Werewolf XXXVI: Resident Evil (S.T.A.R.S. Wins! Post #1424) - Page 34

Fouts · 10-29-2006, 08:22 PM

So our list of non-zombies has expanded;

LSG
SnDvls
Hoops
Fouts
Alan

That is 5 now. If I die tonight, I think the Umbrella faction should reveal a zombie or a known non-zombie. We need to cut down their numbers.

BrianD · 10-29-2006, 08:22 PM

Before we get too far past this page, note that Glen changed his vote off of SnDvls and on to Spleen just as SnDvls was about to reveal. He may have known this was coming.

spleen1015 · 10-29-2006, 08:23 PM

At least you guys will remove me from the game, FOR THE VERY FIRST TIME. Bitches.

I'm just vanilla STARS.

Alan T · 10-29-2006, 08:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by spleen1015

At least you guys will remove me from the game, FOR THE VERY FIRST TIME. Bitches.

I'm just vanilla STARS.

This is a very un-stars like post

spleen1015 · 10-29-2006, 08:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alan T

This is a very un-stars like post

I will bet anyone left in the game FOF2K7 that I am STARS.

Fouts · 10-29-2006, 08:25 PM

I have 3 guys in mind;

spleen - lot of people voting for him, including all the people I know are not zombies.

Glen - some strange moves, but I can't pin anything down to him

path - first vote on Umbrella, and wasn't killed by zombies.

Hard choice. Chief Rum, Mr. W, DC/Anxiety and Brian have avoided heat most of the game. Their time will come.

hoopsguy · 10-29-2006, 08:25 PM

OK, I think we expect that Zombies have at least three people at this time, correct?

So should we be worried that there are three "cleared" and three "non-cleared" (using the terms very loosely here) on Spleen at this point?

SnDvls · 10-29-2006, 08:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by spleen1015

I will bet anyone left in the game FOF2K7 that I am STARS.

why only people in the game? why not someone not in the game anymore?

spleen1015 · 10-29-2006, 08:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SnDvls

why only people in the game? why not someone not in the game anymore?

Because those left in the game are all that matter. Dudes, I am willing to wager $39.95 on who I am in the game. That has to mean something!

hoopsguy · 10-29-2006, 08:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by spleen1015

I will bet anyone left in the game FOF2K7 that I am STARS.

There was a big dispute on this point about 20 games back - betting as meta-gaming in WW. The result was that people were strongly discouraged from taking this action. That was after I bought Ardent Enthusiast pizza after taking him up on a bet when he called me a wolf in a game

Chief Rum · 10-29-2006, 08:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fouts

I have 3 guys in mind;

spleen - lot of people voting for him, including all the people I know are not zombies.

Glen - some strange moves, but I can't pin anything down to him

path - first vote on Umbrella, and wasn't killed by zombies.

Hard choice. Chief Rum, Mr. W, DC/Anxiety and Brian have avoided heat most of the game. Their time will come.

Agreed on this, except one. Why would the zombies care if path voted for Umbrella? They win whether Umbrella or STARS buys it.

spleen1015 · 10-29-2006, 08:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hoopsguy

There was a big dispute on this point about 20 games back - betting as meta-gaming in WW. The result was that people were strongly discouraged from taking this action. That was after I bought Ardent Enthusiast pizza after taking him up on a bet when he called me a wolf in a game

I apologize. This is only my 4th game. I am willing to do what I have to so that I don't get lynched tonight.

SnDvls · 10-29-2006, 08:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hoopsguy

There was a big dispute on this point about 20 games back - betting as meta-gaming in WW. The result was that people were strongly discouraged from taking this action. That was after I bought Ardent Enthusiast pizza after taking him up on a bet when he called me a wolf in a game

agreed....just playing along and having fun.

Fouts · 10-29-2006, 08:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by spleen1015

Because those left in the game are all that matter. Dudes, I am willing to wager $39.95 on who I am in the game. That has to mean something!

This is similar to buying votes and should be discouraged.

hoopsguy · 10-29-2006, 08:30 PM

No worries, just bringing it up as back in that game I felt like I had to take him up on the wager in order to protect my BS. I paid him off, as I was fine meeting up with a few FOFC people, but we had a fairly lengthy post-game conversation on the topic. I'll ask Barkeep to update the primer to include this "rule".

spleen1015 · 10-29-2006, 08:30 PM

Come on you guys. Lynch Glen instead. If he's not a zombie, then I will vote for myself tomorrow along with the rest of you.

I'm just a vanilla STARS!

Fouts · 10-29-2006, 08:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chief Rum

Agreed on this, except one. Why would the zombies care if path voted for Umbrella? They win whether Umbrella or STARS buys it.

Because they are after the PC. I thought he might be after Lathum turned up Umbrella, but his actions after that have assured me he isn't.

Chief Rum · 10-29-2006, 08:31 PM

Okay, I am troubled by Glen and spleen. spleen has mostly been because of his quiet play and his argument with LSG. Glen has just seemed to draw a lot of attention, and I don't know I have bought too much of his voting decisions.

I would like to see this be a two horse race and see if we can get more info, so...

VOTE GLENGOYNE

I can be moved off of this, but we're going to have to hurry.

SnDvls · 10-29-2006, 08:31 PM

I have been cut off from info from my fellow umbrella..I have given up too much info aparentally now.

sorry folks, but I had to save my a$$

Fouts · 10-29-2006, 08:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by spleen1015

Come on you guys. Lynch Glen instead. If he's not a zombie, then I will vote for myself tomorrow along with the rest of you.

I'm just a vanilla STARS!

Hmm, methinks you are trying too hard. Now I want to know what you are.

spleen1015 · 10-29-2006, 08:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fouts

This is similar to buying votes and should be discouraged.

I'll apologize again. I'm sorry to everyone for throwing that out there. Well, everyone except Glen. I don't apologize top brain eaters.

When you guys lynch me tonight and turn out to be STARS, will you vote to lynch Glen tomorrow in honor of my death?

Chief Rum · 10-29-2006, 08:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fouts

Because they are after the PC. I thought he might be after Lathum turned up Umbrella, but his actions after that have assured me he isn't.

Yup, I could see that, good point. But I would think anyone voting for Lathum would look like a potential PC. But, yes, first vote lends more weight. I just don't know if there is enough there for the zombies to say to themselves, "Oh yeah, he's gotta go."

That night, they killed Tyrith and saldana. I don't remember saldana's play much, but I remember Tyrith being brought up as a PC possibility.

Fouts · 10-29-2006, 08:33 PM

I'm not sure on any of the remaining people, but all of my non-zombies have voted for spleen. That is enough for me.

vote spleen

spleen1015 · 10-29-2006, 08:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fouts

Hmm, methinks you are trying too hard. Now I want to know what you are.

Dude, I'm trying to save my ass. I have no experience at that, so I am trying everything I can.

Notice how no one is trying to help me defend myself. That is because I am vanilla STARS and no one knows that but me and the PC, if he's around.

spleen1015 · 10-29-2006, 08:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fouts

I'm not sure on any of the remaining people, but all of my non-zombies have voted for spleen. That is enough for me.

vote spleen

Fouts, if you are STARS, you're killing one of your own!

BrianD · 10-29-2006, 08:34 PM

We should also keep in mind that anyone scanned before the conversion could be a zombie now. Let's all use the cleared list, but be watchful for anyone that has been converted.

Fouts · 10-29-2006, 08:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by spleen1015

Fouts, if you are STARS, you're killing one of your own!

Sorry bud. I just don't have enough to go on for anyone else.

spleen1015 · 10-29-2006, 08:37 PM

The STARS faction deserves to lose this game. We haven't done anything but drag our dicks around for 4 days, me included.

If you are voting for me, tell me why, please?

Glengoyne · 10-29-2006, 08:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BrianD

Before we get too far past this page, note that Glen changed his vote off of SnDvls and on to Spleen just as SnDvls was about to reveal. He may have known this was coming.

I moved off of snDvls because of Fouts' reveal. I'm catching up.

I see contradictory, at least it seems that way, info coming from two seers.

Fouts should have positive ID if he is IAD, the suspicion that he is Umbrella comes up, and then snDvls pops out that he is umbrella.

I'm cathcing up, now and see that they are pushing to lynch ME!!

What the hell? I haven't done anything but try and figure out who is who. Spleen comes out and pushes hard at the number two vote getter. Who'd have guessed that?

hoopsguy · 10-29-2006, 08:38 PM

Spleen, if you are vanilla STARS you have had lousy luck this game.
Day 1 - Bullet (dead, cleared)
Day 2 - Alan (pseudo-cleared)
Day 3 - Cronin (dead cleared)
Day 4 - LSG (pseudo-cleared), SnDvls (admitted Umbrella)

Vote records alone are not a perfect indicator, but yours is about as bad as it gets at the moment.

Fouts · 10-29-2006, 08:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hoopsguy

Spleen, if you are vanilla STARS you have had lousy luck this game.
Day 1 - Bullet (dead, cleared)
Day 2 - Alan (pseudo-cleared)
Day 3 - Cronin (dead cleared)
Day 4 - LSG (pseudo-cleared), SnDvls (admitted Umbrella)

Vote records alone are not a perfect indicator, but yours is about as bad as it gets at the moment.

Death nail. Spleen has done nothing to help STARS.

spleen1015 · 10-29-2006, 08:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hoopsguy

Spleen, if you are vanilla STARS you have had lousy luck this game.
Day 1 - Bullet (dead, cleared)
Day 2 - Alan (pseudo-cleared)
Day 3 - Cronin (dead cleared)
Day 4 - LSG (pseudo-cleared), SnDvls (admitted Umbrella)

Vote records alone are not a perfect indicator, but yours is about as bad as it gets at the moment.

My vote that will count for Day 4 is on Glen. Watch it will turn out to be a good one.

I'm a vanilla STARS, I have nothing to go by but what other people say.

You guys are lynching the wrong person tonight. If you want a zombie, you're not going to get it with me.

hoopsguy · 10-29-2006, 08:42 PM

I'm not terribly comfortable with the creamy middle of the Spleen vote (BrianD, Path, Glen).

SnDvls and Fouts - how comfortable are you with Spleen vs Glen? I'm pretty close to moving, as I share Alan's concern with Glengoyne's posts today.

spleen1015 · 10-29-2006, 08:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fouts

Death nail. Spleen has done nothing to help STARS.

Let's assume that I am a vanilla STARS member, what can I do but follow folks that could have information?

Glengoyne · 10-29-2006, 08:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SnDvls

I have been cut off from info from my fellow umbrella..I have given up too much info aparentally now.

sorry folks, but I had to save my a$$

This is all happening very fast now.

My take on this is that I dont' buy it. I"ve learned in Tombstone to get your point across in case you die...so if not for self preservation I'd keep my vote on snDvls.

hoopsguy · 10-29-2006, 08:44 PM

If I had seen the people I suspect as Umbrella creating the surge on my candidate I would feel better. But I'm worried that it is the Zombies in the middle, with their own (Glen) in a run-off.

Alan, do you have a Vote/Unvote chart for today?

spleen1015 · 10-29-2006, 08:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fouts

Death nail. Spleen has done nothing to help STARS.

Up until your reveal, you hadn't done a damn thing for us either. Without a role to reveal, I'm left with nothing.

SnDvls · 10-29-2006, 08:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hoopsguy

I'm not terribly comfortable with the creamy middle of the Spleen vote (BrianD, Path, Glen).

SnDvls and Fouts - how comfortable are you with Spleen vs Glen? I'm pretty close to moving, as I share Alan's concern with Glengoyne's posts today.

I'd prefer Glen over spleen IMO

SnDvls · 10-29-2006, 08:46 PM

unvote spleen
vote Glen

SnDvls · 10-29-2006, 08:47 PM

dola - that's how much I feel for it

Chief Rum · 10-29-2006, 08:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hoopsguy

Alan, do you have a Vote/Unvote chart for today?

I'll see if I can put one together real quick.

Glengoyne · 10-29-2006, 08:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hoopsguy

...
SnDvls and Fouts - how comfortable are you with Spleen vs Glen? I'm pretty close to moving, as I share Alan's concern with Glengoyne's posts today.

I wish I could address which ones.

This eleventh hour reveal is rigged to force hasty decisions.

That is why I'm sort of regretting the move off of snDvls.

As for Spleen's request to kill me tomorrow if he is lynched tonight. I'll be cleared by then, I'm sure of that.

BrianD · 10-29-2006, 08:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hoopsguy

I'm not terribly comfortable with the creamy middle of the Spleen vote (BrianD, Path, Glen).

SnDvls and Fouts - how comfortable are you with Spleen vs Glen? I'm pretty close to moving, as I share Alan's concern with Glengoyne's posts today.

Please note that I was the first one to point out Glen shifted to Spleen before the reveal. I wouldn't have pointed this out if I was trying to hide with him.

Alan T · 10-29-2006, 08:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hoopsguy

If I had seen the people I suspect as Umbrella creating the surge on my candidate I would feel better. But I'm worried that it is the Zombies in the middle, with their own (Glen) in a run-off.

Alan, do you have a Vote/Unvote chart for today?

(1387) Alan votes hoopsguy (1)
(1400) Spleen votes Lonestargirl (1)
(1417) Lonestargirl votes Sndvls (1)
(1448) Lonestargirl UNVOTES Sndvls (0)
(1448) Lonestargirl votes Spleen (1)
(1464) BrianD votes Lonestargirl (2)
(1469) Hoops votes Spleen (2)
(1484) Alan UNVOTES Hoopsguy (0) ***
(1484) Alan votes Sndvls (1)
(1488) mr.wednesday votes lonestargirl (3)
(1491) chiefrum votes sndvls (2)
(1497) Spleen UNVOTES Lonestargirl (2) ***
(1497) Spleen votes Sndvls (3)
(1510) BrianD UNVOTES Lonestargirl (1) ***
(1510) BrianD votes Spleen (3)
(1513) Glengoyne votes Sndvls (4)
(1520) Alan UNVOTES Sndvls (3) ***
(1520) Alan Votes Glengoyne (1)
(1528) path votes spleen (4)
(1543) Spleen UNVOTES Sndvls (2) ***
(1543) Spleen votes Glengoyne (2)
(1586) Chief Rum UNVOTES Sndvls (1) ***
(1590) Dodgerchick votes Alan (1)
(1616) Glengoyne UNVOTES Sndvls (0) ***
(1616) Glengoyne votes spleen (5)
(1622) Sndvls votes Spleen (6)
(1668) Chief Rum votes Glengoyne (3)
(1673) Fouts votes spleen (7)

LoneStarGirl · 10-29-2006, 08:49 PM

Glen, Spleen, and MrW seem to be the three zombies in my opinion, but i dont want to take my vote off of spleen because of the discussion we had earlier and the fact i think he is trying to hard.

spleen1015 · 10-29-2006, 08:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Glengoyne

I wish I could address which ones.

This eleventh hour reveal is rigged to force hasty decisions.

That is why I'm sort of regretting the move off of snDvls.

As for Spleen's request to kill me tomorrow if he is lynched tonight. I'll be cleared by then, I'm sure of that.

SnDvls is confirmed Umbrella, if he is to be believed. So, you can't be Umbrella. There is no way in hell you're STARS.

Get 'em boys!

Glengoyne · 10-29-2006, 08:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BrianD

Please note that I was the first one to point out Glen shifted to Spleen before the reveal. I wouldn't have pointed this out if I was trying to hide with him.

what point are yuou trying to make here?

That I knew that snDvls was coming out? That DON"T make me a zombie. I'm solidly in the Stars camp. How would I KNOW snDvls was coming out?

Think this through.

spleen1015 · 10-29-2006, 08:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LoneStarGirl

Glen, Spleen, and MrW seem to be the three zombies in my opinion, but i dont want to take my vote off of spleen because of the discussion we had earlier and the fact i think he is trying to hard.

So, you're voting for me because I called you a dumbass for calling me sexist?

Glengoyne · 10-29-2006, 08:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by spleen1015

SnDvls is confirmed Umbrella, if he is to be believed. So, you can't be Umbrella. There is no way in hell you're STARS.

Get 'em boys!

SO you're claiming seer now?

snDvls comes out and says his team cut him off. That is what I'm questioning. All I know is that a hell of a lot of confusion is being tossed around here at the end, and stars is going to pay for it if they are hasty.

BrianD · 10-29-2006, 08:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Glengoyne

what point are yuou trying to make here?

That I knew that snDvls was coming out? That DON"T make me a zombie. I'm solidly in the Stars camp. How would I KNOW snDvls was coming out?

Think this through.

I'm just saying that SnDvls made it pretty clear that he was about to reveal something and you made your shift between the "here it comes" post and the actual reveal. That seemed important. I don't know if you were afraid that he was going to point to you or if you are also umbrella and wanted to get your vote in early so it didn't look like you were following him. Mostly I just wanted to point the vote out in case it was important later.

10-29-2006, 08:31 PM	#1668
Chief Rum Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Where Hip Hop lives	Okay, I am troubled by Glen and spleen. spleen has mostly been because of his quiet play and his argument with LSG. Glen has just seemed to draw a lot of attention, and I don't know I have bought too much of his voting decisions. I would like to see this be a two horse race and see if we can get more info, so... VOTE GLENGOYNE I can be moved off of this, but we're going to have to hurry. __________________ . . I would rather be wrong...Than live in the shadows of your song...My mind is open wide...And now I'm ready to start...You're not sure...You open the door...And step out into the dark...Now I'm ready.

10-29-2006, 08:22 PM	#1651
Fouts College Starter Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: California	So our list of non-zombies has expanded; LSG SnDvls Hoops Fouts Alan That is 5 now. If I die tonight, I think the Umbrella faction should reveal a zombie or a known non-zombie. We need to cut down their numbers.

10-29-2006, 08:22 PM	#1652
BrianD Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Appleton, WI	Before we get too far past this page, note that Glen changed his vote off of SnDvls and on to Spleen just as SnDvls was about to reveal. He may have known this was coming.

10-29-2006, 08:23 PM	#1653
spleen1015 Coordinator Join Date: Sep 2003	At least you guys will remove me from the game, FOR THE VERY FIRST TIME. Bitches. I'm just vanilla STARS.

10-29-2006, 08:25 PM	#1656
Fouts College Starter Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: California	I have 3 guys in mind; spleen - lot of people voting for him, including all the people I know are not zombies. Glen - some strange moves, but I can't pin anything down to him path - first vote on Umbrella, and wasn't killed by zombies. Hard choice. Chief Rum, Mr. W, DC/Anxiety and Brian have avoided heat most of the game. Their time will come.

10-29-2006, 08:25 PM	#1657
hoopsguy General Manager Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Chicago	OK, I think we expect that Zombies have at least three people at this time, correct? So should we be worried that there are three "cleared" and three "non-cleared" (using the terms very loosely here) on Spleen at this point?

10-29-2006, 08:30 PM	#1665
hoopsguy General Manager Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Chicago	No worries, just bringing it up as back in that game I felt like I had to take him up on the wager in order to protect my BS. I paid him off, as I was fine meeting up with a few FOFC people, but we had a fairly lengthy post-game conversation on the topic. I'll ask Barkeep to update the primer to include this "rule".

10-29-2006, 08:30 PM	#1666
spleen1015 Coordinator Join Date: Sep 2003	Come on you guys. Lynch Glen instead. If he's not a zombie, then I will vote for myself tomorrow along with the rest of you. I'm just a vanilla STARS!

10-29-2006, 08:31 PM	#1669
SnDvls Pro Starter Join Date: Jul 2001	I have been cut off from info from my fellow umbrella..I have given up too much info aparentally now. sorry folks, but I had to save my a$$

10-29-2006, 08:33 PM	#1673
Fouts College Starter Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: California	I'm not sure on any of the remaining people, but all of my non-zombies have voted for spleen. That is enough for me. vote spleen

10-29-2006, 08:34 PM	#1676
BrianD Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Appleton, WI	We should also keep in mind that anyone scanned before the conversion could be a zombie now. Let's all use the cleared list, but be watchful for anyone that has been converted.

10-29-2006, 08:37 PM	#1678
spleen1015 Coordinator Join Date: Sep 2003	The STARS faction deserves to lose this game. We haven't done anything but drag our dicks around for 4 days, me included. If you are voting for me, tell me why, please?

10-29-2006, 08:38 PM	#1680
hoopsguy General Manager Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Chicago	Spleen, if you are vanilla STARS you have had lousy luck this game. Day 1 - Bullet (dead, cleared) Day 2 - Alan (pseudo-cleared) Day 3 - Cronin (dead cleared) Day 4 - LSG (pseudo-cleared), SnDvls (admitted Umbrella) Vote records alone are not a perfect indicator, but yours is about as bad as it gets at the moment.

10-29-2006, 08:42 PM	#1683
hoopsguy General Manager Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Chicago	I'm not terribly comfortable with the creamy middle of the Spleen vote (BrianD, Path, Glen). SnDvls and Fouts - how comfortable are you with Spleen vs Glen? I'm pretty close to moving, as I share Alan's concern with Glengoyne's posts today.

10-29-2006, 08:44 PM	#1686
hoopsguy General Manager Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Chicago	If I had seen the people I suspect as Umbrella creating the surge on my candidate I would feel better. But I'm worried that it is the Zombies in the middle, with their own (Glen) in a run-off. Alan, do you have a Vote/Unvote chart for today?

10-29-2006, 08:46 PM	#1689
SnDvls Pro Starter Join Date: Jul 2001	unvote spleen vote Glen

10-29-2006, 08:47 PM	#1690
SnDvls Pro Starter Join Date: Jul 2001	dola - that's how much I feel for it

10-29-2006, 08:49 PM	#1695
LoneStarGirl College Starter Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Little Rock, AR	Glen, Spleen, and MrW seem to be the three zombies in my opinion, but i dont want to take my vote off of spleen because of the discussion we had earlier and the fact i think he is trying to hard.

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