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Old 06-03-2008, 02:33 PM   #1501
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This is all screwed up.

I think it's clear that Sealion and Render are both lying.
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Old 06-03-2008, 02:34 PM   #1502
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Ok let me clarify WHY I'm pissed off, if I can anyway.

I'm told I blocked Kwhit.

Seolian says he blocked Kwhit.

Cronin says he followed seolian and saw himfighting two people.

IF this is all true then WHY didn't *I* see a third party?

IF this is true why didn't Seolian see a third Party?

my only explanation is that Seolian is lying, but he scans light so WTF am I suposed to think now?

seriously? What would YOU do?


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Old 06-03-2008, 02:45 PM   #1503
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B.S.

Yeah, I'm convinced.
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Old 06-03-2008, 02:46 PM   #1504
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B.S.


Stuff it furball, I KNOW you're a wolf, I bloked you trying to kill Olie. Gues you thought that all that talk about her being protected tonight was a cover up and I'd protect someone else eh?

Nice doggy, now get in yer frakin kennel and shush.
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Old 06-03-2008, 02:48 PM   #1505
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My theory...KWhit knows he's toast, not putting up much of a fight. RendeR figures he'll claim the BG role after Seolian, but forgets either that I scanned him and he came back light, or that Cronin followed him, then shifts to "there must be 2 bg's" and pushes blame onto Clap, put on annoyed ww player act. Either way, I believe they are both (KWhit and RendeR) doggies.

Where are we on voting nightfall?
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Old 06-03-2008, 02:50 PM   #1506
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we lynch him and have 1 more doggie to lynch for the win...

how do you know there is only 1 more after that?
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Old 06-03-2008, 02:51 PM   #1507
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My theory...KWhit knows he's toast, not putting up much of a fight. RendeR figures he'll claim the BG role after Seolian, but forgets either that I scanned him and he came back light, or that Cronin followed him, then shifts to "there must be 2 bg's" and pushes blame onto Clap, put on annoyed ww player act. Either way, I believe they are both (KWhit and RendeR) doggies.

Where are we on voting nightfall?

I contend this is way too easy.

There is no chance in hell we have this many seers, bodyguards, strays, invincibles, etc, etc, etc. I about guarantee there's some people in our trusted list that are not what they seem.

There's a possibility of a second Chihuaha as well. Which could be SeaLion, which would explain all the bodyguard fiasco shit.

Hell, there's about a billion different possiblities, but I don't buy it being this simple.
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Old 06-03-2008, 02:51 PM   #1508
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how do you know there is only 1 more after that?

Just a guess, and going off what others have said...4 wolves. PB, Kwhit, RendeR and the unknown doggie that is left.
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Old 06-03-2008, 02:52 PM   #1509
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My theory...KWhit knows he's toast, not putting up much of a fight. RendeR figures he'll claim the BG role after Seolian, but forgets either that I scanned him and he came back light, or that Cronin followed him, then shifts to "there must be 2 bg's" and pushes blame onto Clap, put on annoyed ww player act. Either way, I believe they are both (KWhit and RendeR) doggies.

Where are we on voting nightfall?



lets test it, lets get the real og (Kwhit) vote nightfall and get that scan in so you can be convinced.
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Old 06-03-2008, 02:54 PM   #1510
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lets test it, lets get the real og (Kwhit) vote nightfall and get that scan in so you can be convinced.

I've already voted nightfall...that is why I asked where we were on that. Have we gotten a ruling from Clap on voting nightfall and if it's allowed/will be honored?
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Old 06-03-2008, 02:54 PM   #1511
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My theory...KWhit knows he's toast, not putting up much of a fight. RendeR figures he'll claim the BG role after Seolian, but forgets either that I scanned him and he came back light, or that Cronin followed him, then shifts to "there must be 2 bg's" and pushes blame onto Clap, put on annoyed ww player act. Either way, I believe they are both (KWhit and RendeR) doggies.

Where are we on voting nightfall?



Oh and *I* didn't bring up the 2 bodyguard stuff, that was already on the table. I don't believe there are two I think sea lion is an imposter and a dog, but no one else seems to want to believe there are two chiuahua's in the game so I'm on my own there.
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Old 06-03-2008, 02:55 PM   #1512
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nightfall is alowed, but unless Imnot gonna press daybreak, so if the night actions arent in untill 1PM tommorow then its just a long night.... but feel free to vote nightfall!
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Old 06-03-2008, 02:55 PM   #1513
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Yeah, I'm convinced.

I'm trying to fight this stuff while I'm on a conference call (makes it difficult). I just know what I am and am confused by what sealion and render are saying. None of it adds up.
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Old 06-03-2008, 03:01 PM   #1514
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Old 06-03-2008, 03:02 PM   #1515
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I'm trying to fight this stuff while I'm on a conference call (makes it difficult). I just know what I am and am confused by what sealion and render are saying. None of it adds up.

Well, take your time, as far as I'm concerned. I hate nightfall votes.
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Old 06-03-2008, 03:02 PM   #1516
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So lets get the nightfall votes in and then get orders in as soon after and hopefully get this next day in early enough to have day 5 tomorrow at noon.
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Old 06-03-2008, 03:03 PM   #1517
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I am the Killer Lolcat. I win with the cats but have a dark aura. I get a one time kill action and am immune to night kills.
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Old 06-03-2008, 03:04 PM   #1518
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Well, take your time, as far as I'm concerned. I hate nightfall votes.


Oh come on, you can't sit there and say its a bad idea to get an extra day in when we know kwhit is a dog at this point? lets that waiting out of the way and work on the next day?
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Old 06-03-2008, 03:05 PM   #1519
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This is one of the more confusing series of posts that I've read in awhile, but I don't think it has to be hard going forward.

Everyone agrees KWhit was attacking Olie and Olie saw his as wolf. We lynch KWhit, moving right along.

Since both parties who are claiming to be bodyguards protected Oliegirl last night used their power, Olie is toast. Wolves will kill her tonight (barring a LOLcat bodyguard block).

We then move to RendeR if he is uncleared - which will be the case, barring LOLcat scan or block on Olie.

If that fails, then we go after the uncleared folks, with me very much included in that list. Jackal has done a good job of keeping this front and center, so lets not lose track of our expansive COT.
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Old 06-03-2008, 03:06 PM   #1520
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I am the Killer Lolcat. I win with the cats but have a dark aura. I get a one time kill action and am immune to night kills.


Ok so how many locats are we supposed to believe are in the game and how many with "immune to night kill" anbilities?


its getting a bit silly guys.
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Old 06-03-2008, 03:07 PM   #1521
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I am the Killer Lolcat. I win with the cats but have a dark aura. I get a one time kill action and am immune to night kills.

And I'm the Easter Bunny. Wish I had time to dig up an appropriate picture for this
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Old 06-03-2008, 03:08 PM   #1522
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Vote Nightfall

Foregone conclusion, right or wrong. We have much more things to worry about.
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Old 06-03-2008, 03:09 PM   #1523
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Oh come on, you can't sit there and say its a bad idea to get an extra day in when we know kwhit is a dog at this point? lets that waiting out of the way and work on the next day?

I generally don't like the idea of messing with the schedule of the game, yes.
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Old 06-03-2008, 03:10 PM   #1524
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And I'm the Easter Bunny. Wish I had time to dig up an appropriate picture for this

http://mine.icanhascheezburger.com/V...x?ciid=1272851




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Old 06-03-2008, 03:10 PM   #1525
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This is one of the more confusing series of posts that I've read in awhile, but I don't think it has to be hard going forward.

Everyone agrees KWhit was attacking Olie and Olie saw his as wolf. We lynch KWhit, moving right along.

Since both parties who are claiming to be bodyguards protected Oliegirl last night used their power, Olie is toast. Wolves will kill her tonight (barring a LOLcat bodyguard block).

We then move to RendeR if he is uncleared - which will be the case, barring LOLcat scan or block on Olie.

If that fails, then we go after the uncleared folks, with me very much included in that list. Jackal has done a good job of keeping this front and center, so lets not lose track of our expansive COT.

Olie is not toast -- remember, mccollins can save her tonight. If we can make sure Sea Lion and RendeR alternate, we should be golden.
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Old 06-03-2008, 03:15 PM   #1526
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I am the Killer Lolcat. I win with the cats but have a dark aura. I get a one time kill action and am immune to night kills.

when can you perform this kill?
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Old 06-03-2008, 03:17 PM   #1527
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Olie is not toast -- remember, mccollins can save her tonight. If we can make sure Sea Lion and RendeR alternate, we should be golden.

You realize how absurd this sounds from a gameplay balancing standpoint?

Something. Is. Not. As. It. Seems.
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Old 06-03-2008, 03:18 PM   #1528
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Pass, I'm hoping that McCollins can do exactly that. To some extent, I'll believe it when I see it. I've been burned by super-roles in games before, including my first one ever (either BrianD or Fouts).
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Old 06-03-2008, 03:21 PM   #1529
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You realize how absurd this sounds from a gameplay balancing standpoint?

Something. Is. Not. As. It. Seems.

I agree. Although, there's been a lot of games with two bodyguards -- IIRC correctly, RendeR's Battlestar WereWolf game had me and Narcizo as bodyguards. The seer/fool thing hurts the village, as well as one (maybe two) chihuahuas. The stray was probably intended to hurt the village, but ended up helping us. The lolcats are pretty loopy, but they have to have an attempted night-kill to activate them.
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Old 06-03-2008, 03:26 PM   #1530
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I agree. Although, there's been a lot of games with two bodyguards -- IIRC correctly, RendeR's Battlestar WereWolf game had me and Narcizo as bodyguards. The seer/fool thing hurts the village, as well as one (maybe two) chihuahuas. The stray was probably intended to hurt the village, but ended up helping us. The lolcats are pretty loopy, but they have to have an attempted night-kill to activate them.

I find it REALLY hard to believe that there would be two bodyguards in a game this size when there are people also immune to night kills, AND multiple people with the capacity to scan.

Trouble is, I don't have a clue who the liar(s) is/are. And it's making everyone a suspect, since you suspect one, there's a chain reaction of people formerly cleared.
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Old 06-03-2008, 03:27 PM   #1531
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You realize how absurd this sounds from a gameplay balancing standpoint?

Something. Is. Not. As. It. Seems.


man am I glad SOMEONE else is thinking the same thing I am....
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Old 06-03-2008, 03:29 PM   #1532
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So does anyone think it is possible Seolian converted oliegirl last night?
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Old 06-03-2008, 03:31 PM   #1533
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So does anyone think it is possible Seolian converted oliegirl last night?

Well, there's an angle I didn't think of. My line of thinking has been Seolian is Chihuaha Numero Dos.

Though there is no specified conversion ability on the dog's side.
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Old 06-03-2008, 03:33 PM   #1534
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when can you perform this kill?

Any night (one time).
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Old 06-03-2008, 03:34 PM   #1535
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Though there is no specified conversion ability on the dog's side.

not one listed anyway.

I am thinking maybe it takes 2 dogs to convert or maybe he saw sea lion and olie's original and former self.

just spitballing here.
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Old 06-03-2008, 03:35 PM   #1536
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So does anyone think it is possible Seolian converted oliegirl last night?

I'd been afraid to bring up the "c" word, but thinking it for a while. It would really make up for what's been going on.
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Old 06-03-2008, 03:36 PM   #1537
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Any night (one time).

sorry but I am calling BS.

You were squar;y on the block and didn't reveal any of this prior to the deadline.

And you had to suspect you would be scanned and come up dark so IMO you would have used your ability last night to prove it to us.
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Old 06-03-2008, 03:36 PM   #1538
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Old 06-03-2008, 03:38 PM   #1539
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I think we may have lost dang.

He was online at 1:30 today and as far as I know didn't post and didn't vote.
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Old 06-03-2008, 03:39 PM   #1540
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So does anyone think it is possible Seolian converted oliegirl last night?

Normally that stuff doesn't play with a bodyguard (RendeR, in this case) guarding a person.

Honestly, I'm not sure what to think for tomorrow's actions with all the conflicting stuff we've got right now.
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Old 06-03-2008, 04:04 PM   #1541
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Ok so how many locats are we supposed to believe are in the game and how many with "immune to night kill" anbilities?


its getting a bit silly guys.


Yeah, like how many bodyguards are we supposed to believe are in the game, too?

There are some serious shenanigans going on.
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Old 06-03-2008, 04:13 PM   #1542
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well I think the obvious move is lynch kwhit and re asess after the night phase
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Old 06-03-2008, 04:18 PM   #1543
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Old 06-03-2008, 04:22 PM   #1544
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I agree with hoopsguy and Passacaglia. Lynch KWhit today. If Render is uncleared tomorrow, lynch Render. If Render comes up kitteh, we regroup.
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Old 06-03-2008, 04:23 PM   #1545
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Okay, if everyone else votes nightfall, I will too.

VOTE NIGHTFALL
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Old 06-03-2008, 04:24 PM   #1546
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Oh, now that the vote is easy, dangarion shows up!
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Old 06-03-2008, 04:24 PM   #1547
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So does anyone think it is possible Seolian converted oliegirl last night?

I considered this, but I think its very low probability. Clap's post referenced some sort of commotion at night - I think a conversion would have inspired a different description.
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Old 06-03-2008, 04:30 PM   #1548
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Because I scanned SeaLion and he came back with a light aura, and he's revealed as the BG.

If you have a problem being called a liar, you are playing the wrong game...

We need to have nightfall, lynch Kwhit and I can scan RendeR...if he comes back Dark Aura we lynch him and have 1 more doggie to lynch for the win...

I just say we go straight for the impostor!
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Old 06-03-2008, 04:38 PM   #1549
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Old 06-03-2008, 04:42 PM   #1550
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Dan, one thing all parties agree upon is that KWhit attacked Oliegirl last night. He seems like the pretty clear choice for the next man off the boat.

If we find ourselves without any new info on RendeR, and there may be multiple avenues to get that info, then we move ahead with him tomorrow.

Slowly but surely we grind through the unknown players (you and me are both on that list, fwiw) while keeping as many of the trusted guys alive. If we are able to do this, and avoid any seismic shifts based on unknown rules in this game, then we are just about assured to get the win.
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