Werewolf 40,000: The Horus Heresy CHAOS DEFEATED; MUTANTS SURVIVE

[Chief Rum]

Originally Posted by saldana

so chief rum went from complaining about not knowing who to vote for to blindly following a late run onto cronin?....you better hope cronin is bad.

I agree, but I have reason to follow grey's lead on this one, which was better than my blind pick of bulletsponge. I am hanging my fate on greyroofoo, so if he is wrong, I would be as deserving to die as he.

[bulletsponge]

damn should have picked cronin instead of swaggs

[Greyroofoo]

looks like bulletsponge is on the chopping block

I tried my best bullet

I am pleading to fouts to spare bulletsponge

[Fouts]

Originally Posted by tanglewood

FINAL Day 4 Vote Count

bulletsponge 4 - Swaggs, GoldenEagle, Fouts, Kingfc
st.cronin 4 - BrianD, Mustang, Chief Rum, Greyroofoo
Greyroofoo 1 - twothree
Chief Rum 1 - st.cronin
BrianD 1 - AlanT
Fouts 1 - saldana
Swaggs 1 - bulletsponge

Write up coming.

So, instead of saving himself by voting for cronin, bullet voted for swaggs?

[Swaggs]

Originally Posted by bulletsponge

choreographed enough to not pick the same person still leaving my neck in the rope. did i survive the vote? alot of changes at the end so im not sure

Funny that you are so defensive when I didn't name you or refer to your vote, isn't it? Are you grouping yourself with chief and grey purposely?

[bulletsponge]

yea, and i pray your ass is next, my role is obviously a villager role. and i had a seer vouching for me.

[Greyroofoo]

Originally Posted by Chief Rum

Greyroofoo, could you please state your case on those three, Fouts, st. cronin and Swaggs. I am moving on a hunch, and frankly that's not enough for me. Or why you are so sure on bullet? Do you know he is good?

I have no real information on fouts, st. cronin, and swaggs. I just know that bulletsponge is NOT chaos and I'm trying to save his hide.

[Fouts]

Originally Posted by bulletsponge

looking at the final, im the dead one. it seems fouts was hell bent on killing me, and he will look the fool once the results are in

It won't be the first time I look the fool. I have nothing to go on but everyones post. I am trying to find chaos here and would rather have killed grey, but didn't have the votes.

[Chief Rum]

Originally Posted by Greyroofoo

I have no real information on fouts, st. cronin, and swaggs. I just know that bulletsponge is NOT chaos and I'm trying to save his hide.

But I asked you for other options, and you picked those three. Surely there was a reason? While picking someone at random is better than killing a known villager, it certainly is not the best option. Do you have a gut feeling on these three? Something to go on?

[Swaggs]

Originally Posted by Fouts

It won't be the first time I look the fool. I have nothing to go on but everyones post. I am trying to find chaos here and would rather have killed grey, but didn't have the votes.

Can't you choose who you want in a tie?

[Fouts]

Originally Posted by Greyroofoo

looks like bulletsponge is on the chopping block

I tried my best bullet

I am pleading to fouts to spare bulletsponge

Whats done is done. By saying bullet is a villager, does not clear you of being chaos. I wanted to lynch you instead.

[Greyroofoo]

Originally Posted by saldana

that entire thing seemed entirely too coordinated.

if it was coordinated then bulletsponge would not be at the mercy of fouts

[kingfc22]

Originally Posted by Greyroofoo

if it was coordinated then bulletsponge would not be at the mercy of fouts

He would have been safe if I didn't change my vote.

[Greyroofoo]

Originally Posted by Chief Rum

But I asked you for other options, and you picked those three. Surely there was a reason? While picking someone at random is better than killing a known villager, it certainly is not the best option. Do you have a gut feeling on these three? Something to go on?

those 3 had votes, thus being easiest to save bullet

[Fouts]

Originally Posted by Greyroofoo

if it was coordinated then bulletsponge would not be at the mercy of fouts

You obviously know alot more than I do about who is who. If I got it wrong, so be it. I will be coming hard after you tomorrow.

[Chief Rum]

Originally Posted by Greyroofoo

if it was coordinated then bulletsponge would not be at the mercy of fouts

Ditto. This move did nothing. All it shows is that a group of loyal servants of the Emperor have seen that a good villager will die if they don't do something, and they made the effort to do it--and the villager himself ends up responsible for us death because he voted for Swaggs.

[Fouts]

Originally Posted by Greyroofoo

if it was coordinated then bulletsponge would not be at the mercy of fouts

Oh and blame bullet for not saving himself and voting for cronin.

[Greyroofoo]

i just hope fouts can be impartial and at least review past posts before he makes a decision

[tanglewood]

Another day in which new information and accusations come to light and are liberally tossed around by all towards all. At some point or another bulletsponge, st.cronin, Chief Rum and Greyroofoo all seem to be the prime candidate, but eventually it is the first two who end tied when the council come s to formally vote. Fouts once more exercises his privelige to take the ultimate decision and declares that bulletsonge shall be exececuted today.

Bullet steps forward, shaking but defiant, and declares that you are all making a horrid mistake. He is slowly brought towards the execution stand and starts shouting at the members who voted for him, "You will pay for your sins against the Emperor! If not at the hands of my Assasins, then perhaps Chaos itself will take you all. As he judges our success of the last few days, perhaps the Emperor himself will wish it upon us." He lays his head on the chopping block and the executioner, who's dress uniform is now an increasingly grisly sight, once more handles his task swiftly. The eagerness to test the body had subdued after the speech and is now positively deflated when all measures and readings show bullet to be a normal human specemin. How much longer can this blood be shed in the name of the Emperor?

Night 4 will end at 10PM EST ON SUNDAY

[Mustang]

Was already said but, it is odd that bullet voted for Swaggs and didn't save himself by voting for Cronin...

If bullet turns to be Chaos or a Mutant, would make sense that Cronin was the head of either group so, Bullet is saving his master.. so to speak.

[Swaggs]

You guys are all conveniently ignoring the fact that king made a late switch to tie it back up, or else st. cronin would have "won" the vote.

[bulletsponge]

at least i wont have to worry about killing a villager wiht my assassins now

[kingfc22]

Ughhh. Wish this tie was between BrianD and Greyroofoo.

[Fouts]

Originally Posted by Greyroofoo

i just hope fouts can be impartial and at least review past posts before he makes a decision

I went back and looked at the bullet - realdeal matchup. You, brian and mustang all had late votes to take bullet off the chopping block and kill realdeal. I based my decision on that.

[Swaggs]

Well... this seems like a good time to take a two day break because I obviously have no idea what the hell is going on...

[Mustang]

Originally Posted by Swaggs

You guys are all conveniently ignoring the fact that king made a late switch to tie it back up, or else st. cronin would have "won" the vote.

There was so much hoping around, I didn't have time to read everything that transpired. At least there is a few days now to catch back up.

[Greyroofoo]

well I hope bullet's death will at least give you some faith in me

[Fouts]

I will take the blame for bullets death.

[Greyroofoo]

i'm sorry bullet

i tried

[Chief Rum]

Originally Posted by Swaggs

You guys are all conveniently ignoring the fact that king made a late switch to tie it back up, or else st. cronin would have "won" the vote.

Are you referring to us saying how we attempted to save bullet and were foiled by king, as an attack on us who made this run (to save a good villager, I might add)? Or are you sayign this to point the finger at king, who perhaps stepped in and saved a fellow mutant or Chaos cohort at the last minute?

[Fouts]

Originally Posted by Greyroofoo

well I hope bullet's death will at least give you some faith in me

Nope. Wolves routinely clear known good people to make themselves look good. Hopefully we will get some more info on you over the weekend.

[Greyroofoo]

who here besides me KNEW that bullet was good?

[Swaggs]

Originally Posted by Fouts

Nope. Wolves routinely clear known good people to make themselves look good. Hopefully we will get some more info on you over the weekend.

Agreed. The fact that there are two bad factions really throws a wrench into trust in this game. A chaos could help nail a mutant or a mutant a chaos, but that still doesn't completely clear them. And there are other factors at work, as well, I have a feeling.

This was a well designed game, but hard as hell to play.

[bulletsponge]

voice from the grave *Me*

[Chief Rum]

Originally Posted by Greyroofoo

who here besides me KNEW that bullet was good?

I did not know. If I had, I wouldn't have voted for him. I followed you on that one on faith. So I am glad you were right, even if we failed to save him.

[Fouts]

Originally Posted by Greyroofoo

who here besides me KNEW that bullet was good?

All the Chaos.

[Swaggs]

Originally Posted by Chief Rum

Are you referring to us saying how we attempted to save bullet and were foiled by king, as an attack on us who made this run (to save a good villager, I might add)? Or are you sayign this to point the finger at king, who perhaps stepped in and saved a fellow mutant or Chaos cohort at the last minute?

It doesn't really matter at this point since bullet was obviously telling the truth and I was wrong.

[bulletsponge]

now that im dead i can play my hidden role- Brain Hungry Zombie



joking

[Greyroofoo]

all I know is that right now me and my fellow seers should probably coordinate who to scan

[Greyroofoo]

dola, all I know is that I am mad and right now there are some girls with good cleavage and beer outside my room. So I'll see ya all in a while

[Chief Rum]

Originally Posted by Swaggs

It doesn't really matter at this point since bullet was obviously telling the truth and I was wrong.

Generally true, but that doesn't mean there is nothing to take from your point there. king did come in and save st. cronin, and waffled on voting for both me and greyroofoo today, if I recall correctly. Whatever conspiracy theory is brought up, the fact is we tried to save a villager and king stopped us from doing that.

Of course, Fouts is also very prevalent here, because he was not only here and able to change his vote, but he didn't, and then put the nail in bullet's coffin personally.

[Fouts]

Twothree said he scanned Anxiety and he was abnormal.

Grey claims to be a seer, and that he scanned bullet and he was good.

Which is more trustworthy? How many games have 2 seers?

[Swaggs]

Alright fellas. My brain hurts.

I'm going to play some FOF to recover.

Have a good one.

[Fouts]

Originally Posted by Chief Rum

Generally true, but that doesn't mean there is nothing to take from your point there. king did come in and save st. cronin, and waffled on voting for both me and greyroofoo today, if I recall correctly. Whatever conspiracy theory is brought up, the fact is we tried to save a villager and king stopped us from doing that.

Of course, Fouts is also very prevalent here, because he was not only here and able to change his vote, but he didn't, and then put the nail in bullet's coffin personally.

CR, while it may look like king saved st. cronin, YOU had the lead the entire day. You and Grey voted for the same guy at the last minute, and made it look like you were saving bullet.

[Fouts]

What I don't get out of all this mess is that bullet kept begging grey to say that he was good. How does bullet know that grey scanned him.

[Fouts]

Originally Posted by Fouts

What I don't get out of all this mess is that bullet kept begging grey to say that he was good. How does bullet know that grey scanned him.

I guess grey visited him. I give up. I don't have enough abilities to be making any judgements. Later.

[Chief Rum]

Originally Posted by Fouts

CR, while it may look like king saved st. cronin, YOU had the lead the entire day. You and Grey voted for the same guy at the last minute, and made it look like you were saving bullet.

Yes, I had the lead all day, because I was at work and couldn't respond. That's some wonderful reasoning.

At least if people voted for me tomorrow after the odd events at the deadline, I could understand it.

Did you do anything to stop a lynching of a player who openly said that he wouldn't be here all day, and whom people have said there is little to no evidence against? Of course you didn't.

At least I will go to rest tonight knowing I didn't kill a good villager today. How will you rest? Oh wait, maybe you'll be just fine, eh, Chaos lord?

[Mustang]

Originally Posted by Fouts

Twothree said he scanned Anxiety and he was abnormal.

Grey claims to be a seer, and that he scanned bullet and he was good.

Which is more trustworthy? How many games have 2 seers?

My guess is there probably could be up to 3 psykers that can detect differences.

A mutant, imperial and chaos. My guess is that they can detect similar traits in trying to detect if someone is like them.

Very possible that Grey and 2-3 are 'seers'.. just one is not an imperial and one is either chaos/mutant. You can't rule out chaos just because someone is saying they are a seer because, if the mutant psyker is looking for people that are the same, maybe the demon lord is looking for the same too and in the same method as the mutant boss.. It would be just as easy to say yep.. he's good, he's good.

A chaos seer pointing out all the known good people? Granted, I would find that very risky but, hey.. anything is possible. For me.. sure would be hard to vote for someone that is pointing out good people..

[kingfc22]

Unfortunately I am in the ineviable position of trying to get a bad guy and by switching my vote late and instead a good guy dies. Of course, if Bullet wanted to save himself all he had to do is change his vote to cronin instead of swaggs.

[Greyroofoo]

ok, I guess i forgot that girls with cleavage in military dorms = gonnorea(sp?)

bullet knows that I visited him last night to reassure his faith in the emperor.

I have to visit people to work my ability