WW CXXXIX - The Red Death II - GAME OVER, SERVANTS WIN

[CrimsonFox]

holy crap we rock

[Danny]

Woot! People still think I've been converted?

[CrimsonFox]

bug and chief LEAP to mind!

[Thomkal]

And as always I am completely wrong. This time however I am not displeased.

[CrimsonFox]

*highfives THE MAN!*

[mckerney]

Not bad, happy to be wrong on that one.

[Danny]

I was pretty sure Zinto was a wolf. Sorry for starting a run on you Thomkal, I wanted to see what movement there was.

[Abe Sargent]

Due to your knowledge of the Servants you are able to research his role.



Order of Vladd, Second Rank – You are a vampire and the leader of this group of Servants of the Red Death. At night, you can be sent to either try to corrupt or to kill. During the day, just once during the game, you can Enthrall someone. That person will be forced to change their vote and will be unable to change it back. You must do this at least one hour before the deadline. You are immune to dying through any method other than via an attack on The Priest (but not a corruption) and the Sacred Flame. You cannot be identified by the Adept and you will kill the Detective if you encounter him at night spying on you. You will instantly know if you have been targeted by someone, but not who or why. You have a Night Ability, Mesmerize, which you can only use once, on Night One.

[dzilla77]

Sweet.

[Grammaticus]

Sweet

[Autumn]

I've got to go get some food. But you've got to think Zinto used the vote move ability today. And Iwonder what mesmerize does?


Jackal jumps to mind also, that late move looks like buying favor. Yes, it's the same as I did with NTN, in a way, but combined with what I consider Jackal's wish-washy behavior it didn't look good.

I think a careful examination of the vote history should tell us a lot though.

[MrBug708]

Well done!

[dzilla77]

Do we know what Mesmerize does?

[Danny]

And we just got rid of the leader!!!! Knowing he was the big baddie should definitely tell us a lot.

[Autumn]

Also, CF, you don't look good with your seeming hesitation to move to Zinto at the end.

[Autumn]

Did the descriptions of the kills suggest whether they were done by a vampire? WE might figure out if he had any conversions.

[Thomkal]

Originally Posted by Danny

I was pretty sure Zinto was a wolf. Sorry for starting a run on you Thomkal, I wanted to see what movement there was.

I was a pretty easy target for them so I really wasn't surprised with the late run on me.

[SnDvls]

Originally Posted by Danny

And we just got rid of the leader!!!! Knowing he was the big baddie should definitely tell us a lot.

Only the leader of the vamps

[Thomkal]

Originally Posted by dzilla77

Do we know what Mesmerize does?

No but I'm assuming its a conversion power of some kind.

[Danny]

Originally Posted by Abe Sargent

Order of Vladd, Second Rank and the leader of this group of Servants of the Red Death.

...

[Danny]

Well, I think I am likely dead tonight

[J23]

Originally Posted by Autumn

I've got to go get some food. But you've got to think Zinto used the vote move ability today.

I'd assume if a villager was forced to move their vote, they'd come out with it now (unless that's not allowed of course).

[CrimsonFox]

Well it's obvious Jackal, Danny, Autumn, and myself were not enthralled.

[dzilla77]

Originally Posted by Thomkal

No but I'm assuming its a conversion power of some kind.

But it must be different than corruption, since he had the ability to kill or corrupt.

Wonder if its a "possession"?

[Autumn]

So following Danny's suggestion that he moved to Thomkal to see who would follow ...

danny votes thomkal 1387
cF unvotes mrbug 1389
cf votes thomkal
jackal unvotes mrbug 1398
jackal votes thomkal 1398
j23 unvotes mrbug 1401
j23 votes zinto 1401
mrbug votes thomkal 1402
zinto unvotes eaglefan 1405
zinto votes thomkal 1405
mauboy votes thomkal 1407
danny unvotes thomkal 1417

Here is that span of time. CF, Jackal, MrBug, Zinto, Mauboy. Quite a collection of folks there. Interestingly J23 bucks that trend and goes Zinto, making him look better to me.

[dzilla77]

Any ideas on an exorcist candidate, I think Danny's probably off the list. CF is still high there

[Autumn]

Originally Posted by dzilla77

Any ideas on an exorcist candidate, I think Danny's probably off the list. CF is still high there

CF, or Dubb would come to mind for me, people who they may have thought would get credit for thier late votes.

[CrimsonFox]

Originally Posted by Autumn

Also, CF, you don't look good with your seeming hesitation to move to Zinto at the end.

It was 10-9 Thomkal when I moved my vote. That is HARDLY a hesitation. I went back to Thomkal after j23 because I wanted to keep things close to see if there was more movement. I preferred Zinto over Thomkal but really did not mind if there was a tie. Once Chief made it 10-9 Thomkal instead of the 9-9 that he made it, I switched to zinto.

[MrBug708]

I picked thmkal mostly cuz he had voted for me first

[Chief Rum]

It might be just a way of stopping another player from making a move. Of course, I presume this woul dbe obvious to the target, and they would have said so yesterday (Day 2).

[Autumn]

And looking at the rest of the night, from when Danny switched back off of Thomkal ...

danny votes zinto 1417
dzilla votes thomkal 1431
mckerney votes thomkal 1438
danny unvotes zinto 1442
danny votes j23 1442
crimson fox unvotes thomkal 1445
cf votes j23 1445
thomkal unvotes mrbug 1468
thomkal votes zinto 1468
danny unvotes J23 1472
danny votes zinto 1472
autumn unvotes J23 1478
autumn votes zinto 1478
CF unvotes J23 1484
CF votes thomkal 1484
RA votes thomkal 1494
chief votes thomkal 1523
CF unvotes thomkal 1526
CF votes zinto 1526
jackal unvotes thomkal 1533
jackal votes zinto 1533

Dzilla and Mckerney continue the pile onto Thomkal. I thought that CF had said he would be voting Zinto, like Danny and I, but then he goes to Thomkal instead. RA and Chief look bad there as well. Pretty big list of suspects, unfortunately, just looking at the votes, probably some post analysis would be good.

[Chief Rum]

Originally Posted by CrimsonFox

bug and chief LEAP to mind!

I didn't exactly vote to save Zinto. I was looking to tie it up and kill them both off.

[SnDvls]

Originally Posted by CrimsonFox

Well it's obvious Jackal, Danny, Autumn, and myself were not enthralled.

I would put almost all the zinto voters in that group too as he would have forced a move off

[J23]

Originally Posted by Autumn

Interestingly J23 bucks that trend and goes Zinto, making him look better to me.

[Autumn]

And then these are the beginning votes on Zinto:

danny votes zinto 1305
commo votes zinto 1322
sndvls unvotes EF 1325
hoops votes zinto 1345
J23 votes mrbug 1347
Sndvls votes zinto 1351
zinto votes eaglefan 1372
dubb votes zinto 1375
grammaticus votes zinto 1380


Lots of pretty solid votes here. Might have been a wolf there at some point trying to look good, but it seems there were plenty of opportunities for people to go elsewhere if they had wanted.

[CrimsonFox]

Originally Posted by Autumn

And looking at the rest of the night, from when Danny switched back off of Thomkal ...

danny votes zinto 1417
dzilla votes thomkal 1431
mckerney votes thomkal 1438
danny unvotes zinto 1442
danny votes j23 1442
crimson fox unvotes thomkal 1445
cf votes j23 1445
thomkal unvotes mrbug 1468
thomkal votes zinto 1468
danny unvotes J23 1472
danny votes zinto 1472
autumn unvotes J23 1478
autumn votes zinto 1478
CF unvotes J23 1484
CF votes thomkal 1484
RA votes thomkal 1494
chief votes thomkal 1523
CF unvotes thomkal 1526
CF votes zinto 1526
jackal unvotes thomkal 1533
jackal votes zinto 1533

Dzilla and Mckerney continue the pile onto Thomkal. I thought that CF had said he would be voting Zinto, like Danny and I, but then he goes to Thomkal instead. RA and Chief look bad there as well. Pretty big list of suspects, unfortunately, just looking at the votes, probably some post analysis would be good.

and I did. Just not when you assumed I was going to. I don't have to follow you guys around everywhere. You're not my mom!

[Autumn]

I understand your argument, CF, but you have to admit it looks odd. You followed Danny almost immediately any time he switched votes, said you were going to vote Zinto, and then when it came time to, you didn't. He turned up to be a wolf. You have to see how that *could* look like you were hoping things would go to Thomkal instead.

[Danny]

Commo and Hoops both look good, a wolf probably just lets the one or two lone votes toil and helps set a different second candidate to Mr. Bug

[dzilla77]

Alright, off to bed. Exorcism order entered, but I won't reveal who until tomorrow. If I don't make it through the night, you can bet I was getting close.

[Danny]

Probably sndvls too, though anything after may have been buying trust as he was the primary candidate that point. Did anyone switch off Zinto to Thomkal when the tides changed?

[Autumn]

I should go through and figure out how many votes people ahd at each vote to make that easy to figure out, but can't tnihgt.

[Autumn]

You were the only person today Danny to ever unvote Zinto and go to Thomkal ;-)

[Danny]

haha, ok . Then I have to think all of the zinto voters are either villagers, not aware Zinto was a fellow wolf (doubt this) or didn't get back on in the last hour of deadline.

[Thomkal]

So who do we think is mostly likely to be a Servant based on the day 1 vote when ntn, a Servant, got lynched, and this vote when another Servant got lynched?

[Autumn]

Originally Posted by Thomkal

So who do we think is mostly likely to be a Servant based on the day 1 vote when ntn, a Servant, got lynched, and this vote when another Servant got lynched?

I think with conversions on the table we kind of have to look at each day separately. Someone who looked great day one would be a perfect person to convert.

[Danny]

Day 1

Dubb 1 - thomkal
NTN 9 - grammaticus, Danny, Commo, bhlloy, mauboy. j23, RaidersArmy, CF, Autumn
Mauboy 4 - hoops, chief rum, Eaglefan, mckerney
J23 6 - zinto, sndvls, saldana, jackal, Lathum, dubb
Bhlloy 1 - ntndeacon
Lathum 1 - narc
crimson fox 1 - mrbug

thomkal votes dubb 83
dzilla votes ntn 84
ntn votes mauboy 88
narc votes mrbug 105
autumn votes J23 116
EF votes danny 117
jackal votes danny 123
bhlloy votes dubb 125
commo votes bhlloy 127
hoops votes mauboy 129
sndvls votes jackal 141
lathum votes danny 142
narc unvotes mrbug 154
narc votes jackal 154
mauboy votes lathum 164
narc unvotes jackal 167
narc votes lathum 167
dubb votes lathum 170
saldana votes dubb 171
saldana unvotes dubb 173
zinto votes J23 178
jackal unvotes danny 199
jackal votes bhlloy 199
J23 votes bhlloy 212
Sndvls unvotes Jackal 213
mckerney votes bhlloy 222
Sndvls votes J23 225
CF votes mauboy 233
grammaticus votes ntn 236
saldana votes J23 242
mrbug votes CF 244
ntn unvotes mauboy 248
ntn votes bhlloy 248
dubb unvotes lathum 249
dubb votes bhlloy 249
mauboy unvotes lathum 250
mauboy votes dubb 250
chief rum votes mauboy 254
((bhlloy reveals as keeper)) 275
bhlloy unvotes dubb 275
bhlloy votes mauboy 275
jackal unvotes bhlloy 281
jackal votes mauboy 283
ef unvotes danny 287
ef votes mauboy 287
jackal unvotes mauboy 296
jackal votes J23 296
danny votes ntn 297
CF unvotes mauboy 306
CF votes J23 306
Lahtum unvotes danny 310
lathum votes J23 310
commo unvotes bhlloy 318
mckerney unvotes bhlloy 329
mckerney votes mauboy 329
commo votes ntn 334
J23 unvotes bhalloy 352
J23 votes mauboy 354
bhlloy unvotes mauboy 357
bhlloy votes ntn 357
mauboy unvotes dubb 361
mauboy votes ntn 361
j23 unvotes mauboy 364
j23 votes ntn 364
dzilla unvotes ntn 377
dubb unvotes bhlloy 386
RA votes ntn 390
CF unvotes J23 393
CF votes ntn 393
dubb votes J23 400
autumn unvotes J23
autumn votes ntn

[Danny]

Day 2

saldana 9 - eaglefan (662) SnDvls (789) mauboy (851) crimsonfox (861) mckerney (874) chief rum (1054) Lathum (1080) jackal (1088) commo (1107)
mckerney 2 - narcizo (645) mrbug (758)
lathum 6 - dubb (660) raiders (794) thomkal (905) danny (1018) hoops (1083) grammaticus (1108)
jackal 5 - autumn (843) saldana (921) dzilla (991) j23 (993) zinto (1095)
autumn 1 -

RA votes Dzilla 568
jackal votes saldana 594
grammaticus votes dzilla 599
lathum votes dubb 601
saldana votes mauboy 602
mauboy votes dubb 611
commo votes dzilla 612
danny votes autumn 634
Narcizo votes mckerney 645
zinto votes jackal 654
dubb votes lathum 660
EF votes saldana 662
autumn votes mckerney 665
sndvls votes dzilla 669
crimsonfox votes saldana 674
danny unvotes autumn 684
hoops votes mckerney 693
zinto unvotes jackal 698
danny votes mrbug 702
saldana unvotes mauboy 710
saldana votes dzilla 710
jackal unvotes saldana 719
jackal votes mckerney 719
RA unvotes dzilla 720
RA votes dzilla 738
jackal unvotes mckerney 742
jackal votes dzilla 742
mckerney votes dzilla 743
CF unvotes saldanda 750
CF votes mrbug 750
danny unvotes mrbug 751
danny votes mckerney 751
danny unvotes mckerney 752
danny votes mrbug 752
((dzilla reveals as exorcist)) 753
mrbug votes mckerney 758
saldana unvotes dzilla 759
saldana votes jackal 759
jackal unvotes dzilla 764
jackal votes bug 764
commo unvotes dzilla 766
commo votes mckerney 766
jackal unvotes mrbug 768
jackal votes lathum 768
mckerney nvotes dzilla 771
mckerney votes mrbug 771
danny unvotes mrbug 772
danny votes lathum 772
grammaticus unvotes dzilla 779
grammaticus votes autumn 779
sndvls unvotes dzilla 789
sndvls votes saldana 789
dzilla votes mckerney 790
RA unvotes dzilla 794
RA votes lathum 794
mauboy unvotes dubb 809
CF unvotes mrbug 820
CF votes autumn 820
CF unvotes autumn 841
autumn unvotes mckerney 843
autumn votes jackal 843
mauboy votes saldana 851
lathum unvotes dubb 860
lathum votes saldana 860
cF votes saldana 861
hoops unvotes mckerney 864
dzilla unvotes mckerney 867
dzilla votes saldana 867
mckerney unvotes mrbug 874
mckerney votes saldana 874
saldana unvotes jackal 894
saldana votes lathum 894
thomkal votes lathum 905
commo unvotes mckerney 908
commo votes jackal 908
saldana unvotes lathum 921
saldana votes jackal 921
hoops votes sndvls 928
dzilla unvotes saldana 933
danny unvotes lathum 938
danny votes sndvls 938
jackal unvotes lathum 945
jackal votes sndvls 945
zinto votes jackal 950
jackal unvotes sndvls 967
jackal votes lathum 967
jackal unvotes lahtum
jackal votes mckerney
jackal unvotes mckerney
jackal votes saldana
jackal unvotes saldana
jackal votes lathum
jackal unvotes lathum 980
jackal votes saldana 980
dzilla votes jackal 991
J23 votes jackal 993
jackal unvotes saldana 1000
jackal votes lathum 1000
lathum unvotes saldana 1012
lathum votes jackal 1012
danny unvotes sndvls 1018
danny votes lathum 1018
lathum unvotes jackal 1022
lathum votes saldana 1022
lathum unvotes saldana 1023
lathum votes jackal 1023
chief votes saldana 1054
jackal unvotes lathum 1063
jackal votes saldana 1063
jackal unvotes saldana 1066
jackal votes lathum 1066
lathum unvotes jackal 1080
lathum votes saldana 1080
zinto unvotes jackal 1082
zinto votes lathum 1082
hoops uvnotes sndvls 1083
hoops votes lathum 1083
jackal unvotes lathum 1088
jckal votes saldana 1088
zinto unvotes lathum 1095
zinto votes jackal 1095
commo unvotes jackal 1107
commo votes saldana 1107
grammaticus unvotes autumn 1108
grammaticus votes lathum 1108

[EagleFan]

Well done. My wolfdar must not be working as I didn't see it. Though I still think Thom may be a wolf too. There didn't seem to be any movement to try to save Zinto at all.

[Autumn]

Note DAnny if you're going to repost, there's a mistake at the end of my Day 3 vote history where CF unvotes thomkal and votes for thomkal. Should be Zinto obviously.

[Danny]

Zinto with a day 1 vote on J23 and day 2 late vote on Jackal. I dont think he places an early day 1 vote on a fellow wolf and never changes it. I also don't think he puts the Jackal vote on day 1 if Jackal is a wolf. Additionally, because both players got heat the first couple days, they are unlikely conversion targets. Along with their votes today, I feel very confident both J23 and Jackal are villagers.