POTUS 2024 - Harris vs Trump - General Election Discussion

[Flasch186]

Even in writing an article he reads problematic




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[JPhillips]

Cuban is accusing bitcoin bros of backing Trump because the expected chaos and inflation will boost bitcoin and ake them richer.

[JPhillips]

dola

This is terrible, but not surprising given the shitshow Secret Service has become.

—The shooter visited the rally site a few days in advance to scope it out
—62 mins elapsed between the time the shooter was photographed as being suspicious and when he fired the shots
—20 mins elapsed between the time he was spotted by snipers & when he fired the shots

[GrantDawg]

I don't know how there will not be a blood bath in the Secret Service leadership. Just a shit show from the top down.

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[CrimsonFox]

Originally Posted by GrantDawg

This is the most embarrassing thing at a RNC since Clint Eastwood talked to a chair.

Oh my god this Republican National Convention Rap video that was just played to the entire Republican National Convention was embarrassing... and the audience was silent afterwards. pic.twitter.com/fWn3o3tgcr

— Erin Reed (@ErinInTheMorn) July 17, 2024

even worse than the "I'm a MAGA kid" brat

[GrantDawg]

Hey Liberals, trying to make light of Trump being shot in the ear like it is no big deal, or play up that he may not of been hit by a bullet but some other shrapnel is not the big "own" you think it is. It makes you look petty and silly. Real bullets were fired at him. People were killed and injured.

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[JPhillips]

I'm not making light, but it is weird that we never heard from a doctor or saw any medical reports. And it's very weird that the media have been silent about that.

[GrantDawg]

Biden diagnosed with Covid. Symptoms are mild so far.

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[GrantDawg]

"I'm not making light, but it is weird that we never heard from a doctor or saw any medical reports. And it's very weird that the media have been silent about that."

Really? Blood was pouring from his ear. Does a diagnosis matter? How?

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[CrimsonFox]

Originally Posted by Ghost Econ

I think JD Vance wears a beard because otherwise his chin looks like it's made of sugar glass.

[JPhillips]

Originally Posted by GrantDawg

"I'm not making light, but it is weird that we never heard from a doctor or saw any medical reports. And it's very weird that the media have been silent about that."

Really? Blood was pouring from his ear. Does a diagnosis matter? How?

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Medical reports for things much less serious are standard for everyone not named Trump. I don't expect any revelations, but, yes, one of the major candidates being injured in a shooting should lead to some level of medical details being reported.

[JPhillips]

dola

Never thought I'd live to see a GOP that was working towards allowing the Russians and the Chinese to invade their neighbors.

[GrantDawg]

"Medical reports for things much less serious are standard for everyone not named Trump. I don't expect any revelations, but, yes, one of the major candidates being injured in a shooting should lead to some level of medical details being reported."

Seriously, that sounds as nutty as the Right wing conspiracy theories. What are you suggesting they are covering up? It was a minor wound to his ear. There isn't much a doctor's report would say more than that.

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[CrimsonFox]

The best thing I ever did lately was uninstall the news feed from Windows. I get upset a lot less now. I don't read all those moronic clickbait bot articles.

[JPhillips]

I'm not suggesting they're covering up anything. We used to get this kind of information as a standard. Was there a concussion? Is his hearing damaged? Were there any injuries when the SS intervened? This is all standard stuff, but Trump keeps it all secret.

[CrimsonFox]

Originally Posted by GrantDawg

I don't know how there will not be a blood bath in the Secret Service leadership. Just a shit show from the top down.

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everything the GOP does is subpar and halfassed....there's nothing to see here really. in fact they'll blame YOU

[Lathum]

It would be the most Trump thing ever for him to dodge a bullet and Biden to die of Covid a week later

[Lathum]

Originally Posted by JPhillips

I'm not suggesting they're covering up anything. We used to get this kind of information as a standard. Was there a concussion? Is his hearing damaged? Were there any injuries when the SS intervened? This is all standard stuff, but Trump keeps it all secret.

I heard an expert today say even if his ear was grazed it would have been shredded.

[RainMaker]

Who do you think is in charge of the Secret Service?

[CrimsonFox]

It wasn't GOd that deflected the bullet btw, it was Satan. CHeeto made a deal with him to go out the Cheeto way...in a hotel with a hooker ODing on blow.

[Danny]

I cant imagine even mild to moderate covid will be helpful for Bidens energy and ability to campaign. Perhaps he can use this as a reason to go out with an excuse.

[GrantDawg]

"Who do you think is in charge of the Secret Service?"

Obama, obviously.

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[GrantDawg]

Wow.
https://x.com/phildstewart/status/18...qcAoLrBDQ&s=19

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[Brian Swartz]

Originally Posted by Danny

I cant imagine even mild to moderate covid will be helpful for Bidens energy and ability to campaign. Perhaps he can use this as a reason to go out with an excuse.

He definitely can, but I doubt very much that he will. Everything I've read says that even Democrats who want him to drop out think the wind has been taken out of that sail.

[GrantDawg]

I don't think those sails have totally lost the wind.
https://x.com/brianstelter/status/18...XtHjE51Ig&s=19

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[Ksyrup]

My wife pointed out this morning that Vance's wife is Indian, which I didn't know but we both thought was interesting and funny as hell given, well, MAGA, and this evening I saw a Newsweek article about MAGA attacking her with racist comments.

[RainMaker]

Originally Posted by GrantDawg

I don't think those sails have totally lost the wind.
x.com

Between that and inviting Netanyahu to cut a campaign speech for Trump on the floors of Congress next week, I think Schumer may want to move on from Biden.

[NobodyHere]

Biden is reported to have the co-vids now.

[GrantDawg]

Schumer and Jeffries were fighting with the DNC today as well, trying to stop them from having a phone roll-call nominate Biden before the convention.

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[RainMaker]

Yeah, Harrison was on Twitter yesterday lying about why they needed to get the nomination in before the convention. Good lord how did he get put in any position of power in the party? What a shitshow.

[GrantDawg]

Lol
https://x.com/MeghanMcCain/status/18...I3bPVnmxg&s=19

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[GrantDawg]

Uhhhh....
https://x.com/kasie/status/181372627...5iA2861xQ&s=19

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[RainMaker]

This is good. Ween her off the benzos a bit and she can be competitive.

VP on Vance: The is a fellow who in the Senate participated in blocking protections for IVF. This is an individual who has said he is for a national abortion ban. pic.twitter.com/c3qIPiSVaE

— Acyn (@Acyn) July 17, 2024

[Lathum]

Good Lord the GOP is killing it. The guy who spoke about his son being killed at Abbey Gate and reading the names of those killed was really powerful.

Now granted, the guy they support is a 5 times draft dodger who called POws suckers and losers and questioned why anyone would join the military, but it doesn't matter. They love him.

[Lathum]

He is so cooked

Biden should drop out, nearly two-thirds of Democrats say: AP-NORC Poll | AP News

[cuervo72]

Yeah, they're killing it -- their speeches have included a Gov and his dog, an OnlyFans model/rap girlfriend/reality show person (with forehead tattoo), a daughter of reality show couple who are in jail for 20 years on fraud, a couple of sons and daughters (who aren't interesting enough for Dad to stay awake during), and now...Hulk Hogan. Yep, they are killing it.

Re: the second link. I am fine if he drops out (though still think they are ignoring a lot of voters, mostly Black). I'm also with him if he runs. Can do both!

[Atocep]

Originally Posted by cuervo72

Yeah, they're killing it -- their speeches have included a Gov and his dog, an OnlyFans model/rap girlfriend/reality show person (with forehead tattoo), a daughter of reality show couple who are in jail for 20 years on fraud, a couple of sons and daughters (who aren't interesting enough for Dad to stay awake during), and now...Hulk Hogan. Yep, they are killing it.

Re: the second link. I am fine if he drops out (though still think they are ignoring a lot of voters, mostly Black). I'm also with him if he runs. Can do both!

My favorite moment so far is the awkward silence after the Trump, Trump Baby rap video played.

[JPhillips]

I doubt it happens, but Biden leaving the race 15 minutes before Trump's speech would be perfect.

[Lathum]

Originally Posted by cuervo72

Yeah, they're killing it -- their speeches have included a Gov and his dog, an OnlyFans model/rap girlfriend/reality show person (with forehead tattoo), a daughter of reality show couple who are in jail for 20 years on fraud, a couple of sons and daughters (who aren't interesting enough for Dad to stay awake during), and now...Hulk Hogan. Yep, they are killing it.

Re: the second link. I am fine if he drops out (though still think they are ignoring a lot of voters, mostly Black). I'm also with him if he runs. Can do both!

You're seeing what you want to see if you don't think they are killing it.

And baby dog is awesome.

[JPhillips]

Nobody but partisans watches conventions anymore, so none of it matters.

[Lathum]

Originally Posted by JPhillips

Nobody but partisans watches conventions anymore, so none of it matters.

Perhaps, but putting parents of veterans killed by immigrants and soldiers killed under Bidens watch after he claimed no service members have been killed during his admin is very powerful.

especially in contrast to a drooling vessel of a man who will be at the DNC.

[cuervo72]

Now do Covid families. Or victims of mass shootings.

[Lathum]

Originally Posted by cuervo72

Now do Covid families. Or victims of mass shootings.

Whats your point?

If you don't think those parents resonate with a large audience you're not paying attention.

[Atocep]

Originally Posted by Lathum

Whats your point?

If you don't think those parents resonate with a large audience you're not paying attention.

There's nothing that can be done for the people that don't understand that was forced on the Biden administration by Trump in a deal he made with the Taliban that released 5,000 captured taliban and that he wanted to negotiate with Taliban leadership at Camp David on the eve of 9/11.

Those people will get worked up by anything.

[Ksyrup]

Originally Posted by JPhillips

Nobody but partisans watches conventions anymore, so none of it matters.

It matters from the standpoint of turnout. Specifically, Bulwark pointed out today that the basic difference between Trump 2016 and Trump 2020 was white male turnout. He's doing well with that group right now.

[JPhillips]

Yes, I just don't think anything that happens at the convention is making any difference. Persuadable voters aren't watching two hours a night of the convention.

[Atocep]

Originally Posted by JPhillips

Yes, I just don't think anything that happens at the convention is making any difference. Persuadable voters aren't watching two hours a night of the convention.

Everything is so partisan right now very little matters. The debate didn't really move polling and so far the assassination attempt hasn't shown up in polling either. The RNC certainly isn't changing anything.

[Lathum]

Originally Posted by JPhillips

Yes, I just don't think anything that happens at the convention is making any difference. Persuadable voters aren't watching two hours a night of the convention.

You're right, but you can bet your ass they are hearing the soundbites...

[cuervo72]

Originally Posted by Lathum

Whats your point?

If you don't think those parents resonate with a large audience you're not paying attention.

No point I guess. I suppose these stories - which are sad, yes - work on those same types who get choked up the 1,000th time the news plays a clip of a service member making it home unexpectedly for a graduation ceremony or differently-abled person making basket/scoring touchdown.

(But those other sad stories, they can go screw.)

[Lathum]

Originally Posted by Atocep

There's nothing that can be done for the people that don't understand that was forced on the Biden administration by Trump in a deal he made with the Taliban that released 5,000 captured taliban and that he wanted to negotiate with Taliban leadership at Camp David on the eve of 9/11.

Those people will get worked up by anything.

If only we had a candidate who can point out these things instead of incoherently mumbling for twenty seconds then losing his train of thought and starring into the abyss with his mouth open