Werewolf XLV - ROME! (Game over, post 3425)

[KWhit]

Originally Posted by Peregrine

If the sex slaves can stop a Consul from arresting someone then we are really screwed. I mean, I'm pretty sure there's no way we can win anyway, but that would really clinch it.

They stop an action. I would be surprised if it couldn't stop a consul arrest.

[Passacaglia]

Dear Senators, I have more grave news. I was unable to procure the services of Macro Gothicus.

[hoopsguy]

OK, so lets try and work through how the hiring of the killer would work.

Day 1 - we see a list of services, including Furius Lucius
Day 2 - whoever won Furius deploys him. But the bad guys allow Macro Gothicus to fall to Ironhead, when there are multiple wealthier people ahead of him (Bullet and Crew were good, DC and Pass/MV were ahead of him as well, possibly others)
Day 3 - bad guys win the bid fof Furius again, based on results
Day 4 - we try to coordinate who gets Macro, bad guys release Furius again.

[hoopsguy]

Originally Posted by Passacaglia

Dear Senators, I have more grave news. I was unable to procure the services of Macro Gothicus.

The only person who could beat you for that bid would be DC. Crew was not allowed to procure services from prison and you three were at the top of the food chain.

[Passacaglia]

As I promised, I went out in search of the man I was told was named Furio, but was actually named Macro. I hired him on the spot, but upon returning to my office, he informed me that his name was actually Maximus Maximus, and that he was a bodyguard.

My intent truly was to hire Macro Gothicus, and I am sure I called him Macro Gothicus by name in my correspondence with him. It was not until the contract had been signed that he revealed his true identity. I am sorry I let down the Republic by being duped in such a manner.

[Poli]

My message has been sent.

[KWhit]

Originally Posted by Passacaglia

As I promised, I went out in search of the man I was told was named Furio, but was actually named Macro. I hired him on the spot, but upon returning to my office, he informed me that his name was actually Maximus Maximus, and that he was a bodyguard.

My intent truly was to hire Macro Gothicus, and I am sure I called him Macro Gothicus by name in my correspondence with him. It was not until the contract had been signed that he revealed his true identity. I am sorry I let down the Republic by being duped in such a manner.

Huh?

[Peregrine]

So we'll have to hear from Barkeep to be sure, but if he was sex slaved, then who are the traitors protecting? The last list Barkeep made was LSG (already arrested), myself (loyal) and Antmeister.

[Passacaglia]

Originally Posted by hoopsguy

The only person who could beat you for that bid would be DC. Crew was not allowed to procure services from prison and you three were at the top of the food chain.

I can't guarantee that DC beat me, as I ended up with Maximus Maximus.

[hoopsguy]

Well, the answer to who got Macro will come into play tomorrow, not with the results we just saw.

[Abe Sargent]

Originally Posted by KWhit

So Ironhead had the sex slaves sent to him on day 3? Meaning they were back in play today, right? So someone could have sent them to BK????

Can anyone vouch for them? Who won them yesterday?

As I mentioned earlier, I won them. I did not send them to Bk, that'd be silly.

[KWhit]

Originally Posted by Anxiety

As I mentioned earlier, I won them. I did not send them to Bk, that'd be silly.

I didn't remember who said they had them. So you had the sex slaves last night/today? Did you send them to somebody?

[hoopsguy]

Updated lawsuit results (current):

AlanT (5-0) over KWhit, Hoops, Rum, Barkeep, and ITC
KWhit (14-1) loss to Alan, wins over WVU, Saldana, Swaggs, AE, Bullet, SnDvls, Rum, DT, Hoops, Narc, Neon, Tyrith, Ardent, Anxiety
Anxiety (6-1) loss to KWhit. Wins over Neon, DT, LSG, MV, Schmidty twice
Saldana (6-1) loss to KWhit, wins over Autumn, Barkeep, Rum, CW twice, and Ant
Narcizo (3-1) loss to KWhit, wins over Peregrine, LSG, and DT
Peregrine (3-1) loss to Narcizo, wins over Path, Neon, and LSG
Path (2-1) loss to Peregrine, wins over Neon and Ant
Gramm (2-1) loss to Autumn, wins over Mustang and Pass
Hoops (3-2) losses to Alan and KWhit, wins over Autumn, BK, and DT
Autumn (3-2) loss to Saldana and Hoops, wins over WVU, Gramm, and Neon
Bullet (1-1) loss to KWhit, win over ITC
AE (2-2) loss to KWhit twice, win over Swaggs and CW
CW (2-3) loss to Ardent and Saldana twice, wins over Iron and DC
Barkeep (2-3) lost to Saldana, KWhit,and Hoops. Wins over Neon twice
Crew (1-2) losses to Bullet and AlanT, win over DC
Rum (1-3) losses to Alan, KWhit, and Saldana. wins over LSG
Neon (2-7) losses to Barkeep twice, Autumn, Path, Peregrine, win over Ant twice
DT (1-4) lost to Anxiety, KWhit, Narcizo, and Hoops. Win over WVU
Ant (1-4) lost to Neon twice, Path, and Saldana. Win over Schmidty
Iron (0-1) loss to CW
SnDvls (0-1) loss to KWhit
Tyrith (0-1) loss to KWhit
Swaggs (0-2) loss to KWhit and AE
DC (0-2) lost to ITC and CW
Pass (0-2) lost to Anxiety and Gramm
Schmidty (0-3) loss to Anxiety twice and Ant
LSG (0-4) lost to Rum, Narcizo, Peregrine, and Anxiety
WVU/Mustang (0-4) loss to Autumn, DT, KWhit, Gramm

[Abe Sargent]

Originally Posted by hoopsguy

The only person who could beat you for that bid would be DC. Crew was not allowed to procure services from prison and you three were at the top of the food chain.

That depends on if money changes before bids are done. Has stcronin posted that? He got knocked down hard today.

[path12]

Originally Posted by st.cronin

The following Senators have been murdered:

Saldanus Lathumus, by sword
Schmidtyus Schmidtyus, by poison

Crap. I was trying to hire him.

[Lorena]

Alright I just woke up so I'm gonna post what I got by PM. I acquired the services of Ardent for Day IV and I had him check Autumn... he's in the clear no evidence of wrongdoing.

Now I gotta get ready for work... cya'll later.

[Antmeister]

Man....something is way off. KWhit, you are totally defending BK and I am not 100% sure which person sent the vote. Anxiety clearly states that he acquired the sex slaves and didn't use them on BK. Do I trust Anxiety, KWhit, or BK? Who is BSing us?

[Abe Sargent]

As one of the new wealthiest, do you folks think I should make a play for Furius today? Or should I try to lock up one of teh better roles that aren't as contentious?

[Abe Sargent]

I want to hear from BK first. What happened buddy?

[Autumn]

Originally Posted by Anxiety

That depends on if money changes before bids are done. Has stcronin posted that? He got knocked down hard today.

That will be vital to know. Hopefully st.cronin will give us that info.

So far, it seems like either Barkeepus or Abeus Anxietus is a traitor. I'll be waiting to hear Barkeepus' defense.

I don't understand what you are saying Pascalligus. Do you think a mistake was made in your PMs with St.Cronin?

[hoopsguy]

Originally Posted by Anxiety

That depends on if money changes before bids are done. Has stcronin posted that? He got knocked down hard today.

Anxiety, how did you come into such great wealth? You jumped two levels, which is more rapid than when KWhit was winning 5+ suits a day.

[Poli]

Oh, shoot. BK is here. This should be good.

[Abe Sargent]

Maybe it was the people I beat?

[KWhit]

Originally Posted by Antmeister

Man....something is way off. KWhit, you are totally defending BK and I am not 100% sure which person sent the vote. Anxiety clearly states that he acquired the sex slaves and didn't use them on BK. Do I trust Anxiety, KWhit, or BK? Who is BSing us?

I am trying to figure out what happened. I'm not defending anybody - especially BK after he ripped me a new on last night when my conditional arrest didn't go through. If it turns out that he screwed up and didn't get an order in, then his ass is grass.

And why in the WORLD would you think I didn't make the arrest? I posted this WELL before BK started discussing who he would vote for:

Originally Posted by KWhit

This is for Barkeep:

I'm going to arrest LoneStarGirlus.






Just having a little fun.

And then LSG is the one who was arrested! Why would you even consider that I didn't make the arrest like I said I would. It makes no sense!

[Autumn]

I'm glad to be in the clear, Dodgerus Chickus, but I don't know if it's been wise for you to use your wealth on the lawyers and sex slaves while we're getting murdered.

[Abe Sargent]

My guess is I was nearly at the top of that level, and then the combination of multiple victories today turned out really well for me.

[Poli]

Alas, it's time for me to retire to chambers. G'night.

[Autumn]

Originally Posted by hoopsguy

Anxiety, how did you come into such great wealth? You jumped two levels, which is more rapid than when KWhit was winning 5+ suits a day.

It seems bizarre to me too. It could be a quirk of the numbers.

[Barkeep49]

I apologize. I was at work at the library and the internet was basically down and I was prevented from sending in any sort of order.

[Peregrine]

I have to admit, I'm starting to get a bit suspicious why all the lawyers are getting killed, but AE continues to remain alive. Traitors protecting their own, perhaps.

[KWhit]

Originally Posted by Barkeep49

I apologize. I was at work at the library and the internet was basically down and I was prevented from sending in any sort of order.

That's too bad.

[Mustang]

If Barkeep is a tarq, (or anyone for that matter), what is the benefit in NOT arresting someone? The only thing I can think of is that LSG is not a Tarq, he knows that and so he would not bother with an arrest but, that seems like a horrible move.

[Autumn]

Originally Posted by KWhit

And why in the WORLD would you think I didn't make the arrest? I posted this WELL before BK started discussing who he would vote for:

As I said before the results of the execution, I had the impression Antus knew ITC was innocent, and is trying to set up some other loyal members to look bad. This seems more of the same. This suggests to me that Antus and perhaps Barkeepus both are traitors. I'd be glad to see evidence that proves me wrong.

[KWhit]

Originally Posted by Peregrine

I have to admit, I'm starting to get a bit suspicious why all the lawyers are getting killed, but AE continues to remain alive. Traitors protecting their own, perhaps.

I noticed the same thing. Don't know if it means anything. But it's something to keep an eye on.

[Coffee Warlord]

Well kids, I screwed up.

Yes. I had the sword last night, and used it on Saldana. It was a calculated risk that, well, failed miserably. From the beginning, I frankly thought there was a chance that the Tarqs might start with one position of power, and Tribune was the only position that none of us could challenge. Add to that the fact that Saldana was posting very sparingly, and I had a suspicion in the back of my head that he could be bad.

So...yesterday I bid on the murdered, and had him executed. I took a shot on a gut feeling, and blew it. May have screwed us royally, and if so, my apologies.

If you wanna gut me, go ahead. Still not a traitor, though I freely admit I done messed up on that one.

[KWhit]

Originally Posted by Autumn

As I said before the results of the execution, I had the impression Antus knew ITC was innocent, and is trying to set up some other loyal members to look bad. This seems more of the same. This suggests to me that Antus and perhaps Barkeepus both are traitors. I'd be glad to see evidence that proves me wrong.

I agree about Ant. He either is not listening, not thinking, or is a Tarquin. Neither one of those is particularly helpful.

[Barkeep49]

Originally Posted by KWhit

That's too bad.

See the WW ethics thread. I never lie about RL availability and have a long history of stating how I'm at work on Thursday nights.

[KWhit]

Originally Posted by Coffee Warlord

Well kids, I screwed up.

Yes. I had the sword last night, and used it on Saldana. It was a calculated risk that, well, failed miserably. From the beginning, I frankly thought there was a chance that the Tarqs might start with one position of power, and Tribune was the only position that none of us could challenge. Add to that the fact that Saldana was posting very sparingly, and I had a suspicion in the back of my head that he could be bad.

So...yesterday I bid on the murdered, and had him executed. I took a shot on a gut feeling, and blew it. May have screwed us royally, and if so, my apologies.

If you wanna gut me, go ahead. Still not a traitor, though I freely admit I done messed up on that one.

Do we KNOW that Saldana was loyal? Did I miss something?

[hoopsguy]

It is a smidge early to go after people for still being alive (in my opinion), but I think it is critical that the person hiring Lawyer #2 (Neon) use them to scan Ardent.

[Coffee Warlord]

I didn't see any notice that he WASN'T, so I assume the worst. Believe me, I'd be quite relieved if my gamble paid off.

[Autumn]

Originally Posted by Mustang

If Barkeep is a tarq, (or anyone for that matter), what is the benefit in NOT arresting someone? The only thing I can think of is that LSG is not a Tarq, he knows that and so he would not bother with an arrest but, that seems like a horrible move.

Well that seems like a great move, actually. As has been mentioned, wtih two candidates there's a chance of a split vote and no execution. So far we've shown willingness to jump on a bandwagon and kill a quiet Senator regardless of the lack of negative evidence. If Barkeepus was a traitor, and saw Kayus Whitus' arrest plan, it would be smart for him to not arrest.

Except for the fact that everybody's going to be hihgly dubious of any excuse he uses, and likely to label him a traitor.

[KWhit]

Originally Posted by Barkeep49

See the WW ethics thread. I never lie about RL availability and have a long history of stating how I'm at work on Thursday nights.

I'm not accusing you of lying. I'm just pissed off that you blasted me last night about this and then tonight you screw the pooch.

That's all.

[hoopsguy]

Originally Posted by Coffee Warlord

So...yesterday I bid on the murdered, and had him executed. I took a shot on a gut feeling, and blew it. May have screwed us royally, and if so, my apologies.

If you wanna gut me, go ahead. Still not a traitor, though I freely admit I done messed up on that one.

Didn't learn your lesson from my Necromancer game, eh?

Although have we got anything that 100% validates that the "senators" are not Tarqs? I'm certainly working under that assumption. Did your PM make it absolutely clear that you murdered a Roman and not a Tarq?

[Barkeep49]

Originally Posted by KWhit

I'm not accusing you of lying. I'm just pissed off that you blasted me last night about this and then tonight you screw the pooch.

That's all.

Fair enough.

[KWhit]

Originally Posted by Autumn

Well that seems like a great move, actually. As has been mentioned, wtih two candidates there's a chance of a split vote and no execution. So far we've shown willingness to jump on a bandwagon and kill a quiet Senator regardless of the lack of negative evidence. If Barkeepus was a traitor, and saw Kayus Whitus' arrest plan, it would be smart for him to not arrest.

Except for the fact that everybody's going to be hihgly dubious of any excuse he uses, and likely to label him a traitor.

I don't know. Everybody gave me so much crap last night (BK included), that I don't think it makes sense for a Tarq consul to use this as a ploy. A much better strategy is just to arrest a good guy, IMO.

Now, I'm pretty ticked off about the whole thing and wouldn't mind throwing off the cliff just because, but I don't think his non-arrest makes him any more likely to be a Tarq.

[Autumn]

Originally Posted by Coffee Warlord

Well kids, I screwed up.

Yes. I had the sword last night, and used it on Saldana. It was a calculated risk that, well, failed miserably. From the beginning, I frankly thought there was a chance that the Tarqs might start with one position of power, and Tribune was the only position that none of us could challenge. Add to that the fact that Saldana was posting very sparingly, and I had a suspicion in the back of my head that he could be bad.

So...yesterday I bid on the murdered, and had him executed. I took a shot on a gut feeling, and blew it. May have screwed us royally, and if so, my apologies.

If you wanna gut me, go ahead. Still not a traitor, though I freely admit I done messed up on that one.

Wow, that was a rather bold move, and I definitely woudln't have singled Saldanus out myself. I'm tempted to give you the benefit of the doubt based on my previous trust of you. But I think it likely we'll never find out Saldana's loyalty, and now we have to worry about you.

I'd like to make a point that we now know that Balbus Senna can convert a Senator, correct? So we have to factor conversions into our trust equations. We know one night he was used by Schmidty on Hoops, mistakenly. I believe hew as also available for bidding on Day 2, and so was probably used on Day 3.

[Antmeister]

Originally Posted by KWhit

I am trying to figure out what happened. I'm not defending anybody - especially BK after he ripped me a new on last night when my conditional arrest didn't go through. If it turns out that he screwed up and didn't get an order in, then his ass is grass.

And why in the WORLD would you think I didn't make the arrest? I posted this WELL before BK started discussing who he would vote for:




And then LSG is the one who was arrested! Why would you even consider that I didn't make the arrest like I said I would. It makes no sense!

Ugh....my bad, I am confused by the rules. I thought this was a PM vote and that explained the conditional vote earlier. After reading the first page again, I guess that mean you did make your vote.

[KWhit]

Originally Posted by Autumn

I'd like to make a point that we now know that Balbus Senna can convert a Senator, correct?

We do?!?!?

What did I miss?

[KWhit]

Originally Posted by Antmeister

Ugh....my bad, I am confused by the rules. I thought this was a PM vote and that explained the conditional vote earlier. After reading the first page again, I guess that mean you did make your vote.

It is a PM vote.

My point was why in the world would I tell everyone that I was gonna vote for LSG and then not do it. And yet LSG gets arrested anyway.

Doesn't make sense...

But it IS a PM arrest (just to be clear).

[Peregrine]

Originally Posted by hoopsguy

It is a smidge early to go after people for still being alive (in my opinion), but I think it is critical that the person hiring Lawyer #2 (Neon) use them to scan Ardent.

I'd buy this tactic even more if I didn't already suspect Neon. There seems to be no doubt that the traitors are killing off lawyers to get control of them. It's possible they have both slots now, if so, we're in trouble.