NFL 2019 Season Thread - Page 31

JonInMiddleGA · 01-06-2020, 02:59 PM

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Originally Posted by spleen1015

By decline, do you mean less are being made or the ones being made aren't any good? Or both?

Probably both now that you say it, but I was referring to the decline of their percentage of total television.

1999 was topped by Who Wants To Be A Millionaire but otherwise most of the non-sports entries were standard scripted series.

Also, as far as streaming goes, that also fits in with the same fragmentation that cable created before. It just makes it that much harder for anything to get any sort of critical mass.

Honolulu_Blue · 01-06-2020, 04:33 PM

Tua has declared!

Time for the Lions to wheel and deal and trade out of the 3rd overall spot! Then again, I am sure Quinntricia would screw it up somehow. I hate that I hate the Lions GM and head coach, but I do. They are awful.

Izulde · 01-06-2020, 04:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Honolulu_Blue

Tua has declared!

Time for the Lions to wheel and deal and trade out of the 3rd overall spot! Then again, I am sure Quinntricia would screw it up somehow. I hate that I hate the Lions GM and head coach, but I do. They are awful.

Trading up to the 3 spot for Tua would be dumb. He always seemed overrated to me and now has a worrying injury history.

sabotai · 01-07-2020, 12:14 PM

Matt Rhule to Carolina, and the Giants are hiring Joe Judge, NE Special Teams Coordinator, as their next HC.

Giants subreddit is acting like the sky is falling and they're the new Browns, but I don't hate the hire as I don't know much about him.

Honestly, I was very worried about Matt Rhule, being as he's spent just about his entire coaching career in college. And Carolina just gave him a 7-year, $60M deal.

bhlloy · 01-07-2020, 12:17 PM

I think I'd much prefer a college HC over an NFL special teams co-ordinator? I don't know anything about him either, but if we're knocking experience I know which one I'd be infinitely more concerned about.

Lathum · 01-07-2020, 02:10 PM

As a giants fan I am skeptical of the hire at best. He was also the Pats WR coach and as a unit they were awful. It screams of him being hired just because he comes from the pats, but BBs coaching tree isn’t all that impressive.

Honolulu_Blue · 01-07-2020, 03:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Lathum

As a giants fan I am skeptical of the hire at best. He was also the Pats WR coach and as a unit they were awful. It screams of him being hired just because he comes from the pats, but BBs coaching tree isn’t all that impressive.

It certainly is not!

Arles · 01-07-2020, 04:06 PM

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Originally Posted by bhlloy

I think I'd much prefer a college HC over an NFL special teams co-ordinator? I don't know anything about him either, but if we're knocking experience I know which one I'd be infinitely more concerned about.

I'm not sure about that. I think I'd prefer the coach have been an NFL OC/DC - but Special Teams (a la John Harbaugh) is OK as well. I think having experience running a unit of professional players is very helpful when becoming a head coach. We have examples of both types from this year with Kingsbury in AZ and LaFleur in GB. Given I live in AZ, I've followed both pretty close. I think Kliff could end up being a pretty good coach, but he wasn't nearly as buttoned up as LaFleur in running a program. College is such a different animal with practice restrictions, younger players, simpler schemes and not really having to deal with players making more than you (atleast above the table

). Rhule seems like a pretty smart guy, but I'm not sure he's prepared to run a locker room of 53 professionals. Now, if you were a coordinator in the NFL and then become a college coach - I think that's different. But Rhule has been in college nearly his whole coaching career.

JonInMiddleGA · 01-07-2020, 04:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Arles

I'm not sure about that. I think I'd prefer the coach have been an NFL OC/DC - but Special Teams (a la John Harbaugh) is OK as well.

Put me in this camp as well, fwiw.

CU Tiger · 01-07-2020, 05:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Arles

I'm not sure about that. I think I'd prefer the coach have been an NFL OC/DC - but Special Teams (a la John Harbaugh) is OK as well. I think having experience running a unit of professional players is very helpful when becoming a head coach. We have examples of both types from this year with Kingsbury in AZ and LaFleur in GB. Given I live in AZ, I've followed both pretty close. I think Kliff could end up being a pretty good coach, but he wasn't nearly as buttoned up as LaFleur in running a program. College is such a different animal with practice restrictions, younger players, simpler schemes and not really having to deal with players making more than you (atleast above the table

). Rhule seems like a pretty smart guy, but I'm not sure he's prepared to run a locker room of 53 professionals. Now, if you were a coordinator in the NFL and then become a college coach - I think that's different. But Rhule has been in college nearly his whole coaching career.

To be fair, Kliff was a FAILED college coach as well. At least Rhule won at the college level at multiple stops.

But I agree I think NFL experience is a must in today's NFL.

Atocep · 01-07-2020, 05:58 PM

I think the NFL does a terrible job of hiring by using success as a coordinator to narrow down coaching candidates. The skills needed to be a successful head coach don't match up very much with what's needed to be a successful coordinator. Organization, Motivation, talent evaluation, and communication are the top skills for head coaches while Xs and Os tend to top everything else as a coordinator.

Judge was very high on WVU's list last year and after Holgorsen the WVU athletic department was strongly looking for an improvement in the Organization, motivation, and communication areas.

The thing I like about Rhule is he's one of the few top college candidates that really isn't married to a particular system. His success has been based more on the skills listed above more than having a great system or superior talent.

Both are leaps of faith in different ways, but I'd rather see my team hire one of these guys than jumping back into the cycle of retreads.

RainMaker · 01-07-2020, 06:02 PM

Rhule has a pretty nice resume. Takes terrible teams and turns them around. It's not a recruiting thing either. Like that Baylor team this year was starting most of the guys who were on their 1-11 squad.

bhlloy · 01-07-2020, 07:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Arles

I'm not sure about that. I think I'd prefer the coach have been an NFL OC/DC - but Special Teams (a la John Harbaugh) is OK as well. I think having experience running a unit of professional players is very helpful when becoming a head coach.

I think this is a bit of a disingenuous comparison, to be honest. Harbaugh had 30 years in football including being a position coach multiple times, plus 9 years as the Eagles ST coordinator (and the bloodlines if you think that makes a difference). Ironically he wasn't the ST coordinator when he got hired as the Ravens HC, as he thought he'd never get a head coaching job that way.

Compared to a guy who has 4 years as a ST coordinator, assistant jobs before that and a year as a position coach (dual responsibility, but still) for the unit that is widely being blamed for the Pats being out of the playoffs? Yeah, I don't really see it. I'd definitely take Rhule every day of the week, given overall experience and the job he's done two tough places as an HC, even if it is in college.

Carman Bulldog · 01-07-2020, 10:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Atocep

I think the NFL does a terrible job of hiring by using success as a coordinator to narrow down coaching candidates. The skills needed to be a successful head coach don't match up very much with what's needed to be a successful coordinator. Organization, Motivation, talent evaluation, and communication are the top skills for head coaches while Xs and Os tend to top everything else as a coordinator.

Completely agree with this. I'm dumbfounded that NFL teams continue to fixate on this concept that good coordinator equates to good head coaching candidate.

stevew · 01-08-2020, 12:40 AM

The best thing about the majority of these coaching hires is that we will have a firm answer as to whether they were a mistake within 3 years.

stevew · 01-08-2020, 12:50 AM

Seems like Carolina should move up to #3 and take Tua or Herbert I’d think. Or at least trade up to #32 and grab whatever QB is left(Eason, Fromm,etc).

Honolulu_Blue · 01-08-2020, 11:14 AM

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Originally Posted by stevew

Seems like Carolina should move up to #3 and take Tua or Herbert I’d think. Or at least trade up to #32 and grab whatever QB is left(Eason, Fromm,etc).

The Lions need to take Tua or trade down.

QuikSand · 01-08-2020, 12:19 PM

Miami is surely in the mix for Tua, they have been enchanted for quite some time. I'm not sure what fever there will be for him, given his injury, and the way Burrow just stole his spotlight this season.

Carman Bulldog · 01-08-2020, 06:48 PM

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Originally Posted by stevew

The best thing about the majority of these coaching hires is that we will have a firm answer as to whether they were a mistake within 3 years.

But will we? Was Belichick a mistake in Cleveland? After three years?

miami_fan · 01-10-2020, 05:08 PM

Sources - Eagles quarterback Josh McCown played with torn hamstring against Seahawks

AlexB · 01-11-2020, 06:23 PM

That was an impressive drive

Thomkal · 01-11-2020, 09:15 PM

Well don't think many people were predicting Tenn up 14-0 at the half...

Carman Bulldog · 01-11-2020, 09:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Thomkal

Well don't think many people were predicting Tenn up 14-0 at the half...

Ravens would be looking somewhat better if they could manage not to drop wide open passes.

cartman · 01-11-2020, 10:17 PM

Here is Bill Cowher finding out he was selected for the HOF

The newest member of the @ProFootballHOF: Bill Cowher.
Congratulations, @CowherCBS! #PFHOF20 pic.twitter.com/s5f1gXuDfO
— CBS Sports (@CBSSports) January 12, 2020

cuervo72 · 01-11-2020, 10:19 PM

Saw that live. It was a good TV moment.

Carman Bulldog · 01-11-2020, 10:32 PM

I'm really liking Arthur Smith's play calling the past two weeks.

Also, does Lamar Jackson get tagged with the can't win big/playoff/important/etc. games label after last year and this year? And as I write this, I acknowledge there is quite a bit of time left still.

Lathum · 01-11-2020, 10:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Carman Bulldog

I'm really liking Arthur Smith's play calling the past two weeks.

Also, does Lamar Jackson get tagged with the can't win big/playoff/important/etc. games label after last year and this year? And as I write this, I acknowledge there is quite a bit of time left still.

Hard to put this one all on him. Tons of drops, o-line got no push on the 4th down tries, the throw to Andrews was a bit high but he could have caught it. He looks a little off, but the whole team does.

Lathum · 01-11-2020, 10:37 PM

hahahahahahahaha

literally as I type that he throws an all time terrible pass.

JPhillips · 01-11-2020, 10:38 PM

Vrabel is a hell of a coach. Is he the first from the Belichick tree to be great?

Atocep · 01-11-2020, 10:40 PM

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Originally Posted by JPhillips

Vrabel is a hell of a coach. Is he the first from the Belichick tree to be great?

Not really from the Belichick tree is he? Unless you count time as a player.

I'm all in on him as the next big NFL coach after watching the Titans last week and and this week. His teams are prepared and well coached.

bhlloy · 01-11-2020, 10:40 PM

The Ravens are getting absolutely dominated on the line on both sides of the ball. This is nuts.

Carman Bulldog · 01-11-2020, 10:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Lathum

Hard to put this one all on him. Tons of drops, o-line got no push on the 4th down tries, the throw to Andrews was a bit high but he could have caught it. He looks a little off, but the whole team does.

I don't disagree that it shouldn't be put all on him. That being said, it's usually the quarterback that takes the blame, regardless of performance.

Lathum · 01-11-2020, 10:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Carman Bulldog

I don't disagree that it shouldn't be put all on him. That being said, it's usually the quarterback that takes the blame, regardless of performance.

Oh yeah. Ravens twitter is gold right now. People saying they need a different QB and such.

Atocep · 01-11-2020, 10:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Lathum

Oh yeah. Ravens twitter is gold right now. People saying they need a different QB and such.

I'd gladly give them Trubisky plus any other player on the Bears roster in exchange for Jackson.

JPhillips · 01-11-2020, 11:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Atocep

Not really from the Belichick tree is he? Unless you count time as a player.

I'm all in on him as the next big NFL coach after watching the Titans last week and and this week. His teams are prepared and well coached.

My bad. I thought he was a position coach in NE.

Carman Bulldog · 01-11-2020, 11:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Lathum

Oh yeah. Ravens twitter is gold right now. People saying they need a different QB and such.

Let's not forget how the Ravens fans booed him off the field in the playoffs last year.

bhlloy · 01-11-2020, 11:19 PM

His receivers have flat out let him down to be fair. Funny to compare this to all the excuses made for Brady, who at least has Edelman.

Thomkal · 01-11-2020, 11:37 PM

So if I had a vote for GM of the year, it would probably go to the Titans GM who traded for Tannehill. What a rags to riches story for Tannehill.

JPhillips · 01-11-2020, 11:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Thomkal

So if I had a vote for GM of the year, it would probably go to the Titans GM who traded for Tannehill. What a rags to riches story for Tannehill.

And what an indictment of Adam Gase.

JonInMiddleGA · 01-11-2020, 11:41 PM

I wonder ... how many QBs have won 2 playoff games in a row with 160 yards total passing?

bronconick · 01-12-2020, 12:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Honolulu_Blue

The Lions need to take Tua or trade down.

Drafting an often injured QB to replace a QB with a bad back would be a typical Lions move since no Tight Ends are available at 3. Fortunately, Quinn and Patricia got told to win now or else so that won't be happening and the new GM can draft Trevor Lawrence in 2021 after this season's 3-13 or worse.

Carman Bulldog · 01-12-2020, 12:25 AM

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Originally Posted by JonInMiddleGA

I wonder ... how many QBs have won 2 playoff games in a row with 160 yards total passing?

Only a pair of Hall of Famers.

Bob Griese appears to have had 99 total yards passing combined between the 1973 Conference championship and Super Bowl.

Terry Bradshaw wasn’t too far ahead of Tannehill, with 179 yards combined between the 1974 Conference Championship and Super Bowl.

JonInMiddleGA · 01-12-2020, 12:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Carman Bulldog

Only a pair of Hall of Famers.

Bob Griese appears to have had 99 total yards passing combined between the 1973 Conference championship and Super Bowl.

Terry Bradshaw wasn’t too far ahead of Tannehill, with 179 yards combined between the 1974 Conference Championship and Super Bowl.

So, like, 46 years. Daaaaamn.

bhlloy · 01-12-2020, 02:49 AM

The narrative already seems to be putting the blame squarely on Lamar, that's just not the game I watched. I guess it's always going to be shocking when the MVP QB has a below average game in the playoffs and loses, but man. The Ravens just did not show up to play across the board.

Galaril · 01-12-2020, 09:58 AM

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Originally Posted by JonInMiddleGA

I wonder ... how many QBs have won 2 playoff games in a row with 160 yards total passing?

If teams try and all out completely to stop the run Tannehill is quite capable with Brown, Davis,Sharpe and Smith of throwing for 400+ yards . In the end the Titans are that hot team that has a ton of confidence which breeds “momentum”. Also, there opponents are not taking them seriously I think too.

QuikSand · 01-12-2020, 11:11 AM

Baltimore is reeling...

NobodyHere · 01-12-2020, 11:14 AM

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Originally Posted by QuikSand

Baltimore is reeling...

?

QuikSand · 01-12-2020, 11:28 AM

Sorry, I wasn't fully clear. In addition to being the first name of a football team, "Baltimore" also refers to an American city in Maryland. That's my reference above, thread title notwithstanding.

The city, in recent years weighed down by a rampant crime problem, public corruption, and many lingering elements of systemic racism and bias, managed to rally around the football team in a pretty public way. Not as a true substitute for the policy and leadership that might help the City through these difficult times, but as a focus for optimism... a bit like New Orleans and their Saints, post-Katrina.

The Ravens' collapse and elimination has hit the city hard. There were 12 shootings in the city last night, I believe five fatal. I work in Maryland politics, and am already hearing a lot from various non-sports people that the city really "needed" to have something to rally around.

Baltimore is reeling.

BYU 14 · 01-12-2020, 11:29 AM

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Originally Posted by bhlloy

The narrative already seems to be putting the blame squarely on Lamar, that's just not the game I watched. I guess it's always going to be shocking when the MVP QB has a below average game in the playoffs and loses, but man. The Ravens just did not show up to play across the board.

He had shaky moments, but his receivers were horrible, way too many drops and they got owned at the LOS.

NobodyHere · 01-12-2020, 11:33 AM

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Originally Posted by QuikSand

Sorry, I wasn't fully clear. In addition to being the first name of a football team, "Baltimore" also refers to an American city in Maryland. That's my reference above, thread title notwithstanding.

The city, in recent years weighed down by a rampant crime problem, public corruption, and many lingering elements of systemic racism and bias, managed to rally around the football team in a pretty public way. Not as a true substitute for the policy and leadership that might help the City through these difficult times, but as a focus for optimism... a bit like New Orleans and their Saints, post-Katrina.

The Ravens' collapse and elimination has hit the city hard. There were 12 shootings in the city last night, I believe five fatal. I work in Maryland politics, and am already hearing a lot from various non-sports people that the city really "needed" to have something to rally around.

Baltimore is reeling.

Oh, I thought you meant something specific had happen with the team this morning.

01-06-2020, 04:33 PM	#1502
Honolulu_Blue Hockey Boy Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Royal Oak, MI	Tua has declared! Time for the Lions to wheel and deal and trade out of the 3rd overall spot! Then again, I am sure Quinntricia would screw it up somehow. I hate that I hate the Lions GM and head coach, but I do. They are awful. __________________ *Steve Yzerman*: 1,755 points in 1,514 regular season games. 185 points in 196 postseason games. A First-Team All-Star, Conn Smythe Trophy winner, Selke Trophy winner, Masterton Trophy winner, member of the Hockey Hall of Fame, Olympic gold medallist, and a three-time Stanley Cup Champion. Longest serving captain of one team in the history of the NHL (19 seasons).

01-10-2020, 05:08 PM	#1520
miami_fan Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Land O Lakes FL	Sources - Eagles quarterback Josh McCown played with torn hamstring against Seahawks __________________ "The blind soldier fought for me in this war. The least I can do now is fight for him. I have eyes. He hasn’t. I have a voice on the radio, he hasn’t. I was born a white man. And until a colored man is a full citizen, like me, I haven’t the leisure to enjoy the freedom that colored man risked his life to maintain for me. I don’t own what I have until he owns an equal share of it. Until somebody beats me and blinds me, I am in his debt."- Orson Welles August 11, 1946

01-11-2020, 06:23 PM	#1521
AlexB Pro Starter Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Newbury, England	That was an impressive drive __________________ 'A song is a beautiful lie', Idlewild, Self Healer. When you're smiling, the whole world smiles with you. Sports!

01-11-2020, 09:15 PM	#1522
Thomkal Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Surfside Beach,SC USA	Well don't think many people were predicting Tenn up 14-0 at the half... __________________ Coastal Carolina Baseball-2016 National Champion! 10/17/20-Coastal Football ranked in Top 25 for first time!

01-11-2020, 10:17 PM	#1524
cartman Death Herald Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Le stelle la notte sono grandi e luminose nel cuore profondo del Texas	Here is Bill Cowher finding out he was selected for the HOF The newest member of the @ProFootballHOF: Bill Cowher. Congratulations, @CowherCBS! #PFHOF20 pic.twitter.com/s5f1gXuDfO — CBS Sports (@CBSSports) January 12, 2020 __________________ Thinkin' of a master plan 'Cuz ain't nuthin' but sweat inside my hand So I dig into my pocket, all my money is spent So I dig deeper but still comin' up with lint Last edited by cartman : 01-11-2020 at 10:18 PM.

01-07-2020, 12:14 PM	#1504
sabotai General Manager Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: The Satellite of Love	Matt Rhule to Carolina, and the Giants are hiring Joe Judge, NE Special Teams Coordinator, as their next HC. Giants subreddit is acting like the sky is falling and they're the new Browns, but I don't hate the hire as I don't know much about him. Honestly, I was very worried about Matt Rhule, being as he's spent just about his entire coaching career in college. And Carolina just gave him a 7-year, $60M deal.

01-07-2020, 12:17 PM	#1505
bhlloy Coordinator Join Date: Nov 2003	I think I'd much prefer a college HC over an NFL special teams co-ordinator? I don't know anything about him either, but if we're knocking experience I know which one I'd be infinitely more concerned about.

01-07-2020, 02:10 PM	#1506
Lathum Favored Bitch #1 Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: homeless in NJ	As a giants fan I am skeptical of the hire at best. He was also the Pats WR coach and as a unit they were awful. It screams of him being hired just because he comes from the pats, but BBs coaching tree isn’t all that impressive.

01-07-2020, 05:58 PM	#1511
Atocep Coordinator Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Puyallup, WA	I think the NFL does a terrible job of hiring by using success as a coordinator to narrow down coaching candidates. The skills needed to be a successful head coach don't match up very much with what's needed to be a successful coordinator. Organization, Motivation, talent evaluation, and communication are the top skills for head coaches while Xs and Os tend to top everything else as a coordinator. Judge was very high on WVU's list last year and after Holgorsen the WVU athletic department was strongly looking for an improvement in the Organization, motivation, and communication areas. The thing I like about Rhule is he's one of the few top college candidates that really isn't married to a particular system. His success has been based more on the skills listed above more than having a great system or superior talent. Both are leaps of faith in different ways, but I'd rather see my team hire one of these guys than jumping back into the cycle of retreads.

01-07-2020, 06:02 PM	#1512
RainMaker Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Chicago, IL	Rhule has a pretty nice resume. Takes terrible teams and turns them around. It's not a recruiting thing either. Like that Baylor team this year was starting most of the guys who were on their 1-11 squad.

01-08-2020, 12:40 AM	#1515
stevew Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: the yo'	The best thing about the majority of these coaching hires is that we will have a firm answer as to whether they were a mistake within 3 years.

01-08-2020, 12:50 AM	#1516
stevew Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: the yo'	Seems like Carolina should move up to #3 and take Tua or Herbert I’d think. Or at least trade up to #32 and grab whatever QB is left(Eason, Fromm,etc).

01-08-2020, 12:19 PM	#1518
QuikSand lolzcat Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Annapolis, Md	Miami is surely in the mix for Tua, they have been enchanted for quite some time. I'm not sure what fever there will be for him, given his injury, and the way Burrow just stole his spotlight this season.

01-11-2020, 10:19 PM	#1525
cuervo72 Head Coach Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Maryland	Saw that live. It was a good TV moment. __________________ null

01-11-2020, 10:32 PM	#1526
Carman Bulldog College Benchwarmer Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Canada	I'm really liking Arthur Smith's play calling the past two weeks. Also, does Lamar Jackson get tagged with the can't win big/playoff/important/etc. games label after last year and this year? And as I write this, I acknowledge there is quite a bit of time left still. Last edited by Carman Bulldog : 01-11-2020 at 10:34 PM.

01-11-2020, 10:37 PM	#1528
Lathum Favored Bitch #1 Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: homeless in NJ	hahahahahahahaha literally as I type that he throws an all time terrible pass.

01-11-2020, 10:38 PM	#1529
JPhillips Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Newburgh, NY	Vrabel is a hell of a coach. Is he the first from the Belichick tree to be great? __________________ To love someone is to strive to accept that person exactly the way he or she is, right here and now.. - Mr. Rogers

01-11-2020, 10:40 PM	#1531
bhlloy Coordinator Join Date: Nov 2003	The Ravens are getting absolutely dominated on the line on both sides of the ball. This is nuts.

01-11-2020, 11:19 PM	#1537
bhlloy Coordinator Join Date: Nov 2003	His receivers have flat out let him down to be fair. Funny to compare this to all the excuses made for Brady, who at least has Edelman.

01-11-2020, 11:37 PM	#1538
Thomkal Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Surfside Beach,SC USA	So if I had a vote for GM of the year, it would probably go to the Titans GM who traded for Tannehill. What a rags to riches story for Tannehill. __________________ Coastal Carolina Baseball-2016 National Champion! 10/17/20-Coastal Football ranked in Top 25 for first time!

01-11-2020, 11:41 PM	#1540
JonInMiddleGA Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Behind Enemy Lines in Athens, GA	I wonder ... how many QBs have won 2 playoff games in a row with 160 yards total passing? __________________ "I lit another cigarette. Unless I specifically inform you to the contrary, I am always lighting another cigarette." - from a novel by Martin Amis

01-12-2020, 02:49 AM	#1544
bhlloy Coordinator Join Date: Nov 2003	The narrative already seems to be putting the blame squarely on Lamar, that's just not the game I watched. I guess it's always going to be shocking when the MVP QB has a below average game in the playoffs and loses, but man. The Ravens just did not show up to play across the board.

01-12-2020, 11:11 AM	#1546
QuikSand lolzcat Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Annapolis, Md	Baltimore is reeling...

01-12-2020, 11:28 AM	#1548
QuikSand lolzcat Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Annapolis, Md	Sorry, I wasn't fully clear. In addition to being the first name of a football team, "Baltimore" also refers to an American city in Maryland. That's my reference above, thread title notwithstanding. The city, in recent years weighed down by a rampant crime problem, public corruption, and many lingering elements of systemic racism and bias, managed to rally around the football team in a pretty public way. Not as a true substitute for the policy and leadership that might help the City through these difficult times, but as a focus for optimism... a bit like New Orleans and their Saints, post-Katrina. The Ravens' collapse and elimination has hit the city hard. There were 12 shootings in the city last night, I believe five fatal. I work in Maryland politics, and am already hearing a lot from various non-sports people that the city really "needed" to have something to rally around. Baltimore is reeling.

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