WW CLVII - Ghostbusters - Game Over (result in post 1521)

[mauchow]

Good to hear.. That was what I was most nervous about when Lathum and I decided to make the switch in the last half hour.

[KatyLied]

Originally Posted by mauchow

Deep down you knew you were the Gatekeeper so you didn't want to push it

Man! I was so looking forward to my first time being a dirty dirty wolf and I didn't even know it was happening.

[Autumn]

Originally Posted by KatyLied

i would just like to note, for the record, my ability to smell a rat (even when I am one).

Trouble is you didn't realize Latham always smells like a rat! Good job there. I didn't suspect Lathum at all until this weekend.

[Autumn]

Originally Posted by mauchow

Good to hear.. That was what I was most nervous about when Lathum and I decided to make the switch in the last half hour.

Yeah in retrospect I should have put in a conditional to duke to Katy if it moved from her. I wasn't that sold on her, but it would have saved us.

[hoopsguy]

Originally Posted by mauchow

We NK'd you hoops because we saw you were on the right track way too many times. Killing you and Danny on the same die I think was a massive analysis blow for the village.

Yeah, I was surprised at it because (in my mind, at the time) it seemed like you were foregoing shots at both roles and conversions. However, after learning how the mechanics worked it made more sense to me.

Good job staying out of the limelight, mau.

I said it in the other thread, but I hate the way that Pass played this game. It is one thing when someone is playing their first game and is quiet as they get the feel for things. But Pass didn't even engage in the game, and that just creates situations that are really frustrating for the group ... whack someone because they are quiet, because they are playing against type, etc. Anyway, just hate seeing experienced players in that mode.

Thanks to JAG for running what seems to have been a really well structured game. Even if Peck wasn't in there and it was a role that I was meant to have (sob).

[JAG]

Originally Posted by Autumn

However, I'm not feeling solid about this vote. I feel like Mau and Pass have fallen off the radar completely, and I'm worried about them. Bhlloy I had not had on my list previously, but now i need to look back and see what was posted earlier about him.

Originally Posted by Autumn

Checking back in. Going to move to my strongest hunch at this point based on vote analysis, PF's posts, and today's votes.

UNVOTE KATYLIED
VOTE MAUCHOW

Originally Posted by Autumn

This makes me both feel better about Bhlloy and less good at Passacaglia (whose vote on PF bhlloy was referring to). As bhlloy points out, Pass made it sound like there were only two choices and went with PF. At this point I'm considering his vote, Mauchow's and Zinto's on PF as the most suspicious as I think the wolves would probably have been pushing PF at this point.

Yeah, I thought Autumn had some good reads, but it was like he was talking to empty air. I don't think he got a whit of traction, except for mau agreeing with him on Pass (woohoo).

[mauchow]

I always included pass in something of my little-to-no analysis.

[Autumn]

Katylied, I like how you got engaged today. It made me feel better about you, but at this stage I figured it could just be a wolf coaching you to get vocal. I hope you'll stay as vocal next game. You had great reads.

[britrock88]

I enjoyed seeing Katy triple her post count over the weekend.

[mauchow]

Thanks again JAG for the game. Thanks for letting me be a wolf in all your games.

[Autumn]

Yeah as I said earlier, I was going to be annoyed if Pass was a wolf, and I am. It's just no fun to be forced to guess if inactive players are wolves.

[KatyLied]

Originally Posted by Autumn

Katylied, I like how you got engaged today. It made me feel better about you, but at this stage I figured it could just be a wolf coaching you to get vocal. I hope you'll stay as vocal next game. You had great reads.

Awww, that's sweet. I'm gonna try - ask Britrock - I'm kinda obsessed with this game, I'm just pulled into a lot of different directions these days. But I guess I just have to make time for WW.

[fontisian]

Sees no reactiom to question. Segues into an explanation anyway.

So, quicktopics are what my other mafia site uses for wolf conversations and, occasionally, for every player to document thier thoughts or ask questions. They're only viewable if you have the link, so their great for the end of the game if players want to look back and see the reasoning behind wolf and power role decisions.

Example: Mini Mafia #2 - QuickTopic free message board hosting

[hoopsguy]

Originally Posted by fontisian

Sees no reactiom to question. Segues into an explanation anyway.

So, quicktopics are what my other mafia site uses for wolf conversations and, occasionally, for every player to document thier thoughts or ask questions. They're only viewable if you have the link, so their great for the end of the game if players want to look back and see the reasoning behind wolf and power role decisions.

Example: Mini Mafia #2 - QuickTopic free message board hosting

Hmm, looks kind of cool. I know back in the day I used to have IM conversations with the other wolves and send copies of the transcripts to the moderator to keep them in the loop. As moderator, I normally export copies of PMs before I export them. But if there was something that made this process automatic rather than manual, that would be great.

[Passacaglia]

Originally Posted by hoopsguy

Yeah, I was surprised at it because (in my mind, at the time) it seemed like you were foregoing shots at both roles and conversions. However, after learning how the mechanics worked it made more sense to me.

Good job staying out of the limelight, mau.

I said it in the other thread, but I hate the way that Pass played this game. It is one thing when someone is playing their first game and is quiet as they get the feel for things. But Pass didn't even engage in the game, and that just creates situations that are really frustrating for the group ... whack someone because they are quiet, because they are playing against type, etc. Anyway, just hate seeing experienced players in that mode.

Thanks to JAG for running what seems to have been a really well structured game. Even if Peck wasn't in there and it was a role that I was meant to have (sob).

That's understandable -- I didn't have the time to engage in this game like I usually do in games. It was probably a bad idea to join with my schedule the way it is, but the theme drew me in. If it's any consolation, my fellow wolves probably had a similar frustration -- there must have been hundreds of PMs going back and forth, and I sent like 5.

[JAG]

Originally Posted by fontisian

Sees no reactiom to question. Segues into an explanation anyway.

So, quicktopics are what my other mafia site uses for wolf conversations and, occasionally, for every player to document thier thoughts or ask questions. They're only viewable if you have the link, so their great for the end of the game if players want to look back and see the reasoning behind wolf and power role decisions.

Example: Mini Mafia #2 - QuickTopic free message board hosting

Pretty cool. That's something I would enjoy having.

[hoopsguy]

Yep, know you usually do in games. I think the "Hello" posts suggested that you were around, but choosing not to participate a good chunk of the time. That was where I started getting agitated as a reader ... think I was dead by the time that started happening with some frequency.

Anyway, I completely get the "life happens" part of it, having some level of remorse once starting, etc. Have found myself in similar spots with other games over the years. I know it isn't your MO, and no hard feelings on my end for future games. Just raising it in post-game because it was something that applied to this game, and a situation that every once in a blue moon does come up in games overall. So when I go on a rant of "lynch the quiet ones" I'll reference this game as "Exhibit A"

[fontisian]

Ugh, I misused their.

[britrock88]

Originally Posted by fontisian

Ugh, I misused their.

The game is over, y'know. We might not mind an edited post all that much.

[fontisian]

Too late, it's already quoted twice.

[Coffee Warlord]

Yeah, beyond PF, my mojo was completely lacking this game. Granted, you don't analyze quite as deeply when you're long dead, but I didn't have a bloody clue who was who.

[Coffee Warlord]

But since you bastards offed me and I'm a vengeful ghost, looks like I won anyway.

[Coffee Warlord]

And I call it now. I'll go laid back next time and people will wanna off me early for not talking enough.

[EagleFan]

Holy crap, this one is over already? I;ll post a signup and we'll get started on Monday the 25th (will be out of town for work at the end of this week for two days).

[hoopsguy]

Well, I think this marks the end of my mini-return ... at least, I sort of hope it does. I started a new job at the end of January, but it got off to a bit of a slow start in terms of getting me assigned to a project. But April is all booked up, so hopefully I'm too busy to be spending time in these threads during the day

Will follow along upcoming games and jump back in when opportunity presents itself. Enjoyed the medium/large games we've had in March and hope that the activity level on this forum remains high. Finally, hope some of the newer players continue to get acclimated and assert themselves in these threads. Would be nice to see folks push Danny and Lathum around a bit

[EagleFan]

Originally Posted by hoopsguy

Well, I think this marks the end of my mini-return ... at least, I sort of hope it does. I started a new job at the end of January, but it got off to a bit of a slow start in terms of getting me assigned to a project. But April is all booked up, so hopefully I'm too busy to be spending time in these threads during the day

Will follow along upcoming games and jump back in when opportunity presents itself. Enjoyed the medium/large games we've had in March and hope that the activity level on this forum remains high. Finally, hope some of the newer players continue to get acclimated and assert themselves in these threads. Would be nice to see folks push Danny and Lathum around a bit

Oh sure, now you stop...

[Narcizo]

Gah!

Good work Lathum. You had me completely fooled - I thought you were the duke, as you seemed a lock for the person Hoops would scan. Not my finest hour I have to say. I don't know what it was about the game but I just couldn't seem to engage in what people were actually saying. Didn't help that I was semi-sick for most of the time. Urgh! Pass, mau and Lathum. I'd never have got there in a looong time.

[Narcizo]

Day One

20:43 #46 Lathum votes Autumn (1)
20:51 #49 Coffee votes Danny (1)
02:35 #57 Narcizo votes DaddyTorgo (1)
09:30 #68 Autumn votes Lathum (1)
09:43 #69 Britrock votes Chubby (1)

11:05 #75 Packer votes Autumn (2)
11:15 #76 Bhlloy votes Packer (1)
11:43 #82 murrayyyyy votes Coffee (1)
12:34 #85 mauchow votes Danny (2)
12:47 #89 Danny votes Lathum (2)

13:09 #91 Coffee unvotes Danny (1)
13:34 #95 Hoops votes DaddyTorgo (2)
14:13 #99 Coffee votes Packers (2)
14:32 #108 Chubby votes Mau (1)
15:54 #114 Pass votes Mau (2)
15:58 #119 Coffee unvotes Packers (1)
15:58 #119 Coffee votes DaddyTorgo (3)
15:59 #120 mau unvotes Danny (0)

16:07 #127 Mau votes Coffee (2)
16:15 #129 fontisian votes Lathum (3)
17:18 #134 britrock unvotes Chubby (0)
17:18 #134 britrock votes Coffee (3)
17:24 #137 Lathum unvotes Autumn (1)
17:24 #137 Lathum votes mau (3)
17:46 #139 Bhlloy unvotes Packers (0)
17:46 #139 Bhlloy votes Lathum (4)
17:53 #140 Lathum unvotes Mau (2)
17:53 #140 Lathum votes Coffee (4)

18:04 #146 Coffee unvotes DaddyTorgo (2)
18:04 #146 Coffee votes mau (3)
18:31 #150 Lathum unvotes Coffee (3)
18:31 #150 Lathum votes mau (4)
18:53 #160 Packer unvotes Autumn (0)
18:53 #161 Packers votes Coffee (4)
19:22 #171 Zinto votes Lathum (5)
19:58 #182 Mau unvotes Coffee (3)
19:58 #182 Mau votes DaddyTorgo (3)

20:00 #187 Danny unvotes Lathum (4)
20:00 #187 Danny votes DaddyTorgo (4)
20:02 #189 Lathum unvotes Mau (3)
20:02 #189 Lathum votes DaddyTorgo (5)
20:05 #199 DaddyTorgo votes Lathum (5)
20:28 #208 Coffee unvotes mau (2)
20:28 #208 Coffee votes DaddyTorgo (6)
20:29 #210 Daddy unvotes Lathum (4)
20:29 #210 Daddy votes Coffee (4)

20:50 #232 Brit unvotes Coffee (3)
20:50 #232 Brit votes Lathum (5)
20:50 #233 Daddy unvotes Coffee (2)
20:50 #233 Daddy votes Lathum (6)
20:53 #241 Zinto unvotes Lathum (5)
20:53 #241 Zinto votes Daddy (7)
20:57 #265 Chubby unvotes mau (1)
20:57 #265 Chubby votes Daddy (8)

Day One Tally:

8 DaddyTorgo - Narcizo (57), hoopsguy (95), mauchow (182), Danny (187), Lathum (189), Coffee Warlord (208), Zinto (241), Chubby (265)
5 Lathum - Autumn (68), fontisian (129), bhlloy (139), britrock88 (232), DaddyTorgo (233)
2 Coffee Warlord - murra5y (82), PackerFanatic (161)
1 mauchow - Passacaglia (114)

No Vote: Katylied

[Narcizo]

Day Two

21:36 #326 Lathum votes Autumn (1)
21:47 #329 murra5y votes Lathum (1)
22:31 #337 bhlloy votes Lathum (2)
07:30 #356 Chubby votes Coffee (1)
07:54 #360 Coffee votes Bhlloy (1)
08:04 #363 Narcizo votes Bhlloy (2)
09:45 #378 Autumn votes Passacaglia (1)
10:02 #382 Passacaglia votes Katylied (1)

10:41 #386 Bhlloy unvotes Lathum (1)
10:41 #386 Bhlloy votes Mau (1)
12:07 #390 Mau votes Coffee (2)
12:30 #396 Passacaglia unvotes Katylied (0)
13:15 #401 Danny votes Coffee (3)
13:22 #404 murra5y unvotes Lathum (0)
13:22 #404 murra5y votes Coffee (4)
13:30 #408 Packer votes Coffee (5)

13:47 #416 Passacaglia votes mau (2)
14:00 #423 Mau unvotes Coffee (4)
14:00 #423 Mau votes Lathum (1)
14:17 #429 Danny unvotes Coffee (3)
14:17 #429 Danny votes Packer (1)
14:23 #431 Coffee unvotes bhlloy (1)
14:23 #431 Coffee votes murra5y (1)
14:30 #434 Packer unvotes Coffee (2)
14:46 #441 Narcizo unvotes bhlloy (0)
14:46 #441 Narcizo votes murra5y (2)
14:55 #445 murra5y unvotes Coffee (1)
14:55 #445 murra5y votes Lathum (2)
15:10 #447 Packer votes Autumn (2)


15:32 #452 Autumn unvotes Passa (0)
15:32 #452 Autumn votes Mau (3)
15:58 #465 Passa unvotes Mau (2)
15:58 #465 Passa votes Coffee (2)
16:44 #481 fontisian votes Hoops (1)
16:54 #487 Danny unvotes Packer (0)
16:54 #487 Danny votes Coffee (3)
17:23 #496 Packer votes Coffee (4)

17:55 #504 Autumn unvotes Mau (1)
17:55 #504 Autumn votes Hoops (2)
17:58 #505 Danny unvotes Coffee (3)
17:58 #505 Danny votes Hoops (3)
18:43 #518 Katylied votes Lathum (3)
18:51 #523 Zinto votes Hoops (4)
19:26 #528 bhlloy unvotes mau (0)
19:26 #528 bhlloy votes Coffee (4)
19:33 #529 Lathum unvotes Autumn (0)
19:48 #534 Lathum votes Coffee (5)

20:06 #556 Coffee unvotes murra5y (1)
20:06 #556 Coffee votes Packers (1)
20:09 #561 Hoops votes Packers (2)
20:09 #562 Lathum unvotes Coffee (4)
20:09 #562 Lathum votes Packers (3)
20:30 #575 Chubby unvotes Coffee (3)
20:30 #575 Chubby votes Hoops (5)
20:38 #590 Hoops unvotes Packers (2)
20:38 #590 Hoops votes Coffee (4)
20:44 #600 Coffee unvotes Packers (1)
20:44 #600 Coffee votes Lathum (4)
20:47 #604 Lathum unvotes Packers (0)
20:47 #604 Lathum votes Coffee (5)

20:48 #610 Lathum unvotes Coffee (4)
20:48 #610 Lathum votes Hoops (6)
20:49 #612 murra5y unvotes Lathum (3)
20:49 #612 murra5y votes Coffee (5)
20:53 #626 mauchow unvotes Lathum (2)
20:53 #626 mauchow votes Coffee (6)
20:54 #629 Coffee unvotes Lathum (1)
20:54 #629 Coffee votes Hoops (7)
20:59 #647 Lathum unvotes Hoops (6)
20:59 #647 Lathum votes Coffee (7)


Day Two tally:

Coffee Warlord 7 - Passacaglia (465), PackerFanatic (496), bhlloy (528), hoopsguy (590), murra5y (612), mauchow (626), Lathum (647)
hoopsguy 6 - fontisian (481), Autumn (504), Danny (505), Zinto (523), Chubby (575), Coffee Warlord (629)
Lathum 1 - KatyLied (518)
murra5y 1 - Narcizo (441)

[Narcizo]

Day Three

21:26 #732 Danny votes Packers (1)
20:18 #764 murra5y votes Zinto (1)
07:43 #779 Narcizo votes bhlloy (1)
08:20 #787 Autumn votes Packers (2)
09:20 #806 mauchow votes Packers (3)
09:29 #810 Lathum votes bhlloy (2)
10:05 #815 bhlloy votes Zinto (2)

15:29 #865 Packer votes bhlloy (3)
15:33 #869 chubby votes Pass (1)
16:41 #898 Passa votes Packers (4)
17:01 #908 Chubby unvotes Pass (0)
17:01 #908 Chubby votes Lathum (1)
17:19 #918 Hoops votes Bhlloy (4)
17:21 #919 fontisian votes Zinto (3)

20:14 #932 Zinto votes Packers (5)
20:16 #933 fontisian unvotes Zinto (2)
20:16 #933 fontisian votes bhlloy (5)
20:25 #940 Lathum unvotes bhlloy (4)
20:25 #940 Lathum votes Packers (6)
20:58 #983 Katylied votes Packers (7)
20:59 #987 murra5y unvotes zinto (1)
20:59 #987 murra5y votes bhlloy (5)

Day Three Tally:

PackerFanatic 7 - Danny (732), Autumn (787), mauchow (806), Passacaglia (898), Zinto (932), Lathum (940), KatyLied (983)
bhlloy 5 - Narcizo (779), PackerFanatic (865), hoopsguy (918), fontisian (933), murra5y (987)
Zinto 1 - bhlloy (815)
Lathum 1 - Chubby (908)

[Narcizo]

Day Four Vote

03:17 #1056 Narcizo votes Katylied (1)
04:36 #1060 Chubby votes murra5y (1)
06:28 #1062 Lathum votes Chubby (1)
07:20 #1065 Narcizo unvotes Katylied (0)
07:20 #1065 Narcizo votes murra5y (2)
09:19 #1089 Autumn votes Katylied (1)
10:17 #1101 Bhlloy votes Zinto (1)
10:50 #1121 murra5y votes katylied (2)

13:48 #1137 Narcizo unvotes murra5y (1)
13:48 #1137 Narcizo votes Katylied (3)
13:53 #1137 Narcizo unvotes Katylied (2)
14:30 #1147 mauchow votes zinto (2)
15:10 #1149 Narcizo votes murra5y (2)
16:07 #1150 Pass votes fontisian (1)
16:30 #1158 Autumn unvotes Katy (1)
16:30 #1158 Autumn votes mauchow (1)

16:39 #1164 Lathum unvotes Chubby (0)
16:39 #1164 Lathum votes Katylied (2)
16:46 #1168 Narcizo unvotes murra5y (1)
16:46 #1168 Narcizo votes Katylied (3)
17:12 #1175 katylied votes murra5y (2)
17:32 #1182 Zinto votes fontisian (2)
17:37 #1183 Chubby unvotes murra5y (1)
17:37 #1183 Chubby votes Zinto (3)
19:27 #1203 Zinto unvotes fontisian (1)
19:27 #1203 Zinto votes Katylied (4)
19:48 #1207 fontisian votes Chubby (1)
19:53 #1211 Autumn unvotes mauchow (0)
19:53 #1211 Autumn votes Zinto (4)
20:56 #1260 fontisian unvotes Chubby (0)
20:56 #1260 fontisian votes Katylied (5)
20:57 #1262 fontisian unvotes Katylied (4)
20:57 #1262 fontisian votes Zinto (5)

Day Four Tally

Zinto 5 - bhlloy (1101), mauchow (1147), Chubby (1183), Autumn (1211), fontisian (1262)
KatyLied 4 - murra5y (1121), Lathum (1164), Narcizo (1168), Zinto (1203)
fontisian 1 - Passacaglia (1150)
murra5y 1 - KatyLied (1175)

[JAG]

I forgot Narc, early on you were the one that had the wolves nailed dead to rights. They tried to kill you night two, but got their conversion instead.

[JAG]

Well, I guess technically you called them out for suspicious behavior but then voted elsewhere. For what it's worth, the wolves also missed on the seer and thought they had a cultist but didn't know who.

[Autumn]

oh wait, I forgot to check that. So there was no cultist? And no Janine?

[Narcizo]

Originally Posted by JAG

Well, I guess technically you called them out for suspicious behavior but then voted elsewhere.

Calling out wolves for suspicious behaviour but not voting them. I must have been a wolf.

[mauchow]

I was convinced autumn was the cultist. He kept calling me out and never voted me then voted with me... thought he knew I was a wolf and that was my signal. Lmao

[JAG]

Originally Posted by Autumn

oh wait, I forgot to check that. So there was no cultist? And no Janine?

Correct. There was a way for the cultist to enter the game, but it would have required lynching a bad guy and no conversions within the first couple days as a way to even out the possibility that the bad guys might not manage to get a conversion during the game.

[JAG]

Oh yeah, I was amused that the roles for the Keymaster and Gatekeeper went to a male and female as per the movie.

hoops got his victory at just the right time as he was scanned by Chubby that evening. That could have led to some drama.

[Autumn]

Originally Posted by mauchow

I was convinced autumn was the cultist. He kept calling me out and never voted me then voted with me... thought he knew I was a wolf and that was my signal. Lmao

I just couldn't get anyone to vote with me! And then I figured you could just as easily be voting to look good.

[hoopsguy]

Originally Posted by JAG

Oh yeah, I was amused that the roles for the Keymaster and Gatekeeper went to a male and female as per the movie.

hoops got his victory at just the right time as he was scanned by Chubby that evening. That could have led to some drama.

I felt like I had dropped enough clues earlier in the thread to strongly support my reveal, even if fingered by the seer. But since I was playing for the village, I did not want to have to resort to that showdown since it would expose Egon.

[JAG]

Originally Posted by hoopsguy

I felt like I had dropped enough clues earlier in the thread to strongly support my reveal, even if fingered by the seer. But since I was playing for the village, I did not want to have to resort to that showdown since it would expose Egon.

Yes, but counting on the village to buy that you weren't an evil ghost setting up a future fake reveal for when you were scanned might have been a different story. Your reputation proceeds you after all.

[Danny]

had fun jag. Well done wolves, especially mauboy. Alwys good to see a winning wolf be someone who is engaged and active and is still able to stay hidden

[hoopsguy]

Originally Posted by JAG

Yes, but counting on the village to buy that you weren't an evil ghost setting up a future fake reveal for when you were scanned might have been a different story. Your reputation proceeds you after all.

Eh, you do what you can

I bet you had fun assigning that role to me. Random.org .... sure

[DaddyTorgo]

So Lathum and mau were wolves? And even after they orchestrated that clumsy-ass run on me (WHICH I POINTED OUT) you guys didn't catch them?

GRRRR

[JAG]

Latham wasn't a wolf at the time though.

[mauchow]

Originally Posted by Danny

had fun jag. Well done wolves, especially mauboy. Alwys good to see a winning wolf be someone who is engaged and active and is still able to stay hidden

I was on eggshells from day one. Twas fun!

We had reveals ready to go in most events but they never had to happen because the village was taking care of the votes without our help for the most part.