06-10-2010, 10:37 AM | #1651 | |
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06-10-2010, 10:37 AM | #1652 |
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I wish everyone would hurry up and get this thing done. Not once have these AD’s and Presidents stopped to think about how much productivity they’re costing my employer. They are really being selfish about this.
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06-10-2010, 10:37 AM | #1653 |
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ChipBrown says Colorado will announce the move to PAC-X today.
This will be fun. The SEC needs to move NOW. |
06-10-2010, 10:38 AM | #1654 |
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I just think it's an easier sell to have Texas adding to the Pac-10 than California and Washington to a midwest conference. The reality is most people east of the Mississippi look at Texas as a "west coast state" anyway. I doubt many people could honestly consider California part of the midwest
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06-10-2010, 10:39 AM | #1655 |
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Clemson in the SEC... ugh.
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06-10-2010, 10:39 AM | #1656 |
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In 20 minutes Colorado is expected to announce a move to the PAC-10 through a press conference
Source: Colorado to announce Pac-10 move - ESPN |
06-10-2010, 10:40 AM | #1657 | |
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Nice. Let's get this party started. |
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06-10-2010, 10:40 AM | #1658 |
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06-10-2010, 10:41 AM | #1659 | |
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Again, there is a difference between stating "this is what things look like and the direction they are moving" versus "this is what happened." |
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06-10-2010, 10:42 AM | #1660 |
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Washington to Texas A&M would have to be the most miles between conference mates in history.
Is anyone else excited by the potential of Colorado and Nebraska leaving and the remaining Big 12 having to play with 10 members for a year or two, while the Big Ten has 12 members? |
06-10-2010, 10:42 AM | #1661 |
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This stuff has been behind closed doors for months for most of the conferences. The Pac-10 had initially contacted Texas and Colorado 6 months ago according to the Pac-10 commish. The problem was that once the Nebraska-Big 10 thing went public, everyone started to dig and all this came out.
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06-10-2010, 10:42 AM | #1662 | |
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Also in that article Quote:
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06-10-2010, 10:43 AM | #1663 |
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2 auto-bids aint happening.
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06-10-2010, 10:44 AM | #1664 |
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06-10-2010, 10:45 AM | #1665 |
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I agree.. Clemson is one of the oldschool Tech rivalries that I enjoy. Every season, my cousins that went to Clemson and I trash talk before the Tech - Clemson game. |
06-10-2010, 10:49 AM | #1666 | |
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This may be very ignorant, but would it have been THAT much further then say Michigan to Texas, which the Big 10 would have happily done? I think either one is flying distance, so im not sure I see a massive difference to me
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06-10-2010, 10:50 AM | #1667 |
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Basically if the Big 12 had its act together it could have raided the Pac 10 instead of the opposite happening
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06-10-2010, 10:51 AM | #1668 |
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I'm really hoping that A&M ends up in the Pac 10(16).
It is easy to envision WVU being left out in the cold if there is a drastic realignment that includes the SEC taking from the ACC (w/o WVU), and then the ACC taking from the Big East. Having A&M takes away one seat in that scenario. |
06-10-2010, 10:52 AM | #1669 | |
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It is a fair question that I don't know the answer to (I'm sure someone could figure it out easily enough). I'm basing it off of this: |
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06-10-2010, 10:52 AM | #1670 |
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06-10-2010, 10:53 AM | #1671 |
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The practical reality is that's what would happen though. There's a reason the Big Ten has 9 at-large bids - more than any other conference. If the top 2 teams had to play in conf championship game, that number would be half.
If the Pac-10 doesn't make the "old Pac 8" division champ play the new division's champ, there's a decent chance the winners of both sides would have 0-1 loss. That pretty much puts both in the BCS each year. If they had to play and one ended up with 2+ losses, there's a better chance of only getting one team in. So, while it wouldn't be officially 2 bids, the Pac-16 would be almost guaranteed 2 teams in the BCS if they didn't have a conf championship (much like the Big 10 has with its no conf champ and non-round robin schedule). |
06-10-2010, 10:54 AM | #1672 | |
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1808 nautical miles according to travelmath.com But not much worse than ECU to UTEP, 1692 miles
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06-10-2010, 10:54 AM | #1673 |
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I'd guess that right now, it would be Miami to BC, Syracuse to USF, or Arizona to Washington.
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06-10-2010, 10:54 AM | #1674 | |
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Based off my very official finger measurements, its 25% futher
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06-10-2010, 10:56 AM | #1675 |
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As a Pac 10 fan id agree, but with different circumstances it could have. The Pac 10 was able to raid the Big 12 because of both discontent and other conferences moving in concurrently. If were playing the what if, the Pac 10 could have had similar problems and been raided in my eyes.
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06-10-2010, 10:56 AM | #1676 |
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Auto-bids aren't going to mean squat in 5-10 years. This is all building to a point where they start a 16 team playoff. They can then give an auto-bid to every D-I conference (much like they do right now in basketball) and then still have 10 or more at-large bids to make sure everyone that should be in is in fact in the tourney. |
06-10-2010, 10:56 AM | #1677 |
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Why ugh? That's one of the most logical conference change/best fits I can imagine and it's one that I've thought made a great deal of sense for years. I usually referred to it as "just trade Clemson for Vandy and everyone is better off" *(money not withstanding)
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06-10-2010, 10:57 AM | #1678 |
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What about Hawaii to one of its conference teammates?
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06-10-2010, 10:57 AM | #1679 |
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Even Chip Brown is trolling Missouri fans, now, so don't feel bad for doing it here:
"If there was a way for the Big XII to stay together without Nebraska there might be a vote to kick out Missouri" -Chip Brown on Norm Hitzges Show |
06-10-2010, 10:57 AM | #1680 | |
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My point was that it's an easier sell to add Texas/A&M to the Pac-10 than it would be to add USC/UCLA to the Big 12. If people were talking about adding Missouri or Iowa State to the Pac-10, I'd be saying the same thing. Texas just has always been more of a western state than a midwestern one. Last edited by Arles : 06-10-2010 at 10:59 AM. |
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06-10-2010, 10:58 AM | #1681 | |
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Obviously UCLA and USC would be the top targets, but they'd need Cal with UCLA (much like TAMU and Texas) and then Stanford would also come out. But the PAC-10 actully caters to the Cali schools as it is and that would cost them some power in a new conference |
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06-10-2010, 10:59 AM | #1682 | |
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Hawaii to ??? |
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06-10-2010, 10:59 AM | #1683 |
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beat me to it damn Last edited by SnDvls : 06-10-2010 at 10:59 AM. |
06-10-2010, 10:59 AM | #1684 | |
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A UCLA/Cal/Stanford game at Baylor would be a sad sight to see with all of the empty seats |
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06-10-2010, 10:59 AM | #1685 | |
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Even Chip Brown? Does anyone actually consider the guy who writes for Texas' rival site to be impartial in any this? There is no secret that the south schools dont like Mizzou right now, so i wouldnt expect a writer paid to cander to these fans to say anything else.
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06-10-2010, 11:00 AM | #1686 |
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06-10-2010, 11:01 AM | #1688 |
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According to the map, Hawaii is way closer to San Diego State, USC, and Arizona than a lot of the other combinations.
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06-10-2010, 11:01 AM | #1689 | |
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The same power Texas is prob. having to give up to come over, its really quite similar, with three texas state schools and a private compared to three cali state schools and a private. And the other state schools the Pac is bringing has in state partners, just like the other Pac 10 teams would. Its really quite similar when you look at it.
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06-10-2010, 11:02 AM | #1690 |
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06-10-2010, 11:03 AM | #1691 | |
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According to the map Alaska should be a prime canidate for expansion with is close proximity to the Pac 10
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06-10-2010, 11:03 AM | #1692 | |
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'Trolling" would be an accurate description. |
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06-10-2010, 11:06 AM | #1693 | |
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I think it's a little more centrally located for Texas then in the PAC-10. The only "biased" move that has happened in the PAC-10 was the tournament in Staples Center every year. That only happened when the PAC-10 told UCLA that if they voted for the tournament, they'd hold in Los Angeles. The only two dissenting schools were then Stanford and Arizona. An odd assortment. The PAC-10 is on the same page very often |
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06-10-2010, 11:07 AM | #1694 |
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The PAC-16 not having a championship game would look silly.
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06-10-2010, 11:08 AM | #1695 | |
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I completely agree, thats why the Pac 10 is raiding the conference that couldnt work out their issues or even agree they had issues. Hence why I said i could see it happening if roles were reversed and the Pac 10 was saddled with the issues the Big 12 has/had
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06-10-2010, 11:08 AM | #1696 |
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But would make total sense under the current BCS format.
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06-10-2010, 11:11 AM | #1698 | |
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It would be hard as a Clemson fan to just shed a deeply entrenched hatred of the SEC.
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Seems if the SEC were legitimately interested in expanding, it would do so in order to maximize the financial impact of the conference and the distribution of the SEC Network which I'm sure will debut posthaste. As such, with 4 teams to grab, wouldn't it make the most sense to expand the conference's footprint the most?
(1) A Texas School (UT or TAMU) (2) A North Carolina School (UNC) (3) A Virginia School (VT) (4) ??? Another Florida school? If UF really hates Miami or Florida State, you invite the other one and leave the school left out to dangle in the wind. |
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