03-22-2011, 01:47 PM | #1601 | |
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Thanks for continuing to update the game, HeavyReign. It has become much more stable--in my latest 50 year career, I think I only had experienced a run-time error once in the entire span. (I play it on a Linux machine utilizing VirtualBox. In prior releases, I would see a crash maybe every 5 seasons, especially later in my careers) Anyway, I did notice a couple of potential bugs in the latest release: 1. The "No Offers" filter does not appear to work in the recruit screens 2. Players who are out due to injury or suspension do not necessarily drop to the bottom in the depth chart screen when you have the assistant recommend. I think they are still "out" for the purposes of game play, but I had an instance of a suspended player dropping only to the 13th spot on the depth chart screen (above two active players), for some reason Thanks again! |
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03-22-2011, 10:30 PM | #1602 |
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I think I may have figured out how to re-create the RTE 360. i was on the roster screen and selected one of the options from the drop down like Offensive Attributes. Before the screen could re-draw, I selected Defensive Attributes and got the RTE 360. As mentioned before, it is just from clicking too fast.
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03-22-2011, 11:57 PM | #1603 | |
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Has anyone else had any issues with the no offers filter? I haven't touched that code at all recently and I can't seem to recreate the issue so far. Perhaps send your saved game to [email protected] and I'll see if I can recreate it that way. If you pass along any other errors you are encountering that would be great. While they could be related to playing using VirtualBox, it might be something that I can recreate as well. |
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03-23-2011, 12:07 AM | #1604 |
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One thing I have noticed in our online FOFC league, when I go to Career Stats for my players, and select Career Shooting, it just replicates the data from the columns of Career Averages (or whatever I selected before that--30 minute averages or Career Totals). Might be an easy fix. Just thought I would bring that up.
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03-23-2011, 01:04 AM | #1605 |
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http://www.fbbgames.com/FBCB2010v2123.exe
Extract the files to your install directory. When you start the game it should say version 2.1.23 in the bottom left corner after applying the update. Version 2.1.23 ************************************************************ Fixes: *Injured or suspended players should no longer appear before active players on the recommended depth chart. *Added code to prevent error 360. Please let me know if you encounter this and which screen was loading. *Fixed the career shooting display on the career stats screen. *Clicking on a coach when viewing your past assistants allows you to view that coach's profile. Version 2.1.22 ************************************************************ Fixes: *Fixed error 9 when setting up championship tourney due to not enough teams with winning records. |
03-23-2011, 03:02 AM | #1606 | |
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I haven't but I have barely used that filter. I do notice that it doesn't sort properly in the recruiting screen, ie - when I want to sort by best PSD (of scouted players of course) it doesn't sort correctly. |
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03-23-2011, 08:43 AM | #1607 | |
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Thanks. I haven't been able to replicate it either (or the other issue I identified), so maybe it's a one off. With that being said, I'll send you the saved game file if I do encounter it again. Also, I'll try to do a better job of reporting RTEs (as I mentioned, the incidence has gone way down in the last few updates). |
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03-23-2011, 07:08 PM | #1608 | |
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Are you saying the attribute sorting isn't working at all there on the main recruiting overview screen for you? |
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03-23-2011, 09:36 PM | #1609 | |
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Sorry, to be more specific. When using rating scale A to F, it doesn't sort potentials properly. I just checked other scenarios and it works fine, except for A to F rating scale. |
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03-24-2011, 01:27 AM | #1610 |
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Thanks, that is now fixed.
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03-24-2011, 08:30 AM | #1611 |
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One thing I have noticed all along is the need for better blow-out logic. My last game is an example. I won 103-59 and all five of my starters played at least 31 minutes, with only four subs used for a total of 31 minutes.
In a game like this, the second five should be in the game when score differential hits +/- 25 or so and five minutes to go. Then the bench cleared in the last minute or two. That would give the PT whiners a little time to show why they belong on the bench.
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03-24-2011, 01:25 PM | #1612 | |
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03-24-2011, 01:35 PM | #1613 |
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I've got a training question. If a player's actual ability in a category exceeds his potential, does it do any good to keep training him in that category?
Example: I have a sophomore PG who rates as a C in handling. His potential is D. Last year I still allocated 10 training points to handling, but it resulted in no increase. This year I'm wondering if it's worth that allocation again, or if I would be better off allocating those points elsewhere to skills that WOULD potentially increase... Thanks in advance. Last edited by bryce : 03-24-2011 at 01:36 PM. |
03-24-2011, 01:44 PM | #1614 | |
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03-24-2011, 07:38 PM | #1615 | |
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+2 I've seen games decided by 30+ with all ten starters on the floor when the game ended. |
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03-24-2011, 08:37 PM | #1616 | |
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You can still see small increases if you are over the potential. If you are training another skill that actually has use to the player that may be better though. I'd experiment while using the 0-100 ratings to get a better feel for how much more growth you can get. |
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03-25-2011, 09:01 AM | #1617 | |
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Good to know, thanks. |
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03-25-2011, 09:05 AM | #1618 | |
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I'm glad you said this. I thought I noticed this, but I was never sure because the columns are so small most of the time, and I don't trust my aging eyesight. I do use the 0-100 scale while I'm learning the game. Then I'll switch.
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"The case of Great Britain is the most astonishing in this matter of inequality of rights in world soccer championships. The way they explained it to me as a child, God is one but He's three: Father, Son and Holy Ghost. I could never understand it. And I still don't understand why Great Britain is one but she's four....while [others] continue to be no more than one despite the diverse nationalities that make them up." Eduardo Galeano, SOCCER IN SUN AND SHADOW |
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03-25-2011, 09:15 AM | #1619 |
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IMO, the new startup squads for lower level schools makes the game more realistic and challenging. I've started up games as Princeton and VCU and played four seasons as each. Extremely difficult as Princeton, hard recruiting as VCU--although the on-court results have been excellent with four NCAA appearances and three first round wins.
My biggest problem in both cases has been falling team prestige and the resulting lower budget (even before staff raise demands reduced recruiting money). Not sure why the prestige tumbled for VCU when I made the NCAA tournament four straight years. The past season with only a 14th seed, brought a drop from 69 to 67, and the first three seasons left me at 69 each year. I am now the highest prestige in the CAA, as G Mason and ODU have tumbled quite a bit, so that may be the answer. Anyway, the lower prestige schools are much more difficult and I think will force you to accept new jobs to keep going, much as reality will.
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03-25-2011, 10:46 AM | #1620 |
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I noticed a nice little touch for the first time while playing last night. There is a little notation at the bottom of the screen that tells you what your winning or losing streak is. What I never noticed before is that it carries over to the next season. I had a 49 game winning streak going!
It would be a cool addition to record the top 50 (or even just 10) winning and losing streaks for each team and for overall!
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03-25-2011, 07:45 PM | #1621 |
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Anyone else playing FBCB on a Mac? I'm running Parallels and I've been getting intermittent crashes. In my most recent seasons, the crashes picked up and and finally were occurring about every other game. Now every time I open the file I get a Runtime error 9 message. Both Parallels and my Mac have been a bit quirky lately, and I'm not expecting support for this -- just curious if anyone else has issues trying to run on a Mac.
While I still LOVE this game, the continued frequency of huge first round upsets in the tournament is maddening. In my current career in about 10 seasons with the current version, I had at least four #16 seeds winning first round games. In one season I had 2 #16s and a #15 seed win first round games. This remains my only complaint about this game. |
03-25-2011, 08:08 PM | #1622 |
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If any of the Mac crashes you are getting are run-time errors I can look into them.
I have some things in mind to help with the upsets. I'm mainly working on expanding the options for number of teams/games per conference right now so it would be after that. I'm also going to be out of town all of next week so things are going to be slow for now. Its been a rough month for getting stuff done between getting sick, watching the tourney, my grandma's funeral, and now vacation |
03-25-2011, 08:16 PM | #1623 |
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Kudos HR for the updates and attention. The game just keeps getting better and well worth every penny in terms of replayability.
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03-25-2011, 08:31 PM | #1624 |
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For the record I'm not seeing the upset issue. I probably have had about five 16 seeds beat 1s in 30 or so seasons, which is definitely high, but overall if anything I've seen slightly fewer total upsets than in real life. I hope there isn't going to be anything done to artificially boost top seeds.
I would say that it is an unusual year when I don't have two 1 seeds in the F4. |
03-25-2011, 08:43 PM | #1625 |
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Wondering if there is a way we can get team history to be generated in the HTML output somehow?
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03-25-2011, 09:23 PM | #1626 |
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I'm definitely seeing less common upsets right now. I'm simming out a history and recording it before I start coaching; I'm 20 years in right now. So far, there's been one double-digit seed getting to the Final Four; there have been nine of the 76 teams (two years are not recorded at the moment) that have gotten to the Final Four. I don't know if that's par for the course in comparison to real life. But I'm seeing far more 1 and 2 than any other seed, especially 3-5 seeds. If anything, it's possible that there are too many 1s and not enough 3s and 4s getting there.
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03-26-2011, 01:49 AM | #1627 |
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If you find the time/are so inclined, one area that could be improved is scheduling, which is too easy for the smaller schools. Conference level should be taken into account (if it isn't already). If I'm a mid-major, teams from the Big East, Pac-10, etc should want nothing to do with me. Even if their prestige is lousy, they should rarely accept offers to play a one-off game at my place.
Against other mid-majors...I shouldn't be able to pick on them by making them come to my place year after year. If they're of comparable quality to me, they should reject me sometimes, or only accept me if I offer a home-and-home. Just generally, it's too easy to handpick your schedule. A reasonable request it always gets approved. I'd like to see the CPU reject me sometimes. I shouldn't be able to say "OK, on December 7 I'll play X, on the 12th I'll play Y"...and have everything come out perfect after one scheduling round. Sometimes I play with a house rule...for the first 3-4 scheduling rounds I only react to the CPU's offers, can't propose my own. I allow myself to make offers only after most teams are already set. It's a more realistic picture of college BB scheduling in my opinion...kind of a messy process where you can't always get your first choice. Last edited by youcancallmeal : 03-26-2011 at 01:50 AM. |
03-26-2011, 03:47 PM | #1628 | |
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That's pretty impressive. My personal longest is only 36, also spanning parts of two seasons. What team were you at? |
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03-26-2011, 04:02 PM | #1629 |
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As I've written elsewhere in this thread, I've had a 15 seed win a national title and a 16 make the Final Four, and while those are obviously pretty weird, given a large enough time frame I would expect some oddities. I'm generally happy with the way the tournament plays out right now.
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03-26-2011, 04:06 PM | #1630 |
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I would love to see preseason coaches polls for all conferences.
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03-26-2011, 04:59 PM | #1631 | |
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+1 And have fewer unanimous first place teams, particularly early in the season. I know its cosmetic, but when a Big Ten and ACC team are both unbeaten after a dozen games, neither one is going to get all the votes. Its also rare for more than two teams to have first place votes. Spreading around the votes would be a nice touch.
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03-26-2011, 07:31 PM | #1632 |
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Ran across an interesting team as far as seeding:
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This reminded me of the report of the #1 seed from a lower conference that had an RPI in the 30s. Based on current standards, where do you think this team would be likely to be seeded? Last edited by HeavyReign : 03-26-2011 at 07:35 PM. |
03-26-2011, 07:41 PM | #1633 |
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Probably a 3-4 seed. Their record vs the top 100 is non-existent. But you can't hold that too much against them. Their body of work is very solid.
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03-26-2011, 07:46 PM | #1634 |
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Here's a build to try out while I'm gone this week. If you run into any problems with the less restrictive conference settings leave a post and I'll check it out when I get home next weekend.
http://www.fbbgames.com/FBCB2010v2124.exe Extract the files to your install directory. When you start the game it should say version 2.1.24 in the bottom left corner after applying the update. Version 2.1.24 ************************************************************ Fixes: *Fixed sort by potential on recruiting screen when using A-F rating scale. *Bubble watch now supports 68 team tourney. Changes: *Added a 2 team tiebreaker conference tourney option. *Conferences can now hold between 2 and 20 teams. *Added more options for total conference games depending on the number of teams in the conference. |
03-26-2011, 07:49 PM | #1635 | |
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2074-2075 with Syracuse. I lost my only game in the Big East opener in 2074, then didn't lose until mid-way through the Big East schedule in 2075, to Connecticut, in Storrs.
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03-26-2011, 07:50 PM | #1636 | |
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They honestly remind me of Utah State this year. Utah state was 0-2 vs top 25, and 2-0 vs 50-100. Utah State also had an RPI of 19. Bracketology had them as a #8 seed and they ended up much lower. |
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03-26-2011, 08:06 PM | #1637 |
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Here is anothe weird play. I was losing by 23 points and the computer got the ball with 8 seconds left and shot and made a 3 pointer with their best player. They should just let the clock run out in that situation. Also,as mentioned early why is the best playr on the court in that situation.
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03-26-2011, 08:25 PM | #1638 | |
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Obvious gambling situation. |
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03-27-2011, 01:56 AM | #1639 |
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dola--
Those of you who have done some long-term simming, what kind of coaching records are you seeing? I have what would have been an incredible cpu dynasty in Gary Hotchkiss, who is entering his 36th year at UConn. His record is 1088-233, with nine championship game appearances (including three in a row right now; he's 4-5 in those appearances). He's now 61, and probably has another ten years in him. I find it amazing; he's the JoePa of this universe. There's one other coach with 900+ wins (he's still kicking, at Texas), but only three other active coaches have more than 700 wins. It's even more incredible that he has been at UConn every year of his 36-year career, that he started at age 25, and that UConn has failed to miss a single NCAA Tournament as of yet. I've kept the HTML files of every season in this universe, so I hope to re-tell his story as I go through the history of my league. |
03-27-2011, 02:35 AM | #1640 | |
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I was going to say they reminded me of Northern Iowa last year when they were a 8 or 9 seed. |
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03-27-2011, 03:31 AM | #1641 |
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Comey:
Here is the winningest coach in our online league, going back to the original game for most of it of course. Its a CPU coach that has turned Dayton into quite the power. Code:
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03-27-2011, 04:19 AM | #1642 |
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3rd winningest head coach (#2 CPU Coach, Alhill had a superdynasty at Tennesse as the first person to figure out the steals strategy in the original game). This guy has moved quite a bit more often:
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I'm pretty sure he left Indiana State when a human coach otok it. I'm pretty sure his one year as an assistant with Oklahoma was under Balldog as a human coach as well. |
03-27-2011, 10:32 PM | #1643 | |
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I feel like this team would have been stuck at about #15 in the polls, and gotten stuck with a 7-10 seed in the tourney. I think they should get a 4-6 seed, but that's just me. |
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03-27-2011, 10:43 PM | #1644 |
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My current league began in 1900 and it's currently 1996. Here's the top 50 coaches in all-time wins (all retired, btw.)
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03-27-2011, 10:47 PM | #1645 |
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That's kind of odd that no coaches are in the top 50 in wins. Not a single one.
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03-27-2011, 10:55 PM | #1646 | |
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I've noticed as you progress it takes coaches longer to get into head coaching jobs, usually they aren't getting jobs until they are in their mid-40s...usually coaching 12+ years as an assistant before getting a job at a small school. As opposed to when you start a league, their are a lot of young coaches with high ratings. |
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03-27-2011, 11:07 PM | #1647 |
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Side note, how does one get a printout of team info or coach info? I push print and it doesn't always work for those screens?
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03-27-2011, 11:21 PM | #1648 | |
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Yep, that's exactly the reason. My league is from 1938 until about 2020 now, and most of the leaders are guys from the first season. One guy coached Arizona from like 1938 until the 60s, and IIRC won more than 20 games every single season except one.
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03-27-2011, 11:49 PM | #1649 |
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I actually feel a bit bad for the all time wins leader in my game. Paul Sylvia spent 5 years as an assistant coach before getting his first gig at Penn in 2035. He bounced around at a few schools before landing in Kansas where he made his first Final 4. There was a bit of a scandal and Kansas let him go, but he quickly found a job in Maryland. He went to 2 more Final 4's. In 2068 he got his dream job at Georgia Tech. He took them to 5 more Final 4's, losing in the Title game twice. In his career he went to the Final 4 8 times but never won a title. He finally decided to hang it up after the 2081 season, where he lost in the Final 4, figuring it was never meant to be. The next year, Georgia Tech wins the National Title.
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03-27-2011, 11:54 PM | #1650 |
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Also, in a long career, I LOVE going through this screen:
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Note: I only coached Cuse to 2 of those titles and for only about 12 years total. I retire my coaches at appropriate times (after a certain age, perhaps after a great class leaves, or after finally winning a title, etc.) West Virginia: 15 trips the Final 4 and they cut the nets down ONCE! That sucks.
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