Werewolf XXXI: House of Frankenstein (Game Over) - Page 34

bulletsponge · 08-20-2006, 09:43 AM

i believe you Barkeep

SnDvls · 08-20-2006, 09:57 AM

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Originally Posted by SnDvls

the more and more the day went the more I knew both Molson and I were beign set up. I had to keep my vote on you out of self preservation.

I'm sure just like blade I'll be set up again though.

I just ask this St. C

if I die by lynch let me put the stake through my heart on my own just to spite the others for their error.

I'll repeat this for St. C

since it looks like the villagers are doomed anyhow
let's end this game now, killing me clinches a loss for the villagers.

unvote barkeep
vote SnDvls

Grammaticus · 08-20-2006, 10:01 AM

VOTE SNDVLS

Barkeep49 · 08-20-2006, 10:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SnDvls

I'll repeat this for St. C

since it looks like the villagers are doomed anyhow
let's end this game now, killing me clinches a loss for the villagers.

unvote barkeep
vote SnDvls

I thought we had ended this terrible practice of self voting.

molson · 08-20-2006, 11:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SnDvls

I'll repeat this for St. C

since it looks like the villagers are doomed anyhow
let's end this game now, killing me clinches a loss for the villagers.

unvote barkeep
vote SnDvls

Ya, I could tell yesterday you were about to self-destruct.

It's just a game big boy.

DaddyTorgo · 08-20-2006, 12:57 PM

could sndvls just be trying to draw pity to sway the vote away from him by suiciding...figuring that we will all switch to another innocent?

this idea gives me pause...I will ponder on it as I go get fitted for a tux for my friend's wedding.

and i'd like to thank the wolves for taking out a baddie...surprising to me they havnt gone after swaggs/barkeep though, especially with no hidden roles to protect our guys...could swaggs be leading us all down a path to destruction along with his come-lately wolfy buddy barkeep??

ponder on that.

Barkeep49 · 08-20-2006, 01:04 PM

Most people who've done the stupid self vote have been villagers. However, like offering a year of Hattrick, I thought this was a plague we'd erradicated from WW.

Farrah Whitworth-Rahn · 08-20-2006, 01:48 PM

Well that's a bummer. I just realized I missed the vote yesterday, and I'm dead.

See, I told you I didn't know wtf was going on

bulletsponge · 08-20-2006, 02:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Farrah Whitworth-Rahn

Well that's a bummer. I just realized I missed the vote yesterday, and I'm dead.

See, I told you I didn't know wtf was going on

We believe you............................. now

Farrah Whitworth-Rahn · 08-20-2006, 02:09 PM

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Originally Posted by bulletsponge

We believe you............................. now

LOL! All it took was stake to the heart....

molson · 08-20-2006, 02:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Barkeep49

Most people who've done the stupid self vote have been villagers. However, like offering a year of Hattrick, I thought this was a plague we'd erradicated from WW.

Ya, as annoying at the Sndvls thing is, it is giving me second thoughts about role. Earlier, I made a comment about how the WWs were likely someone we weren't talking about, and I used him name as example - he jumped all over me. It does seem like odd wolf behavior.

I'm not swithching my vote yet, but I'm going to take a closer look at Gram.

Abe Sargent · 08-20-2006, 02:11 PM

Last self vote was Qwikshot in the Sith/Jedi WW game months ago.

molson · 08-20-2006, 02:12 PM

Also, despite what Sundvls said, the villagers actually have a little breathing room now, with dracula dead, and still no masons dead. So with three wolves, we're 7-3, though I still think there's a chance there's only 2 wolves, based on the imbalance in special roles between the sides.

Abe Sargent · 08-20-2006, 02:12 PM

Unless you count Fouts in the Necro game, but he had a reason to do so

Swaggs · 08-20-2006, 02:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaddyTorgo

could swaggs be leading us all down a path to destruction along with his come-lately wolfy buddy barkeep??

It is entirely possible that I am leading you down the wrong path, but I'm trying my best with the information given.

The one thing that I can assure you is that I do not have any wolf buddies. or mason buddies.

Barkeep49 · 08-20-2006, 02:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Anxiety

Last self vote was Qwikshot in the Sith/Jedi WW game months ago.

Yeah that was back in February or March, which is why I thought it was a relic. I do believe that was the second or third one in that game and came on the heels of several other games with self votes.

molson: It could easily be 6-4 right now. 7-3 is also a possibility but if it's 6-4 and we lynch wrong, they could win the game with a successful night kill.

Barkeep49 · 08-20-2006, 02:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Swaggs

It is entirely possible that I am leading you down the wrong path, but I'm trying my best with the information given.

The one thing that I can assure you is that I do not have any wolf buddies. or mason buddies.

Ok so this gives me an idea. If we feel that it would be worth while to figure out who the masons are, what if we each said we weren't a mason? By my figuring the people who say nothing are either masons or wolves.

Barkeep49 · 08-20-2006, 02:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Barkeep49

Yeah that was back in February or March, which is why I thought it was a relic. I do believe that was the second or third one in that game and came on the heels of several other games with self votes.

molson: It could easily be 6-4 right now. 7-3 is also a possibility but if it's 6-4 and we lynch wrong, they could win the game with a successful night kill.

Corretion: While there might be 4 bad guys left you're right that it's likely 7-3 as Dr. R counts as a human. So we do have some breathing room.

Swaggs · 08-20-2006, 02:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Barkeep49

Ok so this gives me an idea. If we feel that it would be worth while to figure out who the masons are, what if we each said we weren't a mason? By my figuring the people who say nothing are either masons or wolves.

I'm still not on board with this idea.

If we decide to do this, the masons themselves really can't do anything about it, I guess., so they really don't get any input into the decision. I have no idea what their numbers are, but since we have no other apparent special skills in our favor, I am hopeful that they began with at least an equal number to the wolves.

I guess I'm just not sure it is worth the exposure, but I am willing to listen to the pros and cons.

Swaggs · 08-20-2006, 02:48 PM

Just thought of this, but it also gives Reimann a better chance to correctly identify the wolves through his testing, potentially giving the wolves another voting ally.

Barkeep49 · 08-20-2006, 02:53 PM

I'm ok with giving the wolves a better shot. Let's say there are 4 bad guys. That makes 6 good guys. If we can identify the 2 masons that means we have a 50/50 shot of finding a bad guy. That is a 25% improvement over our current chance.

Greyroofoo · 08-20-2006, 03:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Farrah Whitworth-Rahn

Well that's a bummer. I just realized I missed the vote yesterday, and I'm dead.

See, I told you I didn't know wtf was going on

I can sympathize, I know what it's like to be killed by allies

Barkeep49 · 08-20-2006, 03:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Greyroofoo

I can sympathize, I know what it's like to be killed by allies

I'm really surprised that the bad guys killed you. I thought you had raised huge red flags with your strange last minute voting and would have been an "easy" lynch for today.

bulletsponge · 08-20-2006, 04:06 PM

more is happening today than i expected.

DaddyTorgo · 08-20-2006, 04:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Barkeep49

I'm really surprised that the bad guys killed you. I thought you had raised huge red flags with your strange last minute voting and would have been an "easy" lynch for today.

i'm really surprised the badguys havn't killed you or swaggs barkeep...

bulletsponge · 08-20-2006, 04:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Greyroofoo

I can sympathize, I know what it's like to be killed by allies

Hmmm you got a stake thru the heart, now lets put on thru your mouth so you stay quiet

Barkeep49 · 08-20-2006, 04:08 PM

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Originally Posted by DaddyTorgo

i'm really surprised the badguys havn't killed you or swaggs barkeep...

Honestly? I'm quite surprised I'm not dead yet too.

bulletsponge · 08-20-2006, 04:48 PM

who did you replace again Barkeep?

Barkeep49 · 08-20-2006, 04:58 PM

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Originally Posted by bulletsponge

who did you replace again Barkeep?

Schmidty.

bulletsponge · 08-20-2006, 09:15 PM

ahh yea i remember now, sick wife. hope shes better

Swaggs · 08-20-2006, 09:40 PM

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Originally Posted by bulletsponge

ahh yea i remember now, sick wife. hope shes better

That was me.

I think Schmidty had missed a few votes and just felt bad, so he stepped back for this game.

Barkeep49 · 08-20-2006, 09:47 PM

Schmidty didn't like all of you so he stepped away, frustrated with himself over missing a couple votes, and instead had me come in.

Abe Sargent · 08-20-2006, 10:14 PM

??? Schmidty didn't like us?

Swaggs · 08-20-2006, 10:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Anxiety

??? Schmidty didn't like us?

Just you, I think...

Swaggs · 08-20-2006, 10:16 PM

Just kidding, by the way.

I think he just felt bad b/c he had missed some votes and hadn't contributed, so he pulled out.

Barkeep49 · 08-20-2006, 10:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Anxiety

??? Schmidty didn't like us?

Only explanation I can come up with for why he'd inflict me upon you nice folk.

molson · 08-20-2006, 11:33 PM

I just re-read a lot of the game, and have come to the conclusion that everyone is suspicious.

Swaggs, tanglewood, Bulletsponge - if any of these guys are wolves, they've done a damn good job of generally averting suspicion. If I were a wolf, I'd play a lot like these guys. Stay out of controversy, post consistently, make a lot of general "observational" posts, ask questions about the game, only accuse those who have some momentum building against them. We were critized in lynching Blade basically because there was "too much evidence" against him. If it instead lack of evidence that suggests guilt, these three look suspicious. I think at least one of them is a wolf, but how do you distinguish them?

Chief Rum - Blade seemed sure about him. I don't know much else, except that Blade was right about the people he trusted. (with Schmidty/Barkeep still up in the air).

sndvls - if it weren't for his tantrums the last 2 days I'd have a lot of confidence about sndvls. Voting for himself was lame, but you'd imagine a wolf would put up some kind of fight. You're really throwing your fellow wolves under the bus by doing this so far in advance of the deadline. I can maybe see acting like that if you're on your own, but this isn't fair to other wolves, depriving them of even a chance to subtly turn things around.

Barkeep/Schmidty - Schmidty was busy, but he wasn't hospital/family problems kind of busy. I still think if he was a wolf, he would have stayed around.

dodgerchick- If she's a wolf, she's playing the role brillantly. She's not getting the suspicion Farrah got, and I'm not totally sure why.

daddytorgo - He had a couple of very subtle suspcious moments when I look back. Had some deadline vote switches. He also points out his newness and confusion in almost every other post (even though he seems to have gotten the hang of things quickly).

grammaticus - it's pretty amazing he's still alive. He's had more than one deadline vote switch that has killed villagers. Lathum had a good analysis of gram's day 2 voting in post 744. His early activity was risky, but he would know that being quiet would make him look likewise suspicious, and by talking, he at least could throw out some bad theories.

DaddyTorgo · 08-21-2006, 12:01 AM

you left yourself out molson.

and i know i'm innocent. it did take me awhile to get the hang of anything about this game (explaining the day 1 and day 2 vote switches), and I still feel like I'm mostly lost.

Chief Rum · 08-21-2006, 12:11 AM

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Originally Posted by molson

daddytorgo - He had a couple of very subtle suspcious moments when I look back. Had some deadline vote switches. He also points out his newness and confusion in almost every other post (even though he seems to have gotten the hang of things quickly).

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Originally Posted by DaddyTorgo

and i know i'm innocent. it did take me awhile to get the hang of anything about this game (explaining the day 1 and day 2 vote switches), and I still feel like I'm mostly lost.

lol

Lorena · 08-21-2006, 12:30 AM

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Originally Posted by molson

I just re-read a lot of the game, and have come to the conclusion that everyone is suspicious.

lol, that's why I've become addicted. It seems like everyone has at one point or another become a suspect. I'm totally guilty of looking WAAAAY too hard at posts and attempting to figure out their true meaning.

Quote:

Originally Posted by molson

dodgerchick- If she's a wolf, she's playing the role brillantly. She's not getting the suspicion Farrah got, and I'm not totally sure why.

I assure you I am no wolf. The only thing I'm guilty of is making a fool of myself with my multiple idiotic accusations.

Chief Rum · 08-21-2006, 02:27 AM

Well, I am checking out until post-vote. Like last Monday (pretty much every Monday and Tuesday, actually), I work both jobs tomorrow and won't have FOFC access until late tomorrow. So don't be shocked at my lack of posting.

My vote for Sndvls is already posted, and I am allowing it to stand.

Good luck to us all tomorrow--may a wolf be at the end of the stake for once.

bulletsponge · 08-21-2006, 09:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by molson

I just re-read a lot of the game, and have come to the conclusion that everyone is suspicious.

Swaggs, tanglewood, Bulletsponge - if any of these guys are wolves, they've done a damn good job of generally averting suspicion. If I were a wolf, I'd play a lot like these guys. Stay out of controversy, post consistently, make a lot of general "observational" posts, ask questions about the game, only accuse those who have some momentum building against them. We were critized in lynching Blade basically because there was "too much evidence" against him. If it instead lack of evidence that suggests guilt, these three look suspicious. I think at least one of them is a wolf, but how do you distinguish them?

Chief Rum - Blade seemed sure about him. I don't know much else, except that Blade was right about the people he trusted. (with Schmidty/Barkeep still up in the air).

sndvls - if it weren't for his tantrums the last 2 days I'd have a lot of confidence about sndvls. Voting for himself was lame, but you'd imagine a wolf would put up some kind of fight. You're really throwing your fellow wolves under the bus by doing this so far in advance of the deadline. I can maybe see acting like that if you're on your own, but this isn't fair to other wolves, depriving them of even a chance to subtly turn things around.

Barkeep/Schmidty - Schmidty was busy, but he wasn't hospital/family problems kind of busy. I still think if he was a wolf, he would have stayed around.

dodgerchick- If she's a wolf, she's playing the role brillantly. She's not getting the suspicion Farrah got, and I'm not totally sure why.

daddytorgo - He had a couple of very subtle suspcious moments when I look back. Had some deadline vote switches. He also points out his newness and confusion in almost every other post (even though he seems to have gotten the hang of things quickly).

grammaticus - it's pretty amazing he's still alive. He's had more than one deadline vote switch that has killed villagers. Lathum had a good analysis of gram's day 2 voting in post 744. His early activity was risky, but he would know that being quiet would make him look likewise suspicious, and by talking, he at least could throw out some bad theories.

Someone do a Molson report

st.cronin · 08-21-2006, 10:08 AM

AlanT will be handling today's write-up. Night actions will still be sent to me, and I should have those results posted before dawn.

Grammaticus · 08-21-2006, 10:18 AM

I just keep getting mixed feelings about SnDvls. At one point it feels right based on Swaggs theory of him being left alone after the Blade vote and his "what if" theory, the next I think he is okay. His avoiding Blade two nights in a row is making him look better than many of us, though. Don't feel a SnDvl vote is right.

I think my initial vote on him today was knee jerk based on his self vote, which I don't think is good for villagers. So, if you are a villager, don't do it. It could also be him just getting prepared for a close vote between him and someone else. You know at the last minute, he unvotes himself and votes the other candidate, gaining two votes in his favor. Either way it is not a piece of evidence he is a wolf.

UNVOTE SNDVLS

Grammaticus · 08-21-2006, 11:25 AM

VOTE MOLSON

He is my longest running suspect and is listed on most peoples suspect list. Not to mention, he was on all of the dead villager's suspect lists.

st.cronin · 08-21-2006, 11:47 AM

Current vote:

4 - SnDvls - Swaggs, molson, ChiefRum, SnDvls
1 - molson - Grammaticus

Swaggs · 08-21-2006, 12:16 PM

Gramm is rapidly climbing my list with the vote changing.

Grammaticus · 08-21-2006, 12:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Swaggs

Gramm is rapidly climbing my list with the vote changing.

Okay, which vote changes and what about them cause a rapid climb up your list?

Swaggs · 08-21-2006, 12:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Grammaticus

Okay, which vote changes and what about them cause a rapid climb up your list?

How many times have you changed your votes?

molson · 08-21-2006, 12:33 PM

This is probably risky from a self-preservation standpoint to take a vote away from the leader, but I really think SNDVLS is the wrong direction.

Gram's voting has been been pretty blatantly suspicious. And I can see him taking away a vote from a villager leading the vote standings as a way to clean that up the voting record a bit. He might figure he'll look better if Sndvls is lynched a villager.

UNVOTE SNDVLS

VOTE GRAMMATICUS

08-20-2006, 02:11 PM	#1662
Abe Sargent Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Catonsville, MD	Last self vote was Qwikshot in the Sith/Jedi WW game months ago. __________________ Check out my two current weekly Magic columns! https://www.coolstuffinc.com/a/?action=search&page=1&author[]=Abe%20Sargent

08-20-2006, 02:12 PM	#1664
Abe Sargent Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Catonsville, MD	Unless you count Fouts in the Necro game, but he had a reason to do so __________________ Check out my two current weekly Magic columns! https://www.coolstuffinc.com/a/?action=search&page=1&author[]=Abe%20Sargent

08-20-2006, 02:48 PM	#1670
Swaggs Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000	Just thought of this, but it also gives Reimann a better chance to correctly identify the wolves through his testing, potentially giving the wolves another voting ally. __________________ DOWN WITH HATTRICK!!! The RWBL Are you reading In The Bleachers?

08-20-2006, 10:14 PM	#1683
Abe Sargent Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Catonsville, MD	??? Schmidty didn't like us? __________________ Check out my two current weekly Magic columns! https://www.coolstuffinc.com/a/?action=search&page=1&author[]=Abe%20Sargent

08-20-2006, 10:16 PM	#1685
Swaggs Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000	Just kidding, by the way. I think he just felt bad b/c he had missed some votes and hadn't contributed, so he pulled out. __________________ DOWN WITH HATTRICK!!! The RWBL Are you reading In The Bleachers?

08-20-2006, 09:43 AM	#1651
bulletsponge Pro Starter Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: TX	i believe you Barkeep

08-20-2006, 10:01 AM	#1653
Grammaticus Pro Rookie Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Tennessee	VOTE SNDVLS

08-20-2006, 12:57 PM	#1656
DaddyTorgo Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Massachusetts	could sndvls just be trying to draw pity to sway the vote away from him by suiciding...figuring that we will all switch to another innocent? this idea gives me pause...I will ponder on it as I go get fitted for a tux for my friend's wedding. and i'd like to thank the wolves for taking out a baddie...surprising to me they havnt gone after swaggs/barkeep though, especially with no hidden roles to protect our guys...could swaggs be leading us all down a path to destruction along with his come-lately wolfy buddy barkeep?? ponder on that.

08-20-2006, 01:04 PM	#1657
Barkeep49 Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Not too far away	Most people who've done the stupid self vote have been villagers. However, like offering a year of Hattrick, I thought this was a plague we'd erradicated from WW.

08-20-2006, 01:48 PM	#1658
Farrah Whitworth-Rahn Red-Headed Vixen Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Phoenix, AZ	Well that's a bummer. I just realized I missed the vote yesterday, and I'm dead. See, I told you I didn't know wtf was going on

08-20-2006, 02:12 PM	#1663
molson General Manager Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: The Mountains	Also, despite what Sundvls said, the villagers actually have a little breathing room now, with dracula dead, and still no masons dead. So with three wolves, we're 7-3, though I still think there's a chance there's only 2 wolves, based on the imbalance in special roles between the sides.

08-20-2006, 02:53 PM	#1671
Barkeep49 Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Not too far away	I'm ok with giving the wolves a better shot. Let's say there are 4 bad guys. That makes 6 good guys. If we can identify the 2 masons that means we have a 50/50 shot of finding a bad guy. That is a 25% improvement over our current chance.

08-20-2006, 04:06 PM	#1674
bulletsponge Pro Starter Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: TX	more is happening today than i expected.

08-20-2006, 04:48 PM	#1678
bulletsponge Pro Starter Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: TX	who did you replace again Barkeep?

08-20-2006, 09:15 PM	#1680
bulletsponge Pro Starter Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: TX	ahh yea i remember now, sick wife. hope shes better

08-20-2006, 09:47 PM	#1682
Barkeep49 Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Not too far away	Schmidty didn't like all of you so he stepped away, frustrated with himself over missing a couple votes, and instead had me come in.

08-20-2006, 11:33 PM	#1687
molson General Manager Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: The Mountains	I just re-read a lot of the game, and have come to the conclusion that everyone is suspicious. Swaggs, tanglewood, Bulletsponge - if any of these guys are wolves, they've done a damn good job of generally averting suspicion. If I were a wolf, I'd play a lot like these guys. Stay out of controversy, post consistently, make a lot of general "observational" posts, ask questions about the game, only accuse those who have some momentum building against them. We were critized in lynching Blade basically because there was "too much evidence" against him. If it instead lack of evidence that suggests guilt, these three look suspicious. I think at least one of them is a wolf, but how do you distinguish them? Chief Rum - Blade seemed sure about him. I don't know much else, except that Blade was right about the people he trusted. (with Schmidty/Barkeep still up in the air). sndvls - if it weren't for his tantrums the last 2 days I'd have a lot of confidence about sndvls. Voting for himself was lame, but you'd imagine a wolf would put up some kind of fight. You're really throwing your fellow wolves under the bus by doing this so far in advance of the deadline. I can maybe see acting like that if you're on your own, but this isn't fair to other wolves, depriving them of even a chance to subtly turn things around. Barkeep/Schmidty - Schmidty was busy, but he wasn't hospital/family problems kind of busy. I still think if he was a wolf, he would have stayed around. dodgerchick- If she's a wolf, she's playing the role brillantly. She's not getting the suspicion Farrah got, and I'm not totally sure why. daddytorgo - He had a couple of very subtle suspcious moments when I look back. Had some deadline vote switches. He also points out his newness and confusion in almost every other post (even though he seems to have gotten the hang of things quickly). grammaticus - it's pretty amazing he's still alive. He's had more than one deadline vote switch that has killed villagers. Lathum had a good analysis of gram's day 2 voting in post 744. His early activity was risky, but he would know that being quiet would make him look likewise suspicious, and by talking, he at least could throw out some bad theories.

08-21-2006, 12:01 AM	#1688
DaddyTorgo Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Massachusetts	you left yourself out molson. and i know i'm innocent. it did take me awhile to get the hang of anything about this game (explaining the day 1 and day 2 vote switches), and I still feel like I'm mostly lost.

08-21-2006, 02:27 AM	#1691
Chief Rum Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Where Hip Hop lives	Well, I am checking out until post-vote. Like last Monday (pretty much every Monday and Tuesday, actually), I work both jobs tomorrow and won't have FOFC access until late tomorrow. So don't be shocked at my lack of posting. My vote for Sndvls is already posted, and I am allowing it to stand. Good luck to us all tomorrow--may a wolf be at the end of the stake for once. __________________ . . I would rather be wrong...Than live in the shadows of your song...My mind is open wide...And now I'm ready to start...You're not sure...You open the door...And step out into the dark...Now I'm ready.

08-21-2006, 10:08 AM	#1693
st.cronin General Manager Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: New Mexico	AlanT will be handling today's write-up. Night actions will still be sent to me, and I should have those results posted before dawn. __________________ co-commish: bb-bbcf.net knives out

08-21-2006, 10:18 AM	#1694
Grammaticus Pro Rookie Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Tennessee	I just keep getting mixed feelings about SnDvls. At one point it feels right based on Swaggs theory of him being left alone after the Blade vote and his "what if" theory, the next I think he is okay. His avoiding Blade two nights in a row is making him look better than many of us, though. Don't feel a SnDvl vote is right. I think my initial vote on him today was knee jerk based on his self vote, which I don't think is good for villagers. So, if you are a villager, don't do it. It could also be him just getting prepared for a close vote between him and someone else. You know at the last minute, he unvotes himself and votes the other candidate, gaining two votes in his favor. Either way it is not a piece of evidence he is a wolf. UNVOTE SNDVLS

08-21-2006, 11:25 AM	#1695
Grammaticus Pro Rookie Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Tennessee	VOTE MOLSON He is my longest running suspect and is listed on most peoples suspect list. Not to mention, he was on all of the dead villager's suspect lists.

08-21-2006, 11:47 AM	#1696
st.cronin General Manager Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: New Mexico	Current vote: 4 - SnDvls - Swaggs, molson, ChiefRum, SnDvls 1 - molson - Grammaticus __________________ co-commish: bb-bbcf.net knives out

08-21-2006, 12:16 PM	#1697
Swaggs Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000	Gramm is rapidly climbing my list with the vote changing. __________________ DOWN WITH HATTRICK!!! The RWBL Are you reading In The Bleachers?

08-21-2006, 12:33 PM	#1700
molson General Manager Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: The Mountains	This is probably risky from a self-preservation standpoint to take a vote away from the leader, but I really think SNDVLS is the wrong direction. Gram's voting has been been pretty blatantly suspicious. And I can see him taking away a vote from a villager leading the vote standings as a way to clean that up the voting record a bit. He might figure he'll look better if Sndvls is lynched a villager. UNVOTE SNDVLS VOTE GRAMMATICUS

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