Werewolf XX - Of Demons and Elementals (Humans Win!) - Page 31

Poli · 01-03-2006, 08:11 PM

Sorry, I don't know much. However, I don't want to be elemental french toast either.

hoopsguy · 01-03-2006, 08:13 PM

Weird reveal by Gram. Figured if he was going to come out with something he would stick around to argue it one way or another.

Poli · 01-03-2006, 08:13 PM

Well, it won't matter much in a hour. We'll know he was full of it then.

Poli · 01-03-2006, 08:23 PM

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Originally Posted by hoopsguy

AE, does that mean you aren't going to be able to take in the football game?

Or are you getting an "extended" dinner break?

The game's after our dinner, right? I've got a tv in the office.

hoopsguy · 01-03-2006, 08:25 PM

I don't know what time it starts, but I'm guessing right around dinner time (6:30 meet, dinner sometime between 7 and 7:30).

Coffee Warlord · 01-03-2006, 08:26 PM

Dinner is about ready here, I may be a smidge late on the vote results.

Poli · 01-03-2006, 08:27 PM

It's about 15 minutes from where I work, I should be fine.

Poli · 01-03-2006, 08:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Coffee Warlord

Dinner is about ready here, I may be a smidge late on the vote results.

I think we all know who's being lynched.

Poli · 01-03-2006, 08:29 PM

BTW, I love printing out liberty cards and appliance chits. Nothing makes my day more than that.

st.cronin · 01-03-2006, 08:29 PM

That is an interesting reveal by Gram. It may well be true; I was thinking there was no role like that on the demon side, but there may be.

He is still a demon, but may be telling the truth anyway.

Grammaticus · 01-03-2006, 08:30 PM

Actually you know St. Cronin is not being truthful or Sun would have been a Human, he is just making up the conversion to cover his tracks, he has no idea. I KNOW the elementals can only win alone, which means Humans and Demons lose.

Poli · 01-03-2006, 08:31 PM

Even if there is, it's on the demon side.

Grammaticus · 01-03-2006, 08:31 PM

I KNOW that the elementals raised a person last night, that is why St. Cronin was so adament about Sun, he needed him to complete the raise. If you lynched him, he would not have been able to get the raise dead to work.

Grammaticus · 01-03-2006, 08:32 PM

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Originally Posted by ardent enthusiast

Even if there is, it's on the demon side.

Not true, it could be an elemental. Either way, you should not be so sure King is clean.

Poli · 01-03-2006, 08:32 PM

30 minutes, I can't wait.

Poli · 01-03-2006, 08:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Grammaticus

Not true, it could be an elemental. Either way, you should not be so sure King is clean.

Says the demon.

Grammaticus · 01-03-2006, 08:34 PM

Ardent, how come you are so sure I am a demon? come clean, you said you are 100% sure.

Poli · 01-03-2006, 08:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Grammaticus

Ardent, how come you are so sure I am a demon? come clean, you said you are 100% sure.

I traded for the information. It wasn't easy.

Grammaticus · 01-03-2006, 08:35 PM

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Originally Posted by ardent enthusiast

Says the demon.

I'm not a demon, but I would not tell you if I was and neither would anyone else.

YOU need to understand there is a third column in this game. Think outside the box. The Elementals win and all others lose. While humans and demons focus on each other, they skate by and clean up a victory.

Grammaticus · 01-03-2006, 08:36 PM

VOTE ST. CRONIN

Poli · 01-03-2006, 08:36 PM

I'll say this, you made it easy to choose, though, with your arrogance the other day. Choosing who I wanted info on was too easy.

Grammaticus · 01-03-2006, 08:38 PM

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Originally Posted by ardent enthusiast

I traded for the information. It wasn't easy.

That is not an answer that is any better than St. Cronin and he has already been proven to be wrong.

My point is focus on the elementals, whom you have to kill TWICE. You are wasting a lynch on me. St. Cronin is right, his team is close to victory. So close, they may win with a non elemental lynch today.

hoopsguy · 01-03-2006, 08:38 PM

Gram, do you know the elemental victory conditions?

Poli · 01-03-2006, 08:39 PM

I'm focusing my lynchs on demons...since demons are obviously focusing on killing humans at night.

Grammaticus · 01-03-2006, 08:39 PM

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Originally Posted by ardent enthusiast

I'll say this, you made it easy to choose, though, with your arrogance the other day. Choosing who I wanted info on was too easy.

Don't you get it? You are missing the real threat for all. Who told you I was a demon?

Poli · 01-03-2006, 08:39 PM

Keep talking Gramm. This is good. We need gouge on the demons before you die.

Poli · 01-03-2006, 08:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Grammaticus

Don't you get it? You are missing the real threat for all. Who told you I was a demon?

Technically, the PM I received.

Grammaticus · 01-03-2006, 08:40 PM

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Originally Posted by hoopsguy

Gram, do you know the elemental victory conditions?

The elementals need to outlast the humans and the demons. I KNOW there are now three.

Grammaticus · 01-03-2006, 08:43 PM

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Originally Posted by ardent enthusiast

Technically, the PM I received.

Yes, but where did that power come from and quite honestly, you are focusing on a game in which you are conditioned to focus on human versus demon or villager versus wolf. You were told this game is different. ELEMENTALS winning means you lose.

What is your estimate of villagers versus demon plus elemental. Remember it takes TWO kills to eliminate the elemental.

Grammaticus · 01-03-2006, 08:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ardent enthusiast

Technically, the PM I received.

Yes, but where did that power come from and quite honestly, you are focusing on a game in which you are conditioned to focus on human versus demon or villager versus wolf. You were told this game is different. ELEMENTALS winning means you lose.

What is your estimate of villagers versus demon plus elemental. Remember it takes TWO kills to eliminate the elemental. And

Grammaticus · 01-03-2006, 08:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Grammaticus

Yes, but where did that power come from and quite honestly, you are focusing on a game in which you are conditioned to focus on human versus demon or villager versus wolf. You were told this game is different. ELEMENTALS winning means you lose.

What is your estimate of villagers versus demon plus elemental. Remember it takes TWO kills to eliminate the elemental. And

And you do not know who everyone is. Bring the force onto the elementals or it will be too late.

Blade6119 · 01-03-2006, 08:46 PM

INTERESTING...now with 15 minutes left i have a decision to make

Grammaticus · 01-03-2006, 08:47 PM

At the very least force a tie, so you can try to validate a villager. WE cannot waste kills on anything other than elementals. I can tell you all of the reveals that come out are not correct. Kings to be exact. He cannot do anything for you now. I KNOW that.

saldana · 01-03-2006, 08:48 PM

not sure what to make of this whole thing..i agree with gramatticus on the fact that i think we need to pay more attention to the elementals, hence my vote staying right where it is. at worst, they are both liars.

Grammaticus · 01-03-2006, 08:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Blade6119

INTERESTING...now with 15 minutes left i have a decision to make

Understand that you have based your entire plan to lynch me on St. Cronin, who has lied (for a reason) and Ardent (Sorry if you feel you wasted a trade). Ardent who or what power told you I'm a demon?

And no one has pressed St. Cronin. Way too easy.

Blade6119 · 01-03-2006, 08:52 PM

Who was raised by the elementals, king or saldana?

Blade6119 · 01-03-2006, 08:53 PM

Dola, as of now im debating flipping it to dacman, cronin, saldana, or king...not sure if i will, but thinking fast

Grammaticus · 01-03-2006, 08:54 PM

I also have not recieved protection today (non that I am aware of). So your lynch of me, will most probably result in a clean kill. Human or Deomon listen to what I said.

Grammaticus · 01-03-2006, 08:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Blade6119

Who was raised by the elementals, king or saldana?

I don't know, but I do know the elementals caused a raising. Logic would say Saldana, but then again logic can lead to King as he seems to have perfect cover. What would you do as an elemental?

Grammaticus · 01-03-2006, 08:57 PM

I'm done, I've given you all the info I have through last night. Oh, I was unable to get anything on night 1 and I'm not sure why, because I did get info on night zero.

path12 · 01-03-2006, 08:57 PM

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Originally Posted by ardent enthusiast

Path, you'll be convinced in about 2 hours time.

That's cool. God knows I could use some certainty here.

Barkeep49 · 01-03-2006, 08:58 PM

Anyone have a vote count?

Unvote Grammaticus

I would like to force a tie as I think we come out ahead in some way as we either clear Blade or Path or Taz plus we might get a demon on top of it. Are we anywhere close to that?

hoopsguy · 01-03-2006, 08:58 PM

Interesting stuff - time check.

Coffee Warlord · 01-03-2006, 08:59 PM

1 more minute.

Barkeep49 · 01-03-2006, 08:59 PM

Vote ST. Cronin

I don't like elementals so much at this point so I'm willing to lynch him. But really what I'd like is to force a tie. I don't really believe Gram but there's enough of a doubt that I want the tie.

Blade6119 · 01-03-2006, 08:59 PM

Your role reveal was too late and too desperate...after today i might believe you if coffee describes a similar role. But you were too non-chalant this whole game, and it just cost you my support as lord

hoopsguy · 01-03-2006, 09:00 PM

Blade, hope you sent something in.

hoopsguy · 01-03-2006, 09:01 PM

Even if it was a validation duking - because I don't think we have a tie.

Grammaticus · 01-03-2006, 09:01 PM

Someone else seems to be getting info on the elementals too??

01-03-2006, 08:11 PM	#1502
Poli FOFC Survivor Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Wentzville, MO	Sorry, I don't know much. However, I don't want to be elemental french toast either. __________________ Cheer for a walk on quarterback! Ardent leads the Vols in the dynasty forum.

01-03-2006, 08:13 PM	#1504
Poli FOFC Survivor Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Wentzville, MO	Well, it won't matter much in a hour. We'll know he was full of it then. __________________ Cheer for a walk on quarterback! Ardent leads the Vols in the dynasty forum.

01-03-2006, 08:27 PM	#1508
Poli FOFC Survivor Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Wentzville, MO	It's about 15 minutes from where I work, I should be fine. __________________ Cheer for a walk on quarterback! Ardent leads the Vols in the dynasty forum.

01-03-2006, 08:29 PM	#1510
Poli FOFC Survivor Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Wentzville, MO	BTW, I love printing out liberty cards and appliance chits. Nothing makes my day more than that. __________________ Cheer for a walk on quarterback! Ardent leads the Vols in the dynasty forum.

01-03-2006, 08:29 PM	#1511
st.cronin General Manager Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: New Mexico	That is an interesting reveal by Gram. It may well be true; I was thinking there was no role like that on the demon side, but there may be. He is still a demon, but may be telling the truth anyway. __________________ co-commish: bb-bbcf.net knives out

01-03-2006, 08:06 PM	#1501
saldana Pro Starter Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Bethlehem, Pa

01-03-2006, 08:13 PM	#1503
hoopsguy General Manager Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Chicago	Weird reveal by Gram. Figured if he was going to come out with something he would stick around to argue it one way or another.

01-03-2006, 08:25 PM	#1506
hoopsguy General Manager Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Chicago	I don't know what time it starts, but I'm guessing right around dinner time (6:30 meet, dinner sometime between 7 and 7:30).

01-03-2006, 08:26 PM	#1507
Coffee Warlord Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Colorado Springs	Dinner is about ready here, I may be a smidge late on the vote results.

01-03-2006, 08:30 PM	#1512
Grammaticus Pro Rookie Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Tennessee	Actually you know St. Cronin is not being truthful or Sun would have been a Human, he is just making up the conversion to cover his tracks, he has no idea. I KNOW the elementals can only win alone, which means Humans and Demons lose.

01-03-2006, 08:31 PM	#1513
Poli FOFC Survivor Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Wentzville, MO	Even if there is, it's on the demon side. __________________ Cheer for a walk on quarterback! Ardent leads the Vols in the dynasty forum.

01-03-2006, 08:31 PM	#1514
Grammaticus Pro Rookie Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Tennessee	I KNOW that the elementals raised a person last night, that is why St. Cronin was so adament about Sun, he needed him to complete the raise. If you lynched him, he would not have been able to get the raise dead to work.

01-03-2006, 08:32 PM	#1516
Poli FOFC Survivor Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Wentzville, MO	30 minutes, I can't wait. __________________ Cheer for a walk on quarterback! Ardent leads the Vols in the dynasty forum.

01-03-2006, 08:34 PM	#1518
Grammaticus Pro Rookie Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Tennessee	Ardent, how come you are so sure I am a demon? come clean, you said you are 100% sure.

01-03-2006, 08:36 PM	#1521
Grammaticus Pro Rookie Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Tennessee	VOTE ST. CRONIN

01-03-2006, 08:36 PM	#1522
Poli FOFC Survivor Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Wentzville, MO	I'll say this, you made it easy to choose, though, with your arrogance the other day. Choosing who I wanted info on was too easy. __________________ Cheer for a walk on quarterback! Ardent leads the Vols in the dynasty forum.

01-03-2006, 08:38 PM	#1524
hoopsguy General Manager Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Chicago	Gram, do you know the elemental victory conditions?

01-03-2006, 08:39 PM	#1525
Poli FOFC Survivor Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Wentzville, MO	I'm focusing my lynchs on demons...since demons are obviously focusing on killing humans at night. __________________ Cheer for a walk on quarterback! Ardent leads the Vols in the dynasty forum.

01-03-2006, 08:39 PM	#1527
Poli FOFC Survivor Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Wentzville, MO	Keep talking Gramm. This is good. We need gouge on the demons before you die. __________________ Cheer for a walk on quarterback! Ardent leads the Vols in the dynasty forum.

01-03-2006, 08:46 PM	#1533
Blade6119 Coordinator Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Scottsdale, Arizona	INTERESTING...now with 15 minutes left i have a decision to make __________________ *Underachievement* The tallest blade of grass is the first to be cut by the lawnmower. *Despair* It's always darkest just before it goes pitch black. *Demotivation* Sometimes the best solution to morale problems is just to fire all of the unhappy people. http://www.despair.com/viewall.html

01-03-2006, 08:47 PM	#1534
Grammaticus Pro Rookie Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Tennessee	At the very least force a tie, so you can try to validate a villager. WE cannot waste kills on anything other than elementals. I can tell you all of the reveals that come out are not correct. Kings to be exact. He cannot do anything for you now. I KNOW that. Last edited by Grammaticus : 01-03-2006 at 08:47 PM.

01-03-2006, 08:48 PM	#1535
saldana Pro Starter Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Bethlehem, Pa	not sure what to make of this whole thing..i agree with gramatticus on the fact that i think we need to pay more attention to the elementals, hence my vote staying right where it is. at worst, they are both liars.

01-03-2006, 08:52 PM	#1537
Blade6119 Coordinator Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Scottsdale, Arizona	Who was raised by the elementals, king or saldana? __________________ *Underachievement* The tallest blade of grass is the first to be cut by the lawnmower. *Despair* It's always darkest just before it goes pitch black. *Demotivation* Sometimes the best solution to morale problems is just to fire all of the unhappy people. http://www.despair.com/viewall.html

01-03-2006, 08:53 PM	#1538
Blade6119 Coordinator Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Scottsdale, Arizona	Dola, as of now im debating flipping it to dacman, cronin, saldana, or king...not sure if i will, but thinking fast __________________ *Underachievement* The tallest blade of grass is the first to be cut by the lawnmower. *Despair* It's always darkest just before it goes pitch black. *Demotivation* Sometimes the best solution to morale problems is just to fire all of the unhappy people. http://www.despair.com/viewall.html

01-03-2006, 08:54 PM	#1539
Grammaticus Pro Rookie Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Tennessee	I also have not recieved protection today (non that I am aware of). So your lynch of me, will most probably result in a clean kill. Human or Deomon listen to what I said.

01-03-2006, 08:57 PM	#1541
Grammaticus Pro Rookie Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Tennessee	I'm done, I've given you all the info I have through last night. Oh, I was unable to get anything on night 1 and I'm not sure why, because I did get info on night zero.

01-03-2006, 08:58 PM	#1543
Barkeep49 Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Not too far away	Anyone have a vote count? Unvote Grammaticus I would like to force a tie as I think we come out ahead in some way as we either clear Blade or Path or Taz plus we might get a demon on top of it. Are we anywhere close to that?

01-03-2006, 08:58 PM	#1544
hoopsguy General Manager Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Chicago	Interesting stuff - time check.

01-03-2006, 08:59 PM	#1545
Coffee Warlord Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Colorado Springs	1 more minute.

01-03-2006, 08:59 PM	#1546
Barkeep49 Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Not too far away	Vote ST. Cronin I don't like elementals so much at this point so I'm willing to lynch him. But really what I'd like is to force a tie. I don't really believe Gram but there's enough of a doubt that I want the tie.

01-03-2006, 08:59 PM	#1547
Blade6119 Coordinator Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Scottsdale, Arizona	Your role reveal was too late and too desperate...after today i might believe you if coffee describes a similar role. But you were too non-chalant this whole game, and it just cost you my support as lord __________________ *Underachievement* The tallest blade of grass is the first to be cut by the lawnmower. *Despair* It's always darkest just before it goes pitch black. *Demotivation* Sometimes the best solution to morale problems is just to fire all of the unhappy people. http://www.despair.com/viewall.html

01-03-2006, 09:00 PM	#1548
hoopsguy General Manager Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Chicago	Blade, hope you sent something in.

01-03-2006, 09:01 PM	#1549
hoopsguy General Manager Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Chicago	Even if it was a validation duking - because I don't think we have a tie.

01-03-2006, 09:01 PM	#1550
Grammaticus Pro Rookie Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Tennessee	Someone else seems to be getting info on the elementals too??

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