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[muns]

Originally Posted by Marmel

I actually feel a bit bad for the all time wins leader in my game. Paul Sylvia spent 5 years as an assistant coach before getting his first gig at Penn in 2035. He bounced around at a few schools before landing in Kansas where he made his first Final 4. There was a bit of a scandal and Kansas let him go, but he quickly found a job in Maryland. He went to 2 more Final 4's. In 2068 he got his dream job at Georgia Tech. He took them to 5 more Final 4's, losing in the Title game twice. In his career he went to the Final 4 8 times but never won a title. He finally decided to hang it up after the 2081 season, where he lost in the Final 4, figuring it was never meant to be. The next year, Georgia Tech wins the National Title.

AHHHHHH MAN isn't that just a kick in the teeth!!!! lol thats bad

[henry296]

I am getting so frustrated with this game. My team is so inconsistent, I can't figure them out. I'm playing as Penn and my prestige is 46, so I'm just a mid-level team. I usually always get 3* recruits, so I think I have the talent. I've won 3 of the 8 league championships and I'm usually in contention. However, I feel like I have a number of just horrible losses and don't know what else to do Here is an example from my last game.

I'm 11-5 against Cornell who is 8-8. Their RPI is 212 and I'm around 140. They had only 4 players that were not a "red" rating; I have 10. I lost by 14 points at home. I shot .291 as a team. No matter what I tried, I couldn't buy a basket. I went high motion, low motion. I went high press / low trap. I scored only 14 points in the second half. I've also lost to a 6-12 MEAC team with an RPI of 285. It is these types of games that just drive my crazy.

Am I hurting myself by changing my game plan so much? Any tips on what to do when your team is in a slump?



I really feel like by coaching the game, I'm hurting my team. However, even by coaching my games, I'm not sure what settings to use to sim the game.

[Groundhog]

You don't really hurt your team by mixing up the strategy, but it's hard to get a read on what effect a particular strategy is having even over a complete game, let alone part of a game. I'd recommend you hit "recommend" from the strategy screen and see what the AI thinks is best for your team. Even though I don't use the recommend settings, I like to compare it to what I think my team should be at.

[LloydLungs]

Originally Posted by Balldog

As opposed to when you start a league, their are a lot of young coaches with high ratings.

When I start a league, I manually go in and increase the ages of the youngest coaches. The game starts with a lot of 30-and-unders as head coaches, some at huge programs. For the integrity of my records long-term, I age them a few years, not many, but enough so that later generated coaches have a chance to have an impact on the leaderboard down the line.

[britrock88]

Izulde, thanks to this update, you might have some company in the historical/fictional dynasty department.

[Radii]

Originally Posted by Marmel

West Virginia: 15 trips the Final 4 and they cut the nets down ONCE! That sucks.

I like Auburn, 5th most appearances ever but 70 less wins than other teams around it. 3-12 in Elite 8 games, no titles.

[whomario]

this game is killing me, but in a good way ...

I´m currently in my 10th season at San Francisco, took them over at 54 prestige (simmed about 10 years before starting) and now have them at 77.
I have had great success in the regular season, eventhough even getting league titles has been tough with UNLV emerging as a power house (80+ prestige for a while now, currently at 86) and recently California (79 prestige) joining the WCC.
I have had now 4 elite eight apearances but can´t get to the Final 4. My losses include 2 OT losses and 1 where 2 of my best players injure themselves (1 in the closing seconds of the previous game, 1 after 5 in the E8)

I really have a hard time getting a truly balanced team, which is much tougher to achieve than in the previous version.
I went from a guard heavy defensive team to an all-offense team with balanced scoring and a magician at the point, then a team lead by a 20+ ppg Center that couldn´t rebound (i was like -4 in rebounding margin) or defend, then i suddenly had 4 big men that were Fr and So and a bunch of terrific perimeter players.
One year i lead the league in PPG, FG%, APG and like every other relevant offensive statistic. I lost in the 2nd round ...

now this current season i am built around a good defense (which is like 10 times better than anything i had in years ) and a Carmelo Anthony clone (amazing scorer, 6´8 and 235 that can play some 4 as well) who was my 6th man for 3 years and now as a senior has been amazing.
He averages 27 a game.
There are also the 4 big guys just mentioned who are now all seniors and juniors and very, very solid (the starting C gets me 6/6 with 2 blocks in 20 minutes, the PF 9/9 and stud defense in 28, then 1 7 footer off the bench that scores about 6 in only 12 minutes and a 6´11 guy that can shoot from outside and is solid overall)
No one else is in double figures and no player has more than 4 assists ( i was top5 in assists for 5 seasons prior to this one, now i am like 125th or so)

Have been able to win quite consistently still and at least reach the tournament each year, but it´s still keeping me on my toes

[youcancallmeal]

Originally Posted by henry296

I really feel like by coaching the game, I'm hurting my team. However, even by coaching my games, I'm not sure what settings to use to sim the game.

Henry, my thoughts exactly. One thing I have concluded is that fairly often, your team will have "outlier" games. Pretty much every year I have a couple of stinkers where 2 or 3 things just go horribly wrong (<35% shooting, outrebounded by worse players, etc) and it costs me a game against an inferior team. You can have the right strategy and just have a bad night (or a great one with the wrong strategy). Sometimes it takes 20 games or more for me to find out what's an outlier and what's a "true" result, and consider what changes to make...of course by that time the season's over.

I actually enjoy trying to figure out the offense because the play-by-play lets you know who gets the ball, speed of possessions, etc and by reading it you can make an educated guess about why you're succeeding and failing. Sometimes I'll be coaching or watching a play-by-play and even before I look at the box score, I know what went wrong that night -- just from "watching" my team play, which is very cool. It's defense that frustrates me to no end, since the only information you have is your shooting and the other team's shooting. I have absolutely 0 idea of how double-teaming interacts with various defenses, what skills my players need to have to succeed in a particular zone defense, what defensive traits my SF should have, etc. It's really dimly-enlightened trial and error.

That would be my biggest wish for this game, a defensive study guide of some kind. I don't mind a little bit of mystery but I do want to feel like I have some understanding of what the different options are supposed to do, and what would, in theory, make them work well.

[whomario]

one piece of advice : Don´t go with the extremes too lightly in terms of strategy (not even if the cpu recommends it).
Setting any category of speed, ball movement or shooting 3s to 9 or 10 (or 0-2) seems to result in lots of weird stuff, which actually makes sense since it makes you one-dimensional.

I generally try to set it in between 3 and 8, most of the time 4 and 7 really.

Also you have to consider the level of your oposition. For example, if you are in a weak league it makes no sense to set double team tendency awfully high, even if your guys suck defensively.

As far as defenses go, i´ve found that the 2-3 is basically a "maintain" defense that works well with positional defenders (high ratings for PrD and PsD) while outside zones like the 3-2 or 1-3-1 work well with teams that can pressure the ball (high steals ratings)

[youcancallmeal]

Originally Posted by whomario

one piece of advice : Don´t go with the extremes too lightly in terms of strategy (not even if the cpu recommends it).
Setting any category of speed, ball movement or shooting 3s to 9 or 10 (or 0-2) seems to result in lots of weird stuff, which actually makes sense since it makes you one-dimensional.

I generally try to set it in between 3 and 8, most of the time 4 and 7 really.

Also you have to consider the level of your oposition. For example, if you are in a weak league it makes no sense to set double team tendency awfully high, even if your guys suck defensively.

As far as defenses go, i´ve found that the 2-3 is basically a "maintain" defense that works well with positional defenders (high ratings for PrD and PsD) while outside zones like the 3-2 or 1-3-1 work well with teams that can pressure the ball (high steals ratings)

Thanks whomario, sounds like good advice. I actually do end up in the 3-7 range a lot of the time, particularly with doubling. I figure since I don't know what to do, if I hang around the middle at least I can avoid being completely wrong, i.e. being at 2 when I should be at 9 or something.

I have had some good results doubling at 7, 8 or 9 with some teams that were awful in PRD and PSD. If I have good individual defenders, I might try to limit doubling and pressing and just try to let my guys' superior skill win out -- this doesn't always work well, though. Actually I've had some of my most overachieving teams by just completely ignoring defense, recruiting totally for offense, and putting together a passable defense through luck/experimentation.

[BishopMVP]

Does anyone play with HS players declaring for the draft? If so, do they still declare in November or have they been moved to April as well?

[dawgfan]

Originally Posted by whomario

one piece of advice : Don´t go with the extremes too lightly in terms of strategy (not even if the cpu recommends it).
Setting any category of speed, ball movement or shooting 3s to 9 or 10 (or 0-2) seems to result in lots of weird stuff, which actually makes sense since it makes you one-dimensional.

I generally try to set it in between 3 and 8, most of the time 4 and 7 really.

Also you have to consider the level of your oposition. For example, if you are in a weak league it makes no sense to set double team tendency awfully high, even if your guys suck defensively.

As far as defenses go, i´ve found that the 2-3 is basically a "maintain" defense that works well with positional defenders (high ratings for PrD and PsD) while outside zones like the 3-2 or 1-3-1 work well with teams that can pressure the ball (high steals ratings)

Interesting. FWIW, I was getting frustrated with what I felt were underperforming teams, and finally in a fit of pique I tried running my pace at 10 (I had a deep team and was facing a team that only went 5-deep in terms of quality). The results were great, and I've been running a 10 pace ever since, even when the computer has recommended much lower (like a 3 or 4), and I've had by far my greatest amount of success in my current career since I made that switch. My shooting percentage and efficiency has improved, and my win/loss record has gone up greatly, with my team reaching the finals in 4 of the last 5 seasons (Final 4 in the other season) and winning back to back championships, with a 46-game winning streak mixed in.

Granted, I have very talented and deep teams, but I've also been putting more emphasis on conditioning in my training camps and setting my starter playing times a little lower than the recommended settings so I can keep my guys fresh and tire out the opposition.

[britrock88]

In my 1938 setup, there are 17 conferences, but only 2 conference tournaments. I get an RTE 383 whenever I select the Conf Tourney tab on the left (after the completion of the tourneys).

[molson]

Will it cause any problems if I run a career with limited conference movement and conference prestige changes?

[muns]

Originally Posted by molson

Will it cause any problems if I run a career with limited conference movement and conference prestige changes?

Nope, you should be good to go doing that. Don't think I have seen any type of crash with that going all the way back to the first beta

[Marmel]

Originally Posted by molson

Will it cause any problems if I run a career with limited conference movement and conference prestige changes?

The career I previously posted has this setup and I haven't seen a problem yet.

Request: Can there be a screen similar to conference movement, that tracks conference prestige changes?

[britrock88]

Just a thought... in real life, the NCAA distributes money to conferences for each NCAA tournament game that any of the conferences' teams win. (E.g., in the CAA, Old Dominion didn't win, George Mason won once, and VCU has won 4 times in the six-round bracket, so the CAA would have 5 win shares to distribute evenly among its members.) I know the financial model isn't super-realistic in the game, but it'd be neat if teams' budgets were tied into the postseason success of their conference rivals.

[Young Drachma]

I recall the little discussion about head coach salaries and how this cosmetic feature would be enjoyed by some. (I was not among them)

Well, in my current dynasty I'm essentially playing AD and hiring coaches to steer programs. One of the ways I make it fair-ish is to calculate head coach salaries using a formula that factors assistant salaries, team recruiting budget, coupled with team and conference prestige.

In any case...I decided to share it in case it'd be of interest to others. It's just an Excel spreadsheet that you can use in Excel, OpenOffice Calc and probably Google Spreadsheets too.

Oh, I just realized that all you have to do is go to the A.D. tab and get the total budget number there. If you do that, then you don't have to bother putting in the assistant salaries at all and it'll have the same effect.

[Groundhog]

Originally Posted by Dark Cloud

I recall the little discussion about head coach salaries and how this cosmetic feature would be enjoyed by some. (I was not among them)

Well, in my current dynasty I'm essentially playing AD and hiring coaches to steer programs. One of the ways I make it fair-ish is to calculate head coach salaries using a formula that factors assistant salaries, team recruiting budget, coupled with team and conference prestige.

In any case...I decided to share it in case it'd be of interest to others. It's just an Excel spreadsheet that you can use in Excel, OpenOffice Calc and probably Google Spreadsheets too.

Very cool. I'm intrigued by your dynasty and was thinking of giving it a shot too. I was going to be the AD for just one school however, but it got me thinking, how would I handle hiring a coach away from another school? Can only hire coaches from a school that is 10+ prestige points lower AND has coached at least 3 years at that school?

I actually think this would be a cool "game mode" if Brian ever does a next version of FBCB.

[Young Drachma]

Originally Posted by Groundhog

Very cool. I'm intrigued by your dynasty and was thinking of giving it a shot too. I was going to be the AD for just one school however, but it got me thinking, how would I handle hiring a coach away from another school? Can only hire coaches from a school that is 10+ prestige points lower AND has coached at least 3 years at that school?

I actually think this would be a cool "game mode" if Brian ever does a next version of FBCB.

Well it's up to what you think is fair. My rules are a bit more porous, but only because I don't go looking for established coaches anyway. (You won't see me hire my game's Jim Calhoun away from a rival. That's not realistic.)

What I've been doing is saying that assistants are never off-limits, no matter where they are, so long as you can pay them more. Plus, the game generates them pretty badly, so it's no big deal. It's not like Brad Stevens is obviously on someone's bench in this game, because unless it's the early going he's not.

The only rule I implemented in the last dynasty was:

A team from a lower prestige conference can't hire the head coach of a team from a higher prestige league, no matter their budget size unless he's an alum of that school and over the age of 55. (This is an alumnus exemption, because it could make for a good story. I don't anticipate ever using it, though.) Thus a team from a 3 prestige league can't hire even the coach of the worst team from a 4 or 5 prestige league, even if they're a powerhouse.

I don't really understand why I said he had to be 55 or older, though.

Otherwise, I try to keep it simple. Mostly because the cash thing will rule out most coaches unless you're Kansas or someone really prestigious. I recall in the first dynasty I was at a school that was 90+ prestige, but didn't have a huge recruiting budget despite being a 5-star (created) conference and I couldn't really woo anyone from the big schools and had to look 4 prestige conference and lower.

[muns]

Originally Posted by Dark Cloud

Well it's up to what you think is fair. My rules are a bit more porous, but only because I don't go looking for established coaches anyway. (You won't see me hire my game's Jim Calhoun away from a rival. That's not realistic.)

What I've been doing is saying that assistants are never off-limits, no matter where they are, so long as you can pay them more. Plus, the game generates them pretty badly, so it's no big deal. It's not like Brad Stevens is obviously on someone's bench in this game, because unless it's the early going he's not.

The only rule I implemented in the last dynasty was:



I don't really understand why I said he had to be 55 or older, though.

Otherwise, I try to keep it simple. Mostly because the cash thing will rule out most coaches unless you're Kansas or someone really prestigious. I recall in the first dynasty I was at a school that was 90+ prestige, but didn't have a huge recruiting budget despite being a 5-star (created) conference and I couldn't really woo anyone from the big schools and had to look 4 prestige conference and lower.

I think you are doing in the right way DC. In mine I just don't go after guys that are unrealistic targets (as it makes no sense) although I couldn't figure out how without spending an ungodly amount of time at the big schools (the big east) how to replace the great coaches once they retire..... So instead of putting time into that(like you did with your coach calc thing) I just jumped down to the worst conference and started to control all of those schools.

From there you just go after the assistants as that is realistic and you have a ton of them out there, so it doesn't get old or stale IMHO.

[murrayyyyy]

I have a simple(at least in my mind) cosmetic request. Is it possible to highlight every saturday in a different color(the date) when you are doing the schedule sims? I like to make 1 game on the weekend and one during the week. If I'm off by a day I end up with a school playing Friday night games every week like we are in high school. I know it's picky but I don't know how much trouble it would make to have it happen. Unless I've missed some way to see the months in calendar for with dates when I'm scheduling games.

[Bigsmooth]

Originally Posted by murrayyyyy

I have a simple(at least in my mind) cosmetic request. Is it possible to highlight every saturday in a different color(the date) when you are doing the schedule sims? I like to make 1 game on the weekend and one during the week. If I'm off by a day I end up with a school playing Friday night games every week like we are in high school. I know it's picky but I don't know how much trouble it would make to have it happen. Unless I've missed some way to see the months in calendar for with dates when I'm scheduling games.

This would be awesome.

[bryce]

That would be a nice touch. I always seem to end up with Tue/Fri games, though not intended...

[RPI-Fan]

Check out this guy who is in my universe (note: I had nothing to do with his recruitment or with coaching him at any point):

 PLAYER DETAILS

 #14 PG Vaughn Harris - Colorado - Sophomore
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 Height:       6-2
 Weight:       178
 High School:  Glasgow High School
 Hometown:     Glasgow, MT
 
 Attributes:
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 Type       INS JPS FTS 3PS HND PAS ORB DRB PSD PRD STL BLK QKN STR JMP STA
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 Current:     9  10   7   9   9  10   6  10   3   6   4   2  10   4   6  10
    2021:     8   9   6   8   7   8   5  10   3   5   3   2  10   4   6  10
    2020:     7   8   6   8   6   7   4   9   3   5   3   2  10   3   6   8
 Potential:   A   A   C   A   A   A   C   A   D   C   D   F                

 Health:      Good                                           
 Scholarship: Yes
 Status:      Active Roster                                  
 Academics:   10
 
 Stat Averages:
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 Season   G  GS  MIN  PTS  ORE  REB  AST   TO   A/T  STL  BLK   PF
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   2021  34  34 33.0 16.7  1.8  7.1  6.7  2.2  3.01  1.1  0.1  2.9
   2022  31  31 34.3 13.4  1.9  8.4  8.7  1.6  5.27  1.0  0.0  2.4
 Career  65  65 33.6 15.1  1.8  7.7  7.7  2.0  5.27  1.1  0.1  2.7

 Shooting Averages:
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 Season  FGM  FGA   FG%  FTM  FTA   FT%  3PM  3PA   3P%  PPS   +/-
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   2021  5.9 13.4  .436  2.6  3.6  .710  2.4  6.0  .405 1.25  5.38
   2022  4.8 10.5  .462  2.4  3.4  .695  1.3  4.0  .331 1.27  7.55
 Career  5.4 12.0  .447  2.5  3.5  .703  1.9  5.1  .377 1.26  6.42
 
 Stat Totals:
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 Season   G  GS  MIN  PTS OREB  REB  AST   TO  STL  BLK   PF
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   2021  34  34 1122  569   60  240  229   76   39    5  100
   2022  31  31 1064  414   59  259  269   51   32    1   74
 Career  65  65 2186  983  119  499  498  127   71    6  174

 Shooting Totals
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 Season  FGM  FGA  FTM  FTA  3PM  3PA  +/-
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   2021  199  456   88  124   83  205  183
   2022  150  325   73  105   41  124  234
 Career  349  781  161  229  124  329  417
 
 Career Highs:
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 Type      Pts OReb  Reb  Ast  Stl  Blk   TO  FGM  FGA  FTM  FTA  3PM  3PA
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 Season     32    7   16   12    5    1    7   12   20   10   11    4    8
 Career     41    7   16   12    5    1    7   16   20   10   11    7   12
 
 Awards & Acheivements:
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 Season   Award
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 All      Player of the Game: 22
 2020     High School: Rated ***** and #1 overall by the FBCB scouting service.
 2020     High School: All-State (Montana)
 2020     High School: Mr. Basketball (Montana)
 2020     High School: All-American
 2021     National Freshman of the Year
 2021     2nd Team All-American
 2021     Freshman All-American
 2021     1st Team All-Conference (Big 12 Conference)
 2021     Freshman All-Conference (Big 12 Conference)
 2021     Conference Player of the Year (Big 12 Conference)
 2021     Conference Freshman of the Year (Big 12 Conference)

[Bigsmooth]

Nice player. What screen is that? I can't find a screen that shows the players attribute change over the years like your shot above.

[RPI-Fan]

Originally Posted by Bigsmooth

Nice player. What screen is that? I can't find a screen that shows the players attribute change over the years like your shot above.

Just press "print" on the upper-right side of the screen - it pops up in an easily-viewable text file.

[Swaggs]

Can someone direct me to a good logo (and/or quickstart)?

[Young Drachma]

Originally Posted by Swaggs

Can someone direct me to a good logo (and/or quickstart)?

2010-11 Conferences and Tournaments

Logos

[Young Drachma]

Speaking of players. Here's a kid on the opposite end of the recruit scale. Didn't start a game until his senior year. It shows you what good coaching can do, because the guy that recruited him I fired after his freshman year. Dunno what he ingested over those three years, but he went from zero to hero this season. I'm just the AD, so I had absolutely nothing to do with his development, but still...it was awesome to see real life come through in the game.

So awesome.

 PLAYER DETAILS

 #24 SG Carlos Wolfgang - Colorado - Senior
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 Height:       6-4
 Weight:       185
 High School:  Wasatch High School
 Hometown:     Heber City, UT
 
 Attributes:
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 Type       INS JPS FTS 3PS HND PAS ORB DRB PSD PRD STL BLK QKN STR JMP STA
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 Current:    28  40  58  68  64  29  43  48  23   7  82  24  76  55  81 100
    1928:    26  38  55  63  58  27  38  43  21   7  81  22  75  53  81  96
    1927:    24  36  52  58  52  25  34  39  19   6  76  20  74  52  81  88
    1926:    22  35  49  54  48  23  31  36  18   5  70  19  73  51  80  80
    1925:    20  33  45  48  42  21  27  32  16   5  62  17  72  47  79  62
 Potential:   D   C   C   B   B   D   C   C   D   F   B   D                

 Health:      Good                                           
 Scholarship: Yes
 Status:      Active Roster                                  
 Academics:   85
 
 Stat Averages:
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 Season   G  GS  MIN  PTS  ORE  REB  AST   TO   A/T  STL  BLK   PF
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   1926  31   0  7.1  1.8  0.4  1.0  0.4  0.5  0.73  0.4  0.0  0.7
   1927  34   0 11.4  3.6  0.7  1.9  0.8  0.9  0.93  0.8  0.2  1.1
   1928  38   0 11.0  3.3  0.6  2.1  1.0  0.6  1.68  0.8  0.0  0.9
   1929  39  39 31.5 11.0  1.3  5.1  1.6  1.6  0.98  1.9  0.2  2.8
 Career 142  39 15.9  5.1  0.8  2.6  1.0  0.9  0.98  1.0  0.1  1.5

 Shooting Averages:
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 Season  FGM  FGA   FG%  FTM  FTA   FT%  3PM  3PA   3P%  PPS   +/-
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   1926  0.6  1.6  .380  0.6  0.8  .760  0.0  0.0  .000 1.14 -3.03
   1927  1.4  3.1  .467  0.7  1.1  .605  0.0  0.0  .000 1.15 -0.29
   1928  1.4  2.7  .534  0.4  0.6  .652  0.0  0.0  .000 1.21  2.71
   1929  3.9  7.8  .505  1.7  2.1  .793  1.4  3.5  .401 1.40 10.64
 Career  2.0  4.0  .492  0.9  1.2  .726  0.4  1.0  .401 1.30  2.92
 
 Stat Totals:
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 Season   G  GS  MIN  PTS OREB  REB  AST   TO  STL  BLK   PF
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   1926  31   0  221   57   11   31   11   15   13    0   23
   1927  34   0  388  121   25   66   28   30   27    6   37
   1928  38   0  417  125   24   80   37   22   29    1   35
   1929  39  39 1227  428   52  199   61   62   74    6  111
 Career 142  39 2253  731  112  376  137  129  143   13  206

 Shooting Totals
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 Season  FGM  FGA  FTM  FTA  3PM  3PA  +/-
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   1926   19   50   19   25    0    0  -94
   1927   49  105   23   38    0    0  -10
   1928   55  103   15   23    0    0  103
   1929  154  305   65   82   55  137  415
 Career  277  563  122  168   55  137  414
 
 Career Highs:
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 Type      Pts OReb  Reb  Ast  Stl  Blk   TO  FGM  FGA  FTM  FTA  3PM  3PA
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 Season     29    4   10    4    6    3    3    9   18    7    7    4    9
 Career     29    4   10    4    6    3    4    9   18    7    7    4    9
 
 Awards & Acheivements:
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 Season   Award
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 All      Player of the Game: 1
 1925     High School: Rated * and #1246 overall by the FBCB scouting service.
 1925     High School: All-State (Utah)
 1929     NCAA Champion

[youcancallmeal]

Does anyone think head coach hiring is a little too restrictive? If you're in a prestige 3 conference, your best offers come from prestige 4 conferences. Very rarely can you jump more than one step, which I think is unrealistic. If you're dominating a lesser conference the bigger ones should come calling.

It's also kind of a pain because if you want to coach your way up the ranks, your options are fairly limited. The prestige 4 conferences are Atlantic 10, Missouri Valley, Mountain West and WAC -- if you want to coach in the South, you're SOL.

My sense is that in real life, if you take a mid-major to the Sweet 16 and win your league for a couple of years, more often than not that'll give you a shot at a major conference job. Not that you'd have your pick of them...but maybe just one of those teams that linger at the bottom of the Pac-10, SEC, etc. should be throwing you an offer.

My preference would be for location to play a slightly larger role in hiring (if it does at all) as well as team prestige (ditto).

[henry296]

Why can't you see the stamina rating on the roster screen? I'd like to check the stamina of my opponents to determine my pace.

[henry296]

Here is another request.

I would like to be able to see player / team stats for conference games only. When you play as a lower prestige team and get slaughtered by big teams, it is hard to evaluate your team in the middle of the conference season because each team plays a different quality of non conference schedule.

[OldGiants]

I want to add to the defensive settings KB.

I had a team with a SF whose PRD reached 100 as a senior, with 40ish PSD. In his last season, the recommended defensive scheme switched to 1-3-1. I think that is becasue the AI wants his PRD on the outside all the time.

Also, what is better, one defensive alignment that goes from roughly 84 to 100 quickly or three schemes that start lower and don't reach 100 until the conference schedule starts?

My general approach is to start out with Man the first season and add 2-3 the second or third season with 3-2 the third or fourth, depending on how quickly the schemes are learned.

I have not spent much/any time with game logs, so I've not seen any indication of what defensive scheme(s) my team is using in a game. Is there any way to tell?

[britrock88]

Originally Posted by OldGiants

I have not spent much/any time with game logs, so I've not seen any indication of what defensive scheme(s) my team is using in a game. Is there any way to tell?

On the headers for each play, under the bar that displays the score and time remaining, there should be a listing of the defense you use.

[OldGiants]

Originally Posted by britrock88

On the headers for each play, under the bar that displays the score and time remaining, there should be a listing of the defense you use.

Thanks, I see that now.

Interesting to see how my team shifts its schemes. I wonder if it is random selection. At first I thought Full Court Press always went MAN, but then I saw some 2-3 zones.

It would be nice to have a summary of the defenses at the end, like:

Man 34.3%
2-3 zone 25.7%
2-1-2 zone 40%

As well as the number of times a press got put on. If I get the chance, I might try coming up with a program that reads the PRINT file for that.

[Marmel]

Bragging Post:

2105 NORTHEAST AWARDS

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Player of the Year:

SR SG Robert Harris  St. Francis-PA  18.5 PPG, 5.6 RPG, 2.9 APG 1.9 SPG, 0.2 BPG

Freshman of the Year:
FR PG Chance Christensen  Army  11.0 PPG, 3.3 RPG, 2.2 APG 0.7 SPG, 0.1 BPG

Coach of the Year:
Marmel  St. Francis-PA  29 - 6 (15 - 3) 

All-league 1st Team:
C  SR Edgar Bragg  St. Francis-PA  13.2 PPG, 8.1 RPG, 1.5 APG, 0.6 SPG, 1.1 BPG
PF SR Dante Spaulding  St. Francis-PA  12.5 PPG, 10.3 RPG, 1.3 APG, 0.6 SPG, 0.7 BPG
SF SR Marion Edwards  St. Francis-PA  16.7 PPG, 3.7 RPG, 2.5 APG, 1.3 SPG, 0.2 BPG
SG SR Robert Harris  St. Francis-PA  18.5 PPG, 5.6 RPG, 2.9 APG, 1.9 SPG, 0.2 BPG
PG SR Fedot Kozlov  St. Francis-PA  9.5 PPG, 3.4 RPG, 5.3 APG, 1.9 SPG, 0.2 BPG

[Radii]

hah very nice!

[henry296]

Good job.

A couple of questions about these players are recruits...

1. What were their stars?
2. What was their initial interest / did you start recruiting them from week 1 or did you identify them as recruits in later rouds?

What is your pace setting?

[Marmel]

Originally Posted by henry296

Good job.

A couple of questions about these players are recruits...

1. What were their stars?
2. What was their initial interest / did you start recruiting them from week 1 or did you identify them as recruits in later rouds?

What is your pace setting?

St Fran is in a conference with a prestige rating of 1. Our team prestige was high 30's, by far the best in the league.

Bragg was 2*, rated #585
Spaulding, 3*, #328
Edwards, 3*, #367
Harris, 3*, #260
Kozlov, 3*, #313

Kozlov was probably the only guy that didn't have me listed high or very high. He was a foreign recruit that was a late addition to my recruiting class. Usually if I have an open scholarship after December, I start trolling the foreign recruits (among others) with no offers and occassionally I find somebody like him. The other 4 were recruited starting in week 1.

Edwards and Harris took a redshirt and were really my 2 top players. The other 3 guys were all in the next class after Edward and Harris.

Harris, Edwards and Bragg all started as Sophomores. Then all 5 started as juniors and made the NCAA tournament as an 11 seed and lost the first game. Then their senior year they earned a 8 seed and won the first ever tournament game (other than play in games) in school history, before getting beat by 20 against the #1 overall seed.

Pace was high, probably between 8-10 but I don't remember.

[henry296]

Thanks.

I've started with Bryant in the NE and when they had a prestige of 1. I've now one back to back conference tourney titles.

I've done similar things with foreign recruits as i have 2 3* Canadians coming next year. As a prestige 14 school my initial High 3* often choose other schools so I have to withdraw a bunch of schollies in the first couple of months until I get my targets solidly interested.

[Marmel]

Originally Posted by henry296

Thanks.

I've started with Bryant in the NE and when they had a prestige of 1. I've now one back to back conference tourney titles.

I've done similar things with foreign recruits as i have 2 3* Canadians coming next year. As a prestige 14 school my initial High 3* often choose other schools so I have to withdraw a bunch of schollies in the first couple of months until I get my targets solidly interested.

You have to make you mind quick when it is time to stop going after a 3 star guy when playing as a low prestige team. Many of my classes don't use all the scholarships, but that is a good thing to me. If I can get 3 players I really like each year, that is plenty. I'll pick up a 4th or 5th, but they are usually just roster filler, so I don't stress about filling those 5+ spot classes. These guys just came together perfectly. I don't think I ever had 4 1st teamer players at once before, nevermind all 5.

[henry296]

Agree. My goal is 2 3* players in each class and then I fill with 1* usually good rebounders. It is really hard to get decent big guys which is realistic so I want them to be good rebounders or defenders.

My current recruits look good. One will be a good scorer and the other a good defender. Both are perimeter players which is good b/c I just graduated two of my first recruits who were 4 and 3 year starters respectively.

One thing to note about my current career is that I've gotten my prestige up to 19, but 0 head coach offers. The intent of this career is to try to keep moving up.

[Marmel]

Originally Posted by henry296

Agree. My goal is 2 3* players in each class and then I fill with 1* usually good rebounders. It is really hard to get decent big guys which is realistic so I want them to be good rebounders or defenders.

My current recruits look good. One will be a good scorer and the other a good defender. Both are perimeter players which is good b/c I just graduated two of my first recruits who were 4 and 3 year starters respectively.

One thing to note about my current career is that I've gotten my prestige up to 19, but 0 head coach offers. The intent of this career is to try to keep moving up.

Not getting offers is a bit strange. I take it you've been on the job for 3-4+ years? Regarding the big guys, I usually employ the opposite strategy...I look for one that can score in the post and disregard the rest. If he can defend and get rebounds, then great, but low post scoring opens up the game for your guards.

[henry296]

Yes, I just completed my 5th season with back to back NCAA bids with 20+ wins. I was under 500 in total my first 3 years, but did have an 11-7 and 9-9 conference mark with one of the lowest prestige teams in the conference. As a 13 seed, I took Kentucky to the wire last season.

[Radii]

Originally Posted by Marmel

If I can get 3 players I really like each year, that is plenty.

Hell I go by that philosophy even if I'm coaching a 100 prestige school. Just gimme 3 players every year, if redshirts or something else cause a 5 scholarship year to happen so be it. Give me my 3 and unless I still have the time/resources to pick up someone the same quality as those top three I'll just hang on to my scholarships.

[henry296]

Originally Posted by henry296

Yes, I just completed my 5th season with back to back NCAA bids with 20+ wins. I was under 500 in total my first 3 years, but did have an 11-7 and 9-9 conference mark with one of the lowest prestige teams in the conference. As a 13 seed, I took Kentucky to the wire last season.

This next off season I got some job offers. I lost in the semi-finals of the conference tourney, but prestige increased another 4 points. For now, I'm staying put.

[Groundhog]

Originally Posted by Radii

Hell I go by that philosophy even if I'm coaching a 100 prestige school. Just gimme 3 players every year, if redshirts or something else cause a 5 scholarship year to happen so be it. Give me my 3 and unless I still have the time/resources to pick up someone the same quality as those top three I'll just hang on to my scholarships.

Yup, I'm the same. Now that I'm at prestige 100, I'm looking for pretty much three 5 or 4 star recruits. After I've secured that 3, I'll look at the 3 stars and see if anyone jumps out at me, but you spend so much of your budget chasing the top recruits that it's difficult to use many resources outside of the high risk/reward recruits. On the flip side, I've found that it's often the unheralded 3 star guys who, come their senior year, are really the backbone of my roster, which is very realistic.

[Izulde]

I've gone 7 seasons at Bryant without a job offer. :P

[britrock88]

From what I've observed, you have to have an above-.500 record at a low-prestige school to get offers. I don't know how I got to 73 prestige Ole Miss with a sub-.500 record, but that was probably because I was building and leaving schools in conferences with prestiges of 2 (Sac. State/Big Sky), 3 (UIC/Horizon), 4 (Ind. State/MVC), and low 5 (Charlotte/A-10). I guess those are the steps I should be surprised by.