kept pushing Font because she was the brutal. Then I assumed that Lathum was a villager because of the fact that Mau and Font had both their votes on him.

04-03-2013, 12:56 PM	#1514
Zinto College Starter Join Date: Jan 2011	Thanks EF for running the game and sorry that yesterday did not go so well for you!

04-03-2013, 02:16 PM	#1522
JAG Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: St. Paul, MN	EF, would I have been immune to iocane powder as in the movie? I didn't think about that the whole day until about five minutes after the deadline when it was used.

04-03-2013, 02:18 PM	#1523
JAG Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: St. Paul, MN	Out of game forum opened up to all now also.

04-03-2013, 02:21 PM	#1524
Zinto College Starter Join Date: Jan 2011	I had to take my shot at Jag when I did. EF did tell me that I would lose my night kill if it was blocked but I got a major victory if I killed Wesley or the Princess so I took my shot and hoped that Jag was not the cunning who was doing a super bluff.

04-03-2013, 02:25 PM	#1526
fontisian College Prospect Join Date: Jan 2013	What happened to the wheelbarrow after brit's death?

04-03-2013, 02:29 PM	#1527
JAG Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: St. Paul, MN	4 in a row the wolves have won for those keeping track at home (and should've been 5.

04-03-2013, 02:54 PM	#1528
Lathum Favored Bitch #1 Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: homeless in NJ	link to JAGs discussion?

04-03-2013, 02:55 PM	#1529
fontisian College Prospect Join Date: Jan 2013	Princess Bride Returns

04-03-2013, 04:19 PM	#1531
Danny Head Coach Join Date: Jul 2001	FWIW, I thought it pretty obvious Zinto, Lathum and Font were wolves, Mau actually was the one I wasnt sure about.

04-03-2013, 04:24 PM	#1532
fontisian College Prospect Join Date: Jan 2013	Hey Coffee, don't you owe us cheese?

04-03-2013, 04:29 PM	#1533
Coffee Warlord Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Colorado Springs	No, 'cause you bastards didn't convert me like I wanted you to.

04-03-2013, 04:37 PM	#1535
fontisian College Prospect Join Date: Jan 2013	Psh, you kept your post count lead, didn't you?

04-03-2013, 04:43 PM	#1536
Coffee Warlord Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Colorado Springs	I did. And it was glorious.

04-03-2013, 05:47 PM	#1537
Danny Head Coach Join Date: Jul 2001	Forgot to say it, but well done wolves . I do have to say, Lathum's new strategy of playing under the radar as a wolf is going to make it much more likely I vote him early in games. Mau wanting to reveal is not surprising. He is a good wolf, but he definitely comes up with some crazy stuff sometimes lol.

04-03-2013, 05:52 PM	#1538
mauchow Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Murfreesboro, TN	When we knew it was 5-4 I knew we could control the votes so in my mind the game was over so but then I they reminded me of duke. It may not have changed anything as it would have just been a screwy mind game where PF still chooses to duke to lathum and still end game.

04-03-2013, 06:14 PM	#1539
Danny Head Coach Join Date: Jul 2001	Mau, you are playing much more even keel as a wolf now. You used to get pretty easily flustered when you had someone (often me) put pressure on you as a wolf, but you have improved a great deal with that.

04-03-2013, 06:29 PM	#1540
mauchow Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Murfreesboro, TN	Yeah I pretty much just not even talk or respond when my name comes up..unless its an easy defend. That's all it was this game was bouncing away little things.

04-03-2013, 06:38 PM	#1541
Danny Head Coach Join Date: Jul 2001	So Katy has the cloak all game? That really could have changed things is she had given it to Jag and Jag scanned Mau like he had planned. Whole different game from there.

04-03-2013, 09:40 PM	#1543
Zinto College Starter Join Date: Jan 2011	Yep if she has used the cloak then I would have lost my night kill ability.

04-03-2013, 09:41 PM	#1544
Zinto College Starter Join Date: Jan 2011	And I am pretty sure Font and I get found out pretty soon after Mau, which means it would all be up to Lathum!