Werewolf XLIII - The Big City (Game over)

[hoopsguy]

Originally Posted by Swaggs

Hoops, as judge, did you receive some sort of report back from my investigation?

Negative, I have not received any kind of report back. Which forced my hand, to some extent, with the warrants I issued today. I'm hoping that by the end of Day 4 to have a better feel for how this whole detective/judge process is supposed to work.

[Dr. Sak]

No one has come into my shop and bought a gun outright. That's not to say they didn't buy one on the underground.

[Swaggs]

Originally Posted by hoopsguy

Negative, I have not received any kind of report back. Which forced my hand, to some extent, with the warrants I issued today. I'm hoping that by the end of Day 4 to have a better feel for how this whole detective/judge process is supposed to work.

Well, that stinks. I was hoping to have earned some trust by now.

[path12]

We may only be down to one detective if Tyrith was right about three (and if he was able to perform detective duty as the dispatcher).

[path12]

Which leads me to a question: If a detective is killed, does that mean that there is a job position open that someone could apply for?

[Swaggs]

I got the feeling that Tyrith was the dispatcher, rather than one of the detectives. And, he had indicated, at one point I believe, that there were two others detectives besides ntn.

I am going on the assumption that we still have two detectives remaining.

[LoneStarGirl]

Do we have an updated list of what we can buy at the store?

[Lathum]

Originally Posted by bsak16

No one has come into my shop and bought a gun outright. That's not to say they didn't buy one on the underground.

i find this unlikely unless someone started the game with 2 guns

[Dr. Sak]

Originally Posted by Lathum

i find this unlikely unless someone started the game with 2 guns

I have sold a few guns outside of the pawn shop. I have no control over who gets them after that point. Don't forget that when someone buys something from anyone in the underground there is no idea to track who it is unless you know their user #, but if they buy it from the Pawn Shop I know exactly who it is.

[Lathum]

Originally Posted by bsak16

I have sold a few guns outside of the pawn shop. I have no control over who gets them after that point. Don't forget that when someone buys something from anyone in the underground there is no idea to track who it is unless you know their user #, but if they buy it from the Pawn Shop I know exactly who it is.

so you have access to guns?

interesting

[Dr. Sak]

Originally Posted by Lathum

so you have access to guns?

interesting

Way to go Captain Obvious!

[Lathum]

Originally Posted by bsak16

Way to go Captain Obvious!

well IMO it is a good point to bring up since tyrith was shot...

[Dr. Sak]

Originally Posted by Lathum

well IMO it is a good point to bring up since tyrith was shot...

You will be eating a lot of crow when it is found that I am clean. So I would be careful how far you push it or you are going to look pretty guilty.

[Alan T]

Originally Posted by SnDvls

are you sure sentenced guilty the rules just say sentenced by the judge?

Alan can you help us here with this one.

The judge can sentence someone who is arrested, or he can rule they are innocent.. or he can let them sit with no ruling pending further investigation. However due process requires people that are arrested to be dealt with in a reasonable amount of time.

[Lathum]

Originally Posted by bsak16

You will be eating a lot of crow when it is found that I am clean. So I would be careful how far you push it or you are going to look pretty guilty.

why is that

it's not like you have given us any good information and your actions have been pretty suspiscous up to this point.

[Dr. Sak]

Originally Posted by Lathum

why is that

it's not like you have given us any good information and your actions have been pretty suspiscous up to this point.

Well if there is allowed to be conversion in this game and you are a mob member, you just sent a lot of resources to investigate me and not someone else. Plus you are going to get a lot of votes to swing my way in the lynching. Which is what the mob would want right now because they are short two people and want some time to coax a few others to join them.

[SnDvls]

Originally Posted by Alan T

The judge can sentence someone who is arrested, or he can rule they are innocent.. or he can let them sit with no ruling pending further investigation. However due process requires people that are arrested to be dealt with in a reasonable amount of time.

so does the judge determine their guilt?
or is their guilt determined by the evidence?

[Alan T]

Originally Posted by SnDvls

so does the judge determine their guilt?
or is their guilt determined by the evidence?

The judge determines the guilt and sentences based on whatever they feel like it. A judge likely assumes a police detective won't arrest someone who doesn't have evidence backing it however.

Also a rogue judge that has their own agenda likely will be dealt with by the mob.

So all kinds of ways to prove your anger.

[Lathum]

Originally Posted by bsak16

Well if there is allowed to be conversion in this game and you are a mob member, you just sent a lot of resources to investigate me and not someone else. Plus you are going to get a lot of votes to swing my way in the lynching. Which is what the mob would want right now because they are short two people and want some time to coax a few others to join them.

what does one have to do with the other?

and if the detectives are investigating you it is because of your actions last night, you started this, not me.

[Dr. Sak]

Originally Posted by Lathum

what does one have to do with the other?

and if the detectives are investigating you it is because of your actions last night, you started this, not me.

You were a big part of pushing them to investigate me. Diversion my friend...

[path12]

I think we're off on all kinds of tangents here. First of all, we should try and see if we can replace the key positions we've lost. Does anyone have the ability to post a job opening? If so that person should do so in order to try and get replacements for our detective and dispatcher. We need as much manpower in the police area as possible in order to get all the investigations done properly.

[Lathum]

Originally Posted by bsak16

You were a big part of pushing them to investigate me. Diversion my friend...

how do you figure?

You came out attacking me about what I purchased, forcing me to reveal informaion I didn't want to. At a key time when we were discussing a lynch. Please point out where I pushed anyone in your direction.

[hoopsguy]

I'm beginning to wonder just what the heck our detectives are doing. I've issued three different warrants and haven't seen anything to suggest any action behind them. If I'm pushing for the wrong people, then I would love for some of the others to offer up alternatives towards the end of the day, giving me a chance to consider their choices.

I'm guessing that our City is like a lot of metropolitan areas that offer "diversions" for people on a Friday night, so we may not have too much time left to discuss current affairs between now and the weekend.

ooc: I'm out this evening for birthday stuff, very limited access (if any) after 5PM CS.

[Dr. Sak]

Actually Lathum you were the one that offered up first that you bought a knife.

[Abe Sargent]

Originally Posted by Lathum

how do you figure?

You came out attacking me about what I purchased, forcing me to reveal informaion I didn't want to. At a key time when we were discussing a lynch. Please point out where I pushed anyone in your direction.

This may seem really wierd, but can I get access to your house?

[Abe Sargent]

Or bsak, just came back, how about you. Can I get access to your house?

[Lathum]

Originally Posted by Anxiety

This may seem really wierd, but can I get access to your house?

do you mean are you able to or will I allow you to?

[Abe Sargent]

Will you allow me to? You can be there while I'm there.

[Abe Sargent]

Heya st cronin! I woulda asked you, but you know, you're dead and a bad guy.

[Lathum]

yes, by all means you can. Just bring some beer

[Abe Sargent]

Thanks, you really wont regret this!

[Lathum]

Originally Posted by bsak16

Actually Lathum you were the one that offered up first that you bought a knife.

that isn't how the exchange happened at all.

I said the day before I bought the knife. Post 1330 bsak says:

Would you like people to know about the weapons you are stocking up on?

since I already told everyone I was buying A knife, how is that stockpiling? Of course I am gonna take it as being suspiscous. Compount that with the fact he voted marathoner and he was trying to deflect attention from DT and shift it in me he doesn't look to good.

[Lathum]

Originally Posted by Anxiety

Thanks, you really wont regret this!

of course not, I have nothing to hide.

[Narcizo]

Originally Posted by hoopsguy

I'm beginning to wonder just what the heck our detectives are doing.

Swaggs claimed that a detective came to him and took evidence. I'm guessing the detective is someone with limited access to the game, and that there's only one.

Of course they might have been rubbed out already today and we wouldn't know about it yet. If that's the case then the mob have a very good bead on who the police are.

I'm not going to be able to be around much more. I'll keep my vote on ImTheCrew for now. I think he's been acting suspiciously from day one and I don't really have another candidate - although with the lack of policing it looks like we can't rely on Marathoner being arrested and we might have to lynch him instead. Hope we get an update on that situation before I have to go.

[Narcizo]

Nothing more to add then. If we don't get an arrest of Marathoner I'd say people should vote for him but I'll keep my vote where it is.

[Blade6119]

So swaggs, LSG...where did your actions go today. I have yet to send mine in, and dont want to overlap. I know swaggs sent his in last night, so he has his results back.

Im considering anxiety right now to be honest...i think ill go back and look at just who was pushing him for judge on day 1

[kingfc22]

Blade - Nice job calling a spade a spade so far. 2 in a row this early is very good.

So bsak is the pawn shop owner. His actions have been fairly suspect especially yesterday. However, I want to see what info the warrants bring out today before I vote.

[Alan T]

The Big City Herald
Edition 18

Pawn Shop Raided!

Word has reached the herald that earlier today the police raided the local big city pawn shop. We aren't sure exactly what was being looked for, but an inside source stated that they were looking for something that connected the pawnshop to the notorious Big City crime family. When we asked for a comment from the detectives, they told us that they had in fact served the pawn shop with a search order and took some evidence back to police headquarters, but there were no arrests made at this time.

Miracle doctor heals judge

Whatever all of those pills that our faithful judge has been taking are, they seem to be working. Earlier today some unknown doctor paid our judge a visit and it was only a matter of time before he was seen walking back into the courthouse once again full of life and vigor.

Big City on ice

Later tonight Big City welcomes a rematch of Anaheim vs San Jose in ice hockey. They faced off here earlier in the week, but the game received so little publication that very few people even went. Tonight the rematch seems personal and much more likely to draw a crowd. We have also been told that before the game the national anthem will be sung by Rosanne Barr.

[Lathum]

Jonathan Ezarik

been way to UTR for him

[Lathum]

should read

VOTE Jonathan Ezarik

[Blade6119]

Interestingly enough, anxiety annonced his judgeship canidacy in response to a cronin post...#103 to be exact...lets see what else there is, but thats interesting

[Blade6119]

JE did some subtle defending of cronin early day one, and chief has stated he is independent(like bsak)...just some notes as im reading

[Abe Sargent]

Blade, seriously, if you are looking for bad, make sure you look fo rhte good too. Like, the fact that I was online whe st.cronin was going down and chose not to hop to you like everybody else was doing. COulda done it and hidden in a crowd at the same time - I did not.

Or the fact that I have an uncontroverted claim of being abducted by the mafia.

And remember that judges get more scrunity from seer rules than others. Why would a mafia person want to be judge? They want no one to be judge, which is what they got Day One, in part because you didn;t throw your suport behind another candidate and in part because hoops pushed for DT.

Sure, I could be a clever wolf who hurt his mafia boss by not making a move that could have been hidden, while also creating a story that could have been proven false by a police investigation, or I could just be me. One's a lot more likely than the other.

[Abe Sargent]

This post is design to clear me later if I need to. Something amazing just happened!!!

[Lathum]

Originally Posted by Anxiety

This post is design to clear me later if I need to. Something amazing just happened!!!

did you like what you saw?

[Blade6119]

Both DT and Cronin were pretty supportive of chief and his gambling...

#333 and #335, respectively, they both lavish praise on chief

[Blade6119]

Originally Posted by Anxiety

Blade, seriously, if you are looking for bad, make sure you look fo rhte good too. Like, the fact that I was online whe st.cronin was going down and chose not to hop to you like everybody else was doing. COulda done it and hidden in a crowd at the same time - I did not.

Or the fact that I have an uncontroverted claim of being abducted by the mafia.

And remember that judges get more scrunity from seer rules than others. Why would a mafia person want to be judge? They want no one to be judge, which is what they got Day One, in part because you didn;t throw your suport behind another candidate and in part because hoops pushed for DT.

Sure, I could be a clever wolf who hurt his mafia boss by not making a move that could have been hidden, while also creating a story that could have been proven false by a police investigation, or I could just be me. One's a lot more likely than the other.

lol anxiety, im just looking around...i have no explanation for why you are entering lathum's house, so until i do i have to theorize good and bad reasons. Im re-reading the early days, mostly looking at posts and interactions cronin/DT were involved in...im also reading a few other players of interest, but im just connecting dots

[Lathum]

I can tell you why he entered but I would rather wait and see what he has to say

[Abe Sargent]

Yeah, I'm waiting on AlanT to make a post, and then all will be revealed, and Blade will look very silly too. A fine Friday! (just kidding Blades)

[Blade6119]

Cronin and DT both were very in favor of voting both tyrith and Barkeep...and later cronin went after LSG, and DT went after ntndeacon.

Side note, lathum went after LSG back on day one too, and im noting it since he just voted him again