WW CXLVIII - Ancient Infection - EVIL WINS!

[Danny]

It's also interesting that if the two transformed are from Jackal, Darth and LSG that they stacked their votes. Normally I believe its more common to spread your vote, but after the last game where I picked apart certain things, I wouldnt be surprised is the transformed when against the grain here.

Additionally, it should be noted that a transformed combo of Zinto with any of LSG, Jackal or Darth seems unlikely due to the risk of lynching a trasnformed day 1. THis would leave Kwhit and Zinto as the only combo with Zinto which I think is unlikely, so I am going to go ahead and put Zinto down as the least likely transformed of the five remaining players.

[Danny]

I also based on gut, don't think the transformed is Kwhit. Can't really gleam much info from him, but I think he along with Zinto seem like the least likely transformed.

That IMO puts our likely transformed list to
LSG
Darth
Jackal

[Danny]

LSG is likely where I will vote today. #1, we don;t have to be perfect, and lynching her gives us the most information. #2, she has played much tighter this game than last. It may be because of the more complex mechanics, but I think she may be using that as an excuse as I see her capable of processing these mechanics without any trouble.

[Danny]

I take that back, we are in do or die time here. A bad lynch, night kill and infection puts us in a situation where the wolves may be able to do an all out reveal and have the majority vote.

[Danny]

Just want to reiterate, but we absolutely have to hit a transformed with this lynch. It's do or die time.

[Narcizo]

Originally Posted by Danny

And I am going to limit our list down further. I am one of the nurses, last night I scanned Narcizo and he is infected. That means he 100% can't be a transformed as well.

I am revealing for two reasons. One, it clears up one more name on our list and also lets everyone know not to trust narcizo for today at least. #2, it's very possible our doctor has been infected, in which case all my scans are going to waste anway. #3, I am motivated to get killed before the game is over.

Well that's a gloriously non-specific reveal. No name? No list of scan targets? Don't really have the chance to get into this now but if I were to guess you're infected and you think the baddies are going to win the game, so you're hoping to be nightkilled.

If your story is true we should be looking to lynch someone who's an idiot. Given the fact that the infected have to send in their kill orders on their own, why on Earth would someone choose to convert me? At one point I was offended that I hadn't been converted but then I realised it would be idiotic to convert me.

Obviously the doctor knows you're lying. By avoiding saying who you are you ensure that neither nurse can be sure if you're lying. All villager reveals have said who they are. Your reveal is like mau's.

This iPhone is driving me potty. That's all from me for now.

[mauchow]

infected docs would be great....

[JAG]

Anyone who's dead and wants to chat about the game is welcome to come here (and sign up if you haven't already, to get let into the subforum that's only open to players out of the game):

General WW discussion

[Raiders Army]

Good luck village, but I think you're going to lose.

[Danny]

Whatever Marc, I'm nurse michaelson.

I scanned on order jag, lsg, jag, crimson fox, narcizo. Every scan came up empty except narc.

[Danny]

If I was infected I still wouldn't know who transformed were, so I see no advantage to that play.

[Passacaglia]

Can't our remaining doctor (who can't be infected) clear this up? If Danny's scans match what the Doctor received, he's right. Doc probably hasn't shown up, or is waiting to see who takes which side before coming out -- or maybe doesn't see it fit to come out yet -- maybe it's best for the Doc to stay quiet if things are going on the right path? I dunno. FYI, I'm not asking because I'm the Doctor (so don't kill me infecteds), I'm just trying to talk this stuff through.

[Danny]

If the doctor is on that list of five peoPle I think they have to reveal. We need this lynch or we lose, no point in savImg things

[Zinto]

If the other nurse is in the group, they should reveal but not reveal all their scans. Maybe just the last scan or the last two scans that way the doctor can be confirmed and the two nurses can also be confirmed.

[Danny]

Remember though that the nurses can be infected.

[Zinto]

I am Doctor Mangold. If the other nurse is in the group of five reveal. Last night you scanned Pass and found him to be not infected. Danny is telling the truth about Narc he is infected.

[Zinto]

So currently Pass, Danny, and I are all confirmed to be villagers for the day. The next night I am going to be gone more than likely but Narcizo will definitely be a villager for the next day provided we do not lose.

[Danny]

Great play Zinto. That really helps clear up some things

[Zinto]

We all need to stack our votes on one candidate today so that we make sure we don't give the baddies a chance to screw up the vote. They do not have a double vote and one of the infected's vote is not going to count(I think)

[Danny]

So updated

11 players left, 2 tranformed.

We know the following are 100% not the transformed

Zinto (the doctor)
Danny (seer scanned)
Mauboy (Cultist)
Passacaglia (seer scanned)
GoldenEagle (seer scanned)
Narcizo (currently infected)

Current list of potential transformed

Lonestargirl
Darth Vilus
CrimsonFox
Kwhit
Jackal

And again, I just can't see Crimsonfox being the transformed, so that puts our list of possible votes to

Lonestargirl
Darth Vilus
Kwhit
Jackal

[Danny]

Day 1 Vote Count. Since no one was infected that day, I am putting in green those who cant be tranformed

crimson fox (4) - raiders army, EagleFan, Chief Rum, JAG
zinto (4) - the jackal, darth vilus, lonestargirl, GoldenEagle
danny (4) - britrock88, simbo klice, cougarfreak, julio
julio riddols (6) - bhlloy, narcizo, mauboy1, crimson fox, zinto, danny
cougarfreak (1) - passacaglia

Yet to vote - Kwhit

[Danny]

And again remember Eaglefan posted that we should look at Julio voters which included Crimson and he made a key vote on Crimson day one. Just dont see anyway Crimson is transformed. I think the two tranformed are two of Jackal, Darth and Lonestargirl

[Danny]

Kwhit is possible as well, I have no read on him as he is barely playing.

[Danny]

Day 4 voting (with non transformed in green)

lonestargirl (6) - narcizo, danny, crimsonfox, kwhit, darth vilus, JAG
britrock88 (7) - the jackal, goldeneagle, lonestargirl, passacaglia, zinto, eaglefan, mauboy
darth vilus (1) - raiders army

[Zinto]

Just in case the other nurse wants another scan they made to make sure that I am the actual doctor on night two they scanned Narcizo. The other nurse is also one hundred percent not infected and clearly not the transformed.

[Danny]

I don't think the combo is Darth and LSG, I think it's more likely we have either Jackal and Darth or LSG and Jackal. Because of that

vote Jackal

[Danny]

If we get real lucky the other nurse is LSG, Jackal or Darth.

[Zinto]

On Tuesday villagers should all stack with Narcizo I am going to reiterate this constantly I definitely will be able to cure him before I go. Today we have to stick all our votes together and since we are going to make a correct decision we will be good to go.

[Danny]

Originally Posted by The Jackal

Based on the D1 vote and general UTR play which would benefit a transformed when we have had runaway candidates three days in a row.

vote Brit

Real early vote on Brit, a confirmed villager here

[Zinto]

I guess when we kill a transformed today, they won't have a conversion so tomorrow Pass, Danny and Narc will be confirmed good.

[Danny]

Originally Posted by Autumn

Slackers.

Day 5 Vote Count

JAG - mauboy
lonestargirl - narcizo, danny, crimsonfox
britrock88 - JAG, the jackal
narcizo - raiders army
mauboy - EagleFan

You'll notice Jackal's vote was a second vote on a non wolf, very early in the day. That's a real wolfy vote there.

[Zinto]

Plus the nurse who should reveal so I can confirm their identity and they can confirm mine. I am expecting their other three scans on reveal.

[Danny]

All the late movement on day 5 was by EF / Mauboy and confirmed villagers in Jag and Zinto. I do wonder if EF was just playing around with two villagers on the line.

[Danny]

I definitely think Jackal is a wolf, but other between Darth and LSG will be tough I think.

[Danny]

Really really hoping we catch a break here on the other nurse.

[Danny]

FWIW, If I am going by gut, I don't think Darth is the wolf. That leaves us with Jackal and LSG

[EagleFan]

[Danny]

A confident EF posts nothing, he's starting to sweat now

[EagleFan]

That post only meant one thing.... entertain me. I'm no longer a player but a reader now. I demand my entertainment.

[Narcizo]

Needless to say I rather think the real doctor should reveal here. Looks like Danny and Zinto are playing an end game here.

[The Jackal]

I will try and help out here, and Zinto should be able to confirm. I was bitten on N2 and cured last night.

I didn't reveal right after the night deadline because 1) I was drunk at a wedding and 2) I wanted to clear it with autumn that revealing this info would be kosher.

[The Jackal]

Hmm, we should have made zinto tell us who he cured in order for me to fully trust his reveal. Sorry, still away and on my phone and not thinking perfectly

[The Jackal]

vote lsg

[Zinto]

Jackal was cured by me during the last night. I am not going to reveal who I have cured so far since I think it helps the wolves more than us so they have a more complete road map of what I have done.

[Zinto]

So, Jackal is not out transformed leaving Kwhit, LSG, and DV as the people we need to vote for.

[Zinto]

And actually I will reveal my scans even though Jackal is the only person who could confirm my cure to be true(more than likely) and since you were on out list of three there was no way I was going to tell you that I cured you last night since you would have just claimed to be cure if you were a transformed. Two of my cures are dead so it is not great. One is confirmed bad and two are confirmed good.

Night 1: Jag
Night 2: Narcizo
Night 3: Simbo
Night 4: Danny
Night 5: Jackal

[Zinto]

So at this point the other nurse should reveal so we can confirm each others identities. I will repost their scan last night and on night two. Last night was Pass and night to was Narc

[Zinto]

We also do not look so bad number wise. We have one infected cures and we will have another cured for tomorrow.

[Zinto]

I guess mt last thing, is a question for Autumn:

Does a nurse's scan go to a doctor on the same night they are infected? If a nurse was infected on night two for example would the doctor still receive results of their scan on night two?

[Narcizo]

Vote LoneStarGirl

Seems like the wolves are causing maximum confusion to hide the fact that the Mummy just saved LSG. More to come later.